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Title: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 07, 2006, 04:28:07 PM
Milos said he thought he would compete at the Romanian GP but I guess the pics needed to be taken. Oh well there is always the Australian to pull out of. ;D
Title: Re: Romanian Gp where was Milos?????.
Post by: Stavios on October 07, 2006, 07:50:00 PM
Why are you so obsessed with the man ?
Title: Re: Romanian Gp where was Milos?????.
Post by: ForMotherRussia on October 07, 2006, 09:42:30 PM
I know right... Miss Karen is all up in his business. Eheh Milos ona stvarno ima nesto protiv tebe, nimalo da te popusti   ;)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Ron on October 07, 2006, 09:51:04 PM

Milos wasnt training for the Romanian GP - as he was at the Olympia having fun, taking pictures, enjoying himself - and based on that line up - if Milos traned even for a few weeks, and got into shape, he probably would have qualified for the 2007 O there...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Stavios on October 07, 2006, 10:08:57 PM
Milos wasnt training for the Romanian GP - as he was at the Olympia having fun, taking pictures, enjoying himself - and based on that line up - if Milos traned even for a few weeks, and got into shape, he probably would have qualified for the 2007 O there...


Yes !!!!

Milos is my favorite bber of all time and he would have placed really well at this year's O with his package of the 1998 Mr.Olympia

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 07, 2006, 11:11:08 PM
Then why did he hint he might be on stage?????.As for being on the guy no not at all I wish him all the luck in the Australian as he will need it I think Big Luke Wood is set for that home crowd call as Lee is now with PDI and won't be allowed to compete. ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 07, 2006, 11:21:38 PM
You know I'm starting to dig this Miss Karen. She's getting argumentative and was even shit talking in another thread.

Great stuff.

The Beef
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 07, 2006, 11:28:02 PM
Thanks.Never go into a thread wanting to fight but hey if those little bitches want to start I will run with them.I am a nobody just like the rest of the no names on here.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: DVSGOD on October 08, 2006, 12:25:34 AM
Thanks.Never go into a thread wanting to fight but hey if those little bitches want to start I will run with them.I am a nobody just like the rest of the no names on here.
I think you are a man , correct?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 08, 2006, 12:29:51 AM
I think you are a woman correct I am nobody just like the rest of the no names.Josh Jose Kym Amber GS Flicker who cares everyone is no one.Get It.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: DVSGOD on October 08, 2006, 12:37:50 AM
I think you are a woman correct I am nobody just like the rest of the no names.Josh Jose Kym Amber GS Flicker who cares everyone is no one.Get It.
No , but you are a man and you call yourself "Miss" why ?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 08, 2006, 01:45:52 AM
Missing? ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: YoungBlood on October 08, 2006, 09:11:56 AM
Then why did he hint he might be on stage?????.

Because he was teasing you/us. Now, fall asleep and get over it. ::)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: kyomu on October 08, 2006, 09:29:53 AM
Milos has interesting physic.
You'll never be surprised at his physic. But,its like"Mmm good legs and abs.... good cuts....Oh Wait! Pretty damn good symmetry! Should be in top 5!"
 Gradually convince you. Its interesting.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Stavios on October 08, 2006, 09:34:06 AM
here is Milos owning Ronnie and Dillet with a superior front relaxed pose

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: warchild on October 08, 2006, 10:16:34 AM
Miss Karen reminds me of Crazy Alice from the Stern show, with her rants and run-on sentences.....you're definitely wack pack material
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 08, 2006, 10:19:53 AM
here is Milos owning Ronnie and Dillet with a superior front relaxed pose



That is a breath taking shot. Milos rules!

Where did you get it?

The Beef
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: dknole on October 08, 2006, 10:28:34 AM
Miss Karen reminds me of Crazy Alice from the Stern show, with her rants and run-on sentences.....you're definitely wack pack material

on the mark!

f-u Artie.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Stavios on October 08, 2006, 11:53:28 AM
That is a breath taking shot. Milos rules!

Where did you get it?

The Beef

on Milos's forum !

there is a lot of pics from the 90's in there
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 10:04:10 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 10:05:04 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on October 10, 2006, 10:06:53 AM
;D

Damn, those are the whitest legs I've ever seen. You need to get out more and get some sun! 
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 10, 2006, 10:10:26 AM
Milos you look 3 weeks out in those pics. Waistline is almost dissapearing.

Are you just looking to add a bit of mass before you step on stage again.

Also right now with supposedly a new judging criteria in place do you think a physique such as your own will fair better than it did when you were competing before.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 10:15:31 AM
Milos said he thought he would compete at the Romanian GP but I guess the pics needed to be taken. Oh well there is always the Australian to pull out of. ;D

I said that I might even compete in one of those shows...
These pics were taken couple of hours before the contest...Jay asked me if I can help him with his tan - and I had to stop shaving (as I was trying to REALLY step on that stage and compete and surprise everyone).
Well, I couldn't shave my back and had nobody to really help me with that (maybe I could have asked Jay ::)...I wonder if he would agree to shave my straited glutes too...?)

Anyway, promotor of the show asked me if I could MC the show - and I decided to pass the opportunity to compete...
After all I said - I will compete again only IF I can be better than ever before...

After the show I did ask Hide's friend to come and shave my back...but after few minutes I did change my mind as I was in Europe for Hide - and I did want to focus on him and possibly help him qualify for the Olympia...
Hide looked GREAT and placed fourth - almost making the qualifying spot...

As far as my biggest fan - miss Karen - I just want to share these pics posing next to Jay (do I need to mention - Mr. Olympia and Grand Prix triple winner of the tour) - to see that I wasn't just "pretending"...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 10:17:51 AM
Damn, those are the whitest legs I've ever seen. You need to get out more and get some sun! 

I was severely burned - remember?
I can't see the sun for another year...

Now - those legs are not just white - they are NEON bright...I could light up the stage in Romania - as promotor didn't have any proper lights...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: shootfighter1 on October 10, 2006, 10:21:09 AM
Ripped.  Your shape is what is needed in BBing these days Milos.  Unbelievable legs and abdomen.

I hope you can put aside enough time to eat well these next few months and compete in the Australian or a show next year.

Great seeing you at the Olympia.  Next time I see you I will again be 10 lbs heavier.  Healing well.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: BigWhoop on October 10, 2006, 10:24:53 AM
Milos,

Looking good, you need to have a come back show to inspire some of us with our workouts cause the latest batch of competetors look like garbage!

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 10:40:40 AM
Milos you look 3 weeks out in those pics. Waistline is almost dissapearing.

Are you just looking to add a bit of mass before you step on stage again.

Also right now with supposedly a new judging criteria in place do you think a physique such as your own will fair better than it did when you were competing before.

3 weeks out?

Condition wise - I would have no problem stepping on that stage.
Dream tan (as I would have no time for anything else), oil, stage lights (OK - in Romania lights were a....problem...to say it politely) and another couple of pounds of water loss (which did happen - as I timed it for the stage...) would get me in very, very good condition...

Size was the reason I decided to pass - as I just wasn't big or full enough...
Trips to Santa Susanna, Las Vegas and Euro tour did make me drop more than 10 pounds...and that is just too much weight for me to loose (if I plan to step on the stage with Ronnie and Jay...)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: njflex on October 10, 2006, 11:51:12 AM
3 weeks out?

Condition wise - I would have no problem stepping on that stage.
Dream tan (as I would have no time for anything else), oil, stage lights (OK - in Romania lights were a....problem...to say it politely) and another couple of pounds of water loss (which did happen - as I timed it for the stage...) would get me in very, very good condition...

Size was the reason I decided to pass - as I just wasn't big or full enough...
Trips to Santa Susanna, Las Vegas and Euro tour did make me drop more than 10 pounds...and that is just too much weight for me to loose (if I plan to step on the stage with Ronnie and Jay...)
dosen't matter still classy physique,easy top 5 as is,did not lose a step ,no such thing as a retirement for this guy,sick build even for "maintence" look,prop's......
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 10, 2006, 11:59:42 AM
Ok Milos,

Not 3 weeks out, let me rephrase that 3 HOURS out, you did look great.

You have the type of physique that many of us (including myself) aspire to achieve someday. Symmetry, balance, asthetics. You have the total package.

Best of luck whenever you do decide to step onstage.

p.s........glad to see you still in great shape after stepping out from under the lights, and not letting yourself get out of shape, like other pros (shawn ray).

3 weeks out?

Condition wise - I would have no problem stepping on that stage.
Dream tan (as I would have no time for anything else), oil, stage lights (OK - in Romania lights were a....problem...to say it politely) and another couple of pounds of water loss (which did happen - as I timed it for the stage...) would get me in very, very good condition...

Size was the reason I decided to pass - as I just wasn't big or full enough...
Trips to Santa Susanna, Las Vegas and Euro tour did make me drop more than 10 pounds...and that is just too much weight for me to loose (if I plan to step on the stage with Ronnie and Jay...)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Petrucci on October 10, 2006, 12:30:51 PM
Milos, you look just great!!!! let me ask you one thing...

how the f*ck do you maintain your condition year round??? strict diet with medium to high aerobics???
its like every picture i see with you, you are in shape to enter any show...its incredible
congratulations!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 03:16:54 PM
Milos, you look just great!!!! let me ask you one thing...

how the f*ck do you maintain your condition year round??? strict diet with medium to high aerobics???
its like every picture i see with you, you are in shape to enter any show...its incredible
congratulations!

I want to look certain way - year around...not only on the day of the contest...
I train, eat...live accordingly...

As far as cardio (aerobics) - I don't do any...as most of my weight training sessions become almost aerobic (giant sets...).
Also it is matter of knowing how many calories (protein/carbs/fat) is needed to maintain (decrease or increase?) body weight...muscle mass...body fat...

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: swilkins1984 on October 10, 2006, 04:43:42 PM
Wow Milos....You need to get on stage fast looking the way you do in those pics! You are aging like a fine wine and I cant wait to see you back in the mix. BTW I read your comments on Mustafa and I was wondering have you ever seen him shredded not just cut or ripped?  Mustafa has a whole lot of potential even if some say his physique is sort of Frankenstein-like.  Maybe it is his genetics that makes it hard for him to drop fat and water but it is probably his lack of discipline in contest prep.  Not everyone can eat anything like Flex Wheeler and still win a contest.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: torquemada on October 10, 2006, 05:18:44 PM
Milos's R leg looks great considering that knee injury was so bad.  Big respect for that...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 08:19:57 PM
Wow Milos....You need to get on stage fast looking the way you do in those pics! You are aging like a fine wine and I cant wait to see you back in the mix. BTW I read your comments on Mustafa and I was wondering have you ever seen him shredded not just cut or ripped?  Mustafa has a whole lot of potential even if some say his physique is sort of Frankenstein-like.  Maybe it is his genetics that makes it hard for him to drop fat and water but it is probably his lack of discipline in contest prep.  Not everyone can eat anything like Flex Wheeler and still win a contest.


Yes - I've sen Mustafa in shape once - Grand Prix 2003 when he did look phenomenal...
Believe me it is not genetics...it is lack of discipline and inability to diet...
Guy gets hungry and he eats...as simple as that...
Also he loves NATURAL foods...like natural pineapple at midnight with natural rice (pound of rice to be more exact) as he feels that his body needs carbs to be able to sleep well...etc...etc...etc

If he would only be professional and really care for his family - than he would diet and do cardio and make some money for them (as he is certainly capable of placing in the money IF he is in shape...)
One reason I didn't compete in Romania was also that he wasn't there...If he was in either Romania or Holland I would have compete just to show him few things he needs to see...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Stavios on October 10, 2006, 08:24:25 PM
wasn't it pissing you off when you saw him cheat on his diet all the way to the 2005 O ?
must be frustrating for a trainer when his guy don't follow anything
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: swilkins1984 on October 10, 2006, 08:51:40 PM
Mustafa's gotta give up the bread to put bread on the table.  :)  He was humbled at the Olympia seemingly, but I heard he went ballistic at the Arnold because of his placing saying how he could not feed his family.  What a shame to have potential and not tap into it.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Stavios on October 10, 2006, 08:56:31 PM
Mustafa's gotta give up the bread to put bread on the table.  :)  He was humbled at the Olympia seemingly, but I heard he went ballistic at the Arnold because of his placing saying how he could not feed his family.  What a shame to have potential and not tap into it.

if he is so poor how does he pay for his gear and travel cost ?

does he have a sponsor ?

he place out of the money at every show so his kids must not eat a lot those days...

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 10, 2006, 11:40:58 PM
wasn't it pissing you off when you saw him cheat on his diet all the way to the 2005 O ?
must be frustrating for a trainer when his guy don't follow anything

I don't ever get frustrated...but I do tell my friends (athletes) that they are not cheating me...but themselves.
I did 110 shows in my life and prepare others for few more hundreds of shows...I know that if you leave the guy with no carbs for seven days and two hours of cardio per day - it would be quite impossible that guy gains weight...has double chin and talks to everyone who walks in the gym...

Mustafa is just sad example of incredible potential who do to his unprofessionalism left his family in position that he has to scam people in order to feed them instead of doing it right way - and earning GREAT living he would be capable off - if he just does his homework...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 11, 2006, 05:03:28 AM
Looking incredible brother!!!! lets change 3 hrs to 3 mins. Jut put some oil on Milos. I see your agenda and i know more than most how busy you are and to look like this mate is just crazy!!!!

YOU ARE SUCH AN INCREDIBLE INSPRIRATION!!!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: dizzleman06 on October 11, 2006, 07:54:13 AM
come on Milos and show these boys how a bodybuilder should look!  I can't freaking believe how you look...it is inspiring to say the very least!  Props for sure man!

Dizzle
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on October 11, 2006, 08:17:27 AM
I don't ever get frustrated...but I do tell my friends (athletes) that they are not cheating me...but themselves.
I did 110 shows in my life and prepare others for few more hundreds of shows...I know that if you leave the guy with no carbs for seven days and two hours of cardio per day - it would be quite impossible that guy gains weight...has double chin and talks to everyone who walks in the gym...

Mustafa is just sad example of incredible potential who do to his unprofessionalism left his family in position that he has to scam people in order to feed them instead of doing it right way - and earning GREAT living he would be capable off - if he just does his homework...

You need to put together another DVD.  I can just picture the "lifestyle segment". Footage of you smacking Mustafa around and demanding your money would be priceless.  I'd pay anything!  I can just see it now:

Milos:   Where's my money bitch?
Mustafa:  But my children are hungry and they having nothing to eat since I just finished the last pound of rice.
Milos:   Act like I care, where's my money bitch (slaps Mustafa with authority)
Mustafa:  But Milos how can you treat me this way I thought we were friends (reaches into pocket and pulls out a zip lock bag full of pineapple chunks and starts eating)
Milos:  Bitch!  I said "where's my money bitch"! (slaps pineapple chunks out of Mustafa's mouth)
Mustafa:  Please Milos (crying, sobbing and acting like an overweight trick) Please just take this IOU and stop hurting me!
Milos: (Rips Mustafa open and pulls out his kidneys) Forget it, now we're even.  Tom Prince will clear your debts just as soon as I FedEx these to him (slips kidneys and ice into Snoopy lunchbox)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 11, 2006, 01:07:49 PM
Mishko....legs look good even after your injury.  Can't even tell you tore'm up.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 12, 2006, 03:11:15 PM
Then why did he hint he might be on stage?????.As for being on the guy no not at all I wish him all the luck in the Australian as he will need it I think Big Luke Wood is set for that home crowd call as Lee is now with PDI and won't be allowed to compete. ;D

Miss Karen - I said I might do the show not exactly that I will do it...
I wish I did...but I'll have my chance...It is not like I never did any shows in my life that I have to rush back on the stage...

Australian Grand Prix is realistic possibility - as well as Ironman, Arnold Classic and everything else organized at that time...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 12, 2006, 04:07:36 PM
Milos-

A few things:

Firstly WOW you look f'ing amazing compared to JAY who is now the best bodybuilder in the world! You certainly still possess a top 10 physique that is for sure!! I am amazed at how in shape you are in year round!!!

I have read on NUMEROUS occasions that you never do cardio... Have you in the past and found it to be detrimental to your goals of maintaining size, putting on size etc? Also you have said that you have 99% blockage of 1 or more of your coronary arteries due to the synthol mistake, do you not think cardiovascular training could help with that?

Lastly how exactly did synthol cause your heart problems, i know it was injected into a vein which went up into your heart, but then what? It caused an embolus? Could this clot be removed via a thrombolytic drug?(eventhough blood is not what is causing the clot), angioplasty- whereby the balloon could push all the crap to the walls of your artery freeing up the lumen? or will you need a CABG down the road?

I know this might be a touchy subject, but you are normally no stranger to answering personal questions.. so I ask only in an effort to gain knowledge(i am a first year, first semester medical student), not to make fun of you like some idiots on this forum! I think you turned a horrible mistake into a learning experience not only for yourself but also anyone else who may make the same mistakes...

Respectfully,

FOR REAL
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 12, 2006, 04:09:08 PM
PS Seriously Miss Karen why are you ALL over Milos' case about EVERYTHING?! What problem do you have with him? Your posts are really lame and pathetic!


Even if Milos promised to compete and at the last minute wanted to go take a crap or play ping pong instead of get on stage, why do you f'ing care? Seriously? Get off his jock!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: DVSGOD on October 12, 2006, 04:17:13 PM
PS Seriously Miss Karen why are you ALL over Milos' case about EVERYTHING?! What problem do you have with him? Your posts are really lame and pathetic!


Even if Milos promised to compete and at the last minute wanted to go take a crap or play ping pong instead of get on stage, why do you f'ing care? Seriously? Get off his jock!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=54115412 (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=54115412)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: doison on October 12, 2006, 04:26:35 PM
Milos-

A few things:

Firstly WOW you look f'ing amazing compared to JAY who is now the best bodybuilder in the world! You certainly still possess a top 10 physique that is for sure!! I am amazed at how in shape you are in year round!!!

I have read on NUMEROUS occasions that you never do cardio... Have you in the past and found it to be detrimental to your goals of maintaining size, putting on size etc? Also you have said that you have 99% blockage of 1 or more of your coronary arteries due to the synthol mistake, do you not think cardiovascular training could help with that?

Lastly how exactly did synthol cause your heart problems, i know it was injected into a vein which went up into your heart, but then what? It caused an embolus? Could this clot be removed via a thrombolytic drug?(eventhough blood is not what is causing the clot), angioplasty- whereby the balloon could push all the crap to the walls of your artery freeing up the lumen? or will you need a CABG down the road?

I know this might be a touchy subject, but you are normally no stranger to answering personal questions.. so I ask only in an effort to gain knowledge(i am a first year, first semester medical student), not to make fun of you like some idiots on this forum! I think you turned a horrible mistake into a learning experience not only for yourself but also anyone else who may make the same mistakes...

Respectfully,

FOR REAL

I'm not Milos,
   But, I'm guessing that a portion of the oil acted as a clot.  I'm assuming the clot was not permanent, and unless there is any pre-existing atherosclerosis, he will not be at risk for a bypass later in life. 

I don't know the whole situation, but I don't recall him ever mentioning a PTCA or anything like that. 
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: milan03 on October 12, 2006, 04:27:29 PM
I would die to see my hero Milos going against the best one more time! ;D

Pozdrav Mishko.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 12, 2006, 06:17:07 PM
I recall him saying he has 99% blockage in 1 or more coronary arteries... ?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 13, 2006, 04:25:26 AM
Miss Karen - I said I might do the show not exactly that I will do it...
I wish I did...but I'll have my chance...It is not like I never did any shows in my life that I have to rush back on the stage...

Australian Grand Prix is realistic possibility - as well as Ironman, Arnold Classic and everything else organized at that time...

Milos, when's your Flex Europe interview with Hide coming?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 06:50:31 AM
Milos-

A few things:

Firstly WOW you look f'ing amazing compared to JAY who is now the best bodybuilder in the world! You certainly still possess a top 10 physique that is for sure!! I am amazed at how in shape you are in year round!!!

I have read on NUMEROUS occasions that you never do cardio... Have you in the past and found it to be detrimental to your goals of maintaining size, putting on size etc? Also you have said that you have 99% blockage of 1 or more of your coronary arteries due to the synthol mistake, do you not think cardiovascular training could help with that?

Lastly how exactly did synthol cause your heart problems, i know it was injected into a vein which went up into your heart, but then what? It caused an embolus? Could this clot be removed via a thrombolytic drug?(eventhough blood is not what is causing the clot), angioplasty- whereby the balloon could push all the crap to the walls of your artery freeing up the lumen? or will you need a CABG down the road?

I know this might be a touchy subject, but you are normally no stranger to answering personal questions.. so I ask only in an effort to gain knowledge(i am a first year, first semester medical student), not to make fun of you like some idiots on this forum! I think you turned a horrible mistake into a learning experience not only for yourself but also anyone else who may make the same mistakes...

Respectfully,

FOR REAL

THANKS

As far as cardio - I highly reccomend it for cardiovascular health and as aerobic activity needed to speed up metabolism and burn fat (needed for today's competitive bodybuilder).
However - some bodybuilders that have elevated metabolism and have a hard time eating enough calories daily (my case lately) simply might have to avoid it - as their caloric expenditure will greatly exceed caloric intake - hence they would loose much more than body fat...

My weight resistance training is highly aerobic - as I combine heavy compound moves with free weights with high volume giant sets (non-stop action with sometimes 20 different exercises done one after the other without any rest in between...)
I found that this kind of training does wonders for muscle maturity, "polishment"...(muscle separation, tie-inns and striations...)

As far as my synthol accident - you are correct...injected substance went through the heart (as doctors believe it happened) and created coronary artery blockage...
Certainly it is not 99% blockage as I would not be corresponding with you right now if that was the case...

Few years ago several bodybuilders (me included) did some cardiovascular testing in Orange County and at the time I was diagnosed with that blockage...
Year later however - that one (out of three arteries) that was somewhat blocked was pretty much completely cleared...and I do believe that chelation sessions + specific EDTA supplements I used helped me greatly with this issue...
[For interested - EDTA is ethylenediamine, tetraacetic acid and it is successfully used in chelation treatments...Also it is available as dietery supplement - and I used "Complementary prescriptions" Oral ChelatoRx product for couple of years...]

As you are medical student - I do appreciate your interest to learn and as you said - I have no problem discussing even embarrassing personal issues...
I made horrible mistake with synthol and I only hope that some people did get the message and used my example to learn from it - and never touch synthol AGAIN...

I honestly think that synthol usage is rare these days...and I am approached constantly by numerous athletes thanking me for speaking so openly about it.
In few instances I did have calls from some bodybuilders contacting me from the hospital as they were rushed to emergency rooms with identical problem to mine...

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 07:08:03 AM
I would die to see my hero Milos going against the best one more time! ;D

Pozdrav Mishko.

Just a little high price to pay for seeing me compete one more time...Don't you think?
Well, on the second thought - I am sure it will be worth it.

To make it easy on your family - arrange for your "services" early next year....

PS: Naravno da se salim Milane ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Bigger Business on October 13, 2006, 07:10:58 AM
To make it easy on your family - arrange for your "services" early next year....

does this mean......  :o
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 07:12:06 AM
I recall him saying he has 99% blockage in 1 or more coronary arteries... ?

I was told that I like to exaggerate (and I absolutely don't agree that I do...) - so IF I said that I guess people are right about me...But I highly doubt.
I did say one of my artery had some blockage but certainly not 99% blockage...

Can you find my "quote"....?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 07:18:48 AM
Milos, when's your Flex Europe interview with Hide coming?

You just gave me great idea...
Hide is still here (doing photoshoot for "MD" today..."Ironman" yesterday..."Sushi times" on sunday...) so I will do the interview before he goes back to Japan.

I just wish some of you guys can see Hide train - to see what intensity is all about...
I am in shape as a side effect of preparing Hide for his shows...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 13, 2006, 07:34:10 AM
milos..your physique is...how do i put it?...complete ;)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 13, 2006, 08:18:01 AM
You just gave me great idea...
Hide is still here (doing photoshoot for "MD" today..."Ironman" yesterday..."Sushi times" on sunday...) so I will do the interview before he goes back to Japan.

I just wish some of you guys can see Hide train - to see what intensity is all about...
I am in shape as a side effect of preparing Hide for his shows...

Thats great, shooting with MD. I missed the chanec again to shoot with them while i was in Vegas as i was committed to some other shoots with my great sponsors, "6 star Muscle fuel" and our times did'nt fit in with each other, but after the San Francisco we will do it than for sure!  Great opportunity Hide!!! these pics by MD always turn out magnificent.

I miss those hardcore workouts Milos!!!! i have to get back with you and Hide to do some. I am getting RUSTY!!!! 
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 13, 2006, 01:17:20 PM
I was told that I like to exaggerate (and I absolutely don't agree that I do...) - so IF I said that I guess people are right about me...But I highly doubt.
I did say one of my artery had some blockage but certainly not 99% blockage...

Can you find my "quote"....?

Milos, thank you very much for your reply!!! I cannot find your quote, as it probably doesnt exist... but for whatever reason i thought i saw you say that one artery was 99% occluded, not that 99% of your coronary arteries were blocked as obviously you wouldnt still be here like you said. Whatever the case may be, i am glad that you are alive and kicking and much improved from where you were post accident! Thank you for sharing that story with us as well as taking the time to answer my question!!

In an effort to apply what i am learning in school to bodybuilding (one of my favorite past times) i question a lot of what i hear, and want to find out the science behind it!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 13, 2006, 01:20:22 PM
One last question Milos, completely opinion based on all your years of experience...

John Cena...................

1) On steroids, GH etc currently
2) Previous user
or
3) Life time natural

I'd be interested to hear what you think as he is stirring up quite a bit of talk on the boards lately!

Thank you for your time in advance!

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 13, 2006, 04:21:53 PM
Hey Milos is it possible to give us an example of one of these GIANT SETS that you mentioned in an above post. Im really curious how "the mind" puts together a giant set, especially a 20 exercise giant set.

-how many times do u go through these?

-how long do they take ?

- and are they good for hypertrophy?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 13, 2006, 04:44:53 PM
THANKS

As far as cardio - I highly reccomend it for cardiovascular health and as aerobic activity needed to speed up metabolism and burn fat (needed for today's competitive bodybuilder).
However - some bodybuilders that have elevated metabolism and have a hard time eating enough calories daily (my case lately) simply might have to avoid it - as their caloric expenditure will greatly exceed caloric intake - hence they would loose much more than body fat...

My weight resistance training is highly aerobic - as I combine heavy compound moves with free weights with high volume giant sets (non-stop action with sometimes 20 different exercises done one after the other without any rest in between...)
I found that this kind of training does wonders for muscle maturity, "polishment"...(muscle separation, tie-inns and striations...)

As far as my synthol accident - you are correct...injected substance went through the heart (as doctors believe it happened) and created coronary artery blockage...
Certainly it is not 99% blockage as I would not be corresponding with you right now if that was the case...

Few years ago several bodybuilders (me included) did some cardiovascular testing in Orange County and at the time I was diagnosed with that blockage...
Year later however - that one (out of three arteries) that was somewhat blocked was pretty much completely cleared...and I do believe that chelation sessions + specific EDTA supplements I used helped me greatly with this issue...
[For interested - EDTA is ethylenediamine, tetraacetic acid and it is successfully used in chelation treatments...Also it is available as dietery supplement - and I used "Complementary prescriptions" Oral ChelatoRx product for couple of years...]

As you are medical student - I do appreciate your interest to learn and as you said - I have no problem discussing even embarrassing personal issues...
I made horrible mistake with synthol and I only hope that some people did get the message and used my example to learn from it - and never touch synthol AGAIN...

I honestly think that synthol usage is rare these days...and I am approached constantly by numerous athletes thanking me for speaking so openly about it.
In few instances I did have calls from some bodybuilders contacting me from the hospital as they were rushed to emergency rooms with identical problem to mine...


Milos what do you think of this pro's claims regarding the Synthol episode?
Quote
Esikclean is the worst choice. The makers are scammers and counterfitters.
The stuff is dirty (that's why Milos was in hospital - anaphylactic shock to the dirt, not heart problems as rumoured). I cannot say enough bad things about Esikclean and its makers. They even counterfitted Syntherol and PumpNpose!

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=182038&highlight=milos+syntherol#post182038
Quote
Milos didn't have problems becaus eof injecting in a vein. He was using Esik-clean which was dirty and he had an anaphylactic shock.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=158104&highlight=milos+syntherol#post158104
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Wout on October 13, 2006, 04:52:24 PM
Seeing you're so open, I might as well give this a shot. You seem to be holding on to your size quite well, have you been using the same supplement regime after you did your last competition?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 05:31:03 PM
Milos, thank you very much for your reply!!! I cannot find your quote, as it probably doesnt exist... but for whatever reason i thought i saw you say that one artery was 99% occluded, not that 99% of your coronary arteries were blocked as obviously you wouldnt still be here like you said. Whatever the case may be, i am glad that you are alive and kicking and much improved from where you were post accident! Thank you for sharing that story with us as well as taking the time to answer my question!!

In an effort to apply what i am learning in school to bodybuilding (one of my favorite past times) i question a lot of what i hear, and want to find out the science behind it!

Believe me I didn't say 99%...that's for sure...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 05:32:32 PM
One last question Milos, completely opinion based on all your years of experience...

John Cena...................

1) On steroids, GH etc currently
2) Previous user
or
3) Life time natural

I'd be interested to hear what you think as he is stirring up quite a bit of talk on the boards lately!

Thank you for your time in advance!



I cannot answer this question - out of respect to John...
I could only guess and I don't want to do that... ;)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 05:40:44 PM
Hey Milos is it possible to give us an example of one of these GIANT SETS that you mentioned in an above post. Im really curious how "the mind" puts together a giant set, especially a 20 exercise giant set.

-how many times do u go through these?

-how long do they take ?

- and are they good for hypertrophy?

One of these workouts will be on the FITSHOW...

There are numerous photos on my board and many threads with different training routines...

Example - ARM training

1set:
superset: Preacher biceps curls 10 reps + triceps french press 10 reps

2nd set:
Repeat 1set with added weight + cable biceps curls 10 reps + triceps push downs 10 reps

3rd set:
Repeat 2nd set with added weight + biceps barbell curls 10 reps + triceps overhead extensions 10 reps

......


With each consecutive set - add one biceps and one triceps exercise and try to increase the load (just slightly) in each and every set for each and every exercise

I did as much as 10 sets like this in one workout (meaning - 10 different exercises for biceps + 10 different exercises for triceps)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Hedgehog on October 13, 2006, 05:43:02 PM
One of these workouts will be on the FITSHOW...

There are numerous photos on my board and many threads with different training routines...

Example - ARM training

1set:
superset: Preacher biceps curls 10 reps + triceps french press 10 reps

2nd set:
Repeat 1set with added weight + cable biceps curls 10 reps + triceps push downs 10 reps

3rd set:
Repeat 2nd set with added weight + biceps barbell curls 10 reps + triceps overhead extensions 10 reps

......


With each consecutive set - add one biceps and one triceps exercise and try to increase the load (just slightly) in each and every set for each and every exercise

I did as much as 10 sets like this in one workout (meaning - 10 different exercises for biceps + 10 different exercises for triceps)

Good job on those Fit Show instructionals. Keep up the good work.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Bigger Business on October 13, 2006, 06:12:37 PM
Thats great, shooting with MD. I missed the chanec again to shoot with them while i was in Vegas as i was committed to some other shoots with my great sponsors, "6 star Muscle fuel" 

for the information of members 6 star is produced by Iovite, the company that produces muscletech supplements

they're basically muscletech products but cheaper
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 13, 2006, 06:28:05 PM
Milos what do you think of this pro's claims regarding the Synthol episode?http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=182038&highlight=milos+syntherol#post182038http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=158104&highlight=milos+syntherol#post158104

Bump!

So Milos, did you in fact have an anaphylactic shock instead of oil going in a vein?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 13, 2006, 06:28:58 PM
I cannot answer this question - out of respect to John...
I could only guess and I don't want to do that... ;)

Why not....you like it when other people name things about others.

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 13, 2006, 07:14:13 PM
I cannot answer this question - out of respect to John...
I could only guess and I don't want to do that... ;)

I am a master at reading between the lines! lol

As for the 99% thing... who knows... all that matter is, u have made a full recovery!!

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions! I look fwd to seeing u back on stage! You certainly look like u could step on stage within a days notice!

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on October 13, 2006, 11:21:15 PM
One of these workouts will be on the FITSHOW...

There are numerous photos on my board and many threads with different training routines...

Example - ARM training

1set:
superset: Preacher biceps curls 10 reps + triceps french press 10 reps

2nd set:
Repeat 1set with added weight + cable biceps curls 10 reps + triceps push downs 10 reps

3rd set:
Repeat 2nd set with added weight + biceps barbell curls 10 reps + triceps overhead extensions 10 reps

......


With each consecutive set - add one biceps and one triceps exercise and try to increase the load (just slightly) in each and every set for each and every exercise

I did as much as 10 sets like this in one workout (meaning - 10 different exercises for biceps + 10 different exercises for triceps)

Milos,

That was awesome, I can see by reading this why you dont do any extra cardio.

Thanx alot for answering all of my questions.

At the expo you were cool as well and u were open then, and are open on the boards.

Keep it up Milos.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 11:41:58 PM
Why not....you like it when other people name things about others.

 ;D

Really?

It is quite painfull to read all your nonsense...
You know what I like - yet you know nothing about me...

What I like is putting some big mouth like you (who wants to come out with "the news" about me) in position to back up what you claim...
It is understandable ::) that stand-up guy like you ::) would not want to say who is telling the stories about me taking the money and never returning back...After all in your world that is "ratting out"...

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 11:44:52 PM
Bump!

So Milos, did you in fact have an anaphylactic shock instead of oil going in a vein?

No...

Oil was in the vein OBVIOUSLY...and went through the heart causing congestive heart failure and acute respiratory distress syndrome
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 13, 2006, 11:47:32 PM
Seeing you're so open, I might as well give this a shot. You seem to be holding on to your size quite well, have you been using the same supplement regime after you did your last competition?

My supplement regime AFTER the competition is the same as always...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 12:34:58 AM
My supplement regime AFTER the competition is the same as always...

Continued use of anabolics. Would care to openly say when the last time you got off the anabolics outside of your stay in the hospital?  We all know just as soon as you got out of the hospital you were right back on the pin of anabolics to regrow yourself saying that is what anabolics were made for.  Addicts always have got answers and excuses.  There is help for addictions, but you knew that already.

I know i am a thorn in your side and you wonder how the hell i know so much about you.

-keep it real-
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 12:51:18 AM
Continued use of anabolics. Would care to openly say when the last time you got off the anabolics outside of your stay in the hospital?  We all know just as soon as you got out of the hospital you were right back on the pin of anabolics to regrow yourself saying that is what anabolics were made for.  Addicts always have got answers and excuses.  There is help for addictions, but you knew that already.

I know i am a thorn in your side and you wonder how the hell i know so much about you.

-keep it real-

You wish...You are the toxic waste I release every morning after laxative action of my favorite Turkish coffee...
You know me inside and out...Especially inside - I guess ;)

Keep it real  ;)

PS - why wait to leave the hospital when you can get all you want while you are there?


Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 02:01:31 AM
My supplement regime AFTER the competition is the same as always...

Supplements (you are referring to) are taken BEFORE the competition ::)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 06:17:12 AM
Continued use of anabolics. Would care to openly say when the last time you got off the anabolics outside of your stay in the hospital?  We all know just as soon as you got out of the hospital you were right back on the pin of anabolics to regrow yourself saying that is what anabolics were made for.  Addicts always have got answers and excuses.  There is help for addictions, but you knew that already.

I know i am a thorn in your side and you wonder how the hell i know so much about you.

-keep it real-

Why be an A-hole to Milos? You must be really bored, nothing better to do with your life?

A SMART person who is on a bodybuilding board(Who is probably a fan of bodybuilding, lifting weights etc), speaking to one of the top guys in the world, would take the opportunity to LEARN A THING OR TWO, rather than criticize them for everything?

But alas, maybe istkeepitreal knows all there is to know! Another internet expert!!!

I am suprised Milos would even waste his time answering you!! Milos must have been waiting for his eggs to boil?!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 06:44:46 AM
Bump!

So Milos, did you in fact have an anaphylactic shock instead of oil going in a vein?

Anaphylactic Shock is basically the most severe type of allergic reaction, Van-Bilderass.. You see it a lot in bee strings and peanut allergy for example..

Anaphylaxis happens when the body makes the wrong kinds of antibody, a kind called immunoglobulin E to protein in our food or to something like a drug. IgE sticks to cells in our bodies (mast cells and basophils i believe) which can release substances which have powerful effects on our blood vessels and air passages. When the same protein or drug reaches the IgE on the cells, these substances are released, causing blood vessels to relax, which makes them leaky and can cause swellings and a fall in blood pressure. At the same time they can make the breathing passages become narrow. This anaphylactic reaction can be counter acted simply by taking epinephrine... And was NOT what happened with Milos..

As in the case of Milos, I would assume it was accidentally injected into a vein, that vein took the synthol all the way up into his right vena cava's along with the deoxygenated blood dumping a good portion of it(synthol plus deox blood) into his right atrium, from there it followed the normal passage of blood down to the right ventricle and eventually up the pulmonic valve which would normally take oxygenated blood to his lungs, however the synthol acted as a type of embolus (or blockage) of the blood vessels in and around the heart causing him to have acute(rapid onset) respiratory distress as well as Congestive heart failure (CHF) which basically is a condition in which the heart can't pump enough blood to the body's other organs and a build up of fluid called congestion in the lungs. (NOT GOOD!) There are quite a few causes of CHF but in Milos case it was most certainly narrowed arteries that supply blood to the heart muscle were obstructed by the synthol making his heart unable to pump blood efficiently to his body...

Fortunately he was able to get medical treatment immediately, where they most likely gave him a combination of ACE inhibitors, beta blockers, digitalis, vasodilators... etc?ACE inhibitors and vasodilators expand blood vessels and decrease resistance. A good example of a strong vasodilator is nitroglycerine or nitro..(for what its worth, viagra is a vasodilator as well lol) This allows blood to flow more easily and makes the heart's work easier or more efficient. Beta blockers can improve how well the heart's left lower chamber (left ventricle) pumps. Digitalis increases the pumping action of the heart...

He is very fortunate to have made it out alive and thus i totally respect and understand why he decided to come out in PUBLIC and talk about what happened... For those that wish to mock him, talk crap about him for what he did, you really have a lot of growing up to do!

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 07:09:54 AM
Why be an A-hole to Milos? You must be really bored, nothing better to do with your life?

A SMART person who is on a bodybuilding board(Who is probably a fan of bodybuilding, lifting weights etc), speaking to one of the top guys in the world, would take the opportunity to LEARN A THING OR TWO, rather than criticize them for everything?

But alas, maybe istkeepitreal knows all there is to know! Another internet expert!!!

I am suprised Milos would even waste his time answering you!! Milos must have been waiting for his eggs to boil?!


Not being an a-hole at all and no I do not know all there is to know.

Milos is the one that puts himself out there as high and mighty and says listen to me do not do as I have done in the past.  Yet then goes off and does excatly what got him into trouble the first time.  Read my posts from the past and see how he address' my observations and comments. Milos jokes me and laughs at me but is unable to come on and clearly say what is true and what is false.

So as I have asked on another thread lets start with Milos saying he never put oil of ANY KIND in his biceps or calves AT ANY time after his leg accident. I will even take it one step further and ask that at ANY time after the leg accident did Milos have his biceps or calves drained of ANY kind of oil? 

-keep it real-
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 14, 2006, 07:13:27 AM
u don't know shit about milos or hormones and i'm sure milos would agree with this...why are u judging someone u don't know?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 07:17:11 AM

Not being an a-hole at all and no I do not know all there is to know.

Milos is the one that puts himself out there as high and mighty and says listen to me do not do as I have done in the past.  Yet then goes off and does excatly what got him into trouble the first time.  Read my posts from the past and see how he address' my observations and comments. Milos jokes me and laughs at me but is unable to come on and clearly say what is true and what is false.

So as I have asked on another thread lets start with Milos saying he never put oil of ANY KIND in his biceps or calves AT ANY time after his leg accident. I will even take it one step further and ask that at ANY time after the leg accident did Milos have his biceps or calves drained of ANY kind of oil? 

-keep it real-

The point is... And this should really end all discussion of this.... Milos made a HUGE mistake.. Not just by deciding to use synthol but the whole situation could have been avoided if he simply pulled back the plunger on the syringe to make sure he wasn't in a vein... As for the difference between synthol and steroids, i wont even waste my time going into it.. You can do a google search and read for yourself if you don't know..

Milos came out in public, something he NEVER had to do, to try and disuade people from using synthol and used himself as the best example of what could happen, and taking it one step further Milos was LUCKY to be alive, someone else may not have been so fortunate!

What Milos chooses to do after the fact is 100% his business and certainly none of ours... Milos allowed us into part of his personal life, but certainly not ALL OF IT.... Even if he was back to using synthol(Which i am SURE he isnt), would it be any of our business?! WHO CARES?! That is his choice and his choice alone..

I seriously think you need to adjust the way you treat people on here, yeah sure making fun of someone or teasing them is fine, i do it myself as do most people on here, but harassing someone that is only here to try and help people isn't cool.. I think at the very least you owe him an appology, that is what a real man would do!

My 2 cents
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 07:21:16 AM
The point is... And this should really end all discussion of this.... Milos made a HUGE mistake.. Not just by deciding to use synthol but the whole situation could have been avoided if he simply pulled back the plunger on the syringe to make sure he wasn't in a vein... As for the difference between synthol and steroids, i wont even waste my time going into it.. You can do a google search and read for yourself if you don't know..

Milos came out in public, something he NEVER had to do, to try and disuade people from using synthol and used himself as the best example of what could happen, and taking it one step further Milos was LUCKY to be alive, someone else may not have been so fortunate!

What Milos chooses to do after the fact is 100% his business and certainly none of ours... Milos allowed us into part of his personal life, but certainly not ALL OF IT.... Even if he was back to using synthol(Which i am SURE he isnt), would it be any of our business?! WHO CARES?! That is his choice and his choice alone..

I seriously think you need to adjust the way you treat people on here, yeah sure making fun of someone or teasing them is fine, i do it myself as do most people on here, but harassing someone that is only here to try and help people isn't cool.. I think at the very least you owe him an appology, that is what a real man would do!

My 2 cents



The point is Milos has said many times that he never has injected biceps or calves after the accident. I am simply calling him on it. I could care less what he does with himself really. he is the one that is on here as the high and mighty do no wrong person not me.

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 07:38:26 AM

The point is Milos has said many times that he never has injected biceps or calves after the accident. I am simply calling him on it. I could care less what he does with himself really. he is the one that is on here as the high and mighty do no wrong person not me.



How is he high and mighty? Why do you take his advice so personally? Never have I seen Milos post in such a way to act as if he were a do no wrong person?! Where the hell are u getting that from? Please enlighten me!

If you could care less what he does, then lets squash this silly "debate" and put an end to it!

As for doing what he tells people not to do, if that were the case, that is Milos' choice, he can still inform people of the dangers of it can't he? And try to help people make better choices? Haven't you ever known a cop that has driven home drunk before? I certainly have... Do i take his advice on not to drink and drive any less seriously than before, simply because i know he was a fool and did it? Absolutely not...

Milos seems like one of the most down to earth guys in this business filled with inflated egos and lies... Like i said before, it would behoove you to take advantage of his knowledge rather than criticize him for every move he makes or DOESNT make!!!

Have a good day!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 07:42:42 AM
How is he high and mighty? Why do you take his advice so personally? Never have I seen Milos post in such a way to act as if he were a do no wrong person?! Where the hell are u getting that from? Please enlighten me!

If you could care less what he does, then lets squash this silly "debate" and put an end to it!

As for doing what he tells people not to do, if that were the case, that is Milos' choice, he can still inform people of the dangers of it can't he? And try to help people make better choices? Haven't you ever known a cop that has driven home drunk before? I certainly have... Do i take his advice on not to drink and drive any less seriously than before, simply because i know he was a fool and did it? Absolutely not...

Milos seems like one of the most down to earth guys in this business filled with inflated egos and lies... Like i said before, it would behoove you to take advantage of his knowledge rather than criticize him for every move he makes or DOESNT make!!!

Have a good day!

Damn you almost seem like Milos himself but then again maybe you are simply just one of his well trained lap dogs.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: buffbodz on October 14, 2006, 07:49:18 AM
Milos;  With the accident, the movie, getting burned and taking quiet a bit of time off from the stage.  When was the last time you competed?  This would be more of a comeback than anyone in recent history, if you haven't stepped on a stage since the 90's.  Good luck in whatever you chose to do.  You, unlike most of the other pros, have options.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 10:16:26 AM

Not being an a-hole at all and no I do not know all there is to know.

Milos is the one that puts himself out there as high and mighty and says listen to me do not do as I have done in the past.  Yet then goes off and does excatly what got him into trouble the first time.  Read my posts from the past and see how he address' my observations and comments. Milos jokes me and laughs at me but is unable to come on and clearly say what is true and what is false.

So as I have asked on another thread lets start with Milos saying he never put oil of ANY KIND in his biceps or calves AT ANY time after his leg accident. I will even take it one step further and ask that at ANY time after the leg accident did Milos have his biceps or calves drained of ANY kind of oil? 

-keep it real-

1) Still hiding your real name and identity?
Did you ever wonder WHY?

2) As you know what you are talking about find me my posts where I sound all mighty telling people what to do (with exception what NOT to do /synthol issue/ which I made myself example of it)

3) After my leg accident I have NEVER PUT ANY KIND OF OIL into my biceps and calves. I don't need to answer your questions after you are not answering mine - but contrary to you I play fair...

4) Your continuous insults and accusations of steroid usage is getting old. I have used anabolic steroids for numerous years and I can definitely say I have been OFF more months than I would be ON in the last 15 years (since I turned professional). Again - you don't deserve even that information - but all mighty is confident enough to speak little bit about his private life. Can you do the same and tell us your name and YOUR steroid abuse?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 10:19:06 AM
Anaphylactic Shock is basically the most severe type of allergic reaction, Van-Bilderass.. You see it a lot in bee strings and peanut allergy for example..

Anaphylaxis happens when the body makes the wrong kinds of antibody, a kind called immunoglobulin E to protein in our food or to something like a drug. IgE sticks to cells in our bodies (mast cells and basophils i believe) which can release substances which have powerful effects on our blood vessels and air passages. When the same protein or drug reaches the IgE on the cells, these substances are released, causing blood vessels to relax, which makes them leaky and can cause swellings and a fall in blood pressure. At the same time they can make the breathing passages become narrow. This anaphylactic reaction can be counter acted simply by taking epinephrine... And was NOT what happened with Milos..

As in the case of Milos, I would assume it was accidentally injected into a vein, that vein took the synthol all the way up into his right vena cava's along with the deoxygenated blood dumping a good portion of it(synthol plus deox blood) into his right atrium, from there it followed the normal passage of blood down to the right ventricle and eventually up the pulmonic valve which would normally take oxygenated blood to his lungs, however the synthol acted as a type of embolus (or blockage) of the blood vessels in and around the heart causing him to have acute(rapid onset) respiratory distress as well as Congestive heart failure (CHF) which basically is a condition in which the heart can't pump enough blood to the body's other organs and a build up of fluid called congestion in the lungs. (NOT GOOD!) There are quite a few causes of CHF but in Milos case it was most certainly narrowed arteries that supply blood to the heart muscle were obstructed by the synthol making his heart unable to pump blood efficiently to his body...

Fortunately he was able to get medical treatment immediately, where they most likely gave him a combination of ACE inhibitors, beta blockers, digitalis, vasodilators... etc?ACE inhibitors and vasodilators expand blood vessels and decrease resistance. A good example of a strong vasodilator is nitroglycerine or nitro..(for what its worth, viagra is a vasodilator as well lol) This allows blood to flow more easily and makes the heart's work easier or more efficient. Beta blockers can improve how well the heart's left lower chamber (left ventricle) pumps. Digitalis increases the pumping action of the heart...

He is very fortunate to have made it out alive and thus i totally respect and understand why he decided to come out in PUBLIC and talk about what happened... For those that wish to mock him, talk crap about him for what he did, you really have a lot of growing up to do!



That is exactly what happened...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 10:24:04 AM

The point is Milos has said many times that he never has injected biceps or calves after the accident. I am simply calling him on it. I could care less what he does with himself really. he is the one that is on here as the high and mighty do no wrong person not me.



 ::)

High and mighty do no wrong person?

Guilty of synthol
Admit using steroids
...

Well, now when I think I can find what else I did wrong?

Called insecure people out to get the courage and come out and introduce themself?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 10:25:57 AM
Milos;  With the accident, the movie, getting burned and taking quiet a bit of time off from the stage.  When was the last time you competed?  This would be more of a comeback than anyone in recent history, if you haven't stepped on a stage since the 90's.  Good luck in whatever you chose to do.  You, unlike most of the other pros, have options.

I competed in 2001 and 2003 but in whole honesty - I just did half way preparations to be good enough to be on stage and not really to COMPETE with the best...

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 14, 2006, 12:04:36 PM
Really?

It is quite painfull to read all your nonsense...
You know what I like - yet you know nothing about me...

What I like is putting some big mouth like you (who wants to come out with "the news" about me) in position to back up what you claim...
It is understandable ::) that stand-up guy like you ::) would not want to say who is telling the stories about me taking the money and never returning back...After all in your world that is "ratting out"...



Well.....you wont say anything about John....but want people like me to tell you names of people talking shit about you.

If you haven't figured it out....it's called a contradiction   ::)

Look the word up in your Yugolasvia to American translation dictionary .

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 12:34:09 PM
1) Still hiding your real name and identity?
Did you ever wonder WHY?

2) As you know what you are talking about find me my posts where I sound all mighty telling people what to do (with exception what NOT to do /synthol issue/ which I made myself example of it)

3) After my leg accident I have NEVER PUT ANY KIND OF OIL into my biceps and calves. I don't need to answer your questions after you are not answering mine - but contrary to you I play fair...

4) Your continuous insults and accusations of steroid usage is getting old. I have used anabolic steroids for numerous years and I can definitely say I have been OFF more months than I would be ON in the last 15 years (since I turned professional). Again - you don't deserve even that information - but all mighty is confident enough to speak little bit about his private life. Can you do the same and tell us your name and YOUR steroid abuse?

Milos try to realize I have not insulted you nor accused you of anything. I am speaking the way it is.  Clearly you must know by now that I know more about you than the average magazine reader or gym rat.  You have spoken several times on other threads about having nothing to hide and now here have said no oil use after the accident. Ok fair enough.  I know you  enjoy a good game of chess so should I now you BS in check or checkmate?  Your move.


Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 14, 2006, 12:48:41 PM
Damn you almost seem like Milos himself but then again maybe you are simply just one of his well trained lap dogs.

So i guess i am one of those highly trained lap dogs????  ::) ::)!!

Man it males make laugh how you little insecure MORONS have such boring life's to sit here and type all this CRAP!!!!  For God Sake get a life!!!!
Trust me, if you want a fight, you have picked the wrong man!!  Milos has been there done that 1000 times over. So your comments are like water off a ducks back!!! Man this crap you are typing about synthol and steroids and how Milos did this and did that is so GOD DAMN OLD!!!! Milos has explained this a 1000 times and realistically doesn't have to tell you guys nothing, but being the true professional he is, Milos explains in fine detail exactly what happen and hoping people will learn from this.  Find a new line will you!!

As for "FOR REAL". Thankyou!!!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 01:11:22 PM
::)
...

Well, now when I think I can find what else I did wrong?



Milos i heard 8 months ago you were caught speeding on the freeway! How dare you!!! LOL

Luke, i am with you bro, some people REALLY need to get a life!!!

Much respect to Milos for putting the idiots in their place!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 01:13:28 PM
That is exactly what happened...


A scary experience I am sure!!! All of life can be taken as a learning experience, you learn from the good and the bad.. You are a very fortunate man to have made it out ok!!! We the true fans thank you for coming out in public and addressing those dangers!!!

I totally forgot about the FIRE accident... Milos do you have 9 lives like a cat or what?!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 14, 2006, 01:14:39 PM


Man it males make laugh how you little insecure MORONS

Little?

what draws up that conclusion?

Is it because bodybuilders are typically big & dumb....


so guys behind a computer that are smart have to be little?

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 14, 2006, 02:16:44 PM
Anaphylactic Shock is basically the most severe type of allergic reaction, Van-Bilderass.. You see it a lot in bee strings and peanut allergy for example..

I know what anaphylactic shock is. The reason I asked is because that site I mentioned pushes a Synthol type product. The owner of that site said Milos' problems had nothing to do with Synthol per se - they were due to shooting a dirty product (Esik-Clean). Also Milos' pic is on the banner of that site so I thought maybe the owner was correct and had info directly from Milos.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: AlliedPowers on October 14, 2006, 02:21:44 PM
Milos i heard 8 months ago you were caught speeding on the freeway! How dare you!!! LOL

Milos, how fast were you going?


Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 14, 2006, 02:31:31 PM
Milos, how fast were you going?




It wasn't him....who ever spread that nasty rumour is lying

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 07:34:24 PM
Milos try to realize I have not insulted you nor accused you of anything. I am speaking the way it is.  Clearly you must know by now that I know more about you than the average magazine reader or gym rat.  You have spoken several times on other threads about having nothing to hide and now here have said no oil use after the accident. Ok fair enough.  I know you  enjoy a good game of chess so should I now you BS in check or checkmate?  Your move.




#1) Still no name...(goes well with no testicles I guess..)

#2) You insulted me many times (read your posts) but I have very thick skin if you didn't realize that by now...

#3) Clearly you don't know anything about me more than average bodybuilding fan knows...Knowing that my daughter's name is ALEKSANDRA is known to just about everyone...

#4) You can check-mate me? Maybe if we play ping-ping...but than you have to come out of that hole you re hiding...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 07:36:24 PM
Well.....you wont say anything about John....but want people like me to tell you names of people talking shit about you.

If you haven't figured it out....it's called a contradiction   ::)

Look the word up in your Yugolasvia to American translation dictionary .

 ;D

I know what is contradiction - but AGAIN I see no sense in what you are saying...

You talking about me is comparable to me choosing not to comment about someone I have never met or know anything about it?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 07:44:36 PM
Milos, how fast were you going?




1999 I was speeding on 15 N  going to Vegas - for the Olympia press conference...
Cop told me that I was going 98 miles/hour and after he saw my licence - he told me that he is my fan...
Than he told me that he previously gave ticket to Shawn - who was also speeding...

Well - he let me go without ticket or warning... ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: FOR REAL on October 14, 2006, 07:52:27 PM
1999 I was speeding on 15 N  going to Vegas - for the Olympia press conference...
Cop told me that I was going 98 miles/hour and after he saw my licence - he told me that he is my fan...
Than he told me that he previously gave ticket to Shawn - who was also speeding...

Well - he let me go without ticket or warning... ;D

LOL!!

ps 98 MPH? Why not make it an even 100? Or was 98 after slamming on the breaks??
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 08:07:37 PM
#1) Still no name...(goes well with no testicles I guess..)

#2) You insulted me many times (read your posts) but I have very thick skin if you didn't realize that by now...

#3) Clearly you don't know anything about me more than average bodybuilding fan knows...Knowing that my daughter's name is ALEKSANDRA is known to just about everyone...

#4) You can check-mate me? Maybe if we play ping-ping...but than you have to come out of that hole you re hiding...


You are the one BS'ing around here now me. You ask me what your daughters name was plain and simple. Thats neither here nor there however. The real question as I asked already are you ready for check or checkmate?  Would you like me to post pictures of you and your skeltons? And if you do, do not try and make excuses that i am out to destroy you, your family or others around you when the entire board sees them.   I know you want know who I am but does it really matter? You have nothing to hide so why the concern of where the info may come from?

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 08:22:04 PM
LOL!!

ps 98 MPH? Why not make it an even 100? Or was 98 after slamming on the breaks??

You got it...It was well over 100...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 14, 2006, 08:32:27 PM

You are the one BS'ing around here now me. You ask me what your daughters name was plain and simple. Thats neither here nor there however. The real question as I asked already are you ready for check or checkmate?  Would you like me to post pictures of you and your skeletons? And if you do, do not try and make excuses that i am out to destroy you, your family or others around you when the entire board sees them.   I know you want know who I am but does it really matter? You have nothing to hide so why the concern of where the info may come from?



No name yet?

I never asked you what my daughter's name is - AGAIN you are confusing your "FACTS"

And please - GO AHEAD AND POST THE PICTURES of me and my skeletons...
Destroy me and my family? In your world maybe people get destroyed when wind blows...I am just a little bit tougher...

Do I want to know who you are?
Of course - I like to know who I am talking to - as otherwise it is NOT THE FAIR GAME...
But REAL MAN can play with scary cats even when disadvantaged...You are a "child's play" for me...

Didn't you realize how pathetic you really are?
I am communicating with you even though I have absolutely no reason...as I am just a better man.

When you grow up (or grow some testicles) maybe you could come up to me and tell me few things to my face?
That would be a day...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 08:39:35 PM
Ok Milos true to form and as always you can have the last word here, you feel better now?  But what is reallly scary is the fact that you would take others down with you just because of your inability to realize when you are wrong.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 14, 2006, 08:58:28 PM
Little?

what draws up that conclusion?

Is it because bodybuilders are typically big & dumb....


so guys behind a computer that are smart have to be little?

 ;D

Maybe big and dumb, but i am STILL A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE who does'nt hide behind his name!  Who said i am big and dumb?? I have a degree in RESPECT! it was'nt hard to obtain though, my Father made sure of that!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 14, 2006, 09:03:56 PM
Maybe big and dumb, but i am STILL A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE who does'nt hide behind his name!  Who said i am big and dumb?? I have a degree in RESPECT! it was'nt hard to obtain though, my Father made sure of that!


yes Luke...and you know when to chose your fights and open your mouth and when to let it go.  While your friend Milos trains your muscles maybe you can train his poor social impulses with the traits your Father taught you.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2006, 10:28:51 PM
After reading all these pages, there is but only one conclusion.

The only one with lacking social skills and poor social impulses is 1stkeepitfalse.

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 15, 2006, 02:45:39 AM
Ok Milos true to form and as always you can have the last word here, you feel better now?  But what is reallly scary is the fact that you would take others down with you just because of your inability to realize when you are wrong.

As always I feel great so I cannot feel any better.
That's just another desperate sign of someone's defeat when in absence of any answers you must conclude something like: OK...do youfeel better now?
Like I need to feel better for putting you in your place?

What is really scary is (OFF COURSE) - ANOTHER FACT (the only fact is that you have no idea what FACT really means...)...

#1) Who am I taking down with me and HOW?

#2) My inability to realize when I am wrong maybe comes from NOT BEING ABLE TO REALIZE THAT I AM WRONG WHEN I AM 100% RIGHT...Like it is the case here...off course.
Care to explain your continual nonsense?
Again - who am I taking down with me...and exactly what am I wrong about?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 15, 2006, 02:50:32 AM
After reading all these pages, there is but only one conclusion.

The only one with lacking social skills and poor social impulses is 1stkeepitfalse.



Well, when you live in the mouse hole and can't say your name it is kind of hard to be social...
Especially as you hate yourself for being inferior and trying to blame others for it...


Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 15, 2006, 04:08:30 AM
You just gave me great idea...
Hide is still here (doing photoshoot for "MD" today..."Ironman" yesterday..."Sushi times" on sunday...) so I will do the interview before he goes back to Japan.

I just wish some of you guys can see Hide train - to see what intensity is all about...
I am in shape as a side effect of preparing Hide for his shows...

Maybe you can tell us what Hide does for training & nutrition too in the interview like with Gustavo? Thank you Milos! :)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 15, 2006, 06:41:03 AM
HIDE EATS LIGHTNING AND CRAPS THUNDER!! ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 15, 2006, 07:07:40 AM
keepingitreal u are making yourself more disgraceful with every post. just put an end to it..u got no point ...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 09:48:38 AM
LOL!!

ps 98 MPH? Why not make it an even 100? Or was 98 after slamming on the breaks??

100 makes it more of a violation & higher $ ticket amount
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 09:50:48 AM
Maybe big and dumb, but i am STILL A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE who does'nt hide behind his name!  Who said i am big and dumb?? I have a degree in RESPECT! it was'nt hard to obtain though, my Father made sure of that!

& the 'dumb' genetics come from your.....mother?

The Marine Corps is my excuse....now that you pointed out yours....I can seen it's a genetic blue print & can't be changed.


Sorry....you're in worse shape than I thought.

 :-\
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 15, 2006, 09:54:05 AM
Maybe big and dumb, but i am STILL A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE who does'nt hide behind his name! 


No disrespect, your a great bodybuilder.....but please don't confuse professional BODYBUILDERS with professional ATHLETES, there's a difference!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 09:58:41 AM
I know what is contradiction - but AGAIN I see no sense in what you are saying...

You talking about me is comparable to me choosing not to comment about someone I have never met or know anything about it?

You want me to name those names. 

&

You see it justifyable not to mention stuff about John.



So....why is it not justifyable for me not to mention names?


But...it's justifyable for you not to say an hypothetical appraisal about John?

But...you want me to still mention names?




I figure if I keep talking in circles....it'll make more sense.

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 09:59:16 AM
No disrespect, your a great bodybuilder.....but please don't confuse professional BODYBUILDERS with professional ATHLETES, there's a difference!

His parents didn't teach him that either.

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 12:16:04 PM
Hey Milos how about a message board Q&A. I know you have so much bodybuilding knowledge up in that noggin of yours just waiting to be let out.

How about on this board or your board, you start a Q&A, and answer like 10 questions a week, any topic goes (since you are a no BS type of guy), give us fans just a taste of all of the shit that you have going on in your head.

Just an idea, but I think it will work, a way to give back.




He gets paid for that
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 15, 2006, 01:09:01 PM
kenny for how much shit u eat u better be something special....but i'm smelling turd....
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 01:54:20 PM
kenny for how much shit u eat u better be something special....but i'm smelling turd....

only people that thought I was special was my mom & the special olympics

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 15, 2006, 02:23:23 PM
His parents didn't teach him that either.

 ;D
u both are armchair qb's...weekend warriors or whatever u wanna call yourself...pathetic...ok, be pathetic but don't pass judgement unless u are in the same league
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 15, 2006, 02:25:39 PM
u both are armchair qb's...weekend warriors or whatever u wanna call yourself...pathetic...ok, be pathetic but don't pass judgement unless u are in the same league

I pass judgement on whoever I feel like....

DS   ;D


Now....get back on your knees my little bitch

 ;)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 15, 2006, 09:07:01 PM
u both are armchair qb's...weekend warriors or whatever u wanna call yourself...pathetic...ok, be pathetic but don't pass judgement unless u are in the same league

LOL.....K!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 16, 2006, 12:22:46 AM
all talk no walk makes kenny a dull girl...sorry ...boy. marine...lol...biatch please...that's your claim to fame?..lol
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 16, 2006, 12:24:56 AM
all talk no walk makes kenny a dull girl...sorry ...boy. marine...lol...biatch please...that's your claim to fame?..lol

Marinade...not a marine...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 16, 2006, 03:34:34 AM
No disrespect, your a great bodybuilder.....but please don't confuse professional BODYBUILDERS with professional ATHLETES, there's a difference!

Please explain to me as i am so DUMB!!!! why Professional bodybuilders are not Professional athletes????
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 16, 2006, 03:38:46 AM
His parents didn't teach him that either.

 ;D

My parents knew i had a dream of becoming a professional bodybuilder and fully supported me and still do to this day! thats what parents do! and i will do the same with my own children some day!

I am sure your parents would be so proud of you knowing your claim to fame is all the BS you talk on getbig!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 16, 2006, 03:45:43 AM
and i will do the same with my own children some day!
Serious question: if you had a daughter would you support her and encourage her if she wanted to become a professional bodybuilder?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 16, 2006, 09:05:35 AM
Please explain to me as i am so DUMB!!!! why Professional bodybuilders are not Professional athletes????

I didn't say you were dumb!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 16, 2006, 10:09:45 AM
Serious question: if you had a daughter would you support her and encourage her if she wanted to become a professional bodybuilder?

If that what she really wanted to do, yes i would support her. But education would be first and foremost.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Luke Wood on October 16, 2006, 10:11:11 AM
I didn't say you were dumb!

I opologise for that, but can you still expain why Professional bodybuilders are not Professional athletes??
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: tflexxin on October 16, 2006, 10:27:32 AM
& the 'dumb' genetics come from your.....mother?

The Marine Corps is my excuse....now that you pointed out yours....I can seen it's a genetic blue print & can't be changed.


Sorry....you're in worse shape than I thought.

 :-\
You're a pathetic excuse for a former Marine.  We don't admire those who hide behind a little computer screen and throw around insults.  Which is how I know you were not really in the Marine Corps at all.
BAN THIS LOSER.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 16, 2006, 03:07:38 PM
all talk no walk makes kenny a dull girl...sorry ...boy. marine...lol...biatch please...that's your claim to fame?..lol

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 16, 2006, 03:08:28 PM
Marinade...not a marine...

With a twist of lemon & dirty gear from Mishko

 ;)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 16, 2006, 03:09:14 PM
I didn't say you were dumb!

You don't have to

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 16, 2006, 03:09:58 PM
My parents knew i had a dream of becoming a professional bodybuilder and fully supported me and still do to this day! thats what parents do! and i will do the same with my own children some day!

I am sure your parents would be so proud of you knowing your claim to fame is all the BS you talk on getbig!

Damn....yuo know my parents?

You also must have one foot in the grave too!

 ;)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 16, 2006, 03:12:13 PM
You're a pathetic excuse for a former Marine.  We don't admire those who hide behind a little computer screen and throw around insults.  Which is how I know you were not really in the Marine Corps at all.
BAN THIS LOSER.

People like me....gave the word Marine to the Corps

 ;D


Do you think sane people actually join the Corps so they can get shot at?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: tflexxin on October 17, 2006, 08:33:48 AM
Gee, why would any sane person enlist and offer to defend their country.  Why.  Why would anyone hide behind a computer screen, throw insults at people they don't know, have never met, and insult our countries service men and women?
Again.   BAN THIS IDIOT.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 17, 2006, 08:58:50 AM
I opologise for that, but can you still expain why Professional bodybuilders are not Professional athletes??

Luke you are a smart guy but really what are you asking here?  Pro BB is no different than Pro wrestling really. Its all a club enjoyed by the cult of few and a place where the particpants are paid the least while management and promoters gets rich.

Outside of the pro bb building supplements, magazines and shows who receognizes pro BB building for anything other than a bunch of jacked up egotistic gorillas?

There are exceptions of course but they are few and far between. There are many more bad apples than good apples especailly when you factor in how many probb have died recently or burned out their organs.

geez you opened up a bag of worms.

-keep it real-
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 09:33:48 AM
Luke you are a smart guy but really what are you asking here?  Pro BB is no different than Pro wrestling really. Its all a club enjoyed by the cult of few and a place where the particpants are paid the least while management and promoters gets rich.

Outside of the pro bb building supplements, magazines and shows who receognizes pro BB building for anything other than a bunch of jacked up egotistic gorillas?

There are exceptions of course but they are few and far between. There are many more bad apples than good apples especailly when you factor in how many probb have died recently or burned out their organs.

geez you opened up a bag of worms.

-keep it real-


Should we look statistically each and every sport and see how many deaths we can find in sports in general?
Or how about OTHER occupations, other people...?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Man of Steel on October 17, 2006, 09:45:59 AM

Should we look statistically each and every sport and see how many deaths we can find in sports in general?
Or how about OTHER occupations, other people...?

Maybe you should examine the long and short-term health risks in general between competitive sports (bb included of course).   Or determine which competitive pro sport has the greatest potential/risk for death.   BB, MMA, Boxing, Football, Power/Weightlifting, Rugby all have the potential for death; although, in the case of BB it has the highest probability of death due to chemical enhancements.   Drugs are used in every sport I mentioned, but BB - more than likely - has the highest risk of death/long-term health issues due to drug use (despite similar deaths in other sports) than any other.   


Hey, I don't care how much drugs are taken by bbs....to each their own.   If I could change something within competitive bb I'd do away with the current standard of "posing trunks" and replace them with an actual pair of shorts. 
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 17, 2006, 09:51:17 AM

Should we look statistically each and every sport and see how many deaths we can find in sports in general?
Or how about OTHER occupations, other people...?

sure you should take charge of the investigation you have got all the knowledge all the contacts

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 17, 2006, 09:57:24 AM
keepit real are u an athlete?....amateur level at least?...just curious...because u sound to me like someone who never fulfilled his chilhood dreams...meaning...a wannabe who never got to be
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on October 17, 2006, 10:02:06 AM
keepit real are u an athlete?....amateur level at least?...just curious...because u sound to me like someone who never fulfilled his chilhood dreams...meaning...a wannabe who never got to be

So many of you do not truly understand how full of terd milos ireally s. I just keep it real by putting the info out there. If nobody wants consider it or believe it so be it this is the gossip and opinons board not the kiss milos ass board.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 17, 2006, 10:21:04 AM
Gee, why would any sane person enlist and offer to defend their country.  Why.  Why would anyone hide behind a computer screen, throw insults at people they don't know, have never met, and insult our countries service men and women?
Again.   BAN THIS IDIOT.

You've been a member since Aug 2006....damn...you really know this place   ::)



Obviously....you never been in the Corps & most likely never in the service.  Most ever guys/gals that I know in the service is a little borderline crazy & fun loving bastards.  We smile sleeping in the mud and we go on 20 mile humps for fun.  We give up everything you take for granted.  We ask nothing in return & never expect anyone to thank us.  We're just doing a job.

You think I'm an ass because I don't nut hug a Pro Bodybuilder & called him out on some stuff (a guy that has a run in with the DEA, injects oils subtances in his arms, & makes a living prescribing his advice). 
Ok....so I am an ass.  Sue me.   ;D

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 10:40:36 AM
Maybe you should examine the long and short-term health risks in general between competitive sports (bb included of course).   Or determine which competitive pro sport has the greatest potential/risk for death.   BB, MMA, Boxing, Football, Power/Weightlifting, Rugby all have the potential for death; although, in the case of BB it has the highest probability of death due to chemical enhancements.   Drugs are used in every sport I mentioned, but BB - more than likely - has the highest risk of death/long-term health issues due to drug use (despite similar deaths in other sports) than any other.   


Hey, I don't care how much drugs are taken by bbs....to each their own.   If I could change something within competitive bb I'd do away with the current standard of "posing trunks" and replace them with an actual pair of shorts. 

I challenge you and everyone else to show me that BB has highest mortality rate...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 10:43:15 AM
sure you should take charge of the investigation you have got all the knowledge all the contacts



Stupid is what stupid does...Hello stupid, please keep it real... ::)

Investigation was AGAINST ME - I am sure feds gave me their contacts...

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 10:45:23 AM
keepit real are u an athlete?....amateur level at least?...just curious...because u sound to me like someone who never fulfilled his chilhood dreams...meaning...a wannabe who never got to be

Really?

You mean wannabe who never got to be and never could be as what he wants to be is never going to be wannabe?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 17, 2006, 10:47:20 AM

Should we look statistically each and every sport and see how many deaths we can find in sports in general?
Or how about OTHER occupations, other people...?

It's really hard to find another sport that encourages taking mega-doses of AAS, GH and insuline. You can't compare other occupations either, every occupation has it's hazards, but most take safety precautions to prevent those hazards, getting blood panels every 3 months to justify taking those mega-doses or at least taking 2-3 times the theraputic amounts does not qualify as a safety precaution!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 10:50:15 AM
Gee, why would any sane person enlist and offer to defend their country.  Why.  Why would anyone hide behind a computer screen, throw insults at people they don't know, have never met, and insult our countries service men and women?
Again.   BAN THIS IDIOT.

You actually don't believe he is a Marine...Please...

Knny lives in his fantasy world and hears voices...So Cal is talking to him...remember?

Marine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 10:54:07 AM
It's really hard to find another sport that encourages taking mega-doses of AAS, GH and insuline. You can't compare other occupations either, every occupation has it's hazards, but most take safety precautions to prevent those hazards, getting blood panels every 3 months to justify taking those mega-doses or at least taking 2-3 times the theraputic amounts does not qualify as a safety precaution!

EVERY SPORT is EXTREME on the top level...
What makes you think that bodybuilders are the only ones taking mega-doses...And what makes you think that every bodybuilder take mega doses?
I know MANY that take very minimal (therapeutic dosage) and take LONG breaks in between...while doing their blood work on regular bases...

There is a myth...and some just want to believe what they want to believe...
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 17, 2006, 10:58:37 AM
EVERY SPORT is EXTREME on the top level...
What makes you think that bodybuilders are the only ones taking mega-doses...And what makes you think that every bodybuilder take mega doses?
I know MANY that take very minimal (therapeutic dosage) and take LONG breaks in between...while doing their blood work on regular bases...

There is a myth...and some just want to believe what they want to believe...


Name one other sport that doesn't regulate drug use and their players are walking around at 5'10" 270 ripped? And of course I know that athletes in other sports are taking gear but their industry isn't turning a blind eye to it!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 11:01:56 AM
Name one other sport that doesn't regulate drug use and their players are walking around at 5'10" 270 ripped? And of course I know that athletes in other sports are taking gear but their industry isn't turning a blind eye to it!

Again - only I have to answer direct questions...My questions are somehow ignored?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 17, 2006, 11:14:24 AM
actually..even tennis is full of clen, test and such and people get long time ban's...don't ask me why....and everyone uses something due to the nature of the sport and for injury rehab, strenght and such...i'm sure milos can confirm it
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 17, 2006, 12:10:17 PM
.And what makes you think that every bodybuilder take mega doses?

There is a myth...and some just want to believe what they want to believe...


I did not say every bodybuilder was on mega-doses, some more than others and some waaaay more than others and I do know the myth and realize that when a person reaches a certain level it does not take much to maintain.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 17, 2006, 12:12:57 PM
actually..even tennis is full of clen, test and such and people get long time ban's...don't ask me why....and everyone uses something due to the nature of the sport and for injury rehab, strenght and such...i'm sure milos can confirm it

Most guidlines in the sports industry where there is a ban on steriods for athletic enhancement usually includes steriods for rehab!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: tflexxin on October 17, 2006, 12:16:45 PM
You've been a member since Aug 2006....damn...you really know this place   ::)



Obviously....you never been in the Corps & most likely never in the service.  Most ever guys/gals that I know in the service is a little borderline crazy & fun loving bastards.  We smile sleeping in the mud and we go on 20 mile humps for fun.  We give up everything you take for granted.  We ask nothing in return & never expect anyone to thank us.  We're just doing a job.

You think I'm an ass because I don't nut hug a Pro Bodybuilder & called him out on some stuff (a guy that has a run in with the DEA, injects oils subtances in his arms, & makes a living prescribing his advice). 
Ok....so I am an ass.  Sue me.   ;D


At least you admit it.
And no ground-pounding 0311 ever called a 20 mile hump fun.
Why do you care what Milos does anyway, does it affect your life?  you are clearly only on the board for your own amusement, while some of us look to it for information and knowledge.  Say what you want about these "other" things in Milos's life (none of which I have any personal knowledge of), but he is one of the most knowledgeable trainers in the industry, and I have followed some of his workout advice that has led to gains for me.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: tflexxin on October 17, 2006, 12:19:55 PM
You actually don't believe he is a Marine...Please...

Knny lives in his fantasy world and hears voices...So Cal is talking to him...remember?

Marine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You're right.  I've wasted too many valuable keystrokes on this doofus!
Looking forward to seeing you on an IFBB stage again soon Milos!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 17, 2006, 03:08:05 PM
Again Milos you talk about your DRUG use you should be banned by the IFBB for breaking their Anti Drug RULES.So much talk of drugs is this the real Guru or just all Drugs?????.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Kwon on October 17, 2006, 03:37:00 PM
Again Milos you talk about your DRUG use you should be banned by the IFBB for breaking their Anti Drug RULES.So much talk of drugs is this the real Guru or just all Drugs?????.

Guru
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Man of Steel on October 17, 2006, 03:52:18 PM
I challenge you and everyone else to show me that BB has highest mortality rate...

I have no facts or figures to justify my beliefs.....I just have good ole common sense....the sport and rampant drug use has only been around for a few decades.   My position is based on the higher probability of death/diminished health due to drug use as compared to the same/similar drug use in other competitive sports.   Same idea as too much sun will damage your skin or kill you, too much hair dye/bleach will damage or kill your hair, too much fast food will diminish your health or kill you, too much smoking/alchol will diminish your health or kill you, too much illegal drug use will diminish your health or kill you.    Name another sport in which the competitors use more chemicals than bb.   Sure, you'll find a small population within each sport (3% let's say) that use the same volume of chemcals, but within the bb population it's 100% of the competitors.    I enjoy pro bb, but it's only an attainable goal if your willing to jeopardize your long-term health.....give it 20-30 more years and let's see what the stats tell us.  I'd guess that for every 5 bbs that live a long and fruitful life that there will be 500 that do not because of their mass drug use earlier in life.   Not a prediction I hope comes true, but "if you play with fire.....".
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 17, 2006, 04:00:30 PM
Agreed BB was or use to be for strength and health now and for some time it has been all about Drugs GH,insulin,AAS,and a world of other rubbish.If anyone thinks this is lies just look at Kevin lavrone and Tom Prince and Mike Morris and and and and and the list goes on and on so no just listen to the Guru it's not Drugs and they don't hurt your health.Why destroy a healthy body??.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Man of Steel on October 17, 2006, 04:09:43 PM
Agreed BB was or use to be for strength and health now and for some time it has been all about Drugs GH,insulin,AAS,and a world of other rubbish.If anyone thinks this is lies just look at Kevin lavrone and Tom Prince and Mike Morris and and and and and the list goes on and on so no just listen to the Guru it's not Drugs and they don't hurt your health.Why destroy a healthy body??.

Can't forget Andreas Munzer, Mike Francois, Momo Benaziza, Mad Mazz, Dennis Newman, Don Long, Don Youngblood, Paul Demayo and Sonny Schmidt (sorry Milos, I know he was a friend of yours).
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Man of Steel on October 17, 2006, 04:25:20 PM
hey stupid bitch. why are you following bodybuilding and who wins what when you hate drugs so much? get a life.

Who you talkin to gibber?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 17, 2006, 04:27:29 PM
Gibber = Meltdown. ::)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 17, 2006, 04:52:19 PM
I challenge you and everyone else to show me that BB has highest mortality rate...

By mortality do you mean actual deaths or serious career ending health issues?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 05:12:35 PM
Again Milos you talk about your DRUG use you should be banned by the IFBB for breaking their Anti Drug RULES.So much talk of drugs is this the real Guru or just all Drugs?????.

Forget about drugs Miss Karen. Do you like my white legs? 8)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 17, 2006, 05:17:25 PM
Do you like Synthol ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 05:18:06 PM
By mortality do you mean actual deaths or serious career ending health issues?

By mortality I mean mortality...You did mention deaths - didn't you?

Now - the same goes with serious career ending health issues.
Do we have MORE EX-BB competitors with much more serious health issues than OTHER ATHLETES?

Again - wrong way of thinking...

YES - there are the cases where health is compromised - but many other sports (or jobs for that matter) have the same/similar/worse health issues as well....
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 05:23:57 PM
Do you like Synthol ;D

Well, if you didn't read my latest post about synthol and still have no clue if I like it - I have a business proposition for you (as you are obviously a smart one... ;))

I have synthol plantation land on Mars I am willing to sell you for almost nothing (just few thousand bucks per square inch - read: for almost nothing...).

Now, in recent research study in University of Mars it is unequivocally found that synthol solves yeast infection almost immediately (after only ten year administration directly to the problem area...in your case - off course...no need to mention...)

Do we have a deal?

PS - honestly - who would you pick - me or Jay?

Did I say - you look great today (you lost weight and I almost didn't recognize you...)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: ali23 on October 17, 2006, 05:32:09 PM
Well, if you didn't read my latest post about synthol and still have no clue if I like it - I have a business proposition for you (as you are obviously a smart one... ;))

I have synthol plantation land on Mars I am willing to sell you for almost nothing (just few thousand bucks per square inch - read: for almost nothing...).

Now, in recent research study in University of Mars it is unequivocally found that synthol solves yeast infection almost immediately (after only ten year administration directly to the problem area...in your case - off course...no need to mention...)

Do we have a deal?

PS - honestly - who would you pick - me or Jay?

Did I say - you look great today (you lost weight and I almost didn't recognize you...)

you MILOS!!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 17, 2006, 05:32:54 PM
Make the same offer to Chris D he looks like he needs a little in the thighs.Good luck with your natural comeback.It's not like anyone here will post a bad pic of you once you hit the stage.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 05:57:42 PM
Make the same offer to Chris D he looks like he needs a little in the thighs.Good luck with your natural comeback.It's not like anyone here will post a bad pic of you once you hit the stage.

You didn't answer any of my questions :'( :'(

You like me ;D ;D or Jay :'( :'(
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 17, 2006, 06:13:15 PM
Both of you would fail any drug test now that is a fact.IFBB anti drug rules are a JOKE.So tell some of your rubbish to the fools that pay you.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: gibberj2 on October 17, 2006, 06:45:21 PM
of course they are rubbish and always been but why are you such a fan of a sport where all the physiques are drugs? how can you even give an opinion or judge who won when they all take steroids? go get another hobby. i told you that already.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 17, 2006, 07:15:24 PM
You actually don't believe he is a Marine...Please...

Knny lives in his fantasy world and hears voices...So Cal is talking to him...remember?

Marine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am glad that I served......


so it gave you the freedom to inject oil & sell drugs.


Anytime Mishko

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 17, 2006, 07:24:10 PM
At least you admit it.
And no ground-pounding 0311 ever called a 20 mile hump fun.

sorry....then you never served in the Corps

Until you wear an EGA....don't even bother. 


You do know what an EGA is?


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Why do you care what Milos does anyway, does it affect your life?  you are clearly only on the board for your own amusement,

duh....you're real smart   ::)  Did it take a lot of thought to come up with that?   Where the hell have you been?

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while some of us look to it for information and knowledge.

because you're the sort that needs to nut hug

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Say what you want about these "other" things in Milos's life (none of which I have any personal knowledge of), but he is one of the most knowledgeable trainers in the industry, and I have followed some of his workout advice that has led to gains for me.


I never said he wasn't knowledgeable in training, bodybuilding or AAS use.

Have you been following along DS?

Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 17, 2006, 07:36:46 PM
I am glad that I served......


so it gave you the freedom to inject oil & sell drugs.


Anytime Mishko

 ;D

You are crossing the line Knny...
Selling drugs is serious accusation - and for that I was investigated, scrutinized, judged and lost a lot of money - JUST TO PROVE MY INNOCENCE - which I did!

Now, one thing is joking (and I take jokes with no problem) but accusing me of selling drugs is something serious.
Our conversation is over.



Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 17, 2006, 08:35:21 PM
By mortality I mean mortality...You did mention deaths - didn't you?

Now - the same goes with serious career ending health issues.
Do we have MORE EX-BB competitors with much more serious health issues than OTHER ATHLETES?

Again - wrong way of thinking...

YES - there are the cases where health is compromised - but many other sports (or jobs for that matter) have the same/similar/worse health issues as well....

No, it wasn't me that mentioned deaths.

But in answer to "Do we have MORE EX-BB competitors with much more serious health issues than OTHER ATHLETES?"  The answer to that is irrelavant simply because you cannot compare bodybuilding to mainstream sports where they have actual clauses in their contracts that are usually null and void if an injury is caused by the use of illegal or banned substanances.
In professional sports, as you should know since you have trained professional athletes, most of their contracts are usually worded with the intention of a payout in case of either a career ending injury or death, but no one and I mean no one goes in with the intention of getting injured, they know the risks and so do their insurance companies.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 17, 2006, 10:08:57 PM
You are crossing the line Knny...
Selling drugs is serious accusation - and for that I was investigated, scrutinized, judged and lost a lot of money - JUST TO PROVE MY INNOCENCE - which I did!

Now, one thing is joking (and I take jokes with no problem) but accusing me of selling drugs is something serious.
Our conversation is over.






I am not accusing you.....


I read it in the paper.  You took a plea, slapped with a fine & was sent on probation.  If that makes you innocent...then you & I have a different interpretation of the law.


In the United States...it means guilty.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 18, 2006, 06:57:34 AM


I am not accusing you.....


I read it in the paper.  You took a plea, slapped with a fine & was sent on probation.  If that makes you innocent...then you & I have a different interpretation of the law.


In the United States...it means guilty.


Than read again and show me where it states that I was accused of DEALING DRUGS?
That is YOUR INTERPRETATION of "conspiracy to possess for personal use!"

Dealing (distributing) was NEVER IN QUESTION - as just like I never borrowed money from any of your "friends" I also have never ever sold a single unit of any kind of drugs...

There is the difference that only people like you (ex Marine ::)) can overlook...

Also - I was not sent on probation...What I got was "informal probation" - for which Federal gov. didn't even have any paperwork to fill.
Wonder why?
As they never have that kind of outcome of full blown investigation...

Probation officer was laughing in front of me and my lawyer (Rick Collins) telling us - "well, I don't even know what to say - we never had informal probation case in the history of this office. You are free to go...and never report to anyone... ;)"
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on October 18, 2006, 07:08:24 AM

Than read again and show me where it states that I was accused of DEALING DRUGS?
That is YOUR INTERPRETATION of "conspiracy to possess for personal use!"

Dealing (distributing) was NEVER IN QUESTION - as just like I never borrowed money from any of your "friends" I also have never ever sold a single unit of any kind of drugs...

There is the difference that only people like you (ex Marine ::)) can overlook...

Also - I was not sent on probation...What I got was "informal probation" - for which Federal gov. didn't even have any paperwork to fill.
Wonder why?
As they never have that kind of outcome of full blown investigation...

Probation officer was laughing in front of me and my lawyer (Rick Collins) telling us - "well, I don't even know what to say - we never had informal probation case in the history of this office. You are free to go...and never report to anyone... ;)"

So what you're saying is that your bodybuilding's answer to the Teflon Don.  Milos "Untouchable" Sarcev.  They should make a movie about your life.  Getbiggers should fear you!
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 18, 2006, 08:07:06 AM
So what you're saying is that your bodybuilding's answer to the Teflon Don.  Milos "Untouchable" Sarcev.  They should make a movie about your life.  Getbiggers should fear you!

Interesting choice of words.
"Untouchable" is exactly what Shawn used when he rushed to my gym after he had little "chat" with the agents (in his house ::)) to tell me:
Agent told me that you think you are "untouchable" and "above the law"...but he said you are looking for a loooooooooooooooooooong time!
(Off course Shawn was happy to tell me the news...)

My response was: "Really? For eating too much protein? I don't think so..."

The rest is history. ;)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on October 18, 2006, 08:13:28 AM
Interesting choice of words.
"Untouchable" is exactly what Shawn used when he rushed to my gym after he had little "chat" with the agents (in his house ::)) to tell me:
Agent told me that you think you are "untouchable" and "above the law"...but he said you are looking for a loooooooooooooooooooong time!
(Off course Shawn was happy to tell me the news...)

My response was: "Really? For eating too much protein? I don't think so..."

The rest is history. ;)

Oh I get it,the oath of silence... very godfatherish.  Excellent!  Do you think Shawn will be "sleeping with the fishes" in the near future?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 18, 2006, 08:56:45 AM

Than read again and show me where it states that I was accused of DEALING DRUGS?
That is YOUR INTERPRETATION of "conspiracy to possess for personal use!"

Dealing (distributing) was NEVER IN QUESTION - as just like I never borrowed money from any of your "friends" I also have never ever sold a single unit of any kind of drugs...

There is the difference that only people like you (ex Marine ::)) can overlook...

Also - I was not sent on probation...What I got was "informal probation" - for which Federal gov. didn't even have any paperwork to fill.
Wonder why?
As they never have that kind of outcome of full blown investigation...

Probation officer was laughing in front of me and my lawyer (Rick Collins) telling us - "well, I don't even know what to say - we never had informal probation case in the history of this office. You are free to go...and never report to anyone... ;)"

I never herad of an innocent man/woman given a fine & probabtion

you must be the first in American History

 ::)

Is the gear making you delusional?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 18, 2006, 03:42:47 PM
Milos if that E-mail that the DEA used against you was all so innocent why not Post it and let all see how innocent it was.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: leycus 101 on October 18, 2006, 03:51:20 PM
I never herad of an innocent man/woman given a fine & probabtion

you must be the first in American History

 ::)

Is the gear making you delusional?






come on bro shut the f*ck up already....
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 19, 2006, 08:47:07 AM





come on bro shut the f*ck up already....

it's tough when I'm right.


I have a few friends that are correctional officers.....


& they say everyone thats in prison always insist they are innocent.

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: leycus 101 on October 19, 2006, 10:15:26 AM
it's tough when I'm right.


I have a few friends that are correctional officers.....


& they say everyone thats in prison always insist they are innocent.

 ;D
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EXACTLY... THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN JAIL AND SAYING THAT SHIT... MILOS ISNT IN JAIL ... THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN JAIL CUZ THEIR GUILTY.. ONCE AGAIN MILOS ISNT IN JAIL... YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT AND MILOS RIGHT NOW..
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 19, 2006, 10:18:50 AM

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EXACTLY... THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN JAIL AND SAYING THAT SHIT... MILOS ISNT IN JAIL ... THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN JAIL CUZ THEIR GUILTY.. ONCE AGAIN MILOS ISNT IN JAIL... YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT AND MILOS RIGHT NOW..


Not everyone that's guilty of a crime...goes to jail.  ::)

They get fined...released on probation, community service....

Hey...that sounds like Milos
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: VIENIO on October 19, 2006, 11:21:18 AM
This is so sad and pathetic, Knny187 and Milos, you guys are so obsessed with eachother. Milos I became a fan after watching your "the fit show" episodes and Im still a fan but seriously, who is this Knny that you are investing so much time in.  Both of you let it go, you can't win with eachother.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 19, 2006, 12:15:29 PM
This is so sad and pathetic, Knny187 and Milos, you guys are so obsessed with eachother. Milos I became a fan after watching your "the fit show" episodes and Im still a fan but seriously, who is this Knny that you are investing so much time in.  Both of you let it go, you can't win with eachother.

If you don't know me....that makes you a noob

 ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: VIENIO on October 19, 2006, 04:22:28 PM
If you don't know me....that makes you a noob

 ;D

thanks
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 19, 2006, 04:34:46 PM
thanks

welcome
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: muscleforlife on October 19, 2006, 05:57:30 PM
I never herad of an innocent man/woman given a fine & probabtion

you must be the first in American History

 ::)

Is the gear making you delusional?

I think the Duke LaCrosse team may be able to help you with an understanding of guilty until proven innocent.

In the USA in recent years, innocent people have been released from prison after serving years.

Our Government at work.

Sandra
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 19, 2006, 06:46:31 PM
I think the Duke LaCrosse team may be able to help you with an understanding of guilty until proven innocent.

In the USA in recent years, innocent people have been released from prison after serving years.

Our Government at work.

Sandra

Well...they take people like Milos....make him believe he's innocent....then fine him & place him on probation.


Wonder what they do when he's really guilty?

 ::)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 19, 2006, 07:21:13 PM
Well...they take people like Milos....make him believe he's innocent....then fine him & place him on probation.


Wonder what they do when he's really guilty?

 ::)

LOL, stop mouthing off to the adults Toonces... ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 20, 2006, 04:45:11 PM
Milos set to start Promoting Pro shows and put back into the sport that has made him Rich.Congratulations Milos it is way over due.Will you have good Judges?????.Will it be before or after Shawns Colorado show and will your prize money be more than Shawns?????.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 20, 2006, 05:47:21 PM
LOL, stop mouthing off to the adults Toonces... ;D

hop in....let me give you a ride
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 20, 2006, 05:52:09 PM
hop in....let me give you a ride

What do u drive?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 20, 2006, 05:59:19 PM
What do u drive?

I don't....toonces does
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 20, 2006, 06:35:38 PM
I don't....toonces does

You are Toonces you littler bitch! ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: knny187 on October 20, 2006, 06:43:03 PM
You are Toonces you littler bitch! ;D

what?
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 21, 2006, 04:55:21 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 21, 2006, 07:23:42 PM
what?

I said you are Toonces, you dumb lil' pussy! ;D
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 21, 2006, 08:35:26 PM
Milos set to start Promoting Pro shows and put back into the sport that has made him Rich.Congratulations Milos it is way over due.Will you have good Judges?????.Will it be before or after Shawns Colorado show and will your prize money be more than Shawns?????.

Shawn's show 3d most in IFBB Pro League.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 21, 2006, 11:47:46 PM
Milos says it's not Shawns Money $$$$$ well I wonder who makes money from the show at least the IFBB Pros get a little extra than other shows like Grand Prix 20k over 5places.Now that is said.All that health Risk for a couple of thousand.Very low IQ in Pro BB.
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: Miss Karen on October 22, 2006, 06:47:13 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Romanian GP: Where was Milos?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 22, 2006, 07:17:06 PM
As long as drug use is rampant in IFBB, the prize fund should remain low for the BBers' wellbeing and health, otherwise the drug war will only escalate if pirize fund increases...