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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #750 on: October 10, 2011, 07:29:03 AM »
Nope. Even 100 MikMaqs wouldn't solve even most simple problem from serious math competition. It takes intelligence to do so. Diversity is worthless in this case, it's always about choosing optimal strategy and solving problems. There are correct solutions and incorrect ones, crowd could create 1000000 solutions but 99.9% are wrong. Thus, system where few people intelectually superior to the others have the power is perfect system. Capitalistic system values real problem solving skills and truth to be told even though most Americans are superb at discussing worthless shit, when they face real problem they dunno what to do. That's exactly why top IT companies recruit people from eastern Europe and Asia. Americans suck and have huge demands. You are used to so high standards of life that you're simply not cost-effective.

I have forseen this many years ago. As a kid I realised 90% of people are worthless now coz so much work is done by machines and manual labour becomes worthless. I think there were people who knew that as well, that's why they encouraged people to educate, get a degree and so on. They created billions of useless jobs and even whole new useless branches of "science" where there are no strict axioms and every bullshit can pass. Unfortunatelly it didn't work, coz we advanced technologically faster than we evolved (obviously) and it turned out that educating people won't make them IT specialists, coz for the most part once you're born and idiot you will remain an idiot. At the same time I think average level of life advanced too fast and expectations got incredibly high. Then there comes economical crisis and this system built on lies simply collapses. We have to face the fact that not everyone is equal and some people are useless. What should we do with useless people? I have no idea.
Lolz alright well I guess I'm trolling if I don't come out with the truth. I'm studying industrial engineering, so to pretend like I don't understand how these systems work when all I study is systems engineering is a joke.

When I design a system, I don't need knowitall math guru's in the mix, I have a system it works well, what I need is someone with knowledge of how people work, how my systems will fail, how to get people on task. I don't want someone trying to turn it into a bunch of numbers, I need someone that is gonna humanize the system inorder to keep performance high.

Trust me I've seen to much of the applied  sciences turning people into industrial machines, when it simply don't work. It causes burn out, depression, anger, hostility etc.

A company don't give a shit if they run you into the ground, they know they can just replace you with someone younger, an economy that burns through people in the long run isn't sustainable or atleast not desirable in any country that can be considered a true democracy.

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #751 on: October 10, 2011, 07:32:16 AM »
240! 

Your posts are absolutely SOLID my friend.  They oughta be stickied somewhere.

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #752 on: October 10, 2011, 07:34:30 AM »
240! 

Your posts are absolutely SOLID my friend.  They oughta be stickied somewhere.

thank you my friend. 

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #753 on: October 10, 2011, 07:35:35 AM »
while i agree completely that wallstreet/govt are some heartless bitches who milk the middle and poor class for their own gains...

I have to disagree with the many college grads who feel entitled to a job.

You don't get any kind of guarantee when you get a college degree.  You CHOOSE to take on the debt, you CHOOSE to spend 4 years smoking pot and enjoying the loan $ INSTEAD of working your ass off on 2 internships in your field every year.

I worked in a college career center, and in my opinion, the biggest problem is this...
Kids don't realize the secret to getting a job is to LIVE that JOB for your 4 years in college.  

If you want to work in finance, that's awesome.  You're 18.  Don't just go to college for 4 years, get a BS in finance, then start looking for a job then post 99%er pics in anger when no job materializes.

Compare it to the 18 year old that decides he wants to work in finance... AND DOES IT RIGHT...
So he spends each of his 3 summers working internships at 3 different finance firms.  For free, while his friends are at the beach.
He should only date girls who are finance majors, or who have dads that work at banks.
He should read financial newspapers & magazines every day.  Know the world you're entering.
He should network - attend functions, build up a FB page not to get laid and brag about drinking exploits, but to get known as a kid who knows his stuff.
He should spend all 4 years designing his 'plan B' for self-employment, in case the industry starts to suck.
And if the industry does suck upon graduation, he should continue for his MBA - you get educated in recessions.

Compare this 22 year old finance guru with a shitload of experience, connections, knowledge of the industry...
with the 22 year old yelling that nobody wants to pay him for his degree.
Firms would be LUCKY to have a go-getter like the finance whiz kid who lives that shit.  
The other kid is going to do as little as possible his entire career.

Best post of the thread right here.

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #754 on: October 10, 2011, 07:39:00 AM »
while i agree completely that wallstreet/govt are some heartless bitches who milk the middle and poor class for their own gains...

I have to disagree with the many college grads who feel entitled to a job.

You don't get any kind of guarantee when you get a college degree.  You CHOOSE to take on the debt, you CHOOSE to spend 4 years smoking pot and enjoying the loan $ INSTEAD of working your ass off on 2 internships in your field every year.

I worked in a college career center, and in my opinion, the biggest problem is this...
Kids don't realize the secret to getting a job is to LIVE that JOB for your 4 years in college.  

If you want to work in finance, that's awesome.  You're 18.  Don't just go to college for 4 years, get a BS in finance, then start looking for a job then post 99%er pics in anger when no job materializes.

Compare it to the 18 year old that decides he wants to work in finance... AND DOES IT RIGHT...
So he spends each of his 3 summers working internships at 3 different finance firms.  For free, while his friends are at the beach.
He should only date girls who are finance majors, or who have dads that work at banks.
He should read financial newspapers & magazines every day.  Know the world you're entering.
He should network - attend functions, build up a FB page not to get laid and brag about drinking exploits, but to get known as a kid who knows his stuff.
He should spend all 4 years designing his 'plan B' for self-employment, in case the industry starts to suck.
And if the industry does suck upon graduation, he should continue for his MBA - you get educated in recessions.

Compare this 22 year old finance guru with a shitload of experience, connections, knowledge of the industry...
with the 22 year old yelling that nobody wants to pay him for his degree.
Firms would be LUCKY to have a go-getter like the finance whiz kid who lives that shit.  
The other kid is going to do as little as possible his entire career.

Exactly

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #755 on: October 10, 2011, 07:40:14 AM »
LEGITIMATE CONCERN HERE ALERT. LEGITIMATE CONCERN HERE ALERT. LEGITIMATE CONCERN HERE ALERT


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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #756 on: October 10, 2011, 07:41:01 AM »
Props, 240 on those last two posts.

The only caveat is that it's easy to say that now.  18's a different mind set for most, and we forget how we were at that time.  That's why I generally give a pass to a lot of people who babble nonsense at that age.
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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #757 on: October 10, 2011, 07:46:04 AM »

I worked in a college career center, and in my opinion, the biggest problem is this...
Kids don't realize the secret to getting a job is to LIVE that JOB for your 4 years in college.  

If you want to work in finance, that's awesome.  You're 18.  Don't just go to college for 4 years, get a BS in finance, then start looking for a job then post 99%er pics in anger when no job materializes.

Compare it to the 18 year old that decides he wants to work in finance... AND DOES IT RIGHT...
So he spends each of his 3 summers working internships at 3 different finance firms.  For free, while his friends are at the beach.
He should only date girls who are finance majors, or who have dads that work at banks.
He should read financial newspapers & magazines every day.  Know the world you're entering.
He should network - attend functions, build up a FB page not to get laid and brag about drinking exploits, but to get known as a kid who knows his stuff.
He should spend all 4 years designing his 'plan B' for self-employment, in case the industry starts to suck.
And if the industry does suck upon graduation, he should continue for his MBA - you get educated in recessions.

I do agree that you need to live something to be good at it. But there's a huge risk with  this method of thinking. People tend to develop strong biases, towards  their own field and develop an inability to understand how the minds of  others work.

In industrial engineering you need to think of nothing but systems, the problem is you need workers to use your systems, if you fundamentally lack a understanding of the workers viewpoint your done. This is the problem with our modern education system, social and hard sciences put themselves at odds with eachother, when the reality is we need synergy between the two more than ever before.


We need creativity to compete with china, you can't get that from pragmatism, trust me man, as a person that studies the interaction of people with systems(as you suggest I should) on a daily basis, the systems is FUCKED!!!!

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #758 on: October 10, 2011, 07:49:47 AM »
Having 8 Children does not help matters at all.


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« Reply #759 on: October 10, 2011, 07:52:36 AM »
Having 8 Children does not help matters at all.



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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #760 on: October 10, 2011, 07:56:09 AM »
Hope & Change! 

There you go again.

Politicizing things that go beyond political boundaries.  Any chance to bash obama and make your side look petty and close-minded.

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #761 on: October 10, 2011, 07:56:55 AM »
Hope & Change! 
Strange you waited until you seen a black man before you say that. I wish the god you'd get on with this shit in a bar, you'd be in a dumpster in minutes. ;)

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« Reply #762 on: October 10, 2011, 08:00:22 AM »
There you go again.

Politicizing Racializing things that go beyond political boundaries.  Any chance to bash obama and make your side look petty and close-minded.

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« Reply #763 on: October 10, 2011, 08:05:28 AM »
There you go again.

Politicizing things that go beyond political boundaries.  Any chance to bash obama and make your side look petty and close-minded.
His brain is stuck in fight or flight responses, he feels his survival is dependent on making the right decisions, the oldest  part of his brain(reptilian part) which feels fear and panic dominate his mind. When your scared for your life you lack the ability to work with complex emotions and tends to think in a repetitive stereotyped mindset, his ego is searching  for rigid and consistent value system in oder to reduce his perceived fear of death.

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« Reply #764 on: October 10, 2011, 08:16:06 AM »
while i agree completely that wallstreet/govt are some heartless bitches who milk the middle and poor class for their own gains...

I have to disagree with the many college grads who feel entitled to a job.

You don't get any kind of guarantee when you get a college degree.  You CHOOSE to take on the debt, you CHOOSE to spend 4 years smoking pot and enjoying the loan $ INSTEAD of working your ass off on 2 internships in your field every year.

I worked in a college career center, and in my opinion, the biggest problem is this...
Kids don't realize the secret to getting a job is to LIVE that JOB for your 4 years in college. 

If you want to work in finance, that's awesome.  You're 18.  Don't just go to college for 4 years, get a BS in finance, then start looking for a job then post 99%er pics in anger when no job materializes.

Compare it to the 18 year old that decides he wants to work in finance... AND DOES IT RIGHT...
So he spends each of his 3 summers working internships at 3 different finance firms.  For free, while his friends are at the beach.
He should only date girls who are finance majors, or who have dads that work at banks.
He should read financial newspapers & magazines every day.  Know the world you're entering.
He should network - attend functions, build up a FB page not to get laid and brag about drinking exploits, but to get known as a kid who knows his stuff.
He should spend all 4 years designing his 'plan B' for self-employment, in case the industry starts to suck.
And if the industry does suck upon graduation, he should continue for his MBA - you get educated in recessions.

Compare this 22 year old finance guru with a shitload of experience, connections, knowledge of the industry...
with the 22 year old yelling that nobody wants to pay him for his degree.
Firms would be LUCKY to have a go-getter like the finance whiz kid who lives that shit. 
The other kid is going to do as little as possible his entire career.
thats what people SHOULD do. absolutely. but that isnt an argument against the occupy wall street protestors or the 99%'ers. they arent saying "hey, we went to college, so we automatically deserve high paying jobs right after graduation !". what they are saying is that the current system is totally fucked up, from education to economics. and they are right. why would we even ALLOW colleges to offer degrees that are worthless in the job market ? why would we ALLOW people to be encouraged down the college path when they arent college material ? why isnt vocational education offered and encouraged, susidized by the government? how come we ALLOW upper management to fire thousands of employees only to then absorb that $$$ they save into their own paychecks ?? how come we ALLOW companies to outsource jobs overseas ?  how come we have a minimum wage that doesnt reflect the cost of living ?  how come we spend more on healthcare than every country on the planet yet millions go uninsured, the insured have to pay copays, deductables, and premiums; and people are put in situations where they have to choose between their homes and their health because of massive doctors/medication fees?   



Exactly

you have to become a "Tbombz" in your own field
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« Reply #765 on: October 10, 2011, 08:21:19 AM »


Ron Paul supporters are concerned, not anti-America, unless you consider RP anti-America.
fucking moronic commercial, china has no chance of surpassing of us, their entire economy is dependant upon ours, and all that debt we owe them.. we pay it bak when and IF we want to

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« Reply #766 on: October 10, 2011, 08:24:26 AM »


China has time, lots of people and they are already producing 99% of the stuff you use in everyday life. Rather than thinking about the US "exporting" jobs to China, you should ask yourself what would happen if the Chinese chose not to produce for you anymore.

that would be an amazing thing for the united states. it would allow the return of our manufacturing base, what made us a superpower in the first place.

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« Reply #767 on: October 10, 2011, 08:28:39 AM »
THIS

Don't see any Chinese occupying Wall Street either, they're too busy working and making better lives for themselves.  Not asking for any handouts.

See any Koreans down there? 

SPOT ON.

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« Reply #768 on: October 10, 2011, 08:32:29 AM »
that would be an amazing thing for the united states. it would allow the return of our manufacturing base, what made us a superpower in the first place.

Yep, and now tell me where you find the people willing to work for 200 $ per month so that you can build products consumers can afford.

It will never happen again, the west has given it's power to the east, and  the east is slowly learning to utilize it.

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« Reply #769 on: October 10, 2011, 08:42:14 AM »
Yep, and now tell me where you find the people willing to work for 200 $ per month so that you can build products consumers can afford.

It will never happen again, the west has given it's power to the east, and  the east is slowly learning to utilize it.
americans were able to afford their own products up untill the 1980's when all the major corporations, business that were experienceing record profits at the time, starting outsourcing jobs overseas.  our incomes went down, and so did the price of the goods we had to buy. if the jobs come back.. our incomes go back up, and we can afford the products we produce.

its quite simple.

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« Reply #770 on: October 10, 2011, 08:42:31 AM »
Yep, and now tell me where you find the people willing to work for 200 $ per month so that you can build products consumers can afford.

It will never happen again, the west has given it's power to the east, and  the east is slowly learning to utilize it.
Yeah but the west still has an advantage in capital intensive manufacturing. Germany dominates in this stuff. The problem is our work force lacks creativity the enterprising spirit america was born into is gone, all because all the capital is in the hands of a select few. Gm didn't fail because america wages were to high, it failed because they couldn't compete with the asian brands(who build in the states btw). When oil prices went up gm didn't make smaller and lighter cars, they make a hybrid suv, if capital wasn't in the hands of only a few at gm, things would of ended up much different.  

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« Reply #771 on: October 10, 2011, 08:43:20 AM »
Yeah but the west still has an advantage in capital intensive manufacturing. Germany dominates in this stuff. The problem is our work force lacks creativity the enterprising spirit america was born into is gone, all because all the capital is in the hands of a select few. Gm didn't fail because america wages were to high, it failed because they couldn't compete with the asian brands(who build in the states btw). When oil prices went up gm didn't make smaller and lighter cars, they make a hybrid suv, if capital wasn't in the hands of only a few at gm, things would of ended up much different.  
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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #772 on: October 10, 2011, 08:45:07 AM »
americans were able to afford their own products up untill the 1980's when all the major corporations, business that were experienceing record profits at the time, starting outsourcing jobs overseas.  our incomes went down, and so did the price of the goods we had to buy. if the jobs come back.. our incomes go back up, and we can afford the products we produce.

its quite simple.

Impossible, especially with China being able to market the same stuff you do in a few years.

Korea will come first in electronics though.

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« Reply #773 on: October 10, 2011, 08:46:38 AM »
Perhaps I can be of some assistance.

The government deregulated the banking industry, which proceeded to hold the financial system hostage and demonstrate that it's members, although unelected, are powerful enough to dictate government policy, are poor stewards of the future of the country they feed on, and are criminals who knowingly blackmailed the country for taxpayer funded bailouts after being the ones who sold it down the river in the first place.  Hence the depression.

Also the politicians are bought & paid for, we're committed to a neverending and badly handled war which no one seems to even bother questioning any more in spite of what it costs, the minimum wage is a joke and isn't representative of the value of labor as demonstrated by profits and the cost of living, and the modern financial system is geared to reward those which feed it the most bodies without regard for decency or sustainability.  So laugh it up @ the dying canaries, but if things don't turn around, you "hard workers" might be next.  

If you want to gripe about poor choices and moral vacuity, consider those who mortgaged your country and future.  Keep your eye on the ball, kids.

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Re: Some of These "99 Percenters" are complete MORONS-Incredibly Stupid
« Reply #774 on: October 10, 2011, 08:47:02 AM »
These people suck.