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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 10, 2006, 08:13:47 PM
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Holy shit. Stan's in trouble.
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Holy shit. Stan's in trouble.
huh, I never knew stan was a contenda
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Too bad there is no one named Stan McQuary competing.
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huh, I never knew stan was a contenda
No he just made the first call out.
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freak :o
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Trouble is right. Me and him go way back to the good old days of Golds Gym. We used to train together and I tell you what, even when I was juicing at the time I barely keep up with him. He trains like a maddog straight from hell. Hits nothing but free weights, very rarely uses a machine.....very rarely. He uses no synthol, has no implants, no fancy supplements. He eats, sleeps, and trains.
I came down to the gym he works at in May and we joked around about those days. He was 2nd last year but he told me that he was going to bring the pain like never before.
Now this is a most muscular!!!! Take notes folks
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No he just made the first call out.
Thats what I thought ::)
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No he just made the first call out.
So did Charles. Stan's going to have to earn his pay
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vince can he help you get in shape for your next show?
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I never would have thought you ever juiced Vince ??? No offense but you look like you were natural in those contest pics??? Lets see a pic of you juiced up in the "good old days". 8)
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No shit. Thats what I said Stan is in troulbe. Maybe political?
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I never would have thought you ever juiced Vince ??? No offense but you look like you were natural in those contest pics??? Lets see a pic of you juiced up in the "good old days". 8)
I haven't used since 2001. I put some pictures up but I have no bodybuilding pictures because I didn't care about it at the time in the 90's. I mainly juiced for my work as a corrections officer and bouncer at the time.
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Based on the call-outs, it's my old training partner Kurt McLean duking it out with Stan and Charles for the top 3. Kurt could use some help with his posing but he's got the best back in the show. Holla Gold's Brooklyn!
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06nationals/pre05/images/FDBE0874.jpg)
Special "Boro Hall" Ed
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Based on the call-outs, it's my old training partner Kurt McLean duking it out with Stan and Charles for the top 3. Kurt could use some help with his posing but he's got the best back in the show. Holla Gold's Brooklyn!
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06nationals/pre05/images/FDBE0874.jpg)
Special "Boro Hall" Ed
Forgot about Kurt, yeah his back is crazy looking. Ripped to pieces in fact.
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Strange how his abs disappear when relaxed...
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vince can you make me a training video? how much?
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Vince, I was at the show and your buddy DESERVES the class!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No fuckin doubt, and i do know what I'm talking about. He is very well balanced, very good muscularity with acceptable hardness and crispness. Stan is a good bodybuilder but should not win this show...hams way too smooth and legs are way too light for the upper half. His upper does have good balance and is nice and crisp, but Nationals BB is the total package and Vince's friend should take the class. My friend, Mike yablon is doing very good as well and will be in the top 4, I believe. His torso is dry as a bone and thick and grainy. Glutes and hams came in very good and as good as I believed they would. Quads dried out good. Overall, I think the other guy in the top 3 (from Brookln) may be a bit too light although totally shredded. Not sure how top 3 will turn out. Also an friend of mine TJ Hewitt looks really good!!!! Very thick and dense muscle with real good conditioning. Legs are light but real dry. TJ is 53 and looks tremendous.....no age signs even remotely close EXCEPT more mature muscle.
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Trouble is right. Me and him go way back to the good old days of Golds Gym. We used to train together and I tell you what, even when I was juicing at the time I barely keep up with him. He trains like a maddog straight from hell. Hits nothing but free weights, very rarely uses a machine.....very rarely. He uses no synthol, has no implants, no fancy supplements. He eats, sleeps, and trains.
I came down to the gym he works at in May and we joked around about those days. He was 2nd last year but he told me that he was going to bring the pain like never before.
Now this is a most muscular!!!! Take notes folks
YOU WERE NOT, training with this guy. EVER.
Do you want me to embarrass you again and have him on camera saying that he has no fucking clue who you are?
Please say yes.
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Dude has a lot of muscles but funky ugly physique. PLus he can't pose for shyt. Not impressed.
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Vince, I was at the show and your buddy DESERVES the class!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No fuckin doubt, and i do know what I'm talking about. He is very well balanced, very good muscularity with acceptable hardness and crispness. Stan is a good bodybuilder but should not win this show...hams way too smooth and legs are way too light for the upper half. His upper does have good balance and is nice and crisp, but Nationals BB is the total package and Vince's friend should take the class. My friend, Mike yablon is doing very good as well and will be in the top 4, I believe. His torso is dry as a bone and thick and grainy. Glutes and hams came in very good and as good as I believed they would. Quads dried out good. Overall, I think the other guy in the top 3 (from Brookln) may be a bit too light although totally shredded. Not sure how top 3 will turn out. Also an friend of mine TJ Hewitt looks really good!!!! Very thick and dense muscle with real good conditioning. Legs are light but real dry. TJ is 53 and looks tremendous.....no age signs even remotely close EXCEPT more mature muscle.
Funny thing is that he's only done 5 bodybuilding shows and his first show was in 2003. His secret to his physique is his overall willpower and determination. He truly loves training and working out and helping people meet their goals. He gets a lot of business at Pivitol Fitness and its really because of his personality.
I learned at lot from him over the years and he knows his stuff from A to Z. He's going to make a great IFBB pro. I just hope he doesn't get snubbed like last year due to name recognition because he should have won last year.
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YOU WERE NOT, training with this guy. EVER.
Do you want me to embarrass you again and have him on camera saying that he has no fucking clue who you are?
Please say yes.
Actually, you're more than welcome to do so, TA. Just use my name Melvin when you do. Like I said, me and Charles go way way way wayyyyyyyy back. However, since word has spread quickly that you're a Neo Nazi as well as your writings about "steroid using bodybuilders", you may not get a warm reception...... ;D BTW, love the fact that you practically hid behind Johnny and kissed Branch Warren's ass.
I'd recommend you spend more time training for your fight against Derek Anthony. He may be a stripper but he's crazy and practically dwarfs your skinny ass.
Honestly you have a lot of people waiting in line to kick your ass. Do you not realize the errors of your ways. No one like you pal and if I ever ran into you, I 'll be more than happy to carry out the people's wishes
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I haven't used since 2001. I put some pictures up but I have no bodybuilding pictures because I didn't care about it at the time in the 90's. I mainly juiced for my work as a corrections officer and bouncer at the time.
Vince you are 29 years old. you say back in the good ol days. When did you first go to the gym (if you have yet) back when you were born. Please post up any pics of you on roids. And you better hope that guy doesn't catch you using his name. I am pretty sure he wouldn't want to be associated with you. And driving by the gym when he is training doesn't count as you trained with him. Hope this helps.
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Dude has a lot of muscles but funky ugly physique. PLus he can't pose for shyt. Not impressed.
Who are you talking about?
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Vince you are 29 years old. you say back in the good ol days. When did you first go to the gym (if you have yet) back when you were born. Please post up any pics of you on roids. And you better hope that guy doesn't catch you using his name. I am pretty sure he wouldn't want to be associated with you. And driving by the gym when he is training doesn't count as you trained with him. Hope this helps.
Vince is onyl 29 years old :o Bee pollen must have aged him
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Who are you talking about?
You're an idiot. Take a look at the thread title and you'll know who I'm talking about. Stop asking silly questions.
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Actually, you're more than welcome to do so, TA. Just use my name Melvin when you do. Like I said, me and Charles go way way way wayyyyyyyy back. However, since word has spread quickly that you're a Neo Nazi as well as your writings about "steroid using bodybuilders", you may not get a warm reception...... ;D BTW, love the fact that you practically hid behind Johnny and kissed Branch Warren's ass.
I'd recommend you spend more time training for your fight against Derek Anthony. He may be a stripper but he's crazy and practically dwarfs your skinny ass.
Honestly you have a lot of people waiting in line to kick your ass. Do you not realize the errors of your ways. No one like you pal and if I ever ran into you, I 'll be more than happy to carry out the people's wishes
For your information,
I HATE Neo-Nazis. To me, they are the dumbest people and have no idea about the history of Germany. They even try to represent Christianity when Christians were next to be thrown in the oven. Its amusing when these half-wits march around spewing hate.
What is funny, is that Hitler held no ill will at all toward Blacks whatsoever. Remember when Jesse Owens went to Berlin and one 4 Gold Medals.
Here read this GERMANS RESPECTED BLACK PEOPLE WAY BEFORE AMERICA EVER DID:
Owens was cheered enthusiastically by 110,000 people in Berlin's Olympic Stadium and later ordinary Germans sought his autograph when they saw him in the streets. Although had he lived in Germany, he would have been barred from citizenship under the Reich Citizenship Law of September 15, 1935 "§2 1. A Reich citizen is a subject of the State who is of German or related blood, who proves by his conduct that he is willing and fit faithfully to serve the German people and Reich." Nevertheless, Owens was allowed to travel with and stay in the same hotels as whites, an irony at the time, since Africans in the United States were denied equal rights. After a New York ticker-tape parade in his honor, Owens had to ride the freight elevator to attend a reception for him at the Waldorf-Astoria. He later recounted:
When I came back to my native country, after all the stories about Hitler, I couldn't ride in the front of the bus. I had to go to the back door. I couldn't live where I wanted. I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either.
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Trivia
Running in Berlin, Owens (like most of the athletes) wore track shoes made by Gebrüder Dassler Schuhfabrik, a German firm. The company later split in two, becoming Adidas and PUMA.
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But Jesse Owens' reception by the German public and the spectators in the Olympic stadium was warm. There were German cheers of “Yesseh Oh-vens” or just “Oh-vens” from the crowd. Owens was a true celebrity in Berlin, mobbed by autograph seekers to the point that he complained about all the attention. He later claimed that his reception in Berlin was greater than any other he had ever experienced, and he was quite popular even before the Olympics.
The Snub Myth
Hitler did shun a black American athlete at the 1936 Games, but it wasn't Jesse Owens. On the first day of the Olympics, just before Cornelius Johnson, an African American althlete who won the first gold medal for the U.S. that day, was to receive his award, Hitler left the stadium early. Prior to his departure, Hitler had received a number of winners, but Olympic officials informed the German leader that in the future he must receive all of the winners or none at all. After the first day, he opted to acknowledge none. Jesse Owens had his victories on the second day, when Hitler was no longer in attendance.
Ironically, the real snub of Owens came from his own president. Even after ticker-tape parades for Owens in New York City and Cleveland, President Franklin D. Roosevelt never publicly acknowledged Owens' achievements (gold in the 100 meter, 200 meter, 400 meter relay, and long jump). Owens was never invited to the White House and never even received a letter of congratulations from the president. Almost two decades passed before another American president, Dwight D. Eisenhower, honored Owens by naming him “Ambassador of Sports” — in 1955.
One reason the Hitler snub myth is so hard to kill is that Owens himself, after initial attempts to set the record straight, started telling the story himself. He grew tired of trying to deny a tale that the American press had erroneously reported widely and that had taken on a life of its own. Would Hitler have snubbed Owens if he had been in the stadium on day two? Perhaps. But since he wasn't there, he didn't.
Some True Jesse Owens Stories
For his Berlin wins, Owens was wearing track shoes made by the Gebrüder Dassler Schuhfabrik, a German company. The Dassler brothers later split into two firms, known as Adidas and Puma.
In 1984, the Berlin street known as Stadionallee (Stadium boulevard), south of the Olympic stadium in Charlottenburg, was renamed Jesse-Owens-Allee. Owens' widow Ruth and his three daughters attended the dedication ceremonies on March 10 as guests of the German government.
The Jesse-Owens-Realschule/Oberschule (secondary school) is in Berlin-Lichtenberg.
Despite his stardom, Owens received no scholarship money from Ohio State University. He had to work as an elevator operator, waiter, and gas station attendent to support himself and his wife.
Two U.S. postage stamps have been issued to honor Owens, one in 1990 and another in 1998.
Jesse Owens was born in Danville, Alabama on Sept. 12, 1913. His family moved to Cleveland when he was nine. In 1949 the Owens settled in Chicago. His grave is in Chicago's Oak Woods Cemetery.
Owens became a heavy smoker following his athletic days. He died of lung cancer in Phoenix, Arizona on March 31, 1980.
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Vince you are 29 years old. you say back in the good ol days. When did you first go to the gym (if you have yet) back when you were born. Please post up any pics of you on roids. And you better hope that guy doesn't catch you using his name. I am pretty sure he wouldn't want to be associated with you. And driving by the gym when he is training doesn't count as you trained with him. Hope this helps.
You're talking out of your ass pal. The good old days is the times we had at Gold's Gym that's no more. It was a hardcore gym at the time, owner had respect for bodybuilders and didn't ask questions or yell at us for grunting and other B.S. Walls had a Dorian Yates poster will "Rerack your Weights" It may have been 8 years ago but its ancient history now. The gym eventually went metro and this closed down in 2004.
And yes I did train with him a few times or at least put my best effort to keep up with him because he trains extremely heavy. Honestly, you and him would problably get along just fine.
Now do me a favor, Keith and lets not jam up this thread with this dribble. This thread isn't about me.
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You see Vince,
Germans Loved Black people and Hitler had a tough time trying to figure out why the Americans treated blacks so poorly.
Blacks could have a better life, even reach stardom and be revered in Nazi Germany, but be reduced to nothing in America.
You need a history lesson and you better re think your fucking comments about me in the future.
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Vince boils his doo doo and eats it with hot sauce and chitlins.
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You see Vince,
Germans Loved Black people and Hitler had a tough time trying to figure out why the Americans treated blacks so poorly.
Blacks could have a better life, even reach stardom and be revered in Nazi Germany, but be reduced to nothing in America.
You need a history lesson and you better re think your fucking comments about me in the future.
I was already aware of "The Jesse Owens Story".
However, I would seriously doubt that we would have had a better life in Germany. The ones that actually lived there were thrown into concentration camps along the Jews, Gypsies, Polish, & Gays and Lesbian, and anyone else who wasn't Aryan Blood.
Also I'm not going to get into whether you're a Nazi or whatever. You're a racist loser of the Mr Getbig contest and your rants and picture of your adornment of Nazi garb is enough proof.
Now please post this crap on someone elses thread.
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Adonis....
Hitler believed Negros to be subhuman and not fit to have the right to live. Thats where the challenge came from....to prove the Arian race was superior and that blacks or any other race for that matter where nothing but animals. He had the greatist disdain for Jews even though he had Jewish blood in him.
He thought blacks were subhuman and that the white race was the master race that was better and greater in strength and speed than any other race
Jesse Owens proved that notion about the master race false.
Hitler was evil incarnate ...
As for you, Vince...im surprised you didnt learn jack from your friend....I have a hard time believing you trained with him
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Adonis....
Hitler believed Negros to be subhuman and not fit to have the right to live. Thats where the challenge came from....to prove the Arian race was superior and that blacks or any other race for that matter where nothing but animals. He had the greatist disdain for Jews even though he had Jewish blood in him.
He thought blacks were subhuman and that the white race was the master race that was better and greater in strength and speed than any other race
Jesse Owens proved that notion about the master race false.
Hitler was evil incarnate ...
As for you, Vince...im surprised you didnt learn jack from your friend....I have a hard time believing you trained with him
You are wrong.
Germans respected Blacks and blacks could do everything that whites could in Germany. Unlike the United States.
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vince can you make me a training DVD? ill pay 40$.
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I didnt say germans....I said Hitler...he would have made Germany hate blacks altogether. He was a great manipulator
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Adonis....
Hitler believed Negros to be subhuman and not fit to have the right to live. Thats where the challenge came from....to prove the Arian race was superior and that blacks or any other race for that matter where nothing but animals. He had the greatist disdain for Jews even though he had Jewish blood in him.
He thought blacks were subhuman and that the white race was the master race that was better and greater in strength and speed than any other race
Jesse Owens proved that notion about the master race false.
Hitler was evil incarnate ...
As for you, Vince...im surprised you didnt learn jack from your friend....I have a hard time believing you trained with him
I did train with him however what I learned from him but his training routine wasn't anything special actually. It was more or less being determined to succeed on any goals I set out to do is what I learned from him. He told me a long time ago he was going to be up there with the folks in the magazines and that he was going to do what he had to do to get there.
Like I said, he's going to make a great pro.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//0060959614/ref=cm_aya_asin.title/002-5750546-8108002
Here is a good book to read.
He lived like a Prince in Germany as did many Black families.
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(http://www.efdeportes.com/efd13/jheged2.jpg)
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charles dixon looks alot like caprioese murray. great physique. vince wyhen is it your turn to go pro?
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Hans lived a simple, but happy childhood with his loving mother, Bertha Nikodijevic. Hans' father, Al-Haj Massaquoi, was a law student in Dublin who only occasionally lived with the family at the consul general home in Hamburg. Eventually, the consul general was recalled to Liberia, and Hans and his mother remained in Germany.
The daily life of little Hans was quite remarkable. He was one of the few black children in Nazi Germany, and like all the other kids his age, he dreamed of joining the Hitler Youth. Increasingly, he realized the true nature of Nazism. His skin color made him a target for racist abuse.
However, in contrast to German Jews or German Roma, Hans—as a German Negro—was not persecuted. He was "just" a second-class citizen, which was actually a blessing in disguise. During World War II, his "impurity" spared him from being drafted into the German army. As unemployment, hunger and poverty grew rampant, he even tried to enlist, but he was rejected by the officers.
In 1947 Hans was able to visit Liberia, and was fascinated and shocked by its raw, rural nature. He grew estranged from his father Al-Haj, who left his mother and who came across as arrogant and tyrannical.
After that, he immigrated to the United States. He served two years in the army as a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne Division. With his GI bill he studied journalism at the University of Illinois followed by a career at Jet magazine and then Ebony magazine, where he became managing editor.
Over the years he has visited Germany many times. He states it is still his homeland.
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A picture may be worth a thousand words, but the photograph taken in 1933 of a brown-skinned boy wearing a swastika in a schoolyard in Hamburg, Germany, does not begin to tell the story of the remarkable life of Hans J. Massaquoi. Mr. Massaquoi, former managing editor of Ebony magazine, has now told the story himself in his new book, Destined to Witness: Growing Up Black in Nazi Germany.
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A picture may be worth a thousand words, but the photograph taken in 1933 of a brown-skinned boy wearing a swastika in a schoolyard in Hamburg, Germany, does not begin to tell the story of the remarkable life of Hans J. Massaquoi. Mr. Massaquoi, former managing editor of Ebony magazine, has now told the story himself in his new book, Destined to Witness: Growing Up Black in Nazi Germany.
you learn something new everyday
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This one is for you Vince
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Colin Powell, in his autobiography My American Journey, wrote of his tour of duty in West Germany in 1958 that for "...black GIs, especially those out of the South, Germany was a breath of freedom--they could go where they wanted, eat where they wanted, and date whom they wanted, just like other people. The dollar was strong, the beer good, and the German people friendly..."
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Colin Powell, in his autobiography My American Journey, wrote of his tour of duty in West Germany in 1958 that for "...black GIs, especially those out of the South, Germany was a breath of freedom--they could go where they wanted, eat where they wanted, and date whom they wanted, just like other people. The dollar was strong, the beer good, and the German people friendly..."
i completley agree with you,but what the fuck does colin powell know about black people ???
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How the hell does a topic on Stan McQuary, and Charles who ever the hell end up in a debate on the finer points of Nazi Germany???
It's so ridiculous it's hysterical
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Charles looks great, much more muscular, but Stan can hold his own. Plus he can pose a lot better too.
Charles needs to learn how to pose correctly.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/galleryf/albums/album43/aay.sized.jpg)
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(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/galleryf/albums/album43/abq.sized.jpg)
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No doubt this charles guy will win. No doubt.
Stan still carries middle weight mass and not light heavy.
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A picture may be worth a thousand words, but the photograph taken in 1933 of a brown-skinned boy wearing a swastika in a schoolyard in Hamburg, Germany, does not begin to tell the story of the remarkable life of Hans J. Massaquoi. Mr. Massaquoi, former managing editor of Ebony magazine, has now told the story himself in his new book, Destined to Witness: Growing Up Black in Nazi Germany.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=106144.0;attach=117424;image)
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Adonis STFU please ,are you that stupid ???
Blacks and the Nazi Killing Fields
. Volumes have been written about the mass murder of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, the disabled and retarded, she writes. But there is virtually nothing said about the horrors that befell Blacks who were born in Germany or Black American soldiers captured and executed by the Nazis.
The "Rhineland black bastards" that Hitler railed against in Mein Kampf were among the German Blacks rounded up and brutally exterminated . They were the offspring of German women and African soldiers who remained behind after the French occupation of the Rhineland in World War 1.
The German SS infantry were given war-time orders to take no "Negro prisoners alive".
One thousand French army Senegalese soldiers were used as factory slave labourers and then executed on orders of the owner, a high-ranking Nazi.
Black prisoners of war were murdered. Reports say that on "May 4, 1944, three Colored Americans were hanged in the public square after being taken from a Budapest jail."
In Belgium, Dec. 17, 1944, eleven Black Americans were brutally executed at the hands of Nazi racists. A monument was dedicated to their honour in 1989.
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BLACKS DURING THE HOLOCAUST
The fate of black people from 1933 to 1945 in Nazi Germany and in German-occupied territories ranged from isolation to persecution, sterilization, medical experimentation, incarceration, brutality, and murder. However, there was no systematic program for their elimination as there was for Jews and other groups.
After World War I, the Allies stripped Germany of its African colonies. The German military stationed in Africa (Schutztruppen), as well as missionaries, colonial bureaucrats, and settlers, returned to Germany and took with them their racist attitudes. Separation of whites and blacks was mandated by the Reichstag (German parliament), which enacted a law against mixed marriages in the African colonies.
Following World War I and the Treaty of Versailles (1919), the victorious Allies occupied the Rhineland in western Germany. The use of French colonial troops, some of whom were black, in these occupation forces exacerbated anti-black racism in Germany. Racist propaganda against black soldiers depicted them as rapists of German women and carriers of venereal and other diseases. The children of black soldiers and German women were called “Rhineland Bastards.” The Nazis, at the time a small political movement, viewed them as a threat to the purity of the Germanic race. In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler charged that “the Jews had brought the Negroes into the Rhineland with the clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily-resulting bastardization.”
African German mulatto children were marginalized in German society, isolated socially and economically, and not allowed to attend university. Racial discrimination prohibited them from seeking most jobs, including service in the military. With the Nazi rise to power they became a target of racial and population policy. By 1937, the Gestapo (German secret state police) had secretly rounded up and forcibly sterilized many of them. Some were subjected to medical experiments; others mysteriously “disappeared.”
The racist nature of Adolf Hitler's regime was disguised briefly during the Olympic Games in Berlin in August 1936, when Hitler allowed 18 African American athletes to compete for the U.S. team. However, permission to compete was granted by the International Olympic Committee and not by the host country.
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Adonis....
Hitler believed Negros to be subhuman and not fit to have the right to live. Thats where the challenge came from....to prove the Arian race was superior and that blacks or any other race for that matter where nothing but animals. He had the greatist disdain for Jews even though he had Jewish blood in him.
He thought blacks were subhuman and that the white race was the master race that was better and greater in strength and speed than any other race
Jesse Owens proved that notion about the master race false.
Hitler was evil incarnate ...
As for you, Vince...im surprised you didnt learn jack from your friend....I have a hard time believing you trained with him
Absolutely correct Jerry. This is not up for debate. Holding an opposite belief would have you laughed out of any respected history department anywhere. There is no room for apologists or crackpots on this subject, despite any anectdotal evidence to the contrary. >:(
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charles dixon looks alot like caprioese murray. great physique. vince wyhen is it your turn to go pro?
Me and him are going completely different directions. I have one more year to wait and I'll be able to compete for a pro card in the WNBF. 2008 will make 7 years since I've used steroids. By then I should have matured my physique enough to be a viable competitor
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Me and him are going completely different directions. I have one more year to wait and I'll be able to compete for a pro card in the WNBF. 2008 will make 7 years since I've used steroids. By then I should have matured my physique enough to be a viable competitor
Good luck Vince, looking forward to compete against you ;)
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charles dixon looks alot like caprioese murray. great physique. vince wyhen is it your turn to go pro?
True That ! I thought of Capriese immediately. Stan has got a fight on his hands.
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Charles 1st
Stan 2nd
Even as good as Stan looks, he would have lost to Allin in the middleweights even if had dropped to middle weights. He is basically stuck in "no man's land". Looks great..........but needs more muscle to compete with the elite (win). He has definitely got the lines to do serious damage.
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Vince -
Got any pics of you + Charles?
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BLACKS DURING THE HOLOCAUST
The fate of black people from 1933 to 1945 in Nazi Germany and in German-occupied territories ranged from isolation to persecution, sterilization, medical experimentation, incarceration, brutality, and murder. However, there was no systematic program for their elimination as there was for Jews and other groups.
After World War I, the Allies stripped Germany of its African colonies. The German military stationed in Africa (Schutztruppen), as well as missionaries, colonial bureaucrats, and settlers, returned to Germany and took with them their racist attitudes. Separation of whites and blacks was mandated by the Reichstag (German parliament), which enacted a law against mixed marriages in the African colonies.
Following World War I and the Treaty of Versailles (1919), the victorious Allies occupied the Rhineland in western Germany. The use of French colonial troops, some of whom were black, in these occupation forces exacerbated anti-black racism in Germany. Racist propaganda against black soldiers depicted them as rapists of German women and carriers of venereal and other diseases. The children of black soldiers and German women were called “Rhineland Bastards.” The Nazis, at the time a small political movement, viewed them as a threat to the purity of the Germanic race. In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler charged that “the Jews had brought the Negroes into the Rhineland with the clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily-resulting bastardization.”
African German mulatto children were marginalized in German society, isolated socially and economically, and not allowed to attend university. Racial discrimination prohibited them from seeking most jobs, including service in the military. With the Nazi rise to power they became a target of racial and population policy. By 1937, the Gestapo (German secret state police) had secretly rounded up and forcibly sterilized many of them. Some were subjected to medical experiments; others mysteriously “disappeared.”
The racist nature of Adolf Hitler's regime was disguised briefly during the Olympic Games in Berlin in August 1936, when Hitler allowed 18 African American athletes to compete for the U.S. team. However, permission to compete was granted by the International Olympic Committee and not by the host country.
Not true my friend.
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Adonis STFU please ,are you that stupid ???
Blacks and the Nazi Killing Fields
. Volumes have been written about the mass murder of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, the disabled and retarded, she writes. But there is virtually nothing said about the horrors that befell Blacks who were born in Germany or Black American soldiers captured and executed by the Nazis.
The "Rhineland black bastards" that Hitler railed against in Mein Kampf were among the German Blacks rounded up and brutally exterminated . They were the offspring of German women and African soldiers who remained behind after the French occupation of the Rhineland in World War 1.
The German SS infantry were given war-time orders to take no "Negro prisoners alive".
One thousand French army Senegalese soldiers were used as factory slave labourers and then executed on orders of the owner, a high-ranking Nazi.
Black prisoners of war were murdered. Reports say that on "May 4, 1944, three Colored Americans were hanged in the public square after being taken from a Budapest jail."
In Belgium, Dec. 17, 1944, eleven Black Americans were brutally executed at the hands of Nazi racists. A monument was dedicated to their honour in 1989.
Blacks were NOT singled out or persecuted. That is a FACT.
You do not know your history and are relying on biased sites.
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I also remember that quote from Powell's book.
However, this thread is about bb, Stan + Charles - would u mind creating a new thread to discuss these historical issues?
Tx,
bb doc
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Vince -
Got any pics of you + Charles?
Never took away. I only trained with Charles a few times long before he even started competing. I mainly trained with my co-workers at the Police Dept private facilities. I trained at Gold's on my days off and on the weekends
Charles mainly trained with Bobby Thompson at the time as well as with Marcus Hudson. I'm not even sure who he trains with nowadays as Bobby has his on PT facility and Marcus moved to Atlanta.
I went by to visit to catch up on old time and help him put together a website for him. I actually did one but the only pictures he had was when he won the NPC Royal Cup so its basically incomplete. If he wins, he'll definitely need a much more elaborate site than I can put together for him.
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how did this thread get hijacked into an adonis and vince history lesson on racism in nazi germany?2 scefoso's.
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Vince, I don't doubt your story...but something doesn't add up. Maybe you can explain it to me
You said that you have trained with him and even up know claim that you work out, yet I cannot see any evidence of it.
I am not trying to knock you, I am just seeking answer. There are guys at my gym that started working out this summer and they are way ahead of you and they are natural
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Trouble is right. Me and him go way back to the good old days of Golds Gym. We used to train together and I tell you what, even when I was juicing at the time I barely keep up with him. He trains like a maddog straight from hell. Hits nothing but free weights, very rarely uses a machine.....very rarely. He uses no synthol, has no implants, no fancy supplements. He eats, sleeps, and trains.
I came down to the gym he works at in May and we joked around about those days. He was 2nd last year but he told me that he was going to bring the pain like never before.
Take notes folks
Vince, you should've taken notes back when you trained with charles... 8)
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Vince, I don't doubt your story...but something doesn't add up. Maybe you can explain it to me
You said that you have trained with him and even up know claim that you work out, yet I cannot see any evidence of it.
I am not trying to knock you, I am just seeking answer. There are guys at my gym that started working out this summer and they are way ahead of you and they are natural
Yes, you are knocking me and honestly I could care less about your opinion, Adonis, or anyone else's.
However, I would appreciate it if you and rest of the peanut gallery stop hijacking this thread with crap other than the subject of the thread. No-one wants to hear about the guys that train in your Turkish Bathhouse or Adonis's ramblings about Nazi Germany. So please leave
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Stan won!!! ;D
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Stan won!!! ;D
Just heard. Like I said before, name recognition is a bitch. That's bodybuilding unfortunately.
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Actually Stan has been duking it out in the MWts for a number of years now. He deserves the name recognition after being in the mix for so long.
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What? Why doesn't anybody wanna give Stan any credit. He looked dope. Now he's gonna get more mags, $$$, and remain a solid pimp.
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We used to train together and I tell you what
Why did you give up training?
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Never took away. I only trained with Charles a few times long before he even started competing. I mainly trained with my co-workers at the Police Dept private facilities. I trained at Gold's on my days off and on the weekends
Charles mainly trained with Bobby Thompson at the time as well as with Marcus Hudson. I'm not even sure who he trains with nowadays as Bobby has his on PT facility and Marcus moved to Atlanta.
I went by to visit to catch up on old time and help him put together a website for him. I actually did one but the only pictures he had was when he won the NPC Royal Cup so its basically incomplete. If he wins, he'll definitely need a much more elaborate site than I can put together for him.
VInce isn't illegal to say you were a cop when you never actually were a cop just a mall guard. Also, do you honestly think any of us believe anything you say. You have never trained with this guy so you should really quit saying so. There is not one person who would ask you for advice. Except this guy. You actually have this guy on your website saying he is one of your clients. This pic tells it all. You are horrible at any and all aspects of health and fitness. Give it up loser you are full of shit.
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Actually Stan has been duking it out in the MWts for a number of years now. He deserves the name recognition after being in the mix for so long.
Yea, Stan should have actually turned pro a few years ago in the middleweights. Its the way it works.
The good thing is that Charles should have a number of companies looking to recruit him as a sponsored athlete. Not only that, this show should give him proper name recognition since this is his second runner up finish at the Nationals. He's not going to be ignored any longer, that's for sure
Bodybuilding is a sport however its a business as well. Its good to turn pro but if you have to wait, then at least make some money.
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Yea, Stan should have actually turned pro a few years ago in the middleweights. Its the way it works.
The good thing is that Charles should have a number of companies looking to recruit him as a sponsored athlete. Not only that, this show should give him proper name recognition since this is his second runner up finish at the Nationals. He's not going to be ignored any longer, that's for sure
Bodybuilding is a sport however its a business as well. Its good to turn pro but if you have to wait, then at least make some money.
Too bad he won't be going anywhere in the Pro ranks.
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They only thing cool about Hitler is he love pills...He for sure is a guy i could party with...
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You see Vince,
Germans Loved Black people and Hitler had a tough time trying to figure out why the Americans treated blacks so poorly.
Blacks could have a better life, even reach stardom and be revered in Nazi Germany, but be reduced to nothing in America.
You need a history lesson and you better re think your fucking comments about me in the future.
Hitler sounds like a really nice guy ::) !! Shut the fuck up Adonis !!!
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VInce isn't illegal to say you were a cop when you never actually were a cop just a mall guard. Also, do you honestly think any of us believe anything you say. You have never trained with this guy so you should really quit saying so. There is not one person who would ask you for advice. Except this guy. You actually have this guy on your website saying he is one of your clients. This pic tells it all. You are horrible at any and all aspects of health and fitness. Give it up loser you are full of shit.
I didn't train the One Man Mafia. He was trained by "The Stray Cat Brodie Ray Chase". Right now he has a development contract with the WWE so I haven't heard from him in quite some time but basically if he needs any supplements, he'll give me a call and I ship them out to him at no charge. He had a back a few years ago and its a matter of returning the favor. He helped get the word out on my business when it was in its early stages to other fellow wrestlers which in turned help establish myself in the pro-wrestling industry as the man to go to for the right stuff.
He actually still has my old crappy looking banner on his website. That says a lot from him considering he's moved on to bigger and better things
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Too bad he won't be going anywhere in the Pro ranks.
Well, you never know. Stan will need to add more considerable size to fill out his frame. It depends on how far he's willing to go.
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Vince, I know everyone in the wwe developmental system. Who's your buddy, just curious.
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Vince, I know everyone in the wwe developmental system. Who's your buddy, just curious.
Mikal Adryan.
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/m/mikal-adryan.html
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I,ve never met him and don't know who he is. Has he actually received a contract or is he just another guy going to Deep South tapings hoping to get on the show or into the amatuer program?
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I don't think he has a contract. Lots of wrestlers come to Deep south for the tapings though to try to get in a match so the office may see. Hope it works out for him.
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I don't think he has a contract. Lots of wrestlers come to Deep south for the tapings though to try to get in a match so the office may see. Hope it works out for him.
No-one asked what your thought but he has an actual contract. He earned it the hard way by consistantly good work in multiple promotions and has well over 2000 matches under his belt. In fact he's wrestled a few WWE dark matches. Deep South Wrestling is one of the WWE proving grounds that they send folks with these contracts to show the office what he has.
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Vince, I hope you realize that I was an ACTUAL contracted wrestler. He isn't on the roster I know of, while I am. No need to be a wise ass, just got to tell ya I don't know him or see his name on the roster.
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Vince, I hope you realize that I was an ACTUAL contracted wrestler. He isn't on the roster I know of, while I am. No need to be a wise ass, just got to tell ya I don't know him or see his name on the roster.
Yes, you are being a wise ass because you should have asked me these questions this via P.M. You also have no right to discredit anyone whatsoever an if you are an actual contracted wrestler then you would have more respect for your fellow workers
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Yes, you are being a wise ass because you should have asked me these questions this via P.M. You also have no right to discredit anyone whatsoever an if you are an actual contracted wrestler then you would have more respect for your fellow workers
First of all, I'm telling you not to be a wise ass and NOT saying I'm not being a wise ass. Second, there is no disrespect. This is not a private matter, vince....you are talking about a guy that is a pro wrestler...definitly not a private thing here. I just asked if he has a contract or is still indy. Also, many many indy wrestlers will never get a contract and all will have wrestled hundreds of matches...I have had trainers with 20 years and no contract.
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First of all, I'm telling you not to be a wise ass and NOT saying I'm not being a wise ass. Second, there is no disrespect. This is not a private matter, vince....you are talking about a guy that is a pro wrestler...definitly not a private thing here. I just asked if he has a contract or is still indy. Also, many many indy wrestlers will never get a contract and all will have wrestled hundreds of matches...I have had trainers with 20 years and no contract.
I said sent it via P.M. because this thread isn't about him. If you have a question to ask me then ask me via P.M and if you're going to argue about it then send a P.M. I've already answered your question and it should have been left at that.
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Thats not very business like of you vince
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vince- when is it your turn to go pro?
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vince will be a pro shortly
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Stan looks way too small to be a LH winner. Charles should've won. He's much, much bigger and more ripped than Stan, anyone can see that. Stan has to be the smallest LH nationals winner in history, he looks like a tall middleweight. The judging was ludicrous. You can't win on symmetry alone, especially in a contest where the winner turns pro.
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stan was given a pro card for his loyalty and years of 'paying his dues'.
This makes the NPC strong and full of people paying dues for years.
This makes for a weak pro class. You put Charles on the heath stack for 18 months and you have a great pro. Stan will be lucky to get 9th at the NY Pro next year :( He'll compete mediocre then leave after 30 months to pursue other things. Charles will get in, two or three years from now, and what, 34-36 and too old to do much.
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Stan looks way too small to be a LH winner. Charles should've won. He's much, much bigger and more ripped than Stan, anyone can see that. Stan has to be the smallest LH nationals winner in history, he looks like a tall middleweight. The judging was ludicrous. You can't win on symmetry alone, especially in a contest where the winner turns pro.
I am agree with you totaly. Basicaly,i dont accept BBer who has weak lower Body.
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Trouble is right. Me and him go way back to the good old days of Golds Gym. We used to train together and I tell you what, even when I was juicing at the time I barely keep up with him. He trains like a maddog straight from hell. Hits nothing but free weights, very rarely uses a machine.....very rarely. He uses no synthol, has no implants, no fancy supplements. He eats, sleeps, and trains.
I came down to the gym he works at in May and we joked around about those days. He was 2nd last year but he told me that he was going to bring the pain like never before.
Now this is a most muscular!!!! Take notes folks
No VG you take notes. Your physique shows no signs of juice. Maybe your diluted opinion of yourself shows traces of DRUG use.
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Question to legbreaker. Did you ever see Venom Vince Versace around the wrestling scene? Have you heard of Melvin Goodrum, the wrestler? He claims he was a preliminary boy who was used to get the crowd stirred up. They apparently threw soda cans at him and jeered him. Surely a celebrity wrestler like Triple V couldn't have gone unnoticed?
Melvin is quick to name-drop yet has no photos to support his statements that he wrestled, was bigger when on the gear, and knew and trained with top guys. It all seems a bit bizarre. I guess funny things happen in hills of North and South Carolina.
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Question to legbreaker. Did you ever see Venom Vince Versace around the wrestling scene? Have you heard of Melvin Goodrum, the wrestler? He claims he was a preliminary boy who was used to get the crowd stirred up. They apparently threw soda cans at him and jeered him. Surely a celebrity wrestler like Triple V couldn't have gone unnoticed?
Melvin is quick to name-drop yet has no photos to support his statements that he wrestled, was bigger when on the gear, and knew and trained with top guys. It all seems a bit bizarre. I guess funny things happen in hills of North and South Carolina.
I have pictures, just haven't posted them. It was a long time ago and it was for a very very very short time. I worked a few shows and that was it. For me, it was a matter of economics. Wrestling doesn't pay the bills and I made a lot more money selling supplements and doing nutritional consulting for wrestlers.
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Question to legbreaker. Did you ever see Venom Vince Versace around the wrestling scene? Have you heard of Melvin Goodrum, the wrestler? .
No, Vince Basile, I've never heard of him or seen him in action. There are many guys though so I guess it could be true.
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Question to legbreaker. Did you ever see Venom Vince Versace around the wrestling scene? Have you heard of Melvin Goodrum, the wrestler? He claims he was a preliminary boy who was used to get the crowd stirred up. They apparently threw soda cans at him and jeered him. Surely a celebrity wrestler like Triple V couldn't have gone unnoticed?
Melvin is quick to name-drop yet has no photos to support his statements that he wrestled, was bigger when on the gear, and knew and trained with top guys. It all seems a bit bizarre. I guess funny things happen in hills of North and South Carolina.
Its also funny how you seem to leave out certain pictures. Or when you posted your new "Mountaineer Pics" thread you conveniently left out a few.
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Vince please can you show us your wrestling pictures? i need to see these pictures ;D
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here is the unretouched real picture
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here is the unretouched real picture
Synthol in his calves.
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;D
He was the clear winner. I figured Stan would place third. Charles DOMINATED Stan in evey pose. Don't get me wrong, Stan made a lot of improvements but he was clearly outmuscled and was not nearly as lean as Charles. But competing at the Nationals is more a name game than anything else.
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Stan won!!! ;D
was there and he should not have even got 2nd. maybe 3rd. rediculous. he was getting crushed in the lhw's.
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was there and he should not have even got 2nd. maybe 3rd. rediculous. he was getting crushed in the lhw's.
hmmmmm .... must have missed you
i didn't see you there
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Trouble is right. Me and him go way back to the good old days of Golds Gym. We used to train together and I tell you what, even when I was juicing at the time I barely keep up with him. He trains like a maddog straight from hell. Hits nothing but free weights, very rarely uses a machine.....very rarely. He uses no synthol, has no implants, no fancy supplements. He eats, sleeps, and trains.
I came down to the gym he works at in May and we joked around about those days. He was 2nd last year but he told me that he was going to bring the pain like never before.
Now this is a most muscular!!!! Take notes folks
"when you were juicinga t the time?"
hahaha, you are inspiration then to people to stay natural.
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Vince you beat this guy: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=736370133&n=2 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=736370133&n=2)
Wow!!! that's pretty bad
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Vince you beat this guy: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=736370133&n=2 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=736370133&n=2)
I don't know.... it's pretty close. :-\
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I am agree with you totaly. Basicaly,i dont accept BBer who has weak lower Body.
So are you saying that Stan has weak legs? Clearly that is one of his strong points. I think his upper body is actually his weak point in which he has brought up but still need bigger arms and upper body thickness. Other then that I think he would do well being a pro. But we all know that bb is all about mass :-\
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I didn't see that little arrow pointing to more images from the Mountaineer.
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Click on the images to see larger photos. Here are the others I missed. Good thing Goodrum didn't win otherwise they would have raised his hands in token of victory!
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hmmmmm .... must have missed you
i didn't see you there
We were hanging with Dexter, Curly Top, and Johnny Stewart. I'm sure Stan is a good dude, but he should have been third at best. His legs were too smooth at pre-judging.
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Click on the images to see larger photos. Here are the others I missed. Good thing Goodrum didn't win otherwise they would have raised his hands in token of victory!
Goodbum actually is comparable there to Nunamaker! :o
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I guess Vince G CSN MFT, aka Melvin Goodrum, should be campaigning strongly to have promoters and officials NOT raise the hands of winners in bodybuilding contests. I mean, that is hardly Triple V's strength and anyone with gynecomastia doesn't shine in that pose. Goodrum holds his poses with dignity but he should smile once in a while. Maybe he will smile when he actually wins one of those preliminary contests.
Melvin said he adopted the name 'Vince' after his wrestling fling. Now he says it was a very short period in his life. I guess it was traumatic enough to give him a nickname. What a pity for all Vinces that he chose that name!
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We were hanging with Dexter, Curly Top, and Johnny Stewart. I'm sure Stan is a good dude, but he should have been third at best. His legs were too smooth at pre-judging.
You were too busy running away from TA.....pussy
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Vince you beat this guy: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=736370133&n=2 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=736370133&n=2)
The guy still looks better than Goodman and poses better. Another show Vince has last place locked up
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drier then a 95 year-old hoe. :o
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The guy still looks better than Goodman and poses better. Another show Vince has last place locked up
damn you Onlyme...I always spend too much time going through a thread that is a few years old...However your threads on Vince are legendary...
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Trouble is right. Me and him go way back to the good old days of Golds Gym. We used to train together and I tell you what, even when I was juicing at the time I barely keep up with him. He trains like a maddog straight from hell. Hits nothing but free weights, very rarely uses a machine.....very rarely. He uses no synthol, has no implants, no fancy supplements. He eats, sleeps, and trains.
I came down to the gym he works at in May and we joked around about those days. He was 2nd last year but he told me that he was going to bring the pain like never before.
Now this is a most muscular!!!! Take notes folks
I'm calling Bullsh!t! You've never lifted a weight in your life!
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Vince are you still in Greenville, S.C.? Are you working for Sportsclub in Greenville and are you still selling your products at local Independent Wrestling shows?
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Nope, work as an independent trainer at a gym in Sylva. I used to train at Sportsclub.
I stopped selling at wrestling shows a long time ago. Wrestling has really not been good. The only events are benefit shows which basically people get in for free
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Yea, my friend said that he seen you selling your products at a few shows he did.
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Yea, my friend said that he seen you selling your products at a few shows he did.
Was your friend laughing when he was telling you this ;D
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Was your friend laughing when he was telling you this ;D
Yea, we were speaking on the phone and this somehow came up and he was laughing hysterically....how did you know?
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Yea, we were speaking on the phone and this somehow came up and he was laughing hysterically....how did you know?
;D lol oh its just the effect Id assume Vince would have on people :D