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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bailey on October 19, 2006, 06:01:12 PM
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Anyone have any pics of this awesome bodybuilder of the 90's.
If i'm not mistaken he had a pretty complete physique, with awesome wheels. Can't find any pics.
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Anyone have any pics of this awesome bodybuilder of the 90's.
If i'm not mistaken he had a pretty complete physique, with awesome wheels. Can't find any pics.
Actually it wasn't so much his physique as the grainy hardness he had the year he turned pro.
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The two I did find. Great shape/ with great wheels and calves.
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OK yeah, wait. Let me restate that. ;D Yeah he looks good there, so maybe I forgot a little about how awesome his shape was but I think what made me say that in the above post was that after his rookie year he never came in really hard again, and 5-10 pounds softer than that he looked about 50% as impressive as he did winning the Nationals that year. I've got the Flex here that featured his leg training right after that I think.
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I have the '92 Nationals on videotape. When I have time I'll upload his routine to Youtube.
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Unbelievable physique!
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The 12th Annual John Sherman Bodybuilding Classic will be held on October 28, 2006 in Houston, Texas @ the Reliant Arena(Event hall E). The is the last National Qualifier of the year in Texas. This years featured guest posers will be 8 time Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, 2 time Ms. International and 3 time Ms.Olympia, Iris Kyle, Soon to be Mr. Olympia, Branch Warren, and 2 time Ms. Olympia(Fitness) Adela Garcia.
This has been the largest contest in the state for the past few years, and competition is always very fierce. This should be another great production.
Get your Tickets and Information for the show @ Great Earth Vitamins, 713.975.7094. Hope to see you there
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Actually it wasn't so much his physique as the grainy hardness he had the year he turned pro.
Extract foot from mouth. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. :-[
OK yeah, wait. Let me restate that. ;D Yeah he looks good there, so maybe I forgot a little about how awesome his shape was but I think what made me say that in the above post was that after his rookie year he never came in really hard again, and 5-10 pounds softer than that he looked about 50% as impressive as he did winning the Nationals that year. I've got the Flex here that featured his leg training right after that I think.
Too late. You're credibility is gone. :'(
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Unbelievable physique!
Thanks!!
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Extract foot from mouth. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. :-[
Too late. You're credibility is gone. :'(
You have sex with men!
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Now fast forward 10 years and look at him here at the 2002 Southwestern Pro. Not nearly as fresh/crisp/responsive. That last .5% means so much. Some people blame it on the drugs not working as well, others attribute it to his not having dieted as hard. I'm guessing it would be a case of both. That's something to look at. Most people on their best runs will be running the best everything. Diet, "supps," everything. When you get on one of those runs I'd think the process would just feed itself. One thing leads to the next thing leads to the other and back around again. Positive feedback loop, not negative. He was probably lifting more weights, eating more food, and getting leaner by the day leading all the way up to that Nationals run. That's how a physique looks when you do it that way. It's why Levrone's physique was always so fresh every time out.
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Thanks!!
You deserve respect for a physique of that caliber!
Feel free to post more pics!
(http://www.musclememory.com/images/current/ShermanJohn.jpg)
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The 12th Annual John Sherman Bodybuilding Classic will be held on October 28, 2006 in Houston, Texas @ the Reliant Arena(Event hall E). The is the last National Qualifier of the year in Texas. This years featured guest posers will be 8 time Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, 2 time Ms. International and 3 time Ms.Olympia, Iris Kyle, Soon to be Mr. Olympia, Branch Warren, and 2 time Ms. Olympia(Fitness) Adela Garcia.
This has been the largest contest in the state for the past few years, and competition is always very fierce. This should be another great production.
Get your Tickets and Information for the show @ Great Earth Vitamins, 713.975.7094. Hope to see you there
John, welcome to getbig.
regards to your claim about Branch Warren... you've gotta be joking? not in a full month of sundays will Branch be crowned Mr O.
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John. Can you grace us with some pictures, as they are hard to find. I'm sure you have plenty. Post as many as you like. Awesome Physique.
" Do you still train ? "
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Jeff Mc. I see what you are saying. Great shape though, with that tiny waist. Just what the judges are supposed to be rewarding today.
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Jeff Mc. I see what you are saying. Great shape though, with that tiny waist. Just what the judges are supposed to be rewarding today.
I agree.. great phydique that wasn't appreciated in his day.
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Extract foot from mouth. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. :-[
Too late. You're credibility is gone. :'(
Yeah I know...I jumped the gun on that one. :(
;D
Now let's see what he says about his prep...I could potentially be 0 for 2 here. ;D
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Now fast forward 10 years and look at him here at the 2002 Southwestern Pro. Not nearly as fresh/crisp/responsive. That last .5% means so much. Some people blame it on the drugs not working as well, others attribute it to his not having dieted as hard. I'm guessing it would be a case of both. That's something to look at. Most people on their best runs will be running the best everything. Diet, "supps," everything. When you get on one of those runs I'd think the process would just feed itself. One thing leads to the next thing leads to the other and back around again. Positive feedback loop, not negative. He was probably lifting more weights, eating more food, and getting leaner by the day leading all the way up to that Nationals run. That's how a physique looks when you do it that way. It's why Levrone's physique was always so fresh every time out.
Great theory, but, that wasn't it......Food poisoining was the culprit that day. Had withdraw from that show. Your theory does make sense though.
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John. Any back pics ? If I'm not mistaken you were very complete.
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john why did you stop competing?
the rumor i heard was that you had some personal problems and had stopped training for a while.
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John. Can you grace us with some pictures, as they are hard to find. I'm sure you have plenty. Post as many as you like. Awesome Physique.
" Do you still train ? "
Yes, still training just as hard as before. Contemplating getting back out there since the look that I brought to the table is now being appreciated
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What does your waist/stomach measure at contest time John? Looks tiny.
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John. What did your Leg training consist of ?
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John, welcome to getbig.
regards to your claim about Branch Warren... you've gotta be joking? not in a full month of sundays will Branch be crowned Mr O.
Man, you guys on this board are so quick to jump ship. He just got 2nd at the Arnold. Branch had an off day at the Olympia. You have to take into account that he is still fairly young. Once he gets it together, he will be more than a force to be dealt with. I could be wrong
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Man, you guys on this board are so quick to jump ship. He just got 2nd at the Arnold. Branch had an off day at the Olympia. You have to take into account that he is still fairly young. Once he gets it together, he will be more than a force to be dealt with. I could be wrong
nothin personal against Branch.. its all about aesthetics.
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Great theory, but, that wasn't it......Food poisoining was the culprit that day. Had withdraw from that show. Your theory does make sense though.
Man that food poisoning can either make you or break you, can't it? Rumor also has it that Stan "Curly Top" McCrary won the North Americans just based on the fact that he caught food poisoning in the last few days BEFORE the show and he shit and puked himself into an unbelievably dehydrated but super-sharp shape. A shape he was to never recapture after turning pro.
Was there anything extraordinary about your prep for '92 Nationals that you could share with us? I wanna know what it felt like to have a run like that one. Did it suck the whole time or was it in a strange way really enjoyable somehow? I asked Cormier the other day how it felt the year he turned pro and he said, "there was just one goal/one dream...to turn IFBB Pro."
Hey look it's John in the least embarassing workout outfit to be found in this picture, just over Cormier's right shoulder! ;D
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I'd take Johns physique over Branches any day.Looks allot more healthy.
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i think branch could be top 3- 5 olympia if he improves his back and really nails his conditoning.
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Man that food poisoning can either make you or break you, can't it? Rumor also has it that Stan "Curly Top" McCrary won the North Americans just based on the fact that he caught food poisoning in the last few days BEFORE the show and he shit and puked himself into an unbelievably dehydrated but super-sharp shape. A shape he was to never recapture after turning pro.
Was there anything extraordinary about your prep for '92 Nationals that you could share with us? I wanna know what it felt like to have a run like that one. Did it suck the whole time or was it in a strange way really enjoyable somehow? I asked Cormier the other day how it felt the year he turned pro and he said, "there was just one goal/one dream...to turn IFBB Pro."
Didnt Branch claim the same type of thing happened before the 06 Arnold..(career best condition)?
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saw john last year at the show hes still thick as hell and still looks like a pro. hes got sick forearms!
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nothin personal against Branch.. its all about aesthetics.
Umm Jay is about as asthetically pleasing to the eye as Branch..
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Thanks!!
you were one of the guys i looked up to when i started traing thanks for the motivation
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Umm Jay is about as asthetically pleasing to the eye as Branch..
I disagree.. Cutler's shoulder width puts him ahead of Branch.
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I disagree.. Cutler's shoulder width puts him ahead of Branch.
Ok but Branch has a smaller waist.
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Ok but Branch has a smaller waist.
He probably does.. its about the differential (between shoulder and waist) not the actual measurement ;)
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Man that food poisoning can either make you or break you, can't it? Rumor also has it that Stan "Curly Top" McCrary won the North Americans just based on the fact that he caught food poisoning in the last few days BEFORE the show and he shit and puked himself into an unbelievably dehydrated but super-sharp shape. A shape he was to never recapture after turning pro.
Was there anything extraordinary about your prep for '92 Nationals that you could share with us? I wanna know what it felt like to have a run like that one. Did it suck the whole time or was it in a strange way really enjoyable somehow? I asked Cormier the other day how it felt the year he turned pro and he said, "there was just one goal/one dream...to turn IFBB Pro."
Hey look it's John in the least embarassing workout outfit to be found in this picture, just over Cormier's right shoulder! ;D
Funny, but true
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If I recall correctly, in that old "John Sherman Tank Tread" leg training article of yours, it said you'd go up to 550 for 12 on the squat. Is that about right, John? I mean, that's all you've really gotta say to explain how you got those quads to look like that. HEAVY WEIGHT FOR HIGH REPS. It sounds like an impossibility but not in the squat. Your shit was DENSE at Nationals, John.
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Branch looks like garbage now. He looked good as an amateur. Now he looks like a guinea pig for Pfizer.
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Man that food poisoning can either make you or break you, can't it? Rumor also has it that Stan "Curly Top" McCrary won the North Americans just based on the fact that he caught food poisoning in the last few days BEFORE the show and he shit and puked himself into an unbelievably dehydrated but super-sharp shape. A shape he was to never recapture after turning pro.
Was there anything extraordinary about your prep for '92 Nationals that you could share with us? I wanna know what it felt like to have a run like that one. Did it suck the whole time or was it in a strange way really enjoyable somehow? I asked Cormier the other day how it felt the year he turned pro and he said, "there was just one goal/one dream...to turn IFBB Pro."
Hey look it's John in the least embarassing workout outfit to be found in this picture, just over Cormier's right shoulder! ;D
Wow thats John? Cool! Hey John do you have any gym stories incolving those depicted in the pic?
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Branch looks like garbage now. He looked good as an amateur. Now he looks like a guinea pig for Pfizer.
branchs legs were way ahead of his upper body as an amateur.
he improved his upper body alot but still needs to get more width.
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branchs legs were way ahead of his upper body as an amateur.
he improved his upper body alot but still needs to get more width.
he looks puffy and red everywhere. His waist has gotten bigger.
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If I recall correctly, in that old "John Sherman Tank Tread" leg training article of yours, it said you'd go up to 550 for 12 on the squat. Is that about right, John? I mean, that's all you've really gotta say to explain how you got those quads to look like that. HEAVY WEIGHT FOR HIGH REPS. It sounds like an impossibility but not in the squat. Your shit was DENSE at Nationals, John.
Yep, the article is true. Still train the same way today. It really wouldn't take much to get back in contest shape, never really that far off anyway.
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john why did you stop competing?
the rumor i heard was that you had some personal problems and had stopped training for a while.
A few personal issues prevented me from competition, but, I never stopped training.
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Found a few more.
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5..
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Freshly uploaded to YouTube, John Sherman at the '92 Nationals:
;D
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Thnks Rammer.
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Yep, the article is true. Still train the same way today. It really wouldn't take much to get back in contest shape, never really that far off anyway.
Well let's examine it from this perspective. If you can squat 550 for 12 you are a certified bad-ass. End of story. You can only look so bad if you squat 550 for 12, and you know he isn't talking half-reps. I think this is key here. I also remember that in Levrone's very first leg training article (the one that accompanied this picture here) they said his squat routine before his rookie-year NOC win looked like this:
135x20
225x20
315x20
405x20
495 (500)x15-20
585 (or let's just say 600) x12-15
I remember that the only damn thing that convincing me that Kevin might could do that was seeing his wheels at the time. Otherwise it was just inconceivable.
And let's also examine just how far from 550 x five or six 550 x 12 really is. That's night and day. 12 reps means that your first 8 look relatively textbook. If you're claiming you can do it for 5 or 6, it means that one time at the gym on a dare you chalked up with your belt about to crush you and your face was blue and it was a fight or flight mechanism that got you through the first 3. The next 2 or 3 were just by virtue of your being numb from the shock of feeling that sort of weight at the bottom of the first couple.
Man I'm gettin' fired up over here... ;D
Man you guys keep thinking "supps" just makes training easier. Some things NEVER GET EASIER and this perfectly illustrates that point. The more you can do the farther into that zone you can go, and the deeper you go the deeper you wanna go...
"We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been..."
--Tool, "Lateralus"
Ha ha ha oh brother where's my Valeo belt oh brother epic example of beasthood oh my
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The 12th Annual John Sherman Bodybuilding Classic will be held on October 28, 2006 in Houston, Texas @ the Reliant Arena(Event hall E). The is the last National Qualifier of the year in Texas. This years featured guest posers will be 8 time Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, 2 time Ms. International and 3 time Ms.Olympia, Iris Kyle, Soon to be Mr. Olympia, Branch Warren, and 2 time Ms. Olympia(Fitness) Adela Garcia.
This has been the largest contest in the state for the past few years, and competition is always very fierce. This should be another great production.
Get your Tickets and Information for the show @ Great Earth Vitamins, 713.975.7094. Hope to see you there
you put on a great show john i go every year ,see you there
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Well let's examine it from this perspective. If you can squat 550 for 12 you are a certified bad-ass. End of story. You can only look so bad if you squat 550 for 12, and you know he isn't talking half-reps. I think this is key here. I also remember that in Levrone's very first leg training article (the one that accompanied this picture here) they said his squat routine before his rookie-year NOC win looked like this:
135x20
225x20
315x20
405x20
495 (500)x15-20
585 (or let's just say 600) x12-15
I remember that the only damn thing that convincing me that Kevin might could do that was seeing his wheels at the time. Otherwise it was just inconceivable.
And let's also examine just how far from 550 x five or six 550 x 12 really is. That's night and day. 12 reps means that your first 8 look relatively textbook. If you're claiming you can do it for 5 or 6, it means that one time at the gym on a dare you chalked up with your belt about to crush you and your face was blue and it was a fight or flight mechanism that got you through the first 3. The next 2 or 3 were just by virtue of your being numb from the shock of feeling that sort of weight at the bottom of the first couple.
Man I'm gettin' fired up over here... ;D
Man you guys keep thinking "supps" just makes training easier. Some things NEVER GET EASIER and this perfectly illustrates that point. The more you can do the farther into that zone you can go, and the deeper you go the deeper you wanna go...
"We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been..."
--Tool, "Lateralus"
Ha ha ha oh brother where's my Valeo belt oh brother epic example of beasthood oh my
I'm sure the "supps" help just a tad bit in recovery ::)
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the best double bicep pose EVER!!
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Found a few more.
Keep up the good work John!
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Now that is what a BB waist should look like.
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One of the best double bicep poses EVER!!
Absolutely!
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the best double bicep pose EVER!!
Mr. John Sherman,
I have never had the chance to meet you but have always admired your physique. Yes, this sport needs to appreciate physique such as yours again. Much props for all hard work you put into your body! That double bi shot is fricken sick!!!!
Stan McQuay
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Mr. John Sherman,
I have never had the chance to meet you but have always admired your physique. Yes, this sport needs to appreciate physique such as yours again. Much props for all hard work you put into your body! That double bi shot is fricken sick!!!!
Stan McQuay
Hell yeah keep this thread a ROCKIN', Stan! ;D HELL YEAH. Now see that's what I'm talking about right there...it's time to take this mother fucker BACK boys... 8)
Stan does our boy John Sherman THROW DOWN or does John Sherman THROW DOWN. THIS IS NOT A QUESTION! Ha ha
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Stan seems level headed. I am gladed he does not take part in the whole muscle over anything else part.
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Yes, still training just as hard as before. Contemplating getting back out there since the look that I brought to the table is now being appreciated
would be good to see you back on stage John!
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Great physique, classic shape and lines, as well as one of the leaders in pushing the size envelope.
All whilst retaining fantastic taper.
Would be great to see a comeback, how old are you, John?
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Sherman is a STRAIGHT UP, GOOD, HONEST, AND REAL, MAN.
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the best double bicep pose EVER!!
I see humility is not your cup of tea.
but yes that is an awesome front doubble
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Thanks!!
Sherman, you looked unbelievable at the 94 NOC. 192 pounds on you looked like 210! I had the Ironman Magazine that cover it, that was the first mag that I ever bought. It showed that you won the the Niagara Falls Classic. I think you placings in 96 were bogus, you deserved to have qualified for the O.
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nothin personal against Branch.. its all about aesthetics.
lolololol.
yeah right.
if that was the case dexter would be mr.o.
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I see humility is not your cup of tea.
but yes that is an awesome front doubble
Very humble, But, the TRUTH is the TRUTH
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Very humble, But, the TRUTH is the TRUTH
lol, John, that front double bi is killing them
can you give us a sample of your diet and cardio regiment?
to be honest, it would be to have you back but the IFBB does not reward people with your build
-> JJ, Alves, Darrem, Dexter, RR
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Two words why the Nationals was his best condition ever: Joe McNeal. That was the only show they worked together for. Joe also trained the heavyweight winner at that show, Chris Duffy. Again, the only show the two worked together for, and Chris' best shape ever. What's even more nuts is that for the overall, they were neck in neck and the decision went in John's favor by a single point. Talk about doing your job (Joe).
I give credit where credit is due, Joe and I worked together for the Nationals and he does know his stuff. But, that's not to say that he deserves all of the credit. I also did very well at the USA's that year and I had never met Joe, I lost that show by a single point to Flex Wheeler. SO, I kinda know what I'm doing myself. Joe is an awesome guy, too bad Dexter has him on lock. It would be very intersting to see what would happen if we put our heads together again, but,I have other tricks up my sleeve though, if I decide to comeback.
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Mr. John Sherman,
I have never had the chance to meet you but have always admired your physique. Yes, this sport needs to appreciate physique such as yours again. Much props for all hard work you put into your body! That double bi shot is fricken sick!!!!
Stan McQuay
Thanks Stan, It's just a matter of time before you get your just props as well(IFBB PRO CARD). We symmetrical guys have to stick together.
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Some awesome posts from McFarland and the incredible John Sherman in this thread! :o Great to have you here, John! :-*
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I think John is more complete than Lee Preist ( for a height comparison-- both are 5'4). John actually has a chest, great wheels, back and a tiny waist, and is not "gun" shy. It would be interesting to see these two mix it up on stage.
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John, we here at getbig love a good story. Can you give us some context about how this pic came together.
looks like your legs are crossed in a dance stance or something
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John seems to have that "Brian Buchanan-like" waist.
Mighty Mike Quinn had said that John's skin was thick like and elephant (Vic Richard has that problem), but I don't see it in those pics.
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John seems to have that "Brian Buchanan-like" waist.
Mighty Mike Quinn had said that John's skin was thick like and elephant (Vic Richard has that problem), but I don't see it in those pics.
Mike Quinn can kick rocks!!!.....Haters come in all shapes,sizes and colors. Funny, I can't remember a time when he EVER placed ahead of me. Hmmmmmm..... Mighty Mike is cool though and entitled to his opinion
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John is Shawn Ray as big a bore in real life as he is online?
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John is coming back next year and I wish him the very best.
He has phenomenal physique...and CAN DO THE DAMAGE!
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wow, never heard of John before but .... what an awesome physique !!!
good luck for next year !
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John it sounds like you might be in the market for a new trainer. Gotta get RIGHT, John! ;D
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its good to see john come back to competing hes done alot for bodybuilding with his shows every year. very well done and huge turnouts.
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Sick!!!!!!!!!
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Two words why the Nationals was his best condition ever: Joe McNeal. That was the only show they worked together for. Joe also trained the heavyweight winner at that show, Chris Duffy. Again, the only show the two worked together for, and Chris' best shape ever. What's even more nuts is that for the overall, they were neck in neck and the decision went in John's favor by a single point. Talk about doing your job (Joe).
Was that the show where Duffy "almost died" according to himself? I recall Duffy said he didn't care if bodybuilding prep killed him and that he came close to dying at the nationals, passed out back stage etc. Exactly what kind of methods does McNeal employ LOL
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Sean, what are your academic credentials? The stereotype "bodybuilders are meatheads", like most every other stereotype, is highly founded in fact. It's not like it was just made up. As much as I want to believe that in general it isn't true - it is. But...you seem to be even better than me at pointing out slight errors in what people post on here. Very impressive stuff.
Sean Maloney makes sure they
GET RIGHT
ha ha
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the best double bicep pose EVER!!
Your right up there bro. Takes 10 men to find your waistline there, it just totally dissapears......
Helluva physique bro!!!!!!
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Was that the show where Duffy "almost died" according to himself?
Chris Duffy almost died for you bitches! >:(
(right before he became a G4P man-whore)
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Chris Duffy almost died for you bitches! >:(
(right before he became a G4P man-whore)
WHoooosh
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No offense, but the November '92 issues of both IronMan and NPC News say that Flex won his class and overall unanimously. After placing second to Flex at the USA, I know for certain that is why Duffy contacted Joe, and I can only assume the same for you (though I did think that you looked great at the USA as well).
. It's cool. No offense taken. The truth be told, I never contacted Joe, He appraoched me @ the USA's and told me that he could get me 5% drier for the nationals than I was for this show( for the USA's, I worked with Keith Klein from Houston. The same nutritionists that Labrada used for his preparation). To set the record straight, Joe actually worked with Flex for the 92 USA(don't know if you were aware of that, but, just wanted to put that out there). After speaking with Flex in regards to the offer that Joe made me, I decided to take him up on it. We spoke on the phone each week prior to the nationals for diet only(he sent me a program which was very similar to what I was already doing. Never saw each other, never sent pictures, etc). When Joe picked me up at the airport for the show 2 days prior, he checked me out, pat me on the back and said that I was ready. As far as the magazine coverage, we all know they'll say whatever to move issues. If you were there, You should know how close it was. I know that I, Flex, Rico, Chris Cormier, Gary Strydom, Jim Manion, the emcee and everyone else that was there know the deal. It's all history and doesn't really matter, all entertainment. I'm starting to think that a comeback is necessary to clear up any confusion, what do you think?
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WHoooosh
McFarland got any crazy stories about Duffy?
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. It's cool. No offense taken. The truth be told, I never contacted Joe, He appraoched me @ the USA's and told me that he could get me 5% drier for the nationals than I was for this show( for the USA's, I worked with Keith Klein from Houston. The same nutritionists that Labrada used for his preparation). To set the record straight, Joe actually worked with Flex for the 92 USA(don't know if you were aware of that, but, just wanted to put that out there). After speaking with Flex in regards to the offer that Joe made me, I decided to take him up on it. We spoke on the phone each week prior to the nationals for diet only(he sent me a program which was very similar to what I was already doing. Never saw each other, never sent pictures, etc). When Joe picked me up at the airport for the show 2 days prior, he checked me out, pat me on the back and said that I was ready. As far as the magazine coverage, we all know they'll say whatever to move issues. If you were there, You should know how close it was. I know that I, Flex, Rico, Chris Cormier, Gary Strydom, Jim Manion, the emcee and everyone else that was there know the deal. It's all history and doesn't really matter, all entertainment. I'm starting to think that a comeback is necessary to clear up any confusion, what do you think?
Sounds like you're talking yourself into a bit of a corner there, yes. John you gonna get right or what man? ;D
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McFarland got any crazy stories about Duffy?
I got a few...ha ha. I remember Tom Prince saying that Chris Duffy would come into Gold's to do his cardio and he'd put 2 big blocks underneath each end of the bike so that it was hard to balance and he'd put on headphones, close his eyes, get in the zone, and would just be telling everybody around him "will Chris fall off today? Will Chris fall off today?" ;D ;D ;D
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I got a few...ha ha. I remember Tom Prince saying that Chris Duffy would come into Gold's to do his cardio and he'd put 2 big blocks underneath each end of the bike so that it was hard to balance and he'd put on headphones, close his eyes, get in the zone, and would just be telling everybody around him "will Chris fall off today? Will Chris fall off today?" ;D ;D ;D
Haha yeah I read that in Flex... actually I think Tom said he placed something under the front end so it was like doing a wheelie on a motocross LOL. Duffy said somewhere that motocross riders were even crazier than bodybuilders.
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Haha yeah I read that in Flex... actually I think Tom said he placed something under the front end so it was like doing a wheelie on a motocross LOL. Duffy said somewhere that motocross riders were even crazier than bodybuilders.
YEAH that's the more accurate telling...ha ha ha. That guy was nuts.
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Yes, I was aware that Joe worked with Flex. That was the reason behind my comment of "After placing second to Flex at the USA, I know for certain that is why Duffy contacted Joe". Again I said I assumed you had done the same knowing that Joe trained Flex.
Regarding that show, I do have the video of it. In my opinion, it was Flex and then everyone else. The emcee makes no mention of it being a single point decision whatsoever. I'm sure if I pressed the issue I could get JM to dig up the scoresheets and provide a fax. Regardless, you both looked great but on that day it was Flex head and shoulders above the rest (his competitive career as a whole should help that understanding be clearer).
Also, wasn't there a big stink by some current professionals at the time when the NPC News mag came out with Flex winning the USA? I believe the headline on the cover stated "Flex Wheeler's Win Makes Pros Shudder", or something along those lines. I guess some of the more "sensitive" pros thought that was a disrespectful comment. Unfortunately, their argument held water for only about 12 weeks until Flex's 4 straight win streak began at the IronMan in Feb of '93.
Irrespective of all of this, yes, a "best-ever" comeback would certainly be in order here. I have a feeling that maybe if you pressed Joe a little bit more, you may be able to turn the tide slightly. ;) If not, I know of a "Plan B" that would definitely be in your best interests.
Hmmmm......... .. .you may be right
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Any recent pics John?
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John is coming back next year and I wish him the very best.
He has phenomenal physique...and CAN DO THE DAMAGE!
Amen!
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John Sherman it sounds as though you may be looking to return to the competitive stage a champion. Is there any truth in this statement or should we regard this as purely the product of my misinformed speculation? ;D
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Hey John,
You ought to consider doing a DVD reality documentary on your comeback.
I know a guy. ;D
Scott
www.bodybuildersreality. com
Hope you're doing well!
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Hey John,
You ought to consider doing a DVD reality documentary on your comeback.
I know a guy. ;D
Scott
www.bodybuildersreality. com
Hope you're doing well!
I know people that may should be included on this project as well. Let's take this to PM, gentlemen. ;D
Matt C, meet me on deck. ;)
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I think we may be looking at future squad-approval here, boys. What say all of ye?
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I think we may be looking at future squad-approval here, boys. What say all of ye?
As far as I am concerned Sherman gets the approval.
I am reading his posts and am thankful that there is actually still some intelligent bodybuilders of the old guard still out there.
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As far as I am concerned Sherman gets the approval.
I am reading his posts and am thankful that there is actually still some intelligent bodybuilders of the old guard still out there.
Yes and these are the resources we must query for keys to our continued enjoyment of this sport, IMO.
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As far as I am concerned Sherman gets the approval.
I am reading his posts and am thankful that there is actually still some intelligent bodybuilders of the old guard still out there.
Fook me!! I'm sure John will sleep sounder than ever having your approval Gollum Adam ;D
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I'm starting to think that a comeback is necessary to clear up any confusion, what do you think?
Yeah, The Sherman Tank needs to come out of the mothballs. What happened the other time you came back, you know with the Muscleteck ads?
I'm sure if I pressed the issue I could get JM to dig up the scoresheets and provide a fax.
Could you get JM to make a DVD of the 92 USA's. FOr that matter the USA's from the 90's.
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As far as I am concerned Sherman gets the approval.
I am reading his posts and am thankful that there is actually still some intelligent bodybuilders of the old guard still out there.
Thank you sir, you are far too kind
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Thank you sir, you are far too kind
it doesn't matter, your come back is welcomed but doomed to fail!
the IFBB no longer recognizes or promotes your kind of build.
sad but true...
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it doesn't matter, your come back is welcomed but doomed to fail!
the IFBB no longer recognizes or promotes your kind of build.
sad but true...
Very disheartening. Has anyone ever called you"the bearer of bad news"? If I had've taken negative comments like that to heart, I would have never turned pro and had the success that I did. Thanks for your opinion, but, I think that I will take a more positive outlook on the subject if I do decide that a return is on the horizon.
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Very disheartening. Has anyone ever called you"the bearer of bad news"? If I had've taken negative comments like that to heart, I would have never turned pro and had the success that I did. Thanks for your opinion, but, I think that I will take a more positive outlook on the subject if I do decide that a return is on the horizon.
umm..if you think that I am the bearer of bad news then you didn't see this year's O
and this is after the X frame mandate...lol
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John, we here at getbig love a good story. Can you give us some context about how this pic came together.
looks like your legs are crossed in a dance stance or something
I believe that was the year that Chris was preparing for the USA(he did win). No dance, just had legs crossed. Those were good times. We were all pretty close then. Don't know what happend after that. Everyone went their separate ways .umm..if you think that I am the bearer of bad news then you didn't see this year's O
and this is after the X frame mandate...lol.
Point taken, Sir. I was there and didn't agree with quite a bit of the shows outcome.
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John is Shawn Ray as big a bore in real life as he is online?
Sorry dude, you can never get me to say anything bad Shawn Ray. He was whom I patterned my physique and posing after. Also, anytime that we have met, he was always as cool as fan. He gets nothing but respect from me. SORRY
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what a bodybuilder is suppose to look like, classic lines
..please post some more
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85% of current pros cannot pull a vacuum
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what a bodybuilder is suppose to look like, classic lines
..please post some more
Trust me, if I had more I would gladly post them. When I got food poisoning @ the Europa a few years back, I figured that it was time to close the book on this chapter of my life(so,I tossed them, along with most of my trophies and medals) . But, it seems as if everywhere I turned I saw signs that maybe my decision was somewhat premature. I have been still heavily involved in the sport(Promoting my contest and training others competitors) This year I had the opportunity to attend the Olympia(something that I told myself that I would never do unless I was on stage myself). Had a great time, saw lots of old friends and a fire that hasn't been there for a minute was lit. Currently, tossing around the idea of getting back up there and deciding which shows I should participate in. When I have new pics, I will most definitely post them.
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John is coming back next year and I wish him the very best.
He has phenomenal physique...and CAN DO THE DAMAGE!
Thanks Milos, that means so much coming from you! I'm in Fullerton quite often. I'll stop by on my next visit. Your gym looks huge !!!
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john was awesome. If I am not mistaken, He beat Paul dillett when he won his pro card.
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John, I remember your posing routine from the ('01?) Ironman, one of the best I've seen. You were totally overlooked at that show.
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Sorry dude, you can never get me to say anything bad Shawn Ray. He was whom I patterned my physique and posing after. Also, anytime that we have met, he was always as cool as fan. He gets nothing but respect from me. SORRY
How about some good qualities that make you admire Ray? I would love to hear them!
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You're mistaken. Dillet won his pro card earlier in the year at the North American. Guess who trained him? ;D That's right, the same guy who got Flex, Duffy, and John their pro cards in '92 as well. :o
Very impressive. You are very well versed in the history of our sport. Obviously you and Joe are pretty close. When you see Joe, tell him that there is more money to be made. All the groundwork as been layed. Let's get it done! Step up and finish what we started.
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A "closer to reality" picture of John's front double bi that I found by searching Yahoo Images. Sorry, John. ;D Still impressive, nonetheless.
(http://www.luvshortdudes.com/ES/54004.jpg)
That's alot of muscle to work with there. And even though he's not as tight there, the muscles still have that quality, tight sort of look that hint at just how chiseled that shit could get, if you ask me. That physique's capable of doing alot of hard work in a relatively short amount of time.
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A "closer to reality" picture of John's front double bi that I found by searching Yahoo Images. Sorry, John. ;D Still impressive, nonetheless.
(http://www.luvshortdudes.com/ES/54004.jpg)
Sorry for what? That's a 2001 off season shot(photographer was Ralph DeHaan), I look like that now(actually, a little tighter) and haven't competed in years. Compared to the offseason shape of the guys that I have seen that compete today, "closer to reality" looks pretty good(did you notice that there is no distended stomach). I'm a little confused, should I add you to the short list of haters that I have or not? You build me up, then you stick your leg out an attempt to trip me. ;D. Oh well, CARDIO TIME!!
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The 12th Annual John Sherman Bodybuilding Classic will be held on October 28, 2006 in Houston, Texas @ the Reliant Arena(Event hall E). The is the last National Qualifier of the year in Texas. This years featured guest posers will be 8 time Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, 2 time Ms. International and 3 time Ms.Olympia, Iris Kyle, Soon to be Mr. Olympia, Branch Warren, and 2 time Ms. Olympia(Fitness) Adela Garcia.
This has been the largest contest in the state for the past few years, and competition is always very fierce. This should be another great production.
Get your Tickets and Information for the show @ Great Earth Vitamins, 713.975.7094. Hope to see you there
soon to be - hahahahaha
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You're mistaken. Dillet won his pro card earlier in the year at the North American. Guess who trained him? ;D That's right, the same guy who got Flex, Duffy, and John their pro cards in '92 as well. :o
For the life of me, I can't understand why Melvin Anthony has not contacted Joe McNeal. He had a great track record, and especially with Dex as well. Since Mel has has the same type of physique as John and Flex, it would stand to reason that Joe could get Mel in better shape than "I take your kidneys" Chad.
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Sorry for what? That's a 2001 off season shot(photographer was Ralph DeHaan), I look like that now(actually, a little tighter) and haven't competed in years. Compared to the offseason shape of the guys that I have seen that compete today, "closer to reality" looks pretty good(did you notice that there is no distended stomach). I'm a little confused, should I add you to the short list of haters that I have or not? You build me up, then you stick your leg out an attempt to trip me. ;D. Oh well, CARDIO TIME!!
see John, this is what I am talking about. I guess that you didn't get the latest rule book!
the IFBB banned doing cardio in the offseason.
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what a bodybuilder is suppose to look like, classic lines
..please post some more
Amazing pic. No weak points, beautiful symmetry.
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Yes, I was aware that Joe worked with Flex. That was the reason behind my comment of "After placing second to Flex at the USA, I know for certain that is why Duffy contacted Joe". Again I said I assumed you had done the same knowing that Joe trained Flex.
Regarding that show, I do have the video of it. In my opinion, it was Flex and then everyone else. The emcee makes no mention of it being a single point decision whatsoever. I'm sure if I pressed the issue I could get JM to dig up the scoresheets and provide a fax. Regardless, you both looked great but on that day it was Flex head and shoulders above the rest (his competitive career as a whole should help that understanding be clearer).
Also, wasn't there a big stink by some current professionals at the time when the NPC News mag came out with Flex winning the USA? I believe the headline on the cover stated "Flex Wheeler's Win Makes Pros Shudder", or something along those lines. I guess some of the more "sensitive" pros thought that was a disrespectful comment. Unfortunately, their argument held water for only about 12 weeks until Flex's 4 straight win streak began at the IronMan in Feb of '93.
Irrespective of all of this, yes, a "best-ever" comeback would certainly be in order here. I have a feeling that maybe if you pressed Joe a little bit more, you may be able to turn the tide slightly. ;) If not, I know of a "Plan B" that would definitely be in your best interests.
To clear the air on the statement that you made in regards to Flex's competitve career as a whole should help the understanding be clearer. A bit of info about me that maybe you didn't know. Bodybuilding was never the vehicle that I used to keep food on my table. Mainly, the sport has been a hobby that I enjoyed. I have always, and will always have other things going on outside of the sport that I can depend on. With this sport, you're hot today, you're not tomorrow When I obtained my pro card, I was very naive in the way things were done in our sport. I didn't know that you had to nurture certain relationships, be scene in certain places, and do who knows what in order to make it. I actually believed that if an athlete represented a company, that he actually used their products(imagine my surprise when reality set in). I thought that it was all based on who worked the hardest, not who had access to the largest chemistry set or who you knew that could help you get where you wanted to go. I hope that you can get a clearer understanding of where I'm coming from. If I had have played the geme, the way that the game is played, there wouldn't be such a vast difference in our careers. Not offended by your statements, I just realize that unless you actually step foot on that stage and see what the guys go through, you can never really understand. I have been on both ends of the spectrum, so, I'm sure that I have a much clearer picture than you do.
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Sorry for what? That's a 2001 off season shot(photographer was Ralph DeHaan), I look like that now(actually, a little tighter) and haven't competed in years. Compared to the offseason shape of the guys that I have seen that compete today, "closer to reality" looks pretty good(did you notice that there is no distended stomach). I'm a little confused, should I add you to the short list of haters that I have or not? You build me up, then you stick your leg out an attempt to trip me. ;D. Oh well, CARDIO TIME!!
John, with all due respect. I am going to ask this question delicately. You say that you are about the same size, I would assume that you kept using the "supplements". Why use "creatine" if you are not competing?
also since the IFBB has no love for the aesthetic builds would you consider the PDI?
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John, with all due respect. I am going to ask this question delicately. You say that you are about the same size, I would assume that you kept using the "supplements". Why use "creatine" if you are not competing?
also since the IFBB has no love for the aesthetic builds would you consider the PDI?
I'll ask you back one question, why would someone want to look good only to compete ?
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JOHN IS ALL NATURAL YOU HATERS!! ;D
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I'll ask you back one question, why would someone want to look good only to compete ?
that would imply that you can't look good training naturally
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that would imply that you can't look good training naturally
you can look good but you can't be "big" naturally
now the word "big" is relative so if for you being 200 at 12% bf is big, yes you can be "big" naturally
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you can look good but you can't be "big" naturally
now the word "big" is relative so if for you being 200 at 12% bf is big, yes you can be "big" naturally
200lbs/12bf is not big....
but here is one pic under 200 that looks great
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200lbs/12bf is not big....
but here is one pic under 200 that looks great
comparing normal humans with Phil is ridiculous ;D
My muscles wouldn't even look that round if I was 230 onstage
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comparing normal humans with Phil is ridiculous ;D
My muscles wouldn't even look that round if I was 230 onstage
lol, fair enough
and I hear that he only drinks water, honey and milk. Does do any cardio and doesn't lift weights. He walked onstage after waking up and won :)
post a pic, I am curious to see who I am talking to...it does say competitor under your name
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John, with all due respect. I am going to ask this question delicately. You say that you are about the same size, I would assume that you kept using the "supplements". Why use "creatine" if you are not competing?
also since the IFBB has no love for the aesthetic builds would you consider the PDI?
In reply to your assumption, I have to say that you are INCORRECT. I have been training for 23 years, so, what I have is not going anywhere. I never really relied on much GEAR anyway. I wouldn't say that I was NAtural by any means when I competed, but, use was minimal@ best. I'm sure the EXPERTS on here will disagree. No reason to be dishonest though. Now, If I was to pull out my chem. set, we never know what might happen at this stage of the game
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John, with all due respect. I am going to ask this question delicately. You say that you are about the same size, I would assume that you kept using the "supplements". Why use "creatine" if you are not competing?
also since the IFBB has no love for the aesthetic builds would you consider the PDI?
Where are you guys getting this information that the IFBB has no love for symmetrical athletes..? Dexter, Dareem, David Henry, Shawn(in his day) Ronny R.(Australia)etc... These guys had no chance years back, but now, they are winning shows. Maybe not the Olympia yet, but, at least they are winning shows or being given a look. It's just a matter of time.....be patient. You guys may not like Shawn for whatever reason, but, if it were not for him and Lee Labrada, the lighter athletes would have never had any chance whatsoever
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hey John didn't i read somewhere that you were in some kind of car accident awhile back?
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hey John didn't i read somewhere that you were in some kind of car accident awhile back?
Yeah, I seem to DIE every year around the time that I promote my contest. Some sick JOKER insist on putting that out there. That rumor got all the way up to Jim Manion who called me to make sure that I was okay.
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Yeah, I seem to DIE every year around the time that I promote my contest. Some sick JOKER insist on putting that out there. That rumor got all the way up to Jim Manion who called me to make sure that I was okay.
hahahaha, yeah dude when i saw that you were on here i was like, i thought i read somewhere that he died in a car accident, glad to see you're OK, awesome physique, one of the best ever IMO.
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John, I was referring to the obviously "touched up" picture you posted as the "best double bi ever." The picture I posted shows a true representation of that pose for you, and not a morphed image. That's what I meant by closer to reality. The "sorry" comment was just me teasing you about posting a morphed pic. ;)
Sorry homie, that pic wasn't morphed. Since you know lots of people, contact Mitsuri O. He was the photographer that took that shot. There was one spot left on my haters list(Spot has just been filled by Sean Maloney) ....... ;) Since you and Joe are so close, The man himself will assure you that the pic that was posted was not morphed. I gave you too much credit
much too fast I see.
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Sorry homie, that pic wasn't morphed. Since you know lots of people, contact Mitsuri O. He was the photographer that took that shot. There was one spot left on my haters list(Spot has just been filled by Sean Maloney) ....... ;) Since you and Joe are so close, The man himself will assure you that the pic that was posted was not morphed. I gave you too much credit
much too fast I see.
Sorry John but Getbig's very own IFBB Mr Canada 1970 Vince Basile (the Steve Reeves of the '70s) has you beat there in the front double bi... ;D
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The legendary Vince Goodrum also looks awesome... ;D
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200lbs/12bf is not big....
but here is one pic under 200 that looks great
Phil = :o
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The legendary Vince Goodrum also looks awesome... ;D
You guys are hilarious!!!
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Actually, I believe it may have been the other way around regaring the credit allowance. Trace back and you'll see nothing but positives thrown at you from me, along with my attempt to keep the facts straight regarding the topics we've covered.
is this you Sean?
http://www.mostmuscular.com/features/seanmalowney/seanmalowney.html
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Sick!!!!!!!!!
This picture of John Sherman is what bodybuilding is all about. Great size and a small, tight waist.
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Great theory, but, that wasn't it......Food poisoining was the culprit that day. Had withdraw from that show. Your theory does make sense though.
HAHA how many pros use the excuse of being sick because they come in off.
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Yeah, but he's only 5'5 :-X
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Yeah, but he's only 5'5 :-X
Bumping a 3 year old thread? Jackass. ::)
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i met john at daimond gym in the mid 90,s and hes a really cool guy,laid back and nice to everyone.he looked insane the day i saw him,unreal build with quads that where out of this world