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They announced on RAW tonight and on TMZ earlier today!!
And HOGAN is inducting him.
I can't wait to see what the Genius has to say about this. He stated that he couldn't stop McMahon from inducting Savage without Genius and their dad, Angelo Poffo (as Savage reportedly wished). But, he will not be there whatsoever.
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I confess. I was a big Macho Man mark back in the day. Easily one of the greatest pro wrestlers of all time.
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Thought for sure he was already there...
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Greatest Heel😂😂 he's so awesome!
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very happy for his memory......
but makes me sad/upset at the same time...
WTF happened to wrestling...???? seriously... look at the fcken product today???? WTF??
a 5yr old could put out a better product today
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Macho Man is a legend. One of my favorites of all time
THE LORD AND MASTER
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very happy for his memory......
but makes me sad/upset at the same time...
WTF happened to wrestling...???? seriously... look at the fcken product today???? WTF??
a 5yr old could put out a better product today
You think Genius will be at the HOF ceremony? What about Savage's wife?
Edit - He might be there after all. According to Fox News, Genius dropped the idea that WWE should induct him and their father, along with Savage, for the sake of the fans. And it was his idea to have Hogan induct Savage.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/01/13/macho-man-savage-brother-on-hall-fame-induction-randy-loved-fans/
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Its about time Savage gets inducted. That one is about a decade overdue.
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You think Genius will be at the HOF ceremony? What about Savage's wife?
Edit - He might be there after all. According to Fox News, Genius dropped the idea that WWE should induct him and their father, along with Savage, for the sake of the fans. And it was his idea to have Hogan induct Savage.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/01/13/macho-man-savage-brother-on-hall-fame-induction-randy-loved-fans/
I wonder why the sudden change of heart? Lanny seemed dead set on a family induction, I don't think he cares about enshrinement for himself, but I suspect both boys cared about their fathers legacy.
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I wonder why the sudden change of heart? Lanny seemed dead set on a family induction, I don't think he cares about enshrinement for himself, but I suspect both boys cared about their fathers legacy.
He said he was honoring his brother's wishes and that he wouldn't be there if WWE did it with just Savage.
The Fox News link I posted earlier has a YouTube attachment, an interview with Genius explaining why he changed his mind.
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Although Savage and Hogan were linked career wise, I'd rather see someone like Steamboat induct Savage than Hogan. To be inducted by Hogan, someone Savage disliked, seems a bit inappropriate in a way.
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Don't like Hogan doing the honors.
Hogan just doesn't care and it's all about him..
Hogan thinks and wishes it was still the 80's / 90's
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Although Savage and Hogan were linked career wise, I'd rather see someone like Steamboat induct Savage than Hogan. To be inducted by Hogan, someone Savage disliked, seems a bit inappropriate in a way.
I always thought it would be Steamers doing the honors, as well.
But... WTF do we know?
;D
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Don't like Hogan doing the honors.
Hogan just doesn't care and it's all about him..
Hogan thinks and wishes it was still the 80's / 90's
Genius seems to feel a bit differently.
Poffo said it was his idea that Hulk Hogan be the one to induct his brother.
"Randy and Hulk, sometimes they got along, and sometimes they didn't, but nobody can say that was not a successful combination, and Randy deep down in his heart loved Hulk, and Hulk loved Randy," Poffo said.
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I always thought it would be Steamers doing the honors, as well.
But... WTF do we know?
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Lanny stated in many shoot interviews that he would not attend the HOF if his brother was inducted but not Lanny or Angelo based on Randy Savage's wishes. Who knows if Lanny will even be there...if he is its only because WWE gave him a huge payday.
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Great point..
Probably he will get a genius DVD or legends contract out of it.
He definitely got a lot of $$$$$$
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I have emails between myself and Lanny via Linkedin a few yrs back saying all or nothing meaning entire family. Fast forward, obviously his tune has changed....$$$ changes everything.
Hulk inducting him...not a fan....Hogan will somehow make this into the HH show and not about Randy. They had very serious heat (although many wrestlers reported Randy was wound very tight). "Supposedly" HH ran into Randy right after her got married, shortly before he died and they mended fences...who knows..
Search Warrior Youtube videos where he calls Hogan a liar about him and Randy mending fences...
Long story short, HH no, Ricky Steamboat....no. They had one of the best Wrestlemania matches but don't see him giving a moving speech. Ideally it should be Lanny but I see Lanny accepting the award on Randy's behalf.
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Who owns the rights to Savage's character?
Anybody know?
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Who owns the rights to Savage's character?
Anybody know?
Did he do any appearances as Macho Man when not wrestling? I know he played Bone Saw but I don't know what they credited him as in the credits.
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Did he do any appearances as Macho Man when not wrestling? I know he played Bone Saw but I don't know what they credited him as in the credits.
Not sure, but I know he did the Slim Jim ads on his own and in full character.
He also had no issues transitioning to WCW as the Macho Man.
I suspect it may have been an arrangement along the lines of the character owner licensing the use of that character to the entity employing them. So, whoever signed Macho to a contract got to use his name/likeness for the duration of that contract.
I believe that's how Vince was able to release the first Ultimate Warrior without Hellwig's consent - WWF simply compiled archive footage for which Hellwig was already paid, so they didn't need to pay him again; nor did they need his permission.
"Ultimate Warrior" was property of James Hellwig, but that footage was property of Titan Sports.
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Apparently the WWE contract has all that in there.
You get a percentage $$ of merchandise , appearance , and tv / video.
That's how WWE Network is able to operate.. especially when the WWE owns your likeness / character / trademark.. which they own about 95% of it..
All third generation kids are using WWE created names now :-\
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(http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/finishers/savageelbowanimated.gif)
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He said he was honoring his brother's wishes and that he wouldn't be there if WWE did it with just Savage.
The Fox News link I posted earlier has a YouTube attachment, an interview with Genius explaining why he changed his mind.
I have emails between myself and Lanny via Linkedin a few yrs back saying all or nothing meaning entire family. Fast forward, obviously his tune has changed....$$$ changes everything.
Hulk inducting him...not a fan....Hogan will somehow make this into the HH show and not about Randy. They had very serious heat (although many wrestlers reported Randy was wound very tight). "Supposedly" HH ran into Randy right after her got married, shortly before he died and they mended fences...who knows..
Search Warrior Youtube videos where he calls Hogan a liar about him and Randy mending fences...
Long story short, HH no, Ricky Steamboat....no. They had one of the best Wrestlemania matches but don't see him giving a moving speech. Ideally it should be Lanny but I see Lanny accepting the award on Randy's behalf.
He might say it's for the fans, and it may very well be, Lanny comes across as honest and a straight shooter, but I have to think he may have gotten some type of "Bruno" package to agree to terms.
Or maybe he realized he's getting up there in age and life is short and time heals all wounds. But as there is no physical HOF (unless you count the Mania fan access museum) or voting panel, I can't imagine he'd take much stock in the WHO'S honors.
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Angelo always taught his kids the three letters of life...SYM.
"Save your money"....and they did.
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LOL----I would always crack up as a kid when Mean Gene would stare blankly into the camera when Macho Man would say something outrageous.
R.I.P Macho man---one of the greats. I think it's pathetic that Vince appointed Hulk Hogan to induct Macho in the HOF. Those guys were NOT friends. They had a working relationship, that is all. Macho was the ultimate professional. His brother Lanny, and only Lanny, should be inducting Randy.
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Who will be accepting the induction?
Maybe Randy's widow, Lynn?
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Who will be accepting the induction?
Maybe Randy's widow, Lynn?
Did Randy have any children?
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Did Randy have any children?
Not to my knowledge.
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Not to my knowledge.
Interesting....I wonder if that was a personal choice for Randy. Between Elizabeth and Gorgeous George, Savage was no stranger to being around beautiful women.
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I've read that the reason Randy stayed covered up (wore the shirt in the ring) during his late 80s/early 90s run was because he had come off the gas (and felt he looked small) because he and Liz were trying to conceive.
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I've read that the reason Randy stayed covered up (wore the shirt in the ring) during his late 80s/early 90s run was because he had come off the gas (and felt he looked small) because he and Liz were trying to conceive.
I always wondered that. I had just assumed that he went for a new look or the cape thing was dated. He was never a big dude in my eyes. A lot of his 80's stuff show him being pretty agile and in good shape.
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He couldn't have been taking that much gas during his WWF days. He was never a big guy and he had skinny legs. Great athlete and quick as a cat in his prime.
He roided out BIGTIME during his last WCW run when he had Georgeous George in his corner. He was already in his late 40's by then so I'm sure that couldn't have helped his long term health. Guess he felt the need to do that to justify fucking a 23 year old hottie. Man, was she hot!
When I read that story that he taught himself to throw with his left hand after injuring his right arm during his baseball days....I thought that was amazing.
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He couldn't have been taking that much gas during his WWF days. He was never a big guy and he had skinny legs. Great athlete and quick as a cat in his prime.
He roided out BIGTIME during his last WCW run when he had Georgeous George in his corner. He was already in his late 40's by then so I'm sure that couldn't have helped his long term health. Guess he felt the need to do that to justify fucking a 23 year old hottie. Man, was she hot!
When I read that story that he taught himself to throw with his left hand after injuring his right arm during his baseball days....I thought that was amazing.
yeah he looked big like he never looked,was on steiner protocol lol I bet...actually looked the part then...was a great player minors cincy reds..
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yeah he looked big like he never looked,was on steiner protocol lol I bet...actually looked the part then...was a great player minors cincy reds..
It seems like alot of those guys arms instantly added another inch or so once they left WWE for WCW.
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LOL----I would always crack up as a kid when Mean Gene would stare blankly into the camera when Macho Man would say something outrageous.
R.I.P Macho man---one of the greats. I think it's pathetic that Vince appointed Hulk Hogan to induct Macho in the HOF. Those guys were NOT friends. They had a working relationship, that is all. Macho was the ultimate professional. His brother Lanny, and only Lanny, should be inducting Randy.
Check the article I linked earlier. It was Genius' idea to have Hogan induct Savage.
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Check the article I linked earlier. It was Genius' idea to have Hogan induct Savage.
Fuck Hogan. It looks to be another chance for him to hog the spotlight. Why would Lanny choose Hogan and not himself? Retarded.
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Fuck Hogan. It looks to be another chance for him to hog the spotlight. Why would Lanny choose Hogan and not himself? Retarded.
Lanny may be trying to "distance" himself after years of insisting that he would never allow Savage to be inducted without the whole family going in.
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Fuck Hogan. It looks to be another chance for him to hog the spotlight. Why would Lanny choose Hogan and not himself? Retarded.
Again, go to the link; read the article; and listen to the podcast. Genius explains it all. It was HIS idea to let Hogan induct Savage.
Lanny may be trying to "distance" himself after years of insisting that he would never allow Savage to be inducted without the whole family going in.
Actually, he claimed that he couldn't stop McMahon from inducting Savage alone. He just wouldn't be there, if that happened. But, he's had a change of heart and said the fans are who persuaded him to give WWE his blessing to put Macho in the hall.
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He couldn't have been taking that much gas during his WWF days. He was never a big guy and he had skinny legs. Great athlete and quick as a cat in his prime.
He roided out BIGTIME during his last WCW run when he had Georgeous George in his corner. He was already in his late 40's by then so I'm sure that couldn't have helped his long term health. Guess he felt the need to do that to justify fucking a 23 year old hottie. Man, was she hot!
When I read that story that he taught himself to throw with his left hand after injuring his right arm during his baseball days....I thought that was amazing.
What is it about wrestlers getting knee injuries and returning to the ring super SWOLE? Savage blew his knee in '97 or '98. He returned looking like a BEAST. Same with Triple H. After tearing his quad in 2001, he looked gigantic in 2002, especially at "Backlash", when he lost the WWF title to Hogan.
I remember, when I lived in the Tampa Bay area, seeing Savage at Gold's Gym in Pinellas Park, with his leg in a cast and his girlfriend and another girl helping him to his car. He often showed up at Tyrone Mall in St. Petersburg. He was a LOT bigger than he looked on TV. I guess he was only "small" when compared to Hogan.
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What is it about wrestlers getting knee injuries and returning to the ring super SWOLE? Savage blew his knee in '97 or '98. He returned looking like a BEAST. Same with Triple H. After tearing his quad in 2001, he looked gigantic in 2002, especially at "Backlash", when he lost the WWF title to Hogan.
I remember, when I lived in the Tampa Bay area, seeing Savage at Gold's Gym in Pinellas Park, with his leg in a cast and his girlfriend and another girl helping him to his car. He often showed up at Tyrone Mall in St. Petersburg. He was a LOT bigger than he looked on TV. I guess he was only "small" when compared to Hogan.
I suspect the big stars have more time to recover, including training and eating better. In the 60's and 70's - and even later; depending on your position in the hierarchy - you didn't get paid (or received reduced pay) if you didn't work, so guys who got hurt would return to action before they probably should have.
Main-event guys making big bucks, like Savage & Hunter, could afford to take off all the time they wanted to heal up and get into phenomenal shape before returning to work.
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I suspect the big stars have more time to recover, including training and eating better. In the 60's and 70's - and even later; depending on your position in the hierarchy - you didn't get paid (or received reduced pay) if you didn't work, so guys who got hurt would return to action before they probably should have.
Main-event guys making big bucks, like Savage & Hunter, could afford to take off all the time they wanted to heal up and get into phenomenal shape before returning to work.
Good point. I imagine being off the road, able to recover from workouts and eating better food than on the road can be simliar to a football player who gets to recover after the season is over.
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Good point. I imagine being off the road, able to recover from workouts and eating better food than on the road can be simliar to a football player who gets to recover after the season is over.
Sure!
Even with the aid of PED's, the more time and energy one can devote to training and nutrition, the better they will look and perform.
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Sure!
Even with the aid of PED's, the more time and energy one can devote to training and nutrition, the better they will look and perform.
Perfect example was when the Rock debuted at the Survivor series a few years back. Lookin' jacked and lean.
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Perfect example was when the Rock debuted at the Survivor series a few years back. Lookin' jacked and lean.
Rock actually regained size he intentionally lost for non-action movie roles.
I don't recall his blowing a knee, at least not since 1997 before he joined the Nation of Domination.
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I just watched disc one of his new DVD, very interesting. Randy really cared abut the fans. Never wore the same outfit to the same arena, believed he owed it to the fans to see different costumes. Was also a true perfectionist.
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I just watched disc one of his new DVD, very interesting. Randy really cared abut the fans. Never wore the same outfit to the same arena, believed he owed it to the fans to see different costumes. Was also a true perfectionist.
He has a new DVD?
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"hall of fame"
oh, brother ::)
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"hall of fame"
oh, brother ::)
What?
Just because they inducted Koko B. Ware before Karl Gotch...
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He has a new DVD?
Yes, 1st disc is interview with Lanny and a few other wrestlers, Ziggy, Sheamus etc. Very interesting.
I would suggest giving Chris Jericho's podcast a listen when he interviews Lanny. Randy was very bitter that VonErich's got into the HOF but not the Poffo's and basically shunned Vince. After Randy's death, Lanny was also very hurt as no one from the WWE Executive offices called to give their condolences. But after 4 yrs since Randy died Lanny felt he owed it to the fans....I am also sure he got a big pay day...
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Yes, 1st disc is interview with Lanny and a few other wrestlers, Ziggy, Sheamus etc. Very interesting.
I would suggest giving Chris Jericho's podcast a listen when he interviews Lanny. Randy was very bitter that VonErich's got into the HOF but not the Poffo's and basically shunned Vince. After Randy's death, Lanny was also very hurt as no one from the WWE Executive offices called to give their condolences. But after 4 yrs since Randy died Lanny felt he owed it to the fans....I am also sure he got a big pay day...
Savage was a real business man, first & foremost. It was Savage's decision when he was alive. Now, it is Lanny's decision, and I don't think Savage would fault his brother for making a business decision that financially benefits himself and the family.
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Savage was a real business man, first & foremost. It was Savage's decision when he was alive. Now, it is Lanny's decision, and I don't think Savage would fault his brother for making a business decision that financially benefits himself and the family.
And this is exactly why he never got dicked around by promoters and never got caught up in the politicing backstage. He was always smart. Second place to this was Warrior. They both knew how to look after themselves and their interests.
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And this is exactly why he never got dicked around by promoters and never got caught up in the politicing backstage. He was always smart. Second place to this was Warrior. They both knew how to look after themselves and their interests.
Hellwig was shrewd, which somewhat made up some for his lack in other areas.
Also, I respect anyone who can successfully take on Vince!!
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Hellwig was shrewd, which somewhat made up some for his lack in other areas.
Also, I respect anyone who can successfully take on Vince!!
U and me both brother. Hellwig was just an ass and unprofessional about it but he gave it to Vince hard in the bum without vaseline.
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U and me both brother. Hellwig was just an ass and unprofessional about it but he gave it to Vince hard in the bum without vaseline.
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Brings Mel Philips, Pat Paterson and Barry O to mind, no? ;D
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Brings Mel Philips, Pat Paterson and Barry O to mind, no? ;D
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There's a love triangle if there ever was one...then throw in the ring boys ...
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If you watch the MM DVD, it was one of the Saturday night main events where MM knocked Liz off the ring apron and Hulk carried her to the back. Well supposedly Randy was rally peeved that he did that and he and Hogan had words (shoot) unbeknownst the camera was rolling..
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If you watch the MM DVD, it was one of the Saturday night main events where MM knocked Liz off the ring apron and Hulk carried her to the back. Well supposedly Randy was rally peeved that he did that and he and Hogan had words (shoot) unbeknownst the camera was rolling..
That wasn't a work?
Wasn't that the segment in which Savage blasted Hogan with the belt, and then nailed Beefcake?
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That wasn't a work?
Wasn't that the segment in which Savage blasted Hogan with the belt, and then nailed Beefcake?
Haha haha if that was a shoot all credit goes to Vince for getting Savage to agree to Elizabeth being Hogans valet for that short period and the Flair Elizabeth angle.
I just re watched the Hogan Savage confrontation in the locker room where Liz is getting looked at and Randy gives her a violent shove. It was really shocking considering the era.
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That wasn't a work?
Wasn't that the segment in which Savage blasted Hogan with the belt, and then nailed Beefcake?
Correct. That was a work 100%. Savage was ok with that. He did the same thing with George Steele back in 1986 on SNME in December.