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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: whitewidow on November 02, 2006, 12:16:05 AM
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this is why steroids are illegal
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few more. :)
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this is why steroids are illegal
If the first guy uses, he's not using enough because he's not large or defined.....
Vince Goodrum is natural, that explains the BF% and subcutaneous fat under his pecs....
DIV
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the first guy was using 750mg test/600mg deca
vince has admitted to using trenbolone and other AAs-
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slow your roll son :-\
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HAHAHA, I love that pic.
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'Billy Guns' is a fucking disgrace to humanity, not just bodybuilding. Why on earth is he using such a large amount of gear? I've been using about 9 years and my max [750 test/4-600 deca] is his starting point. Who the hell is giving him his gear advice? Surley it can't be Palumbo, his alleged friend.
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whitewidow...that pic is great...laughed my ass off.
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'Billy Guns' is a fucking disgrace to humanity, not just bodybuilding. Why on earth is he using such a large amount of gear? I've been using about 9 years and my max [750 test/4-600 deca] is his starting point. Who the hell is giving him his gear advice? Surley it can't be Palumbo, his alleged friend.
If that's what he looks like on 750MG Test ew, either his training or genetics aren't responding because there are many natural guys who look better than that.
Something isn't right.
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He started training and using AAS at the same time, which could explain his physique. :-\
DIV
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the man behind billys stack :-\
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the man behind billys stack :-\
No offense to Palumbo as a person because I've heard he's a decent guy, but he is the last person I'd want to look like if I was megadosing AAS.
He's been using non-stop for so many years that his body is rejecting the AAS/GH/IGF-1/Insulin....and whatever else he uses.
His body has really turned in to a science project and he's never going to reverse that body chemistry now.
There comes a point at which your body stops fighting homeostasis because it has been abused so long that it doesn't know what to do and how to counteract the influx of foreign substances in to the system and his body has reached that point of no return....
I don't think he could go back to being natural even if he wanted to.
His body would literally fall apart....
The worst part about it is that he is college educated and well read.
Sad. :-\
DIV
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this is why steroids are illegal
This guy doesnt use shit, if he does he looks like shit and is injecting sugar water
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This guy doesnt use shit, if he does he looks like shit and is injecting sugar water
You settle down, leycus.....
This ain't a radio show.
If the bitch says he's using 750MG Test per week.....who are we to argue?
He may just have horrible genetics, training, diet...
Some people just don't grow no matter what they use. :-X
DIV
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You settle down, leycus.....
This ain't a radio show.
If the bitch says he's using 750MG Test per week.....who are we to argue?
He may just have horrible genetics, training, diet...
Some people just don't grow no matter what they use. :-X
DIV
True true..... But even with shitty genetics u can still tell for the most part if their on somthing..
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True true..... But even with shitty genetics u can still tell for the most part if their on somthing..
Bro if you know billyguns- then you would no this is not a joke! this is why he is a dissgrace to all juicers. just check his website www.billyguns.com he used to brag about his use on his site-
he says his motto at his gym in NY is--"train natural- look like shit,feel like shit,train like shit,accomplish shit!
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Bro if you know billyguns- then you would no this is not a joke! this is why he is a dissgrace to all juicers. just check his website www.billyguns.com he used to brag about his use on his site-
he says his motto at his gym in NY is--"train natural- look like shit,feel like shit,train like shit,accomplish shit!
I take your word for it, widow....
No need to go to the website.
Bragging about AAS use is asking for trouble.
All it takes is one cop who doesn't like you to make your life miserable.
DIV
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Bro if you know billyguns- then you would no this is not a joke! this is why he is a dissgrace to all juicers. just check his website www.billyguns.com he used to brag about his use on his site-
he says his motto at his gym in NY is--"train natural- look like shit,feel like shit,train like shit,accomplish shit!
well his motto should be "train on juice, look like shit, feel like shit, train like shit". :P
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well his motto should be "train on juice, look like shit, feel like shit, train like shit". :P
your right-go to his website and email him that- please!
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I've seen Billy's web page and seen his post on the new MD board. Palumbo backs up Billy's claim that he does use AAS, apparently he is Billy's adviser. I'll say this for Billy, he does seem to have a strong desire and passion to do well and accomplish his goals, but at the same time he obviously has some bad misconceptions on the proper way to do things as well as conduct himself in the message board arena. I do not think the advice Dave is giving him is bad advice, rather, I believe that it's the simple fact that Billy may not be following it as he should. Last off, according to Billy's web site, he recently had a bad accident of some sorts that put him out of training for some time and he has not been back to full force training for very long...so that could be part of why he looks like he does.
Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not defending Billy as some sort of champion BB, not even close. Like I said, it simply seems that he has some horrible misconceptions about proper BB, is not following Dave's advice as he should since he paid or it, and has had some injury problems. Delusional? Maybe a little, but not near on the level as the all mighty Vince.
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I've seen Billy's web page and seen his post on the new MD board. Palumbo backs up Billy's claim that he does use AAS, apparently he is Billy's adviser. I'll say this for Billy, he does seem to have a strong desire and passion to do well and accomplish his goals, but at the same time he obviously has some bad misconceptions on the proper way to do things as well as conduct himself in the message board arena. I do not think the advice Dave is giving him is bad advice, rather, I believe that it's the simple fact that Billy may not be following it as he should. Last off, according to Billy's web site, he recently had a bad accident of some sorts that put him out of training for some time and he has not been back to full force training for very long...so that could be part of why he looks like he does.
Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not defending Billy as some sort of champion BB, not even close. Like I said, it simply seems that he has some horrible misconceptions about proper BB, is not following Dave's advice as he should since he paid or it, and has had some injury problems. Delusional? Maybe a little, but not near on the level as the all mighty Vince.
I don't take anyone seriously who boasts of their AAS use, esp on a personal website.
Palumbo is not one to take advice from regarding AAS use.
Training advice perhaps.......but that's the extent of it.
Vince is just a bit nutty, and doesn't know how to diet down...
I really don't differentiate between the two of them....
Both stupid, just in different ways.
DIV
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I guess you could call this a most muscular :-\
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I guess you could call this a most muscular :-\
Well, if he does use AAS, hopefully his website doesn't come back to bite him legally.
DIV
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I guess you could call this a most muscular :-\
this looks like one of those picture where they put a different head on a different body--- his head looks way too big for his body.... I think he got scammed on his gear :-\
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Well, if he does use AAS, hopefully his website doesn't come back to bite him legally.
DIV
billy reconstructed his site over the weekend- its his post on MD that might bite him in the ass :-\
BTW- div- what do you think of that most muscular- its the funniest one ive ever seen :-X
as for vince- he has used AAS but not since 2001- or 2002- I like vince alot- I probably would not be on this board as much if not for vince- hes sure when hell of a character- I dont think he diets or trains- he just jumps onstage when he feel like it :-\ he is pretty popular and alot of people know who he is,so it works for him.In all honesty,if flex or MD put one of those comp pics of vince on the cobver- it would be the best selling issue ever! Not even joking!
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billy reconstructed his site over the weekend- its his post on MD that might bite him in the ass :-\
BTW- div- what do you think of that most muscular- its the funniest one ive ever seen :-X
as for vince- he has used AAS but not since 2001- or 2002- I like vince alot- I probably would not be on this board as much if not for vince- hes sure when hell of a character- I dont think he diets or trains- he just jumps onstage when he feel like it :-\ he is pretty popular and alot of people know who he is,so it works for him.In all honesty,if flex or MD put one of those comp pics of vince on the cobver- it would be the best selling issue ever! Not even joking!
This website gets alot of coverage in the bodybuilding industry because of the pros who post here. I'm sure the editors of MD, FLEX, MuscleMag know who Vince Goodrum is.
Now whether they actually feature him in a issue is a different matter altogether.
DIV
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This website gets alot of coverage in the bodybuilding industry because of the pros who post here. I'm sure the editors of MD, FLEX, MuscleMag know who Vince Goodrum is.
Now whether they actually feature him in a issue is a different matter altogether.
DIV
Im sure they know who he is too- he is world reknowned. Id bet money- agoodrum cover shot on flex or Md would sell millions.
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Would buy 20 copies if Vince was on the cover.
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Would buy 20 copies if Vince was on the cover.
I think there are many of us who would do the same- it would be an instant collectors item.
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Im sure they know who he is too- he is world reknowned. Id bet money- agoodrum cover shot on flex or Md would sell millions.
Let's not get carried away, widower.
Perhaps GetBig.com would run right out to buy it, but that hardly makes up millions or even one million.
Bodybuilding can barely support their shows as it is, much less pay their bodybuilders what they deserve, so where are these millions going to come from? ::)
DIV
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Let's not get carried away, widower.
Perhaps GetBig.com would run right out to buy it, but that hardly makes up millions or even one million.
Bodybuilding can barely support their shows as it is, much less pay their bodybuilders what they deserve, so where are these millions going to come from? ::)
DIV
the same people who buy it every month will buy it- plus the getbiggers would buy close to 100,000 of them easy.sales would be big.
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Wow. lack of diet.
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Wow. lack of diet.
thats an understatement-
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LOL
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Thats why one needs to plateu before using AAS.
Its no friggin use for a couch potato to suddelnly go to gym and start juicing after 3 months of training. I first hit it after over 5 years of solid training and over 8 years overall gym experience.
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No offense to Palumbo as a person because I've heard he's a decent guy, but he is the last person I'd want to look like if I was megadosing AAS.
He's been using non-stop for so many years that his body is rejecting the AAS/GH/IGF-1/Insulin....and whatever else he uses.
His body has really turned in to a science project and he's never going to reverse that body chemistry now.
There comes a point at which your body stops fighting homeostasis because it has been abused so long that it doesn't know what to do and how to counteract the influx of foreign substances in to the system and his body has reached that point of no return....
I don't think he could go back to being natural even if he wanted to.
His body would literally fall apart....
The worst part about it is that he is college educated and well read.
Sad. :-\
DIV
Um, How do you know his body rejects AAS.
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Did you guys see what he said here?????
Im not even sponsored myself yet- Im working on getting a deal right now- Im submitting before and after pics to alot of companys- trying to get some magazing coverage. I have a good job- I make 6 figures- wich is more than most IFBB pros make- I just do this as a hobby although at the same time im very serious and would like to go somewhere in the sport. my website is updated and as you see i have a bright future ahead of me. Im getting tons of clicks per day.
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Um, How do you know his body rejects AAS.
Palumbo?
Read up on the "Palumboism" thread in the Gossip Section.
It may have ended up there but it was started by Marble (who was the best AAS biochemistry guy who ever posted) here in this section.
Palumbo's body has stopped responding to AAS the way it has in the past, for what reason we don't know because there are no scientific studies done on bodybuilders who abuse AAS.
All that can be said is that after about fifteen or so years of concurrent megadosing, the body starts to rebel and reject the drugs, or perhaps a better explanation would be that the body responds differently to them than before.
Whatever the reason is conjecture.....
Look at Palumbo, Kovacs and Kamali as the prime examples....
They all started abusing AAS at very young ages......I believe teenage years and now about fifteen to twenty years down the road all have the same ravages.
Torso development starts to dwarf the arms and legs, distended abdominal wall, unnatural growth of the head....
It's almost as if they are genetically regressing to neanderthal and that is what they are starting to look like.
No on really knows what combination of AAS/Insulin/IGF-1/GH is directly responsible, perhaps a synergistic effect occurs?
Whatever the case.......Palumbo was finished as a competitive bodybuilder several years ago.
DIV
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Yeah, I've seen the palumboism thread. Its a good read. These guys absolutely ruined their bodies and most likely their health. Poor kovacs, at the Arnold i saw him sitting down with his ripped gut sweating like he just got done with a workout and trying to catch his breath. I guess at least with abust of other drugs you can make some sort of recovery. I dont think its the case with these guys. They are f*cked.
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Yeah, I've seen the palumboism thread. Its a good read. These guys absolutely ruined their bodies and most likely their health. Poor kovacs, at the Arnold i saw him sitting down with his ripped gut sweating like he just got done with a workout and trying to catch his breath. I guess at least with abust of other drugs you can make some sort of recovery. I dont think its the case with these guys. They are f*cked.
I saw some photos of him from one of his last contests which MuscleTech forced him to enter at the threat of cancelling his contract.
He looked horrible, no separation of muscle groups and his stomach was distended and bulging as if he was due to give birth on-stage. There's nothing worse than seeing a guy with cut abs, yet a bulging belly. His internal organs have grown so much from the GH/IGF-1 that there is no going back, failing surgery perhaps to cut out some of the excess intestinal growth.....
Those who were there actually felt bad for him because he looked miserable and was just an embarrassment to himself in that condition. I can't imagine what it must have been like..... :-\
What people forget is, with most drugs you can just get off them and there is no permanent damage.
Unfortunately, with IGF-1/GH/Insulin, if you abuse them long enough the effects are irreversible and on some level you are altering your genetic structure. These drugs, IGF-1 and GH in particular, attach to receptor cells the same way AAS do, only that once they initiate growth in specific tissues, there is no way to turn off that growth even after cessation of the drug.
You stop using AAS and the muscles will retain less protein, less creatine and the overall skeletal muscle system retains homeostasis. You stop IGF-1/GH and there's no guarantee that your intestines will stop growing, nor your head/jaw/hands/nose....etc...
No going back.
DIV
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really? thats why juice is illegal..huh? ???
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palumbos contest pics are scarry :o
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i knew someone just lik that took hellof steroids like an idiot would just keep taking them never really stopped some clown started bleeding from his eyes when trying to max on bench and he never seemed roided out to me.....clowns
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palumbos contest pics are scarry :o
Palumbo is scary, in general.
The "bug-eyed" look......
Even to the casual observer, he doesn't seem "healthy".
DIV
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Yeah- I eat extra als whne I train, I also do like zero cardio, thats gotta change though, I think thats why my abs are blurry.
Billys latest, his abs are just a little blurry, thats all. Other than that, he's looking great.
http://www.genxxl.com/showthread.php?p=113169#post113169
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Next Mr. Olympia. Instead of thanking Jesus, he'll be thanking Budweiser.
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Next Mr. Olympia. Instead of thanking Jesus, he'll be thanking Budweiser.
haha, look what else he posted in that thread on genxxl.
well like Ive said before- the only real side -effect ive experienced is severe lethargy wich is what hinders my cardio training, I just dont want to do it- I lift then want to go home and eat and get a beer.
Yeah-I kow and believe me if I could stop drinking i would. im sure alot of people drink a beer or two on this forum. thursday,friday,saturday,and sunday I drink harder, especially sunday,I love drinking beer and watching football, ive been known to get wild and crush bottles over my own head.
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Im no expert but when I look at people like palumbo and kovacs in particular, with their atrophied arms and legs but big waist, it looks like to me their bodies are starting to counter all the hgh/igf-1 with releasing alot of cortisol.
As far as that billy guns guy goes - i looked better than he did after 18 months of training natural. From reading some of his posts he seems like the kind of guy who likes to think hes alot harder than he really is.
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haha, look what else he posted in that thread on genxxl.
From the Bguns quotes in this post I have deduced he is a jackass. Drinks 5 days a week and gets crazy drunk watching football ::) Sounds like a little frat boy who just found out about getting drunk in his buddies parent's basement. Cant beleive he juices, this has to be a gimick from someone who disslikes the guy in the pics....... please tell me it is?
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I would never guessed he did steroids or even worked out hard. I am 25 and just started juicing a little over a year ago and have had awesome gains. Dont know what this guy has done wrong except diet must be horrible or he just really isnt working out. I know other guys who juice and work out less intense then me and have had gains. There are two guys in their mid 30's I know who have juiced regularly for 10 years. And look great. Your right this is a disgrace!! I do see guys though at the gym who will go do a set here and their look fat and think they are a body builder go figure.
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here is another dellusional dissgrace :-\
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here is another dellusional dissgrace :-\
Crazy arm veins and brutal rings around the nipples.
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God I'd hate to see the response I'd get if I posted a pic. I guess everyone on Get Big is 230 and 6% BF.
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^ No way! I'm in terrible shape and my pics prove it. I was just poking some fun at the guy Getbig style. No harm intended at all.
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Yeah, lol, know I was just messin around. This big guy in my gym was posing yesterday in the open aerobics area where all the mirrors were.He is huge and in pretty good shape, not contest yet though, but I was tempted to tell him he looked like hammered shit, GetBig style.
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God I'd hate to see the response I'd get if I posted a pic. I guess everyone on Get Big is 230 and 6% BF.
No we're all 300 & 3% BF. ;D
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No we're all 300 & 3% BF. ;D
Oh my mistake, I knew i should have blown the numbers up at least by 70%. That'd be more along the lines of GetBig. BTW I squat 1000 and bench 700.
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BTW I squat 1000 and bench 700.
Weak...you're in the bottom 25%. We all average a 1500 squat & 900 bench.
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I think the key is if your jucing keep your diet clean enough nutrients and supps train intensly and you will see results. I like to keep my diet pretty clean year round except on sat or sun. I eat just about anything I want. I like to see abs year round. Even with abs and definition I would not consider myself in contest shape though at six foot 240. My BF stays around 8-10%
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Weak...you're in the bottom 25%. We all average a 1500 squat & 900 bench.
Damn, I better step up my game if I plan on hangin around here anymore.
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You settle down, leycus.....
This ain't a radio show.
If the bitch says he's using 750MG Test per week.....who are we to argue?
He may just have horrible genetics, training, diet...
Some people just don't grow no matter what they use. :-X
DIV
Or he could be using something severly underdosed or fake.
PB