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Ive never been a coleman fan but no way cutler stacks up against a prime coleman or yates.
in fact how can a guy with a 40+ inch waist and some of the ugliest looking abs ever be the champ?
ronnie may have the roid gut, but cutler has the roid waist.
in fact ruhl shold have beaten cutler in europe for that matter
if cutler is the direction of bodybuilding , bodybuilding is turning for the worst as usual
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I wouldnt say the worst or the best. Cutler had the potential to dethrone Ron in 2001. But his training is his weakness. Cutler is one of the sloppiest pros in the gym Ive ever seen. Sloppy form results in no detail, inadequate muscle stimualtion and thick waists.. Cutler has all three.
Wish he could train with Dorian learn to really control the weight "stretch and squeeze" rather than throwing the weights. Watch him from the side as he's doing barbell curls in New Improved and Beyond.. Is that proper form, fark NO!
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Cutler didn't face prime Ronnie he beat a less than prime Ronnie but he still beat Ronnie.
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He is better than what Ronny Coleman have become to be...
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Wish he could train with Dorian learn to really control the weight "stretch and squeeze" rather than throwing the weights. Watch him from the side as he's doing barbell curls in New Improved and Beyond.. Is that proper form, fark NO!
ROFL
Have you seen Colemans "proper" form. On T-Bar rows this guy throws the barbell like he wants to hit a bird in the sky with it, same goes for lat. raises, just for everything, just ridicolous.... ::)
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cutler is def worst mr olympia in a long long time..but bodybuilding competitions dont matter, as i know guys with better physiques than cutler at my gym who weigh 50-70lbs less than cutler.
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maybe you shold
ROFL
Have you seen Colemans "proper" form. On T-Bar rows this guy throws the barbell like he wants to hit a bird in the sky with it, same goes for lat. raises, just for everything, just ridicolous.... ::)
maybe you should offer the 8 time mr. olympia a free training session to correct his form?
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see this speaks volumes, no one ever said this about Ronnie when he 1st won.. Now that Jay won people realize that hmmm maybe he is not so great :-\ Don't get me wrong he has a great physique ;)
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see this speaks volumes, no one ever said this about Ronnie when he 1st won.. Now that Jay won people realize that hmmm maybe he is not so great :-\ Don't get me wrong he has a great physique ;)
You kidding me? Ronnie was very lucky to win in 1998 , lucky Flex was off and lucky they didn't pick Flex just based on the assumption he was the heir apparent .
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Cutler didn't face prime Ronnie he beat a less than prime Ronnie but he still beat Ronnie.
Good point.
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I whole-heartedly agree.
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I wouldnt say the worst or the best. Cutler had the potential to dethrone Ron in 2001. But his training is his weakness. Cutler is one of the sloppiest pros in the gym Ive ever seen. Sloppy form results in no detail, inadequate muscle stimualtion and thick waists.. Cutler has all three.
Wish he could train with Dorian learn to really control the weight "stretch and squeeze" rather than throwing the weights. Watch him from the side as he's doing barbell curls in New Improved and Beyond.. Is that proper form, fark NO!
The main problem with your theory is that Dorian also had no detail, no separation, and a thick waist.
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umm..dorian had lots of seperation and detail compared to cutler..and he had a better structure and vascularity than cutler...
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The main problem with your theory is that Dorian also had no detail, no separation, and a thick waist.
agreed
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Ive never been a coleman fan but no way cutler stacks up against a prime coleman or yates.
in fact how can a guy with a 40+ inch waist and some of the ugliest looking abs ever be the champ?
ronnie may have the roid gut, but cutler has the roid waist.
in fact ruhl shold have beaten cutler in europe for that matter
if cutler is the direction of bodybuilding , bodybuilding is turning for the worst as usual
Ruhl has no glute / ham tie ins and less detail in the back. He is also slightly bow legged. No way does he deserve to beat Cutler.
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umm..dorian had lots of seperation and detail compared to cutler..and he had a better structure and vascularity than cutler...
agreed
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You kidding me? Ronnie was very lucky to win in 1998 , lucky Flex was off and lucky they didn't pick Flex just based on the assumption he was the heir apparent .
You beat me to it. There was even more talk then of the Ronnie/Flex battle...
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agreed
Pigs arse. Are you blind.. Compare Yates ab/thigh to Jays, his waist doesnt look big there.. when he relaxed is a different story. Compare the back detail of jay to dorian
Who gives a rats arse what Ronnies training is like, cos I dont. What matters is what you look like on stage and Jays flaws can only be put down to his training, using genetics as the reason is just an excuse. Everyone does the best with what they have.. and Jay didnt (even if he's Mr O)
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NO. Dorian Yates 94-97 is the worst Mr O ever.
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NO. Dorian Yates 94-97 is the worst Mr O ever.
Dorian 1995 this is the worse? lol
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If Ronnie won the 2006 Olympia, then he IS the worst winner in 40 years
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Bodybuilding has shown a decline in physiques for the past 6-7 yrs, so would it only be right that we have a sub-standard Mr. O?
Who will set us on the correct path?
Stay tuned for our next episode...called "The Gift"
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You kidding me? Ronnie was very lucky to win in 1998 , lucky Flex was off and lucky they didn't pick Flex just based on the assumption he was the heir apparent .
Flex got nothing on Ronnie,check Ronnie 98/99,the years that Flex suposedly beat/tie him.And compare them to ANY Flex showings and he will get owned on everything.
Ronnie had GREAT shape,MAD cuts and LOTS of mass.Not to mention a WAY bigger back than Flex ever had.
Oh...and he didnt have Synthol & calves implants.
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Flex got nothing on Ronnie,check Ronnie 98/99,the years that Flex suposedly beat/tie him.And compare them to ANY Flex showings and he will get owned on everything.
Ronnie had GREAT shape,MAD cuts and LOTS of mass.Not to mention a WAY bigger back than Flex ever had.
Oh...and he didnt have Synthol & calves implants.
Flex's 97 and 98 Arnold appearances. The Flex from the 1998 Arnold have beat the 98 Ronnie. I hate to admit that, because I think the 98 Flex was too heavy, but that is what "they" were looking for...
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You can't hate on this...
Ronnie dominates.
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You can't hate on this...
Ronnie dominates.
Shame its the other way around these days :'(
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NO. Dorian Yates 94-97 is the worst Mr O ever.
Right. And by far...
He's the inventor of the GH gut, which ruined BBing.
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Jay Cutler the worst Mr. Olympia in 20 years? Naaaah.... That goes to Dorian Yates. :-X
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Flex's 97 and 98 Arnold appearances. The Flex from the 1998 Arnold have beat the 98 Ronnie. I hate to admit that, because I think the 98 Flex was too heavy, but that is what "they" were looking for...
No way,Coleman was alot bigger and had a much better back+ no synthol and shit.
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Dorian 1995 this is the worse? lol
yes. the end.
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Im sure ROnnie will come back bigger and freakier next year. Just like how Gunter beat Ronnie, Gunter for some reason looked better just that day, and Cutler was on a streak (1 week streak). From what i see, Ronnie was bigger, he just didn't lock it down the way he used to. But hey, Congrats to Jay for his wins this year. I'm sure next year will be alot of excitment... eveyrone thought it was gonna be another Ronnie victory.
Peace,
Air
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Shame its the other way around these days :'(
absolutely correct
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Ive never been a coleman fan but no way cutler stacks up against a prime coleman or yates.
in fact how can a guy with a 40+ inch waist and some of the ugliest looking abs ever be the champ?
ronnie may have the roid gut, but cutler has the roid waist.
in fact ruhl shold have beaten cutler in europe for that matter
if cutler is the direction of bodybuilding , bodybuilding is turning for the worst as usual
THIS SI ALL BULLSHIT BLIND MAN...JUST GET OUUTA HERE...jay is by far the greatest mr olympia ever.after 22yr layoff he beat a reigning mr olympia fair and square..no offence to big ron but jay beat him fair and square.so keep in weining about this fact that jay deserved the olympia or..the truth is.....
JAY CUTLER BEATS RONNIE COLEMAN....JAY IS MR OLYMPIA 2006...HAHAHA KEEP LOOKING PEOPLE CUZ I KNOW TRUTH HURTS
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No a doubt Jay Cutler the worst Mr O in 20 years.
His fans say Jay's parted travelled the farthest, miller time, bullshit and that's why his 70 % of his best.
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And everyone there agrees 100 % Coleman will beat everytime 100% Cutler.
Jay's waist was ever thicker/wider from the front. The refrigerator in the true sense of the word.
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THIS SI ALL BULLSHIT BLIND MAN...JUST GET OUUTA HERE...jay is by far the greatest mr olympia ever.after 22yr layoff he beat a reigning mr olympia fair and square..no offence to big ron but jay beat him fair and square.so keep in weining about this fact that jay deserved the olympia or..the truth is.....
Let's face it. Jay Cutler's physique sucks. Having a refridgerator as Mr. Olympia is plain wrong.
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Let's face it. Jay Cutler's physique sucks. Having a refridgerator as Mr. Olympia is plain wrong.
but he is mr olympia and a deserving one...just keep weining ok
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but he is mr olympia and a deserving one...just keep weining ok
No one is or should be talking about whether or not he won in 2006. The question was is Cutler the worst Mr. Olympia in 20 years? The thread title kinda gives this way mate.
And the answer is an obvious yes.
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Let's face it. Jay Cutler's physique sucks. Having a refridgerator as Mr. Olympia is plain wrong.
Very true, Ronnie never gives an impression of a refrigerator standing before you as he's not built like that, where in the opposite Jay Cutler looks well you know like what.
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cutler is def worst Mr Olympia in a long long time..but bodybuilding competitions don't matter, as i know guys with better physiques than cutler at my gym who weigh 50-70lbs less than cutler.
oh really where did they place at the Olympia???
good grief what a gay statement!
ta ta
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Guys, let's face it:
Cutler looks like shit.
Coleman looks like shit.
Yates looked like shit.
Bodybuilding has gone a long way from the days when aesthetic bodies were the winning ones. .
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Yates did not look like shit
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Yates did not look like shit
Yates was one ugly mofo.
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Try worse Mr O of alltime. ;D
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No one is or should be talking about whether or not he won in 2006. The question was is Cutler the worst Mr. Olympia in 20 years? The thread title kinda gives this way mate.
And the answer is an obvious yes.
well your view sucks...cutler by far is the best mr olympia ever..dude people like you are double minded..if ronnie had won this years mr olympia you would have said ronnie coleman is the worst mr olympia all time winning with torn muscles such as torn lat,tricep and busted left quad..then you would have said this was the biggest gift in bodybuilding..then at the same time you would have said jay was robbed and jay had better back and better conditioning..then guys like you would have made a million threads bashing ronnie that he was given a gift this year and he is the worst mr olympia of all..then guys like you would have made threads of jay as being the uncrowned mr olympia and then you all would have said hows jay looked so much better than ronnie and still lost.it would have been the same as 2001 olympia was.all that contraversy...plzzzzzzzz z guys get real..jay won mr olympia fair and square and you cannot deny this..people like you make me SIIIIIIIIIIICK >:( >:( >:(
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well your view sucks...cutler by far is the best mr olympia ever..dude people like you are double minded..if ronnie had won this years mr olympia you would have said ronnie coleman is the worst mr olympia all time winning with torn muscles such as torn lat,tricep and busted left quad..then you would have said this was the biggest gift in bodybuilding..then at the same time you would have said jay was robbed and jay had better back and better conditioning..then guys like you would have made a million threads bashing ronnie that he was given a gift this year and he is the worst mr olympia of all..then guys like you would have made threads of jay as being the uncrowned mr olympia and then you all would have said hows jay looked so much better than ronnie and still lost.it would have been the same as 2001 olympia was.all that contraversy...plzzzzzzzz z guys get real..jay won mr olympia fair and square and you cannot deny this..people like you make me SIIIIIIIIIIICK >:( >:( >:(
Hahahaha.
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Try worse Mr O of alltime. ;D
YESSSS!!
Cutler is the worst ever. I try for life of me to have an open mind, but I just don't see what's so special about him. He's just a big stocky white dude all blown up on steroids. Mr. Olympia should have an unnattainable, out of this world physique. Anyone with halfway decent genetics can look like Cutler.
I just can't imagine that someone with as thick waisted and wide hipped as Cutler can be named Mr Olympia. It's a joke and I officially refuse to acknowledge Jay Cutler as Mr Olympia. He should be impeached.
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well your view sucks...cutler by far is the best mr olympia ever..dude people like you are double minded..if ronnie had won this years mr olympia you would have said ronnie coleman is the worst mr olympia all time winning with torn muscles such as torn lat,tricep and busted left quad..then you would have said this was the biggest gift in bodybuilding..then at the same time you would have said jay was robbed and jay had better back and better conditioning..then guys like you would have made a million threads bashing ronnie that he was given a gift this year and he is the worst mr olympia of all..then guys like you would have made threads of jay as being the uncrowned mr olympia and then you all would have said hows jay looked so much better than ronnie and still lost.it would have been the same as 2001 olympia was.all that contraversy...plzzzzzzzz z guys get real..jay won mr olympia fair and square and you cannot deny this..people like you make me SIIIIIIIIIIICK >:( >:( >:(
I knew I'd drag that insane reply out of you lol
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well your view sucks...cutler by far is the best mr olympia ever..dude people like you are double minded..if ronnie had won this years mr olympia you would have said ronnie coleman is the worst mr olympia all time winning with torn muscles such as torn lat,tricep and busted left quad..then you would have said this was the biggest gift in bodybuilding..then at the same time you would have said jay was robbed and jay had better back and better conditioning..then guys like you would have made a million threads bashing ronnie that he was given a gift this year and he is the worst mr olympia of all..then guys like you would have made threads of jay as being the uncrowned mr olympia and then you all would have said hows jay looked so much better than ronnie and still lost.it would have been the same as 2001 olympia was.all that contraversy...plzzzzzzzz z guys get real..jay won mr olympia fair and square and you cannot deny this..people like you make me SIIIIIIIIIIICK >:( >:( >:(
Jay has wider waist than Ronnie, he is shorter, more blocky and stocky than Ronnie Coleman offseason. Why are you that happy about Jays win? On the Grand Prix circuit Ronnie with some unknown russian guy beat Jay fair n square. What a champion. You certainly fall under one of these categories.
1. You still harbor "secret fantasy" stemming from the blonde
counselor who "massaged" your penis in summer camp 20 years
ago.
2. You grew up on a farm, and still have a fondness for horses
with long faces.
3. Although wearing that old Klan outfit in the back of your
closet is no longer "politically correct", rooting for the
white guy is still okay.
4. Watching a genetic mortal like Jay win the Olympia provides
your deluded mind with the thought that "Hey, if I just took
the right cycle, I could look like that."
5. Because your own arms barely break the 15-inch mark, you
don't really consider them a "key bodypart" in comparisons.
6. Deep down, when you go to the gym and see black dudes
who've been training 4 months and already dwarf you despite
your ten years of training, you think to yourself, "I'm
Cutler, and they're all Colemans!"
7. You root for the Chicago Cubs.
8. Despite having molested your nephew on occasion, you feel a
kinship with Jay Cutler as a "fellow family man".
9. You still think the fight between Gerry Cooney and Larry
Holmes was stopped too soon.
10. You're Bob Cicherillo and the last time you got stood up
like that was at the 1979 Rochester Junior High School Prom.
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I just don't see what's so special about him. He's just a big stocky white dude all blown up on steroids.
Me too
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No way,Coleman was alot bigger and had a much better back+ no synthol and shit.
In 99, that was when Flex went desperate, and started with that shit, 98 I believe he was still anti-Syn, and I believe he didn't know what it was back in 97-98, Remember the only pro to have that at that time was Ernie Taylor. Ronnie was a lot bigger, but as ND said, it was almost a toss up between Flex and Ronnie in 98. Flex had the shape, the lines, Ronnie came in unbelieveablly shredded, and still had shape, he was also as confident as ever.
Actually both were what a Mr. O, should be, but Flex couldn't get any bigger (which is the trend for MR. O's), but Ronnie could, so I believe Ronnie made the better Mr. O.
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There is no such word as 'weining'.
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I was not a huge fan of the Ronnie of recent years or Dorian once his injuries and gut started to ruin him but to me Jay as Mr. O is worse. His waist/abs is/are pathetic. To me, bodybuilding is about adding mass all over while maintaining a waist close to what you were born with (in shape). Obviously you will put on some size there but noone with a waist that big should ever be Mr. O. It simply says who gives a crap about your huge waist or gut if you simply put more size on your back/delts it doesn't matter. That leads to alot of the crazy synthetic use of the Ruhls, Branchs, etc.
BTW Jay would kill for that midesction of Dorian's from the 1995 pic!
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Jay didn't even deserve the Arnold wins over Chris Cormier, but he got them. It seem that when one wins the Olympias when the champ is not at his best, tends not to be the best of the field, only the luckiest.
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Ive never been a coleman fan but no way cutler stacks up against a prime coleman or yates.
in fact how can a guy with a 40+ inch waist and some of the ugliest looking abs ever be the champ?
ronnie may have the roid gut, but cutler has the roid waist.
in fact ruhl shold have beaten cutler in europe for that matter
if cutler is the direction of bodybuilding , bodybuilding is turning for the worst as usual
up until now Coleman had the ugliest looking abs ever.
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I have better arms than Jay Cutler, and he's mr. Olympia?
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YESSSS!!
Cutler is the worst ever. I try for life of me to have an open mind, but I just don't see what's so special about him. He's just a big stocky white dude all blown up on steroids. Mr. Olympia should have an unnattainable, out of this world physique. Anyone with halfway decent genetics can look like Cutler.
I just can't imagine that someone with as thick waisted and wide hipped as Cutler can be named Mr Olympia. It's a joke and I officially refuse to acknowledge Jay Cutler as Mr Olympia. He should be impeached.
great thread.
i could not agree more. i have said this jay started competing. HE DOES NOT HAVE A PHYSIQUE WORTHY OF A MR. OLYMPIA. i will ask the same question: what about jay cutler is soooo great??
worst mr.o of all time...........i'll agree with that.
i started a similar thread on another board a short time ago and got the crap beat out of me because i was telling the truth about jay and they didn't like it.
thanks guys for having an open debate and letting us voice our opinion.
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Jay has wider waist than Ronnie, he is shorter, more blocky and stocky than Ronnie Coleman offseason. Why are you that happy about Jays win? On the Grand Prix circuit Ronnie with some unknown russian guy beat Jay fair n square. What a champion. You certainly fall under one of these categories.
1. You still harbor "secret fantasy" stemming from the blonde
counselor who "massaged" your penis in summer camp 20 years
ago.
2. You grew up on a farm, and still have a fondness for horses
with long faces.
3. Although wearing that old Klan outfit in the back of your
closet is no longer "politically correct", rooting for the
white guy is still okay.
4. Watching a genetic mortal like Jay win the Olympia provides
your deluded mind with the thought that "Hey, if I just took
the right cycle, I could look like that."
5. Because your own arms barely break the 15-inch mark, you
don't really consider them a "key bodypart" in comparisons.
6. Deep down, when you go to the gym and see black dudes
who've been training 4 months and already dwarf you despite
your ten years of training, you think to yourself, "I'm
Cutler, and they're all Colemans!"
7. You root for the Chicago Cubs.
8. Despite having molested your nephew on occasion, you feel a
kinship with Jay Cutler as a "fellow family man".
9. You still think the fight between Gerry Cooney and Larry
Holmes was stopped too soon.
10. You're Bob Cicherillo and the last time you got stood up
like that was at the 1979 Rochester Junior High School Prom.
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I have better arms than Jay Cutler, and he's mr. Olympia?
jays arms are 22 and half inches contest shape....you must be having 12 and half inch arms contest shape..stop behaving like a 12 and half year old kid....maybe you rae a 12and half year old kid after all...BIATICH
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Guys, let's face it:
Cutler looks like shit.
Coleman looks like shit.
Yates looked like shit.
Bodybuilding has gone a long way from the days when aesthetic bodies were the winning ones. .
YOUR THE BIGGEST SHITFACE IN THE WORLD...nuff said
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That picture is so ugly in my judgement. What is Ronnie trying to prove by showing the judges and the audience how hard and how muscular his glutes appear to be.
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jays arms are 22 and half inches contest shape....you must be having 12 and half inch arms contest shape..stop behaving like a 12 and half year old kid....maybe you rae a 12and half year old kid after all...BIATICH
Jay's arms aren't anywhere near 22.5 in contest shape. Put down the FLEX magazine.
My arms are 19.5" NATTY with vastly superior shape. You are a cock.
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Jay's arms aren't anywhere near 22.5 in contest shape. Put down the FLEX magazine.
My arms are 19.5" NATTY with vastly superior shape. You are a cock.
why don't you do the olympia next year prove your point
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why don't you do the olympia next year prove your point
My point is I'd rather have my arms than Cutlers, they look better. And if I took half of what he did they'd be bigger too.
My OVERALL point was the fact that I (or anyone) can even approach his arm development is ludicrous, the guy is Mr O, he should be from another planet....like ronnie was.
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My point is I'd rather have my arms than Cutlers, they look better. And if I took half of what he did they'd be bigger too.
My OVERALL point was the fact that I (or anyone) can even approach his arm development is ludicrous, the guy is Mr O, he should be from another planet....like ronnie was.
there aren't too many guys like Jay walking around
i agree with you about Ronnie, hard to see that kind of dominance again
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The IFBB wanted a poster white boy to be champion again is all it is....Did Jay beat Ron at the Olympia?? Yes, but he beat an aged and going downhill Ron...Wait for the next dominant pro to come right up and take the thrown from Jay...Jay is not that difficult of a Pro to beat with his genetics....
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Jay's arms aren't anywhere near 22.5 in contest shape. Put down the FLEX magazine.
My arms are 19.5" NATTY with vastly superior shape. You are a cock.
Agree if Jays arm were 22.5 his head would have at least been 27 inches in circumference lol.
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The IFBB wanted a poster white boy to be champion again is all it is....Did Jay beat Ron at the Olympia?? Yes, but he beat an aged and going downhill Ron...Wait for the next dominant pro to come right up and take the thrown from Jay...Jay is not that difficult of a Pro to beat with his genetics....
Yep, they love poster white boys as champions...Look at guys like Haney and Yates!!
Nothing says "we want a poster white boy" more than having Cutler place second 4 times prior to his win.
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Jay's arms aren't anywhere near 22.5 in contest shape. Put down the FLEX magazine.
My arms are 19.5" NATTY with vastly superior shape. You are a cock.
Ok...... ::)
I not a big Jay fan by any mean...but this is a seriously retarded statement.
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Ok...... ::)
I not a big Jay fan by any mean...but this is a seriously retarded statement.
Do you doubt my stats negro ?
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Yep, they love poster white boys as champions...Look at guys like Haney and Yates!!
Nothing says "we want a poster white boy" more than having Cutler place second 4 times prior to his win.
Also, look at all the hype they gave Gunter and Chris Cook....At least Gunter could bring it to the table...Chris was a joke, but the IFBB still hyped him to hell and back....LoL...Haney and Yates were both true champions with very strong work ethics they fit the mold of what a champion was even if they were not marketable...Ronnie fit that mold also...We will see how long Jay will last compared to true champions of the past....By the way, I am not against Jay, I just know he better appreciate the Crown while he has it...Because there are better structured pros coming up.....
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Also, look at all the hype they gave Gunter and Chris Cook....At least Gunter could bring it to the table...Chris was a joke, but the IFBB still hyped him to hell and back....LoL...Haney and Yates were both true champions with very strong work ethics they fit the mold of what a champion was even if they were not marketable...Ronnie fit that mold also...We will see how long Jay will last compared to true champions of the past....By the way, I am not against Jay, I just know he better appreciate the Crown while he has it...Because there are better structured pros coming up.....
Bodybuilding magazines have always given top amateurs lots of pub (Craig Titus, Dennis Newman, Paul DeMayo). Was color a factor? Consider that when Toney Freeman won the Nationals in 2002, I don't think he made a single cover.
It took Gunter a while to bring it to the table. He's been a pro since '93 but his breakout year didn't come until nearly a decade later.
Some pros come out and take the IFBB by storm (Kevin Levrone, Flex Wheeler, Mike Francois, Phil Heath). Others need a while to get it going. It took pros like Lee Priest and Darrem Charles a decade just to win their first pro show. Cook has only been a pro for 2 years. To me, he has the tools. A bit more time and patience and he'll be in there.
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Also, look at all the hype they gave Gunter and Chris Cook....At least Gunter could bring it to the table...Chris was a joke, but the IFBB still hyped him to hell and back....LoL...Haney and Yates were both true champions with very strong work ethics they fit the mold of what a champion was even if they were not marketable...Ronnie fit that mold also...We will see how long Jay will last compared to true champions of the past....By the way, I am not against Jay, I just know he better appreciate the Crown while he has it...Because there are better structured pros coming up.....
Victor Martinez for one....He looks waaay better than Cutler who looks like a refrigerator in my opinion.
Crowning Victor would have meant the sport was at least TRYING to go in a different direction and regain credibility. With Jay's win it was just like Well he came in 2nd four times...it's his turn.
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aaaahhh, here we go again, jay's haters (ok let's find everything wrong about jay)
Get over it already, he won case close! too bad ronnie didn't win 9 in a row, he didn't made history, like everybody want to (and that's probably why everybody is so mad)... '' jay's look like a fridge, lolllll, i guess nobody saw ronnie's mid section, it's as big as jay...
Of course he's not the best mr. olympia, but not the worst!
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I dont care who win Mr.O.
But I really dont want Boring BBer like Cutler or Chris Cormier to win this title.
Mr.O should be dramatic person like Kevin,Flex,Ronnie or Dorian.
Cutler and Chris do have nice physic. But,my eye didnt pop out looking at their physic.
But,Kevin,Flex,Ronnie or Dorian.they really made my eyes poping out!!
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Do you doubt my stats negro ?
1.Negro? Are you a fucking cracker?
2.I think I saw a pic of your FAT ass.
3.You live in a fantasy world.
4.You have no idea what contest shape means.
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I dont care who win Mr.O.
But I really dont want Boring BBer like Cutler or Chris Cormier to win this title.
Mr.O should be dramatic person like Kevin,Flex,Ronnie or Dorian.
Cutler and Chris do have nice physic. But,my eye didnt pop out looking at their physic.
But,Kevin,Flex,Ronnie or Dorian.they really made my eyes poping out!!
it does not matter your eyes didn't pop when jay beat legendary ronnie coleman..the fact is jay cutler is our new mr olympia and woulda.shoulda,coulda is all bullshit..no offence to you man nor to the guys you have mentioned
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Jay's arms aren't anywhere near 22.5 in contest shape. Put down the FLEX magazine.
My arms are 19.5" NATTY with vastly superior shape. You are a cock.
you should be given the award of getbig.coms most retarded guy ever..heres a proof from jays website that list his arms being 22.5 contest shape or not..they are fuckin 22.5 inches
http://jaycutler.com/sub/biography.htm
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you should be given the award of getbig.coms most retarded guy ever..heres a proof from jays website that list his arms being 22.5 contest shape or not..they are fuckin 22.5 inches
http://jaycutler.com/sub/biography.htm
hahaha, you call it 'proof' because Jay wrote it on his website?? hahahaa
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Jay's arms aren't anywhere near 22.5 in contest shape. Put down the FLEX magazine.
My arms are 19.5" NATTY with vastly superior shape. You are a cock.
dude your just a guy who wants to boast alot when the in reality you rae just like a lil bitch..heres the evidence wich proves that jays arm are well over 22inches
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you should be given the award of getbig.coms most retarded guy ever..heres a proof from jays website that list his arms being 22.5 contest shape or not..they are fuckin 22.5 inches
http://jaycutler.com/sub/biography.htm
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if Jay's arms are "well over 22 inches" what does that make Ronnie's arms?
(http://www.flexonline.com/mro/pre_men_bb/images/FDBE0652.jpg)
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if Jay's arms are "well over 22 inches" what does that make Ronnie's arms?
(http://www.flexonline.com/mro/pre_men_bb/images/FDBE0652.jpg)
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small ;D
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you should be given the award of getbig.coms most retarded guy ever..heres a proof from jays website that list his arms being 22.5 contest shape or not..they are fuckin 22.5 inches
http://jaycutler.com/sub/biography.htm
hahahahahahahahahaha what a fucking totem pole!!!! That site also says he's got a 34 inch waist too. You are officially Getbig's most gullible retard, congratulations.
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You can't hate on this...
Ronnie dominates.
cutler bad waist then look at the picture of ronnies waist. and no cutler isnt a bad champ he owned ronnie on the back :) stop hating people Cutler is the camp so deal with it
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cutler bad waist then look at the picture of ronnies waist. and no cutler isnt a bad champ he owned ronnie on the back :) stop hating people Cutler is the camp so deal with it
agreed the man has payed his dues and had also been robbed a time or two
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Another Cutler arm shot.
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Another Cutler arm shot.
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franco in 1981 takes it... he beat waller fair and square in 76 though
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yes- he is def a charity mr.o :'(
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ND, are your starting to fall in love with Jay?
dorian (the other blocky, overrated Mr. O) is going to be pissed! :P:-*
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ND, are your starting to fall in love with Jay?
dorian (the other blocky, overrated Mr. O) is going to be pissed! :P:-*
Jay's not what I would consider Mr Olympia material , but he deserved to beat Coleman 2006 , and he made history in the progress.
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1.Negro? Are you a fucking cracker?
2.I think I saw a pic of your FAT ass.
3.You live in a fantasy world.
4.You have no idea what contest shape means.
groink dwarfs you
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what is wrong with the inside of Jay Cutler's left bicep? It looks like a huge ass scar.
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what is wrong with the inside of Jay Cutler's left bicep? It looks like a huge ass scar.
um dude those are veins !!!!!!!
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Jay will do MUCH more for the industry than Ronnie could only dream of doing.
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what is wrong with the inside of Jay Cutler's left bicep? It looks like a huge ass scar.
I dont know but he sure dont look as good as THIS GUY!!!!!!
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um dude those are veins !!!!!!!
It looks like a giant chunk of skin was torn away and formed a scar.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/JayCutlerLeftBicep1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/JayCutlerLeftBicep2.jpg)
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groink dwarfs you
Thanks R.B.
It's good to see the Squad still has my back.
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I dont know but he sure dont look as good as THIS GUY!!!!!!
Give me a break son!!! You don't want to go there.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYatesSmallArms.jpg)
(http://www.allaboutfrogs.org/info/doctor/bloat1.jpg)
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Jay will do MUCH more for the industry than Ronnie could only dream of doing.
In what way? He will not garner more mainstream publicity. His win wasn't even mentioned in the press. What is he going to do that is so radically different.
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Well I'm sure he will do better than running on a beach in flip flops looking like a fool on Leno.
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I'll put it this way:
Of all of the Mr. O's EVER, Cutler's physique is the one I would pick LAST if I had to choose one to have myself. His waist is HUGE! Biggest waist EVER for a Mr. O...I can't think of anyone even close.
The bottom-line is that Levrone, Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler ALL looked better than this guy in their prime...all 3.
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You can only compare Ronnie to Jay and Jay to Ronnie.
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I think Jay Cutler is a very good and well deserved Mr O. All you guys can complain about is his waist. He won for a reason. He was the best in the contest. Ronnie's shape is begining to look very distorted and worn out. Cutler looks awesome, his back and legs are fantastic, he comes in shredded, and he is marketable to the mainstream. He has plans for increased media attention and we can only sit back and wait to see what happens.
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Cutler looked better in 99 than in 2006. No joke. Check the videos.
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Cutler looked better in 99 than in 2006. No joke. Check the videos.
So didnt every other bodybuilder.... Look at Ronnie in 98 ::)
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I have better arms than Jay Cutler, and he's mr. Olympia?
Sure you do. ::)
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Cutler looked better in 99 than in 2006. No joke. Check the videos.
Yeah I too wanted to say it. It's a joke. IF Jays arms 22.5 his head 25 inches in circumference.
Jay Cutler the worst Mr O ever. He's not brought anything new to bb. Look at his 34 waist, 22.5 arms, and 25 head.
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It looks like a giant chunk of skin was torn away and formed a scar.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/JayCutlerLeftBicep1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/JayCutlerLeftBicep2.jpg)
man some of you guys seem to be mentally handicapped when you guys make these retarded comments...nuff said
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man some of you guys seem to be mentally handicapped when you guys make these retarded comments...nuff said
I wasn't even criticizing Jay you dipshit. I was just asking what's wrong with his left bicep. How is this retarded?
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I wasn't even criticizing Jay you dipshit. I was just asking what's wrong with his left bicep. How is this retarded?
the fact is theres nothing wrong with jays arms..the fact is his arms are 22.5inches...got it!!!
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the fact is theres nothing wrong with jays arms..the fact is his arms are 22.5inches...got it!!!
I'm not talking about the size of his arms. I'm referring to the scar on the inside of his left bicep.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/JayCutlerLeftBicep1a.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/JayCutlerLeftBicep2a.jpg)
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I don't know if it is a scar or just the way his inner bicep looks, but it was already there back in 2001.
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Looks very suspicious!
Has a Mr. Olympia ever had such flaws in his physique?
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Jay did what he had to do to beat Ronnie. The judges dictated the look that Jay had to conform to. If Jay would have kept his waist the exact same size as it was in 2001 and just got more detailed he would have never beat Ronnie, no matter what shape Ron came in at. I prefer Jays old look but-even though he's not what I like to seee in a mr. O-I undersstand why Jay looks how he looks. I'm sure he'd prefer to be walking around at 245 but he did what he had to do, it's a shame that the sport has changed so much, small wasit? Bah! It does not matter on the O stage, you just have to look like a little more ripped version of Jabba the Hut and you got a good shot at the O otherwise Ronny Rockel would be top 10 instead of tied for last. It's just a damn shame.
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Looks very suspicious!
Has a Mr. Olympia ever had such flaws in his physique?
It's not suspicious, it's just striations on the edge of the biceps.
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Jay did what he had to do to beat Ronnie. The judges dictated the look that Jay had to conform to. If Jay would have kept his waist the exact same size as it was in 2001 and just got more detailed he would have never beat Ronnie, no matter what shape Ron came in at. I prefer Jays old look but-even though he's not what I like to seee in a mr. O-I undersstand why Jay looks how he looks. I'm sure he'd prefer to be walking around at 245 but he did what he had to do, it's a shame that the sport has changed so much, small wasit? Bah! It does not matter on the O stage, you just have to look like a little more ripped version of Jabba the Hut and you got a good shot at the O otherwise Ronny Rockel would be top 10 instead of tied for last. It's just a damn shame.
Exactly. I lost any real interest in the Olympia years ago.
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enough of the BS.......dex beat'm both ;D
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It's not suspicious, it's just striations on the edge of the biceps.
Yeah I got the same and many other that I seen have them too.
The real suspicious thing is why he dont have them (or even a sign of them) on the other arm.
He is totaly unsymetrical,arms,quads,funky delts,non flexing arms and no seperation on any bodypart (beside quads and calves).
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Haha this coming from the Ronnie fan. Ronnie has no seperation in his entire lower body. Jay has a wide waist. But it is flat and crisp. Ronnie had/has a distended gut,no leg detail, torn quad/lat/tri, no tris in general, no calves, bad condition. Not to mention his back was not as good as Jays. He was also out of shape. You could not even see the tear drops in his quads at the O. Ronnie was off and Jay beat him fair and square.
Keep talking shit. Did you see my 5 qoutes from 5 of the most respected IFBB pros calling Jay the clear winner?They where there and all think Ronnie is the greatest Mr O ever. Hell Ron was there and said the same.Only people talking shit are the babys that are upset Ronnie lost.
Wambulance?
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Yeah I got the same and many other that I seen have them too.
The real suspicious thing is why he dont have them (or even a sign of them) on the other arm.
He is totaly unsymetrical,arms,quads,funky delts,non flexing arms and no seperation on any bodypart (beside quads and calves).
He does have the same thing on the other arm, just not as much. Same with me, I show more of it on my left bicep than my right.
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So didnt every other bodybuilder.... Look at Ronnie in 98 ::)
My point is, when you win the olympia you should look your best (Ronnie 98, Dorian 92/93). Cutler looked so much better in 99 simply becuase he had a smaller waist. It made everything look dramatically better. The only change I could tell from 99 -> 2006 was size. No change in detail or anything.
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My point is, when you win the olympia you should look your best (Ronnie 98, Dorian 92/93). Cutler looked so much better in 99 simply becuase he had a smaller waist. It made everything look dramatically better. The only change I could tell from 99 -> 2006 was size. No change in detail or anything.
Gotcha. I think the added weight may have put and inch or two on his midsection. But his back is much larger imo. Then I look at these pics and I do not know if it is that or he is the same...
Check it out. The first is from 01. Second from 06.
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You have to decide, do you want quality (99, 00, 01) or quantity (06)? Personally, I prefer quality over more size with a bigger waist. That's also why I prefer Ronnie in 98 over 2003.
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I think Jay was also way to dark this year. I have said it over and over. The 1998 Ronnie was the best "Bodybuilding" physique ever.
Imo this is the best physique ever.
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I think Jay was also way to dark this year. i have said it over and over. The 1998 Ronnie was the best Bodybuilding physique ever.
Imo this is the best physique ever.
not much of a back . . . if you're gonna go with a lighter guy, might as well go w Bannout.
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not much of a back . . . if you're gonna go with a lighter guy, might as well go w Bannout.
Samir looked great also. I think Serge has the best physique ever(everyday look). But in terms of bodybuilding he has no back and legs.
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I think Jay was also way to dark this year. I have said it over and over. The 1998 Ronnie was the best "Bodybuilding" physique ever.
Imo this is the best physique ever.
Flex beats out Segre handily imo. He has far superior overall shape.
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Flex beats out Segre handily imo. He has far superior overall shape.
Yes by far flex was a better bodybuilder. But I would personally never want to look like flex. His head looked tiny on his body. I would want to look like Serge. But that is my peronsal opinon of course.
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Ive never been a coleman fan but no way cutler stacks up against a prime coleman or yates.
in fact how can a guy with a 40+ inch waist and some of the ugliest looking abs ever be the champ?
ronnie may have the roid gut, but cutler has the roid waist.
in fact ruhl shold have beaten cutler in europe for that matter
if cutler is the direction of bodybuilding , bodybuilding is turning for the worst as usual
cutlers abs are better then ronnies fyi
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Not to mention there is no such thing as a roid waist. There is a distended stomach/gut due to insulin and gh ::) His waist is wide genetically. Like Gunter. Also like Arnold.
Cutler may have a wide waist but it is 10 times flatter and less distended than Ronnie's.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101569.0;attach=110542;image)
can ronnie even spell vacuum?
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team goodbum coming at that ass in the 07 bitch!!!!!!!!
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Goodbum rocks bro.