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Title: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: pumpster on March 19, 2009, 06:26:19 PM
Firming up his eventual cabinet post i would guess while meeting in Los Angeles. Obama on the Tonight Show tonight, taped later today also in LA.

Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: The Coach on March 19, 2009, 06:29:56 PM
I had to turn it off, I can't stomach this clown (Obama).
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2009, 06:34:29 PM
I had to turn it off, I can't stomach this clown (Obama).


arnold's been super sweet to obama lately...
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 19, 2009, 06:35:30 PM

arnold's been super sweet to obama lately...
obama is doing a great job
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 19, 2009, 06:36:59 PM
obama is doing a great job

great job???? what the hell has be done?    name one thing. please.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2009, 06:47:55 PM
great job???? what the hell has be done?    name one thing. please.

he created 3 to 4 million american jobs over the next 18 months.

Bush spent just as much money, but the $ went to blowing up then rebuilding iraq.  At least obama is putting some americans to work rebuilding our country.  He has his flaws, but this aspect - rebuilding the USA - is great.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 19, 2009, 06:53:48 PM
great job???? what the hell has be done?    name one thing. please.
it does take time to pull a demoralized economy out of the ditch.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 19, 2009, 06:54:17 PM
he created 3 to 4 million american jobs over the next 18 months.

Bush spent just as much money, but the $ went to blowing up then rebuilding iraq.  At least obama is putting some americans to work rebuilding our country.  He has his flaws, but this aspect - rebuilding the USA - is great.

rebuilding america?  he hasn't done shit....  the only jobs he is creating is temporary and at the cost of actual providers.

I agree with spending at will and giving millions to erase tattoos of former gangmembers, etc. but I just wish all these hippy liberals would fork over all their money instead of people like me who work and pay taxes.  

My plan is simple:  Everyone who voted for this F'ing loser, they donate 90% of their paycheck to his "cause."

Liberals are soo happy to spend money, as long as its not theirs...
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 19, 2009, 06:56:49 PM
rebuilding america?  he hasn't done shit....  the only jobs he is creating is temporary and at the cost of actual providers.

I agree with spending at will and giving millions to erase tattoos of former gangmembers, etc. but I just wish all these hippy liberals would fork over all their money instead of people like me who work and pay taxes.  

My plan is simple:  Everyone who voted for this F'ing loser, they donate 90% of their paycheck to his "cause."

Liberals are soo happy to spend money, as long as its not theirs...
i am so blessed i dont mind a tax increase.  this country has been very good to me. 
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 19, 2009, 06:56:59 PM
it does take time to pull a demoralized economy out of the ditch.

in case you haven;t paid attention over the past 50 years, THE ECONOMY DOES WHATEVER IT WANTS...  there is no rhyme or reason to it.  And simply cause it swings back and forth, and since Hussein Obama stepped in when it was down, he will get credit for its upswing... even though it was going to swing back regardless of what he does....
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Dballn247 on March 19, 2009, 06:57:12 PM
rebuilding america?  he hasn't done shit....  the only jobs he is creating is temporary and at the cost of actual providers.

I agree with spending at will and giving millions to erase tattoos of former gangmembers, etc. but I just wish all these hippy liberals would fork over all their money instead of people like me who work and pay taxes. 

My plan is simple:  Everyone who voted for this F'ing loser, they donate 90% of their paycheck to his "cause."

Liberals are soo happy to spend money, as long as its not theirs...

Word
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 19, 2009, 06:58:27 PM
i am so blessed i dont mind a tax increase.  this country has been very good to me. 

you are ok with people taking your money to give to Shanika who has 10 kids at the age of 28?  Yes, these people get paid more by having more bastard babies!!!


Wake up people, you are all brainwashed by the liberal media
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 19, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
you fucking liberals, donate your own money to help the lazy.... don;t take mine!
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 19, 2009, 07:00:53 PM
in case you haven;t paid attention over the past 50 years, THE ECONOMY DOES WHATEVER IT WANTS...  there is no rhyme or reason to it.  And simply cause it swings back and forth, and since Hussein Obama stepped in when it was down, he will get credit for its upswing... even though it was going to swing back regardless of what he does....
thanks for proving once again opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.  
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 19, 2009, 07:01:57 PM
i don;t give a shit about opinions and assholes...

this assclown is 2 steps away from communism..... wake up tree huggers.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: The Coach on March 19, 2009, 07:02:51 PM
he created 3 to 4 million american jobs over the next 18 months.

Bush spent just as much money, but the $ went to blowing up then rebuilding iraq.  At least obama is putting some americans to work rebuilding our country.  He has his flaws, but this aspect - rebuilding the USA - is great.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=270652.0
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: The Coach on March 19, 2009, 07:03:27 PM
obama is doing a great job

 ::).........for a Marxist.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 19, 2009, 07:04:14 PM
oh oh communist, red scare  1950's
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on March 19, 2009, 07:16:14 PM
i am so blessed i dont mind a tax increase.  this country has been very good to me. 
same here firiend,,,,i wouldntmind 90% taxe as long as living was fomrtoable,,,good country good country
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 19, 2009, 07:19:18 PM
same here firiend,,,,i wouldntmind 90% taxe as long as living was fomrtoable,,,good country good country

Europe has plenty of what you seek....

Don't let the door hit your dumbass on the way out.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 19, 2009, 07:19:56 PM
same here firiend,,,,i wouldntmind 90% taxe as long as living was fomrtoable,,,good country good country
i'm at 32%  40 is ok with me...but warren buffet & gates pay 5% and they need to pay their fair share.  enough corporate welfare.   mean spirited cheapskates bellyache about aid to dependent children.  
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Pollux on March 19, 2009, 07:26:25 PM
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Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Eric2 on March 19, 2009, 10:09:46 PM
Obama has not created one job yet. Prove it! The man is a worthless excuse for a president. Besides the government does not create jobs, leave that for the private sector.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: TechnoViking on March 19, 2009, 10:11:58 PM
So thats why Branch didn't win the Arnold...Now I get it ;)
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2009, 10:14:53 PM
you are ok with people taking your money to give to Shanika who has 10 kids at the age of 28?  Yes, these people get paid more by having more bastard babies!!!


Wake up people, you are all brainwashed by the liberal media
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2009, 10:19:16 PM
Obama has not created one job yet. Prove it! The man is a worthless excuse for a president. Besides the government does not create jobs, leave that for the private sector.

last week he spoke in Columbus with graduates of a police academy who would be taking some of the jobs his stim plan had just created.  FL jobs are supposed to roll out in 2 months.  Fl gets 206k jobs.  Cali gets 396k new jobs.

They may not be permanent, but they sure will feel good to the 12% of people in my county who are unemployed.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Eric2 on March 19, 2009, 10:19:37 PM
By the way, if Arnold likes what obama is doing he can kiss my ass. He is a sell out loser, fucked up his state and is begging for a hand out in order to place a better legacy. Whats the matter Arnie? Can't beat em so join em? Loser...................
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2009, 10:20:11 PM
last week he spoke in Columbus with graduates of a police academy who would be taking some of the jobs his stim plan had just created.  FL jobs are supposed to roll out in 2 months.  Fl gets 206k jobs.  Cali gets 396k new jobs.

They may not be permanent, but they sure will feel good to the 12% of people in my county who are unemployed.
Where do you find the breakdown of how many jobs each state gets?
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Eric2 on March 19, 2009, 10:22:38 PM
last week he spoke in Columbus with graduates of a police academy who would be taking some of the jobs his stim plan had just created.  FL jobs are supposed to roll out in 2 months.  Fl gets 206k jobs.  Cali gets 396k new jobs.

They may not be permanent, but they sure will feel good to the 12% of people in my county who are unemployed.

Are you fucking for real? The graduates at the police academy would not have been there to begin with had there not already been a need. The jobs where already there. Speak on these 206k jobs......really what are they? Serious question.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: TechnoViking on March 19, 2009, 10:29:02 PM
By the way, if Arnold likes what obama is doing he can kiss my ass. He is a sell out loser, fucked up his state and is begging for a hand out in order to place a better legacy. Whats the matter Arnie? Can't beat em so join em? Loser...................

Have you ever read any book written by Arnold...The man was born to be a Dictator...Weider has groomed him very well...Although the Weiders were Jewish, the power that Hitler shown to the world is something that all power hungry humans worship...One of the reason's the Jewish media tries to make these people seem extremely evil is because they don't want regular people like you and me stand up and think we to can be a very powerful force in the world...However Arnold knows and has been taught differently...He has been bred to be a King...And is doing everything he can to make that happen...And its the Jewish Hierarchy that has been behind him almost every step of the way...From here on out, there is nothing that can happen to Arnold that will make him deter from his destiny...He could literally chop a mans head off in broad daylight and then tell everyone that the movie was photoshopped and get away with it...Bottom line is we are all fucked...Best answer is to stay away from Religion but start to get spiritual...Because we are all about to be totally ass raped and there in no god that is going to help us out...
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Eric2 on March 19, 2009, 10:34:25 PM
Well Arnie can go drive himself off of a cliff in his hummer..................
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: TechnoViking on March 19, 2009, 10:37:16 PM
Well Arnie can go drive himself off of a cliff in his hummer..................

I myself would rather see him for fill his destiny only to see the people rise up and squash him someday...It makes for a much more exciting story... ;)
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: 240 is Back on March 19, 2009, 10:44:23 PM
Where do you find the breakdown of how many jobs each state gets?

CNN had it on anderson cooper show about 2 weeks back.

i noted those 2, as I live in FL and Cali was just under 400k. 

I know many people just blurt out "the obama plans sucks" and while it's not great, I know my state can really use the jobs.  it's broke here.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: LurkyLurker on March 19, 2009, 10:49:11 PM
great job???? what the hell has be done?    name one thing. please.

He lifted Bush's retarded stem cell research ban. All of you with a history of Parkinson's or Alzheimer's in your family can thank him later.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: TechnoViking on March 19, 2009, 11:08:13 PM
He lifted Bush's retarded stem cell research ban. All of you with a history of Parkinson's or Alzheimer's in your family can thank him later.

I'm pretty sure that it has already been determined that "Plazmosis" cures these two affliction's you mentioned...So a thank you is not needed to Obama...However sending a thank you to King Kamali for sure is in order...
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 20, 2009, 12:02:25 AM
Where do you find the breakdown of how many jobs each state gets?
before passage the complete list of states, district & territories job totals were listed on the website for the US conference of Mayors.  google the conference and it might still be there.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: chainsaw on March 20, 2009, 01:03:28 AM
last week he spoke in Columbus with graduates of a police academy who would be taking some of the jobs his stim plan had just created.  FL jobs are supposed to roll out in 2 months.  Fl gets 206k jobs.  Cali gets 396k new jobs.

They may not be permanent, but they sure will feel good to the 12% of people in my county who are unemployed.


New jobs, ha, sweeping the streets.  And many illegals will be getting them rather than americans.
What a Joke. 

Government work, help small business owners get loans.  I could hire 20 people and it would be permanemt, if he helped us.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: KSA on March 20, 2009, 04:49:06 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Kwon on March 20, 2009, 04:53:00 AM
Does Arnold like Obama more than Robby Robinson?

If Obama refused dancing in Arnolds Pad, what would he call him?
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 20, 2009, 04:54:12 AM
i don;t give a shit about opinions and assholes...

this assclown is 2 steps away from communism..... wake up tree huggers.

If you don't like it get the fuck out.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: _bruce_ on March 20, 2009, 05:35:18 AM
Land of the brave and the 72 ounce steak  :D

Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 20, 2009, 06:34:06 AM
If you don't like it get the fuck out.

+1

Obama's very name sends the sore losers into a tizzyfit on here.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: the_steevo_uk on March 20, 2009, 11:22:18 AM
in case you haven;t paid attention over the past 50 years, THE ECONOMY DOES WHATEVER IT WANTS...  there is no rhyme or reason to it.  And simply cause it swings back and forth, and since Hussein Obama stepped in when it was down, he will get credit for its upswing... even though it was going to swing back regardless of what he does....

That right there is the f@cking dumbest answer I think I have ever read concerning the economy...had there not been massive injections of liquidity the system would have collapsed...even the mere hint that the government is thinking of witholoding money sends the markets into panic. Everyone hates the bailouts...it screws over the working man, but the what the hell else are you gonna do SERIOUSLY GIVE ME AN ANSWER?

the economy does what it wants, you really are a dumb sh1t...you sit there bashing liberals without realising a conservative administration would have done exactly the same, unregulated free market economics is dead and buried my friend, as wonderful an idea as it was (and yes i do like the idea...far more than government regulation before you think im some hippy)

what i cant stand is morons like you who sit there thinking that somehow the market will sort itself out...IT WONT YOU F@CKING IDIOT, leave your dumbass ideology on the floor for two seconds and realise things have changed now.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 20, 2009, 12:09:56 PM
SERIOUSLY GIVE ME AN ANSWER?

He can't.  Because the only logic he can comprehend is to sit there whine whine whine without anything else to add or suggest.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Obama has not created one job yet. Prove it! The man is a worthless excuse for a president. Besides the government does not create jobs, leave that for the private sector.

right on!

these liberals are crazy.  if the economy goes down:  blame bush   is the ecomony gets better:  praise obama   

dumb ass liberals....
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 01:33:53 PM
If you don't like it get the fuck out.

haha.  thats what i expect from an intellectual adolescent.  very mature. 

that is why america is great, deuche, cause people can have an opinion and speak out.  we are all not retards like most liberals are, who hear something on the news and believe it as 100% truth, we actually can think for ourselves!
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 01:38:09 PM
That right there is the f@cking dumbest answer I think I have ever read concerning the economy...had there not been massive injections of liquidity the system would have collapsed...even the mere hint that the government is thinking of witholoding money sends the markets into panic. Everyone hates the bailouts...it screws over the working man, but the what the hell else are you gonna do SERIOUSLY GIVE ME AN ANSWER?

the economy does what it wants, you really are a dumb sh1t...you sit there bashing liberals without realising a conservative administration would have done exactly the same, unregulated free market economics is dead and buried my friend, as wonderful an idea as it was (and yes i do like the idea...far more than government regulation before you think im some hippy)

what i cant stand is morons like you who sit there thinking that somehow the market will sort itself out...IT WONT YOU F@CKING IDIOT, leave your dumbass ideology on the floor for two seconds and realise things have changed now.

wow, looks like a touched a nerve, sorry nancy.

so, me thinking the economy does what it wants is "dumb shit"?  Then why does Alan Greenspan say the SAME THING.  Professors of ecomonics say the same thing, the economy is like predicting the weather, very hard.

as for the market sorting itself out??? you fucking loser.  THATS THE BASIS OF CAPITALISM!!!!!   I can't believe you can even think thats the asnwer,,, read a fucking book. 
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: the_steevo_uk on March 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
wow, looks like a touched a nerve, sorry nancy.

so, me thinking the economy does what it wants is "dumb shit"?  Then why does Alan Greenspan say the SAME THING.  Professors of ecomonics say the same thing, the economy is like predicting the weather, very hard.

as for the market sorting itself out??? you fucking loser.  THATS THE BASIS OF CAPITALISM!!!!!   I can't believe you can even think thats the asnwer,,, read a fucking book. 

I have read many my friend, and we can talk about equilibrium's till the cows come home...you still havent given any answer as to what you would do...what  is your answer??
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 01:42:33 PM
He can't.  Because the only logic he can comprehend is to sit there whine whine whine without anything else to add or suggest.

I did give him an answer read above.

here is what I want America do to.  Split the country right down the middle, the conservatives live in the east and the liberals live in the west.  the east would be full of people working and paying taxes and living a great life.  the west would be full of people who don;t work, and depend on the producers for money.  With all liberals living in the west, there is no one to give them handouts, complete chaos would ensue.

i appreciate Obama's plan to fix things, thats great.  Just use money from other liberals. whooever voted for him should donate half their income.. Wouldn;t that be funny, he just taxed liberals since its their "great plan."  See how many of them stay liberal.

Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: the_steevo_uk on March 20, 2009, 01:48:19 PM
I did give him an answer read above.

here is what I want America do to.  Split the country right down the middle, the conservatives live in the east and the liberals live in the west.  the east would be full of people working and paying taxes and living a great life.  the west would be full of people who don;t work, and depend on the producers for money.  With all liberals living in the west, there is no one to give them handouts, complete chaos would ensue.

i appreciate Obama's plan to fix things, thats great.  Just use money from other liberals. whooever voted for him should donate half their income.. Wouldn;t that be funny, he just taxed liberals since its their "great plan."  See how many of them stay liberal.



i thought conservatives didnt like social engineering...your plan contains just a hint of that wouldnt you say?
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 01:49:02 PM
it contains a hint, just to prove a point.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 01:51:29 PM
let me try to dumb this down so you can try to make sense of this:

Tax system explained in terms of beer - to make it more manageable

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all
ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,
it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every
day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the
owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he
said, "I'm going to reduce t he cost of your daily beer by $20.
"Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes, so
the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could
they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair
share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the
sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar
owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by
roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each
should pay.

And so

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man. He
pointed to the tenth man," but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar,
too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back w
hen I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the
tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had
beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they
discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between
all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the
most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for
being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat
friendlier.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: dr.chimps on March 20, 2009, 01:54:23 PM
let me try to dumb this down so you can try to make sense of this:
Your condescension and self-importance has been noted.  :)
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 01:59:26 PM
Your condescension and self-importance has been noted.  :)

thank you.  finally.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Drama Queen on March 20, 2009, 02:13:32 PM
''The laws of capitalism, blind and invisible to the majority, act upon the individual without his thinking about it. He sees only the vastness of a seemingly infinite horizon before him. That is how it is painted by capitalist propagandists, who purport to draw a lesson from the example of Rockefeller — whether or not it is true — about the possibilities of success. The amount of poverty and suffering required for the emergence of a Rockefeller, and the amount of depravity that the accumulation of a fortune of such magnitude entails, are left out of the picture, and it is not always possible to make the people in general see this.''
                                                                                                                                     Ernesto "CHE ' Guevara
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 02:16:37 PM
''The laws of capitalism, blind and invisible to the majority, act upon the individual without his thinking about it. He sees only the vastness of a seemingly infinite horizon before him. That is how it is painted by capitalist propagandists, who purport to draw a lesson from the example of Rockefeller — whether or not it is true — about the possibilities of success. The amount of poverty and suffering required for the emergence of a Rockefeller, and the amount of depravity that the accumulation of a fortune of such magnitude entails, are left out of the picture, and it is not always possible to make the people in general see this.''
                                                                                                                                     Ernesto "CHE ' Guevara

blah blah blah... spoken like a true south american.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Drama Queen on March 20, 2009, 02:22:59 PM
"The change in consciousness will not take place automatically, just as it doesn't take place automatically in the economy. The alterations are slow and are not harmonious; there are periods of acceleration, pauses and even retrogressions.''

                                                                                                                               Ernesto ''CHE'' Guevara
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 02:27:35 PM
Drama queen is the typical liberal.  cannot think for himself, must quote other people.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: THEBOSS on March 20, 2009, 03:44:44 PM
let me try to dumb this down so you can try to make sense of this:

Tax system explained in terms of beer - to make it more manageable

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all
ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,
it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every
day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the
owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he
said, "I'm going to reduce t he cost of your daily beer by $20.
"Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes, so
the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could
they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair
share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the
sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar
owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by
roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each
should pay.

And so

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man. He
pointed to the tenth man," but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar,
too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back w
hen I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the
tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had
beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they
discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between
all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the
most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for
being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat
friendlier.

;D
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 20, 2009, 03:54:17 PM
Drama queen is the typical liberal.  cannot think for himself, must quote other people.

Where, or from who, did you learn to label people like that? But that's how this world works and always has worked. Labeling people they are kept in their place.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 20, 2009, 04:06:30 PM
Where, or from who, did you learn to label people like that? But that's how this world works and always has worked. Labeling people they are kept in their place.

Labels serve a purpose...
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: ManBearPig... on March 20, 2009, 05:20:11 PM
As Jon Stewart said, the value of Americans is in the work they do.

So, (i'm ripping off Ron Paul or someone, forgot who), here's a better stimulus package:

1. reduce corporate taxation to zero
2. reduce capital gains to zero
3. keep income and sales tax as is or adjust accordingly


Basically, make America a safe haven for good corporations worldwide to bring their operations here (or bring them back in most cases).  This will bring back employment and production and creation of new technologies.  Not tax the shit out of them so they all run away elsewhere with us standing there holding ourselves by our shriveling nutsacks while saying "they took err jerbs!!!"
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: christinafitness on March 21, 2009, 02:42:59 AM
Obama gave several press conferences without pre-screened audiences. That never happened under Bush.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Eric2 on March 21, 2009, 08:10:42 AM
Capitalism is the single best system in the world bar none. In fact a well respected Russian economist was executed for stating such a fact after having studied all the systems in length by order of his comrade fuckwad leader.

   With capitalism a man or woman can pull themselves up by their own strength and create an empire, or they can also sit on their ass and watch others create and build. You see in America we have the freedom and ability and right to work where we choose, how we choose, and for how long we choose. Everybody in America has opportunity and education. All one needs to make it all work is the drive, the motivation. The never-ending determination to achieve. Even if all it is, is having a normal job a family and a house.
   That is after all, the dream. Those of you who like the scale set by Europe and Russia or even China should all go and live there. Go live under the thumb of government control. Go live where you are dictated as to where, what and how you can live. Do not trample the very freedoms and liberties that my for fathers fought and died for, so that we may have.
    I guarantee you that those of you who keep trying will fail. You socialist pigs are standing on what is the last nerve of the silent majority. Keep this shit up and see what happens. ;)
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 21, 2009, 09:58:55 AM
Capitalism is the single best system in the world bar none.

Wrong. Mixed economies are the best. US of A is an example.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: christinafitness on March 21, 2009, 11:20:11 AM
The US is the biggest of the social market economies.
However neither the free market system, nor the social network, nor democracy, nor the car was invented in America.
You get a different impression if you watch US "news" shows.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Max_Rep on March 21, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
I had to turn it off, I can't stomach this clown (Obama).

Imagine all of us having to stomach the worst President in US history for 8 years G.W. Bush. I STILL have nightmares but then I remember that his reign of terror is over.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: theworm on March 21, 2009, 12:34:25 PM
Imagine all of us having to stomach the worst President in US history for 8 years G.W. Bush. I STILL have nightmares but then I remember that his reign of terror is over.

George Bush was one of the greatest presidents in recent history.  Kept us safe after 9/11 and invaded 2 countries and showed them f'ed-up arabs what the DEAL IS!!! damn bad-ass in my book.
Title: Re: Schwarzenegger with Obama this morning
Post by: Max_Rep on March 22, 2009, 01:04:25 AM
George Bush was one of the greatest presidents in recent history.  Kept us safe after 9/11 and invaded 2 countries and showed them f'ed-up arabs what the DEAL IS!!! damn bad-ass in my book.

 ::)