BrianX would pass out, and go into a seizure doing them like that.Ron couldn't do 185 like that.
Ron couldn't do 185 like that.prob not..... which is pretty sad.
this is how you really handle 225, not the half reps almost standing up that you do,&NR
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha
Squadfather - you are obsessed with me.
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahahaHes obsessed with all things bigger than him with a penis
Squadfather - you are obsessed with me.
brutal 15 inch armed most muscular,I dont know this dude david but come on man hes in great shape period.. dont hate on the man..Who cares if hes natural or not..
btw do u actually think people believe u are 100% natural?
I dont know this dude david but come on man hes in great shape period.. dont hate on the man..Who cares if hes natural or not..
yeah i know what u mean, sometimes the h8er just comes out of me,PUSSY DONT SAY SORRY BITCH.........
sorry ron, u look great there props.
the brutal 15 inch arm remark was toungue in cheek though.
Ron,like you 145 pounds of skin and bones
What do you look like Natural?
Ron,
What do you look like Natural?
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha
Squadfather - you are obsessed with me.
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha
Squadfather - you are obsessed with me.
Hey Ron...hey eat a nice beaf sammich for me ;D.....hey did you use to workout at usa gym?
I'm hitting shoulders tonite. How does one STRETCH shoulders in a DC way? Is it the same as 'ballistic stretching'? How do you DC a shoulder session? Are you at liberty to outline a basic plan here? Mr.Dante won't mind...me and him are dear friends.
I'm done guys. Some of you love to keep going back and forth with your "brutal, epic, pwned" crap, but I need to get to work. Have fun!look good man keep it up..
hey eat a nice beaf sammich for me ;D.....hey did you use to workout at usa gym?Once in a while. When his gym was down the street in the bigger location. It's now in a smaller location but I do have to go there tomorrow to pick something up.
Hey Ron...
I'm hitting shoulders tonite. How does one STRETCH shoulders in a DC way? Is it the same as 'ballistic stretching'? How do you DC a shoulder session? Are you at liberty to outline a basic plan here? Mr.Dante won't mind...me and him are dear friends.
Hmmm...
Okay so I'm gonna stretch the shit out of my delts...take about 5-10 minutes in actively stretching. Then I'm going to start with Smith Machine Front presses.
Here's what a warmup would be like...plate a side for 10 reps...wait 60 seconds and stretch again...same weight for another 10. Focus on negative. Stretch again for a minute...plate and 25 a side...10 reps.
1st set 2 plates a side...10 quality reps. Now 2 plates and 25 and a 5 a side...with a spotter with fingers on my elbows I will try to get 5 on my own with 2-3 fingertap ever so slight tap on the way up kind of spot. Then I'll rack it count to 20 and hit 3 more...rack it count to 15 and do 2-3 more...rack it count to 15 and do 2 more.
I'll have my partner strip off the 25 and 5 off each side and I'll do 3 negative reps with 2 plates a side...8-10 second negative on each rep.
Now take 2-3 minutes and stretch moderately again...then it's Nautilus laterals...60lbs for 8 reps(warmup) then I'll go with 100lbs for 10-12 reps, focus on the negative.
Take 2 minutes and my final will be 130lbs for 7-9 quality reps and set it down...count to 20 and do 4-5 more...set it down count to 15 do 2-3 more set it down count to 10 and do 2 more. Then I'll count to 5 and do as many quater reps as I can until I can no longer do anymore...pure utter failure beyond a shadow of a doubt.
How's that, natural_al? Ron?
Okay I get it...
You grow consistently doing it like that?
this is how you really handle 225, not the half reps almost standing up that you do,&NR
Aint no thang...
Mr. Dante also reccomends moderate cardio even in an 'offseason', right?
I'm trying to get in the habit of 20 minutes of mild-moderate cardio POST workout and 30-40 moderate cardio in the am before bfast 2wice a week.
Interesting...so he reccomends cardio in the am and weights in the afternoon?
I don't train till 8pm. How do I swing that...I should have some carbs post workout(9:30).
Off days I can follow the cutoff etc...
Is upping the fats reccomended when carbs are cut or faded out? Like Omegas, fishoil etc?
Cardio every off training day--if you lift 4 days a week you do cardio on your 3 off days---if you lift 3 days a week, cardio on your 4 off days.
You either lift or you do cardio on any given day.
(thats a basic start of things and it gets kind of worked out on an individual basis if more or less is needed...but thats a basic start)
well, looks like i need to reread the old log, sorry bout that. I didn't give out wrong info on purpose......
Yeah, shouldn't he pause for a full second at the bottom to totally eliminate momentum, go all the way up, and get a slower, more controlled negative?i never claimed to press 315 for even one let alone 10 "big guy", i can currently do 225 for 5 below my chin, BTW absloutely massive arms and traps in that "most muscular" shot. ::)
Steve is without doubt stronger than I am. He is also 265 pounds to my 225.
Squadfather, I am waiting for your lifting videos so I can critique! I want to see you do that press with 315 for 10 perfect reps.
i never claimed to press 315 for even one let alone 10 "big guy", i can currently do 225 for 5 below my chin, BTW absloutely massive arms and traps in that "most muscular" shot. ::)thats some good wieght...i can only do 205 for 6 ish ...
thats some good wieght...i can only do 205 for 6 ish ...that's damn good as well, there's not much difference in mine and yours lifts.
I'll see what I can do...should be a respectable amount since I was up to the 105s for dumbbells with minimal spotting if any, for at least a decent working set. But what benefit is there in going below parallel on the military press?paying a doctor and therapist for the ensuing injuries are the only benefits that come from that ....
that's damn good as well, there's not much difference in mine and yours lifts.free or on the smith machine
paying a doctor and therapist for the ensuing injuries are the only benefits that come from that ....I cant believe this im 100% in agreement, i would never go down that far to the chin then up again ,when you go lower you also take the tension off the muscle..
Matt C your shoulders are a bit overpowering, maybe you should change it up ..jmho
I'll see what I can do...should be a respectable amount since I was up to the 105s for dumbbells with minimal spotting if any, for at least a decent working set. But what benefit is there in going below parallel on the military press?the benefit is that you build bigger shoulders and actual strength.
the benefit is that you build bigger shoulders and actual strength.how would you know 225 max hahahahahahahahahaa
how would you know 225 max hahahahahahahahahaai know man i'm weak as hell, i mean EVERYONE barbell shoulder press 225 for 5 seated. ::)
What about the potential for rotator cuff injury though? To be honest, I had traditionally always done them all the way down, but recently a friend of mine who was training for football said parallel is adequate. Just something I've been thinking about lately.i don't think partial reps are ever "adequate".
Yes, this is true and it would just make my physique more imbalanced to develop them further. I do want to get all my max lifts on youtube eventually though, after all my instructional clips are up.
Post a video clip of this alleged 225-pound press or else you are full of shit. For that matter, post even one posing shot. You won't. I triple dog dare you.i'm only 113lbs. Ron. :-*
"I have nothing to prove - I'm twice a big as Ronnie and Jay put together hahahahahaha."
Until I see pics or a video, I am convinced you are 14 years old and 120 pounds, hiding behind your keyboard and snickering behind your braces at how you've got GetBig fooled into believing you are some juiced-up beast.
Post a video clip of this alleged 225-pound press or else you are full of shit. For that matter, post even one posing shot. You won't. I triple dog dare you.
"I have nothing to prove - I'm twice a big as Ronnie and Jay put together hahahahahaha."
Until I see pics or a video, I am convinced you are 14 years old and 120 pounds, hiding behind your keyboard and snickering behind your braces at how you've got GetBig fooled into believing you are some juiced-up beast.
bump time.
so let me ask you a question and lets be honest. I didn't watch all the vids but I'll take your word for it and assume they're not full reps. Ron is pretty good for a natural guy, I think you'd agree with that. If what he's doing is working for him then what's the problem? Why are you so worked up about everybodies claims and thier form?in those "posing" pictures he's ripped but that's all, he has no size or thickness except for in the legs which coincidentally enough is the only bodypart he does full reps on, in the ripped shots his arms look 15 inches and his delts, traps, chest and back all look small.
in those "posing" pictures he's ripped but that's all, he has no size or thickness except for in the legs which coincidentally enough is the only bodypart he does full reps on, in the ripped shots his arms look 15 inches and his delts, traps, chest and back all look small.
I think he looks fine for being natural, why is it you'll say TA is so incredible and how he has such great development but won't give anybody else any props?i give a lot of people "props" but Ron is full of himself and he's not big at all, i don't understand all these guys with mediocre lifts and half reps posting all their stuff on youtube, i mean are some of these videos amazing to anyone who has ben around a gym for any period of time? the funniest thing is the way the guy poses after every set, what would you think if you saw that in the gym?
Did you just copy and paste that from another post you already made?nope not even close, sounds like you're trying to divert attention away from the points i'm making, why do you do half reps? why do you pose your smooth 15 inch arms and 41 inch chest after every set?
i give a lot of people "props" but Ron is full of himself and he's not big at all, i don't understand all these guys with mediocre lifts and half reps posting all their stuff on youtube, i mean are some of these videos amazing to anyone who has ben around a gym for any period of time? the funniest thing is the way the guy poses after every set, what would you think if you saw that in the gym?
in a way i feel sorry for Ron because i think he's trying to be like Kuclo and Harris and other pros with huge size but there's no way he can keep up with them as far as poundages and size go so he tries to use the same weight they do but only gets half and quarter reps, he's trying to hang with the big boys when he isn't one.
I think he looks fine for being natural, why is it you'll say TA is so incredible and how he has such great development but won't give anybody else any props?He is NOT natural in that pic! Ron can confirm.
Once in a while. When his gym was down the street in the bigger location. It's now in a smaller location but I do have to go there tomorrow to pick something up.yeah that was back in the early 90's....yeah the chalk thing is funny since alot of guys wear their muddy boots in there :-\
As hardcore as Chucks gym is...he doesn't allow chalk use. Weird, huh?
Yeah, shouldn't he pause for a full second at the bottom to totally eliminate momentum, go all the way up, and get a slower, more controlled negative?
Steve is without doubt stronger than I am. He is also 265 pounds to my 225.
Squadfather, I am waiting for your lifting videos so I can critique! I want to see you do that press with 315 for 10 perfect reps.
I'm trying to put together a new training method anyone want to helpI just started to rinse my burgers before i eat them, and it seems to be working.
Thinking about calling it SHITBOWLCRAPP TRAINING
Who's in?
in a way i feel sorry for Ron because i think he's trying to be like Kuclo and Harris and other pros with huge size but there's no way he can keep up with them as far as poundages and size go so he tries to use the same weight they do but only gets half and quarter reps, he's trying to hang with the big boys when he isn't one.
Yes, this is the impression I'm gettin to. He needs to drop the ego, cut the weight by at least a 1/3 and do some quality reps.you'll never convince him of that, he's obsessed with being like the big boys.
you'll never convince him of that, he's obsessed with being like the big boys.
That and he'll give you some shit like, "look at my ripped physique....how can you deny the results?" Then he flexes one of his monster 14" capguns.hahahahaha, i love the way he has so much pride in that massive 186lb. "physique", i'd be laughing my ass off if i saw him flexing in the gym.
hahahahaha, i love the way he has so much pride in that massive 186lb. "physique", i'd be laughing my ass off if i saw him flexing in the gym.
again squadfather...i want a pic of you ala pazuzu first ..then a video so we can see how great YOUR form is...pazuzu by the way..your delts look really good..you definetely did your homework, and also your conditioning is excellent.
i know man i'm weak as hell, i mean EVERYONE barbell shoulder press 225 for 5 seated. ::)255 FOR 7 YEA YOUR WEAK ...AND YOU TALK THE MOST SHIT ..
255 FOR 7 YEA YOUR WEAK ...AND YOU TALK THE MOST SHIT ..And since ive never lied about my lifts or size since ive posted my pics the last 2 reps are with a spot forced reps..so 5 clean
255 FOR 7 YEA YOUR WEAK ...AND YOU TALK THE MOST SHIT ..255! wow you're strong!
255 FOR 7 YEA YOUR WEAK ...AND YOU TALK THE MOST SHIT ..i don't believe you, you don't look like you press that much.
i don't believe you, you don't look like you press that much.
Like you DO look like you can press that much? ::)
Sarcasm is a bright kid, he just doesn't apply himself in class.
DarthMuscle, crawl back into your hole like the little chickenshit coward you are and shut the f**k up. You seem to think you have a place on this board.
186 pounds, hmm - funny how I have competed in the NPC in the Men's Open Heavyweight class all these times - guess you don't know shit about weight classes, because you have to be OVER 198 1/4 pounds in contest condition to be a heavyweight.of course you were Ron, i'll bet they were all in awe of your brutal 15 inch arms too.
2002 NPC New England 2nd, Men’s HW
2003 NPC Orange County (CA) 2nd, Men’s LH
2003 NPC MA State 2nd, Men’s HW
2003 NPC Northeast 2nd, Men’s HW
Tournament of Champions
2004 NPC MA State 3rd, Men’s HW
2004 NPC Northeast 4th, Men’s HW
Tournament of Champions
2005 NPC New England 2nd, Men’s HW
And just so you know, in the Northeast Tournament and MA State shows, there is no Super-heavy class, so I was up against guys as heavy as 250 pounds.
BrianX would pass out, and go into a seizure doing them like that.
This coming from a guy who claims he can military press 365 for reps. ::)bow flex doesn't go that heavy
shoulder press with 225lbs....big fcuking deal ::)from looking at your pictures with Triple H you don't look like you can press that.
from looking at your pictures with Triple H you don't look like you can press that.
that's not what i said, i said that from looking at your size i would doubt that you could do it, no need for you to get nasty about it.
naturally any wimp can do 225lbs bozo. go ahead and try it, you might like it
that's not what i said, i said that from looking at your size i would doubt that you could do it, no need for you to get nasty about it.
Mariusz is 275 and you look 70 lbs. less than him in your gansta wannabe size 3xl on a size L body football jersey, sorry but that's the truth.
I was 225lbs back then, here I am standing next to a 300lbs beast, I'll let you imagine how much I weigh in this pic. with good form, I manage 9 behind the neck press with 225lbs. this dude is doing front press. apparently, we know the difference between front and back press. don't we?
Mariusz is 275 and you look 70 lbs. less than him in your gansta wannabe size 3xl on a size L body football jersey, sorry but that's the truth.
Old boy, of course there is no need, but for christs sake, these are sub 80 IQ coons we are dealing with, the lowest of the human species, lav scrapings no less
Its all a guy[/color] can do but chimp out when flustered
Just acknowledge it as the superior white man you are, and move on
Carefull coon, you might cut yourself on your rapier like sub 80 IQ
You live in the whitemans world, the cradle of civilization.. well, it was fine until the kikes let you and your niggerdly horde in
Now, golly, here is where you claim Africa was the zenith of human society, and still would be, if only you hadnt been held back for 3000 years by the nasty whiteman
Fucking clueless blacks, you truly are the shit on the jackboot of humankind, fuck you, and your jew puppetmaster
wog scumfucks
bongo lover
not another arian brother...juicy..why are u on this board?...
Don't you have to give Roger Federer another tennis lesson today?
That was pretty good form despite the knuckle heads saying it wasn't. He could have gone all the way down to touch the top of his chest but that was really impressive. Remember the smaller the range of motion the more weight you can lift. Small egos do short strokes to handle heavy weights.exactly.
Small egos do short strokes to handle heavy weights.this is very true