Serge...did you use it or not?
I was waiting for this one.
I will answer in this way : I start bodybuilding in 1958 and 2 year later i won the title of the must muscular man in the world, it was an IFBB contest which was helded in Montreal, You know my physic how can they declared me the must muscular man in the World with with kind of physic? and with a 20 inches arm, but I leart later that the federation was not ready to admit that a black man win this title of "Mr. UNIVERSE" don't forget it was in 1960. And I can tell you that I did not know nothing about those products. So I knew that it was possible to have 22 inches arm, without that, I know a lot of people won't beleive it, but the first thing they ask you now, it is what are you taking but never what are you doing.
Serge