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Title: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Bast000 on October 26, 2006, 09:05:42 PM
his entire presidency so far.

0-100.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 26, 2006, 09:22:48 PM
his entire presidency so far.

0-100.
A living human being would rank somewhere between 0 to 100... You can't rank the Anti Christ on a level achievable by mere mortals.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 26, 2006, 09:24:24 PM
CRICKETS
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 24KT on October 26, 2006, 09:43:12 PM
I thought he did a superb acting job when he said he was a 'uniter, not a divider', and that he 'didn't believe in nation building' or 'deficit spending...' oh wait, ...he was only running for president, ...he wasn't actually president then so I guess it doesn't count.

Let's see,  what can I say that's good about pResident Bush...  :-\

...DARNIT! Couldn't you ask an easier question next time?

Oh, I know... he woke people up. We gotta give him a few points for that.
People at home and abroad had always taken certain inalieable rights for granted.
Bush made people painfully aware that there is a horrendous price to be paid for trusting untrustworthy people,
...so he should get a few points for that, ...and he may have single-handedly breathed new life into that old phrase "Never Again!" ...or at least we can only hope he has.

MY RESPONSE TO MODERATOR's EDIT:  No problem Historian. I can understand that some people may have lost their sense of humour, and really don't need to be wasting valueable resources in order to find it again. Especially considering this current climate, and the overblown and disproportionate concerns triggered by "Death of a President" which btw opens today.

ps: It was a lovely tie.  :D
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 26, 2006, 09:44:46 PM

Oops, I can't say that!

Nice . . . we'll look forward to your next visit to our great nation, Ms. Thang.


On topic, I rate Bush at approximately a 105 . . .
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Historian Yates on October 26, 2006, 09:50:47 PM
Dear Judy,

Ron doesn't need the FBI contacting him...

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 26, 2006, 09:59:02 PM
CRICKETS
Funny considering you're the guy who has to get pissy and bump his own posts to get a response :P
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 26, 2006, 10:00:44 PM
Funny considering you're the guy who has to get pissy and bump his own posts to get a response :P

It worked didn't it?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 26, 2006, 10:01:51 PM
It worked didn't it?
;D I guess you killed those crickets  ;D
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on October 26, 2006, 10:14:13 PM
;D I guess you killed those crickets  ;D

I think even a right wing zealot would admit that was pretty funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 26, 2006, 10:24:13 PM
I think even a right wing zealot would admit that was pretty funny.  ;D

how about those cardinals, mr. effin?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2006, 10:29:43 PM
On topic, I rate Bush at approximately a 105 . . .

Imagine the awesome score you would have given him if he HADN'T SAT READING ABOUT PET GOATS FOR SEVEN MINUTES AFTER HEARING OUR NATION WAS UNDER ATTACK.

I mean, even if you don't believe he knew 911 was going to happen (which means 12 of our allies who warned us were all lying for absolutely no reason), wouldn't the reasonable response of the leader of the free world - in a nuclear age with so many terror warnings - do something besides ask kids "Who likes to read? Who wants to read next?" after hearing the biggest news on US soil in 60 years.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 26, 2006, 10:34:09 PM
;D I guess you killed those crickets  ;D

LMAO ;D!!
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 26, 2006, 10:47:22 PM
Nice . . . we'll look forward to your next visit to our great nation, Ms. Thang.


On topic, I rate Bush at approximately a 105 . . .
See, Only the Anti Christ would rate higher than human standards... As a deciever, Bush get's over 105... Or he could be God but no way God/Jesus sucks up white lines of coke.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 26, 2006, 10:55:25 PM
See, Only the Anti Christ would rate higher than human standards... As a deciever, Bush get's over 105... Or he could be God but no way God/Jesus sucks up white lines of coke.

for all the shit I give you, at least you don't go whining to "Historian Yates" after talking a big game. can't say that about some others on here.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 26, 2006, 11:02:21 PM
thoughts???


Money Down the Drain in Iraq

When the full encyclopedia of Bush administration misfeasance in Iraq is compiled, it will have to include a lengthy section on the contracting fiascos that wasted billions of taxpayer dollars in the name of rebuilding the country. It isn’t only money that was lost. Washington’s disgraceful failure to deliver on its promises to restore electricity, water and oil distribution, and to rebuild education and health facilities, turned millions of once sympathetic Iraqis against the American presence.

Their discovery that the world’s richest, most technologically advanced country could not restore basic services to minimal prewar levels left an impression of American weakness and, worse, of indifference to the well-being of ordinary Iraqis. That further poisoned a situation already soured by White House intelligence breakdowns, military misjudgments and political blunders.

The latest contracting revelations came in a report issued Tuesday by the office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction. The office reviewed records covering $1.3 billion out of the $18.4 billion that Congress voted for Iraq reconstruction two years ago. Reported overhead costs ran from a low of 11 percent for several contracts awarded to Lucent to a high of 55 percent for, you guessed it, the Halliburton subsidiary, KBR Inc.

On similar projects in the United States, overhead is typically just a few percent. Given the difficult security environment in Iraq, overhead was expected to run closer to 10 percent. But in many of the contracts examined, it ran much, much higher, in some cases consuming over half the allocated funds. And the report may have actually underestimated total overhead because the government agencies that were supposed to be supervising these reconstruction projects sometimes failed to systematically track overhead expenses.

The main explanation for these excessive overhead rates turned out to be not special security costs but simply the costly down time that resulted from sending workers and equipment to Iraq months before there was any actual work for them to do. That is yet another example of the shoddy contract writing, lax oversight and absent supervision that has consistently characterized Washington’s approach to Iraq reconstruction from the start.

Bush administration incompetence, not corporate greed, is the chief culprit. Still, these charges are one more example of how the favored American companies lucky enough to be awarded reconstruction contracts made large sums of money while the Iraqis failed to get most of the promised benefits.

As Americans now look for explanations of how things went so horribly wrong in Iraq, they should not overlook the shameful breakdowns in reconstruction contracting. They need to insist that Congress impose tough new rules on the Pentagon to ensure more competitive bidding, tighter contract writing and more rigorous supervision. That is the best way to ensure that such a costly and damaging failure never happens again.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 26, 2006, 11:13:30 PM
for all the shit I give you, at least you don't go whining to "Historian Yates" after talking a big game. can't say that about some others on here.
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Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 26, 2006, 11:24:38 PM
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nothing much to it really.  the great Historian deigns to favor us w his presence once again, and my posts re: jag start disappearing w/o any explanation.    The woman likes to start fires, but can't stand any heat . . .

Guess I hit too close to home. 
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 26, 2006, 11:37:10 PM
nothing much to it really.  the great Historian deigns to favor us w his presence once again, and my posts re: jag start disappearing w/o any explanation.    The woman likes to start fires, but can't stand any heat . . .

Guess I hit too close to home. 
Not to start something again so soon because I've enjoyed the semi truce, but did you spam the thread with irrelevant material or stuff that could be taken as racist?  Give an example of what got deleted?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 26, 2006, 11:45:43 PM
1. All the race-related material I've posted has been ironic (i.e., leni riefenstahl pics in your thread about Israel), and I think the regular mods get that, as they have never been deleted to my knowledge.

2. Jag came on and made several posts in the bad hair day thread about how she still has her looks b/c she's never had a child, and having children is apparently what puts you in your grave. So I responded--to keep it brief--that everything has it's place.  When you're a 20 y o female, your beauty is part of what you bring to the world . . . when you're 40, one expects a more mature viewpoint, and different kinds of contributions . . . and that if at 40 you think you've still got what a 20 y o has, and take pride in that, then you're delusional . . . which would explain why she missed the boat in terms of moving on w her life. Didn't even use a profanity in my post. 

W/in a half hour of posting that, my post was deleted.  No explanation, no nothing.  I know Stella didn't do it, and BB lets me know when he modifies my posts. 

also noted something else deleted today in the Las Vegas thread . . . but that was a little edgier
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: smaul on October 27, 2006, 12:03:47 AM
his entire presidency so far.

0-100.

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Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 27, 2006, 12:18:02 AM
1. All the race-related material I've posted has been ironic (i.e., leni riefenstahl pics in your thread about Israel), and I think the regular mods get that, as they have never been deleted to my knowledge.

2. Jag came on and made several posts in the bad hair day thread about how she still has her looks b/c she's never had a child, and having children is apparently what puts you in your grave. So I responded--to keep it brief--that everything has it's place.  When you're a 20 y o female, your beauty is part of what you bring to the world . . . when you're 40, one expects a more mature viewpoint, and different kinds of contributions . . . and that if at 40 you think you've still got what a 20 y o has, and take pride in that, then you're delusional . . . which would explain why she missed the boat in terms of moving on w her life. Didn't even use a profanity in my post. 

W/in a half hour of posting that, my post was deleted.  No explanation, no nothing.  I know Stella didn't do it, and BB lets me know when he modifies my posts. 

also noted something else deleted today in the Las Vegas thread . . . but that was a little edgier
One thing that used to be a frequent technique on getbig was to spam a thread with enough crazy bullshit that it gets deleted... It used to happen all the time and I have to say that is what I thought you were trying to do by not posting opinion and posting pics that would piss off mods.  It turned into a flame war and poof..  The thread was deleted... Maybe that's not what you were doing but that's honestly what I thought you were doing so I melted.  I don't think your posts should be deleted if you weren't being malicious in an attempt to corrupt Jags post.  That is Bullshit if it is as you say.  The mods don't necessarily "get it" and they will hit the poof button.  Ok, back to the semi-truce ;D  I don't want to incure your wrath again soon :P
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: benchmstr on October 27, 2006, 12:30:09 AM
since i am a resonable guy

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Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: kh300 on October 27, 2006, 01:13:46 AM
if you dont like bush thats fine. but give a reason. post some proof of our economy going down, or education, or employment. because you cant. just because your poor, you dont have an education,your cars a piece of shit, or you cant get a job. its nobodys fault but your own lazy ass. and if this isnt the case, what are you bitching about.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2006, 01:18:17 AM
if you dont like bush thats fine. but give a reason. post some proof of our economy going down, or education, or employment. because you cant. just because your poor, you dont have an education,your cars a piece of shit, or you cant get a job. its nobodys fault but your own lazy ass. and if this isnt the case, what are you bitching about.

2800 people dead in Iraq for a reason our govt changed 3 times.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: JasonH on October 27, 2006, 01:28:59 AM
Out of 100?

Probably about 3.

Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 27, 2006, 01:37:35 AM
if you dont like bush thats fine. but give a reason. post some proof of our economy going down, or education, or employment. because you cant. just because your poor, you dont have an education,your cars a piece of shit, or you cant get a job. its nobodys fault but your own lazy ass. and if this isnt the case, what are you bitching about.
This is bast000's thread and he didn't ask for a reason...  Maybe he's just trying to get a feel for where people are scoring him and that's it.. People replied to the thread as is... If you don't like it, start your own thread and make demands there. ;D
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Wombat on October 27, 2006, 02:23:59 AM
 
I myself give Bush a rating of well over 100...I believe he is doing exactly what the real hidden government wants him to do...He is throwing it in our face for the fact that we are all followers and sheep and have no power...Look at all the taxes we have...100 years ago almost all of these did not exist and our economy was unmatched...Their was no phoney national debt...Bush is a president who showed us exactly what the real government thinks of us...And shame on us scared sheep for not listening to what is being told to us...

Clinton was a master at making people think what he was saying is true....Everyone on the planet understands that almost 85% of what Bush tells us is false and we do nothing...What a sad fu king world we live in...

what is sadder is people from all over the world are crossing borders to get into our country so they can live the american dream...What a joke...They too can buy a way overpriced house and lease a way over priced BMW(to keep up with the jones's)and get caught up in a capitalist system that makes everyone think that we all need these silly fcuking items to define us...Can anyone say Roman Empire...
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: pumpster on October 27, 2006, 03:23:34 AM
Can we use negative numbers? The economy finally started to recover, so at least single digits.

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Camel Jockey on October 27, 2006, 07:46:11 AM
-100
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Colossus_500 on October 27, 2006, 08:11:47 AM
60%

It would much higher if President Bush would have started his second term with some different players on his team (Powell as VP, and a more capable defense secretary)
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 27, 2006, 08:34:55 AM
60%

It would much higher if President Bush would have started his second term with some different players on his team (Powell as VP, and a more capable defense secretary)
He fired Powell.... fired him......
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: kh300 on October 27, 2006, 10:02:23 AM
Can we use negative numbers? The economy finally started to recover, so at least single digits.

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182



the war doesnt effect the economy
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2006, 10:13:36 AM
the war doesnt effect the economy

Is this a joke?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2006, 10:33:18 AM
60%

It would much higher if President Bush would have started his second term with some different players on his team (Powell as VP, and a more capable defense secretary)

I agree.  He should have cleaned house a bit.  Definitely should have gotten rid of Rumsfeld.  Powell as VP would have been great. 
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Bast000 on October 27, 2006, 03:39:01 PM
CRICKETS


what would you rank him seriously?   why that response to my post?  I said nothing negative.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Colossus_500 on October 27, 2006, 03:49:29 PM
I agree.  He should have cleaned house a bit.  Definitely should have gotten rid of Rumsfeld.  Powell as VP would have been great. 
Do you think someone will be smart enough to choose Powell as a VP (I don't think he'd run for Pres himself, but who knows - that would be outstanding if he did though)?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 27, 2006, 03:53:32 PM
powell won't run for veep . . . his wife won't let him, and she seems to need a lot of attention.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Colossus_500 on October 27, 2006, 03:55:22 PM
powell won't run for veep . . . his wife won't let him, and she seems to need a lot of attention.
I know.  Wishful thinking on my part, right?  Who do you like for '08 from the Republican party?  Who's a viable candidate from the Democratic party?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Bast000 on October 27, 2006, 04:01:17 PM
I know.  Wishful thinking on my part, right?  Who do you like for '08 from the Republican party?  Who's a viable candidate from the Democratic party?

I don't know but I'm sure they will both suck.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 27, 2006, 04:02:14 PM
I know.  Wishful thinking on my part, right?  Who do you like for '08 from the Republican party?  Who's a viable candidate from the Democratic party?

barack . . .

hillary's got the money to be a serious threat.

Frist will probably do it on the republican side.  he's managed to keep himself distanced from the iraq business.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: pumpster on October 27, 2006, 04:04:19 PM
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hillary's got the money to be a serious threat.
She has serious negatives amongst large portions of the electorate, thus they'll do whatever possible to find someone else.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2006, 04:06:56 PM
I know.  Wishful thinking on my part, right?  Who do you like for '08 from the Republican party?  Who's a viable candidate from the Democratic party?

I think Powell's wife is concerned about his safety.  Legit concern.  

I think McCain and Guiliani could be the Republican frontrunners and it's Hillary's nomination to lose on the Democrat side.  John Edwards should run.    

Obama gives a good speech, but I don't know enough about him to say whether or not he'd be a good candidate.  
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2006, 04:12:13 PM
It will be Kerry again, guys.  hilary and obama are battling for VP rights.  You should know this by now. 

Alex Jones accurately predicted for the full year of Dem battling 3 years ago (when Dean was 1st and kerry was 4th) because both Bush and Kerry were of the same college "club". 

Don't be naive.  bush's successor has been chosen, the Dems are just doing theater for the VP role, and the repubs will win in 08 because they have the "Luck O the hagel" on election day ;)
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 27, 2006, 04:13:24 PM
think we'll know if McCain is viable pretty soon . . . if the Reps keep Cong, he will be viable . . . if not, they're going to have to find a new man. 

don't like guiliani . . . in dixieland we think he's a damn yankee (frist isn't), and he's prolly not going to get the yankee vote after the NYT and the rest of the media's done w him.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 24KT on October 27, 2006, 05:16:02 PM

2. Jag came on and made several posts in the bad hair day thread about how she still has her looks b/c she's never had a child, and having children is apparently what puts you in your grave. So I responded--to keep it brief--that everything has it's place.  When you're a 20 y o female, your beauty is part of what you bring to the world . . . when you're 40, one expects a more mature viewpoint, and different kinds of contributions . . . and that if at 40 you think you've still got what a 20 y o has, and take pride in that, then you're delusional . . . which would explain why she missed the boat in terms of moving on w her life. Didn't even use a profanity in my post. 

W/in a half hour of posting that, my post was deleted.  No explanation, no nothing.  I know Stella didn't do it, and BB lets me know when he modifies my posts. 

1st - I made no such claims. My comments are still there in the thread for anyone who cares to read them.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=102274.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=102274.0)

I noticed one of your comments about how a woman ages has gone, and I doubt it was a mod that deleted it.

2nd - There was no need for an explaination. Your post was out-of-line and you knew it when making it.

Quote
also noted something else deleted today in the Las Vegas thread . . . but that was a little edgier

Edgey? - That was an unwarranted, personal, harrassing, demeaning attack, from behind your cloak of anonymity.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 27, 2006, 05:41:03 PM


Bottom line is this: You like to hide behind your cloak of anonymity threatening & harassing me despite your knowledge that such activity is illegal, and despite my having asked you to stop. You made numerous intentional & unwarranted personal attacks against another poster in this thread, and now you're crying because your comments were appropriately deleted.

i think any sensible person on here appreciates how delusional you are, so I won't respond to the first part of your post.

I now know that it wasn't Historian Yates who deleted my post . . . so, my apologies.

About my anonymity and illegality . . . hahaha, nice try. I've forgotten more about legality than you or the person who deleted my post will know. 

If either of you want to get serious and play the game that way, I'll be more than happy to accommodate y'all.  As i see it, this is a message board, and I'm out here to have fun--and sometimes I think it's fun to deflate your pompous ass. a little sadistic perhaps . . . but like I said, if you can't take the heat, then stay out of the kitchen. Keep bringing up the law, and we'll see what the law has to say. 

this kitchen is quite hot enough to make things quite difficult for you and your guardian angel if that's the way you want to play it.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 27, 2006, 06:24:02 PM
   

Obama gives a good speech, but I don't know enough about him to say whether or not he'd be a good candidate.   

i just found out that i'm going to get to hear and perhaps meet obama in the near future . . . looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: pumpster on October 27, 2006, 06:32:06 PM
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i just found out that i'm going to get to hear and perhaps meet obama in the near future . . . looking forward to it.
Let's hope he's less contrived in person. He sounds like an announcer in interviews.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 27, 2006, 06:34:36 PM
Let's hope he's less contrived in person. He sounds like an announcer in interviews.

lol . . . I blame Bush. People want to hear someone natural now, whereas obama's more of an old-school orator.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: OzmO on October 27, 2006, 06:58:08 PM
12/100
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 28, 2006, 04:57:51 PM
economically - 92
militarily - 71
immigration - 12
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 28, 2006, 05:04:58 PM
if you dont like bush thats fine. but give a reason. post some proof of our economy going down, or education, or employment. because you cant. just because your poor, you dont have an education,your cars a piece of shit, or you cant get a job. its nobodys fault but your own lazy ass. and if this isnt the case, what are you bitching about.
great post.  the thing that always kills me, is the big fuss being made over the national debt, i could rant for hours on how much of a non-issue it is.  these clueless delusional liberals are truly moronic sheep, it disgusts me...  shame that such idiots still exist these days.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: pumpster on October 28, 2006, 06:11:11 PM
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economically - 92
militarily - 71
immigration - 12
Delusional's a perfect name for you.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 28, 2006, 06:19:21 PM
Delusional's a perfect name for you.
how so? please enlighten me, sir.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: OzmO on October 28, 2006, 06:31:39 PM
Delusional's a perfect name for you.

We don't agree on much pump, but i'm with you here.  71-millitarily?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 28, 2006, 06:35:04 PM
We don't agree on much pump, but i'm with you here.  71-millitarily?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
i should have put 'national security'.
economically - 92
national security - 71
immigration - 12
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: OzmO on October 28, 2006, 06:37:34 PM
i should have put 'national security'.
economically - 92
national security - 71
immigration - 12

Yes, i agree with that (from one who travels a lot) .  but overall IMO  it's still a 12.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2006, 08:41:43 PM
great post.  the thing that always kills me, is the big fuss being made over the national debt, i could rant for hours on how much of a non-issue it is. 

How do you respond to this?

The United States is currently borrowing $665 billion annually from foreign lenders.

I bet you don't know how they'll collect, do ya?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 28, 2006, 09:30:26 PM
How do you respond to this?

The United States is currently borrowing $665 billion annually from foreign lenders.
how do i respond: wow. absolutely not. wrong.  665 billion? no, that was in 2004 when the deficit was at its highest ever in history.  it's 2006, did you know that??  now the economy is growing faster than the deficit which will be under 250 billion this year, with economic growth at over 400 billion.  get with the times.

cheers.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 28, 2006, 09:55:04 PM
i've changed my mind, and now give Bush a 98.6. 
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: OzmO on October 28, 2006, 10:12:13 PM
2 words:

World Bank
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Wombat on October 28, 2006, 10:19:06 PM
How do you respond to this?

The United States is currently borrowing $665 billion annually from foreign lenders.

I bet you don't know how they'll collect, do ya?

Its all about the Gross National Product which is Trillions...665 billion really doesn't mean a whole hell of alot...
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 28, 2006, 10:21:38 PM
Its all about the Gross National Product which is Trillions...665 billion really doesn't mean a whole hell of alot...
well, cant really sustain a deficit like that long term, not at current gross GDP and speed of economic growth, but the deficit now is almost 1 third of that now, with economic growth outpacing it.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 29, 2006, 12:35:53 AM
GAO Chief Warns Economic Disaster Looms


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061028/D8L1OC5G0.html

Here is our nation's top accountant telling us that very bad times are coming.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Bast000 on October 29, 2006, 01:12:40 AM

militarily - 71


 ::)

do you mean 17. 
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Bast000 on October 29, 2006, 01:13:52 AM

economically - 92


maybe currently but because of his spending and putting us in a fuckload of debt no one will be getting social security in the future.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: pumpster on October 29, 2006, 01:43:47 AM
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national security - 71
Completely the opposite-still plenty of loopholes that should've been addressed long ago.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 29, 2006, 01:48:05 AM
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 30, 2006, 04:09:28 PM
Former World Bank Chief Economist Predicts Global Crash
Nobel Prize winner Stiglitz highlights agenda of predatory globalism now arriving in America under auspices of NAFTA Superhighway, North American Union

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | October 30 2006

Former World Bank Vice President, Chief Economist and Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz has predicted a global economic crash within 24 months - unless the current downturn is successfully managed. Asked if the situation was being properly handled Stiglitz emphatically responded "no," and also drew ominous parallels to the development of the NAFTA Superhighway and the North American Union.

Stiglitz caused controversy in October 2001 when he exposed rampant corruption within the IMF and blew the whistle on their nefarious methods of inducing countries to fall under their debt before stripping them of sovereignty and hollowing out their economies.

Speaking on the nationally syndicated Alex Jones radio show, Stiglitz defined the process of globalization as a system that was "rigged against the poor countries, rigged for the advanced industrial countries - the result of that is there were an awful lot of losers."

The Columbia University Professor described how rampant privatization has crippled Mexico, in particular citing the sell-off of major infrastructure such as roads.

"They sold the roads to the private enterprise and the hope was that they would be more efficient but of course what happens is that they didn't maintain the roads, they couldn't generate enough revenue and they eventually had to default and give the roads back to the government."

Stiglitz agreed that the process of hijacking and looting key infrastructure on the part of the IMF and World Bank, as an offshoot of predatory globalization, had now moved from the third world to Europe, the United States and Canada.

Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 30, 2006, 04:20:26 PM
i should have put 'national security'.
economically - 92
national security - 71
immigration - 12
Wow, that's a lot of negatives for a delusional liberal ;D
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 30, 2006, 06:02:23 PM
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
and our economy is growing faster than that debt, its only at 65% of gdp, and shrinking. i can name 10 countries at the top of my head that have higher debt ratio than usa.  dont buy into the pessimistic hype.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 30, 2006, 06:04:09 PM
GAO Chief Warns Economic Disaster Looms


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061028/D8L1OC5G0.html

Here is our nation's top accountant telling us that very bad times are coming.

same in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s...USA is doing great and will continue.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Delusional Liberal on October 30, 2006, 06:09:10 PM
maybe currently but because of his spending and putting us in a fuckload of debt no one will be getting social security in the future.
again...debt is only at 65% of gdp and shrinking, like i said economy is growing faster than the deficit.  italy over 100% germany over 70% japan 170%, saudi arabia over 100%, could go on....  after world war 2 germany was at something like 500% of gdp in debt, USA after world war 2 was at over 100% of GDP.  dont buy into the liberal pessimistic hype, doomsdayers are always wrong, especially wrong in this case.
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 30, 2006, 09:37:23 PM
again...debt is only at 65% of gdp and shrinking, like i said economy is growing faster than the deficit.  italy over 100% germany over 70% japan 170%, saudi arabia over 100%, could go on....  after world war 2 germany was at something like 500% of gdp in debt, USA after world war 2 was at over 100% of GDP.  dont buy into the liberal pessimistic hype, doomsdayers are always wrong, especially wrong in this case.

Were you saying the same thing on Jan 1, 2001, when Pets.com and Lucent were big winners, and people couldn't stop talking about how Dotcoms were going to keep growing til their retirement?
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: Bast000 on October 31, 2006, 08:49:50 PM
again...debt is only at 65% of gdp and shrinking, like i said economy is growing faster than the deficit.  italy over 100% germany over 70% japan 170%, saudi arabia over 100%, could go on....  after world war 2 germany was at something like 500% of gdp in debt, USA after world war 2 was at over 100% of GDP.  dont buy into the liberal pessimistic hype, doomsdayers are always wrong, especially wrong in this case.

I think more people care about Social Security than they do GDP.    On the News they say that there won't be social security.  News programs, not some "liberal doomsdayers" so that's what I'm basing that statement on. 
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: BattleReadyTat on October 31, 2006, 09:48:50 PM
he gets a motha fukin 1
Title: Re: Rate President Bush's performance out of 100.
Post by: 240 is Back on November 01, 2006, 02:36:02 PM
manufacturing levels were the lowest in oct 06 in three years.

last month's monster DOW high was the result of lowered operating costs - from a drop in oil prices.  Now that they're going to jump significantly, we're going to seriously feel the lowered mnfg levels here.