Author Topic: a dissgrace to all who juice. (Read 9619 times)

whitewidow · « **Reply #25 on:** November 02, 2006, 07:28:17 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on November 02, 2006, 07:22:14 PM

This website gets alot of coverage in the bodybuilding industry because of the pros who post here. I'm sure the editors of MD, FLEX, MuscleMag know who Vince Goodrum is.

Now whether they actually feature him in a issue is a different matter altogether.

DIV

Im sure they know who he is too- he is world reknowned. Id bet money- agoodrum cover shot on flex or Md would sell millions.

anabol-lektor · « **Reply #26 on:** November 02, 2006, 07:32:27 PM »

Would buy 20 copies if Vince was on the cover.

whitewidow · « **Reply #27 on:** November 02, 2006, 07:42:20 PM »

Quote from: anabol-lektor on November 02, 2006, 07:32:27 PM

Would buy 20 copies if Vince was on the cover.

I think there are many of us who would do the same- it would be an instant collectors item.

DIVISION · « **Reply #28 on:** November 02, 2006, 08:48:41 PM »

Quote from: whitewidow on November 02, 2006, 07:28:17 PM

Im sure they know who he is too- he is world reknowned. Id bet money- agoodrum cover shot on flex or Md would sell millions.

Let's not get carried away, widower.

Perhaps GetBig.com would run right out to buy it, but that hardly makes up millions or even one million.

Bodybuilding can barely support their shows as it is, much less pay their bodybuilders what they deserve, so where are these millions going to come from?

DIV

whitewidow · « **Reply #29 on:** November 02, 2006, 08:54:25 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on November 02, 2006, 08:48:41 PM

Let's not get carried away, widower.

Perhaps GetBig.com would run right out to buy it, but that hardly makes up millions or even one million.

Bodybuilding can barely support their shows as it is, much less pay their bodybuilders what they deserve, so where are these millions going to come from?

DIV

the same people who buy it every month will buy it- plus the getbiggers would buy close to 100,000 of them easy.sales would be big.

whitewidow · « **Reply #30 on:** November 02, 2006, 09:02:06 PM »

ignorance · « **Reply #31 on:** November 02, 2006, 11:47:07 PM »

Wow. lack of diet.

whitewidow · « **Reply #32 on:** November 03, 2006, 12:26:08 AM »

Quote from: ignorance on November 02, 2006, 11:47:07 PM

Wow. lack of diet.

thats an understatement-

D-bol · « **Reply #33 on:** November 03, 2006, 03:10:48 AM »

Quote from: whitewidow on November 02, 2006, 09:02:06 PM

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D-bol · « **Reply #34 on:** November 03, 2006, 03:15:33 AM »

Thats why one needs to plateu before using AAS.
Its no friggin use for a couch potato to suddelnly go to gym and start juicing after 3 months of training. I first hit it after over 5 years of solid training and over 8 years overall gym experience.

BigNBloated · « **Reply #35 on:** November 03, 2006, 09:11:30 AM »

Quote from: DIVISION on November 02, 2006, 01:35:45 PM

No offense to Palumbo as a person because I've heard he's a decent guy, but he is the last person I'd want to look like if I was megadosing AAS.

He's been using non-stop for so many years that his body is rejecting the AAS/GH/IGF-1/Insulin....and whatever else he uses.

His body has really turned in to a science project and he's never going to reverse that body chemistry now.

There comes a point at which your body stops fighting homeostasis because it has been abused so long that it doesn't know what to do and how to counteract the influx of foreign substances in to the system and his body has reached that point of no return....

I don't think he could go back to being natural even if he wanted to.

His body would literally fall apart....

The worst part about it is that he is college educated and well read.

Sad. $:-\$

DIV

Um, How do you know his body rejects AAS.

XFACTOR · « **Reply #36 on:** November 03, 2006, 10:02:43 AM »

Did you guys see what he said here?

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Im not even sponsored myself yet- Im working on getting a deal right now- Im submitting before and after pics to alot of companys- trying to get some magazing coverage. I have a good job- I make 6 figures- wich is more than most IFBB pros make- I just do this as a hobby although at the same time im very serious and would like to go somewhere in the sport. my website is updated and as you see i have a bright future ahead of me. Im getting tons of clicks per day.
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DIVISION · « **Reply #37 on:** November 03, 2006, 10:40:13 AM »

Quote from: BigNBloated on November 03, 2006, 09:11:30 AM

Um, How do you know his body rejects AAS.

Palumbo?

Read up on the "Palumboism" thread in the Gossip Section.

It may have ended up there but it was started by Marble (who was the best AAS biochemistry guy who ever posted) here in this section.

Palumbo's body has stopped responding to AAS the way it has in the past, for what reason we don't know because there are no scientific studies done on bodybuilders who abuse AAS.

All that can be said is that after about fifteen or so years of concurrent megadosing, the body starts to rebel and reject the drugs, or perhaps a better explanation would be that the body responds differently to them than before.

Whatever the reason is conjecture.....

Look at Palumbo, Kovacs and Kamali as the prime examples....

They all started abusing AAS at very young ages......I believe teenage years and now about fifteen to twenty years down the road all have the same ravages.

Torso development starts to dwarf the arms and legs, distended abdominal wall, unnatural growth of the head....

It's almost as if they are genetically regressing to neanderthal and that is what they are starting to look like.

No on really knows what combination of AAS/Insulin/IGF-1/GH is directly responsible, perhaps a synergistic effect occurs?

Whatever the case.......Palumbo was finished as a competitive bodybuilder several years ago.

DIV

BigNBloated · « **Reply #38 on:** November 03, 2006, 11:14:07 AM »

Yeah, I've seen the palumboism thread. Its a good read. These guys absolutely ruined their bodies and most likely their health. Poor kovacs, at the Arnold i saw him sitting down with his ripped gut sweating like he just got done with a workout and trying to catch his breath. I guess at least with abust of other drugs you can make some sort of recovery. I dont think its the case with these guys. They are f*cked.

DIVISION · « **Reply #39 on:** November 03, 2006, 11:30:42 AM »

Quote from: BigNBloated on November 03, 2006, 11:14:07 AM

Yeah, I've seen the palumboism thread. Its a good read. These guys absolutely ruined their bodies and most likely their health. Poor kovacs, at the Arnold i saw him sitting down with his ripped gut sweating like he just got done with a workout and trying to catch his breath. I guess at least with abust of other drugs you can make some sort of recovery. I dont think its the case with these guys. They are f*cked.

I saw some photos of him from one of his last contests which MuscleTech forced him to enter at the threat of cancelling his contract.

He looked horrible, no separation of muscle groups and his stomach was distended and bulging as if he was due to give birth on-stage. There's nothing worse than seeing a guy with cut abs, yet a bulging belly. His internal organs have grown so much from the GH/IGF-1 that there is no going back, failing surgery perhaps to cut out some of the excess intestinal growth.....

Those who were there actually felt bad for him because he looked miserable and was just an embarrassment to himself in that condition. I can't imagine what it must have been like..... $:-\$

What people forget is, with most drugs you can just get off them and there is no permanent damage.

Unfortunately, with IGF-1/GH/Insulin, if you abuse them long enough the effects are irreversible and on some level you are altering your genetic structure. These drugs, IGF-1 and GH in particular, attach to receptor cells the same way AAS do, only that once they initiate growth in specific tissues, there is no way to turn off that growth even after cessation of the drug.

You stop using AAS and the muscles will retain less protein, less creatine and the overall skeletal muscle system retains homeostasis. You stop IGF-1/GH and there's no guarantee that your intestines will stop growing, nor your head/jaw/hands/nose....etc...

No going back.

DIV

on one · « **Reply #40 on:** November 03, 2006, 02:09:14 PM »

really? thats why juice is illegal..huh?

whitewidow · « **Reply #41 on:** November 03, 2006, 02:16:42 PM »

palumbos contest pics are scarry

on one · « **Reply #42 on:** November 03, 2006, 03:01:50 PM »

i knew someone just lik that took hellof steroids like an idiot would just keep taking them never really stopped some clown started bleeding from his eyes when trying to max on bench and he never seemed roided out to me.....clowns

DIVISION · « **Reply #43 on:** November 03, 2006, 05:22:06 PM »

Quote from: whitewidow on November 03, 2006, 02:16:42 PM

palumbos contest pics are scarry

Palumbo is scary, in general.

The "bug-eyed" look......

Even to the casual observer, he doesn't seem "healthy".

DIV

danielson · « **Reply #44 on:** November 03, 2006, 07:51:54 PM »

Quote from: billyguns;113169

Yeah- I eat extra als whne I train, I also do like zero cardio, thats gotta change though, I think thats why my abs are blurry.

Billys latest, his abs are just a little blurry, thats all. Other than that, he's looking great.

http://www.genxxl.com/showthread.php?p=113169#post113169

GoneAway · « **Reply #45 on:** November 04, 2006, 06:56:15 AM »

Next Mr. Olympia. Instead of thanking Jesus, he'll be thanking Budweiser.

dragonheart · « **Reply #46 on:** November 04, 2006, 06:34:28 PM »

Quote from: LoveTheSport on November 04, 2006, 06:56:15 AM

Next Mr. Olympia. Instead of thanking Jesus, he'll be thanking Budweiser.

haha, look what else he posted in that thread on genxxl.

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well like Ive said before- the only real side -effect ive experienced is severe lethargy wich is what hinders my cardio training, I just dont want to do it- I lift then want to go home and eat and get a beer.

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Yeah-I kow and believe me if I could stop drinking i would. im sure alot of people drink a beer or two on this forum. thursday,friday,saturday,and sunday I drink harder, especially sunday,I love drinking beer and watching football, ive been known to get wild and crush bottles over my own head.

dragonheart · « **Reply #47 on:** November 04, 2006, 06:36:49 PM »

Im no expert but when I look at people like palumbo and kovacs in particular, with their atrophied arms and legs but big waist, it looks like to me their bodies are starting to counter all the hgh/igf-1 with releasing alot of cortisol.

As far as that billy guns guy goes - i looked better than he did after 18 months of training natural. From reading some of his posts he seems like the kind of guy who likes to think hes alot harder than he really is.

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #48 on:** November 05, 2006, 06:51:59 AM »

Quote from: dragonheart on November 04, 2006, 06:34:28 PM

haha, look what else he posted in that thread on genxxl.

From the Bguns quotes in this post I have deduced he is a jackass. Drinks 5 days a week and gets crazy drunk watching football

Sounds like a little frat boy who just found out about getting drunk in his buddies parent's basement. Cant beleive he juices, this has to be a gimick from someone who disslikes the guy in the pics....... please tell me it is?

blondmusclhunk · « **Reply #49 on:** November 09, 2006, 01:10:24 PM »

I would never guessed he did steroids or even worked out hard. I am 25 and just started juicing a little over a year ago and have had awesome gains. Dont know what this guy has done wrong except diet must be horrible or he just really isnt working out. I know other guys who juice and work out less intense then me and have had gains. There are two guys in their mid 30's I know who have juiced regularly for 10 years. And look great. Your right this is a disgrace!! I do see guys though at the gym who will go do a set here and their look fat and think they are a body builder go figure.