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Title: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: alexxx on November 15, 2006, 06:26:33 PM
This is not for me but for an elderly woman (my grandmother). She is pretty set in eating chocolats all the time. She doesn't drink much water. I guess she has a lot of stresses too.

So please list all the ways for that.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: corinth on November 15, 2006, 06:33:03 PM
If she smokes or drinks, start by quitting those.

Don't add extra salt to anything.

Exercise and try to reduce any stress.

Omega 3 fats and CQ 10 are good for cardiovascular health.

Some people simply are going to have high blood pressure no matter what they do, it can be hereditary.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: wes mantooth on November 15, 2006, 06:37:23 PM
This is not for me but for an elderly woman (my grandmother). She is pretty set in eating chocolats all the time. She doesn't drink much water. I guess she has a lot of stresses too.

So please list all the ways for that.

diet

exercise

crestor/ tricor (meds)
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: alexxx on November 15, 2006, 06:38:03 PM
If she smokes or drinks, start by quitting those.

Don't add extra salt to anything.

Exercise and try to reduce any stress.

Omega 3 fats and CQ 10 are good for cardiovascular health.

Some people simply are going to have high blood pressure no matter what they do, it can be hereditary.

Thank you. She doesn't smoke or drink but she does get a lot of sugars.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: ether on November 15, 2006, 06:39:05 PM
diet

exercise

crestor/ tricor (meds)


Crestor is a statin, dip shit. It lowers your cholesterol.

Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 15, 2006, 06:39:24 PM
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/hbp/treat/treat.htm
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Stavios on November 15, 2006, 06:40:03 PM
Some people simply are going to have high blood pressure no matter what they do, it can be hereditary.

very true, I always had high blood pressure and it sucks

not a big problem but I am always pretty red in the face especially while working out
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: wes mantooth on November 15, 2006, 06:43:49 PM

Crestor is a statin, dip shit. It lowers your cholesterol.



thanks fcuk face :)...my mistake
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Army of One on November 15, 2006, 06:45:20 PM
SYNTHOL
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: alexxx on November 15, 2006, 06:47:48 PM
very true, I always had high blood pressure and it sucks

not a big problem but I am always pretty red in the face especially while working out

Aren't you 19?
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2006, 06:49:10 PM
Try ECA.  Lots of it.  And get a job in retail.  Low-end retil.  Like Dollar General. 
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Army of One on November 15, 2006, 06:51:37 PM
Put her on a bulking diet and a gram of test a week.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2006, 06:53:08 PM
Put her on a bulking diet and a gram of test a week.

Without insulin and igf, you're wasting her fucking time.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Stavios on November 15, 2006, 06:54:10 PM
Aren't you 19?

it doesn't matter even at 14 I had high blood pressure lol
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: WiseGuy on November 15, 2006, 06:55:59 PM
This is not for me but for an elderly woman (my grandmother). She is pretty set in eating chocolats all the time. She doesn't drink much water. I guess she has a lot of stresses too.

So please list all the ways for that.

well she can pop a pill......

http://www.norvasc.com/high-blood-pressure-medicine/index.asp
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Army of One on November 15, 2006, 06:56:40 PM
Without insulin and igf, you're wasting her fucking time.

True, she can dispel any worries of High Blood Pressure when she looks in the mirror and sees this

(http://i3.tinypic.com/wkl5s4.jpg)
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2006, 07:01:03 PM
True, she can dispel any worries of High Blood Pressure when she looks in the mirror and sees this

(http://i3.tinypic.com/wkl5s4.jpg)

that healthy red glow and profuse sweating are sure signs of vitality.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 15, 2006, 07:04:02 PM
very true, I always had high blood pressure and it sucks

not a big problem but I am always pretty red in the face especially while working out

Man, I'm red in the face a lot, thats a sign of high blood pressure?
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Stavios on November 15, 2006, 07:20:16 PM
Man, I'm red in the face a lot, thats a sign of high blood pressure?

normally yes

but I am not a doctor  :)
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: XFACTOR on November 15, 2006, 07:20:25 PM
What do you guys consider high?  I have been at 135/78 for a while and I feel that is high.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: corinth on November 15, 2006, 07:21:58 PM
Man, I'm red in the face a lot, thats a sign of high blood pressure?

Yes, that is a sign...as well as headaches, dizziness and ringing in the ears are all signs of possible hbp.

Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Stavios on November 15, 2006, 07:22:45 PM
the other day I think I was something like 159/55  ???

I don't remember the exact number but it was a lot higher than the machine said it should be
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: XFACTOR on November 15, 2006, 07:23:48 PM
the other day I think I was something like 159/55  ???

I don't remember the exact number but it was a lot higher than the machine said it should be

55 that is weird that is really really low!  159 is a bit high but 55??
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Alex23 on November 15, 2006, 07:25:47 PM
This is not for me but for an elderly woman (my grandmother). She is pretty set in eating chocolats all the time. She doesn't drink much water. I guess she has a lot of stresses too.

So please list all the ways for that.

Try Hawthorne Berry  http://www.herballegacy.com/id39.htm
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: corinth on November 15, 2006, 07:26:04 PM
What do you guys consider high?  I have been at 135/78 for a while and I feel that is high.

Anything over 140/90 is considered high. Your top number is considered pre-hypertension, but keep an eye on it, it's getting close to being high, your bottom number is great.

The sweet spot as far as bp goes is 120/80, but it's ok to be a little below.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: XFACTOR on November 15, 2006, 07:29:33 PM
Anything over 140/90 is considered high. Your top number is considered pre-hypertension, but keep an eye on it, it's getting close to being high, your bottom number is great.

The sweet spot as far as bp goes is 120/80, but it's ok to be a little below.

Cool thanks.  I'm going to try that hawthorn berry as well.  Just want to make sure I control pre-hypertension.   Any of you guys try it?
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: JamieX4200 on November 15, 2006, 07:30:27 PM
take melatonin at night; read that in mens health
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Bast000 on November 15, 2006, 07:31:37 PM
will you get a decent inheritance when she kicks the bucket?
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: XFACTOR on November 15, 2006, 07:34:27 PM
will you get a decent inheritance when she kicks the bucket?

In that case 2,000 mgs decca a week and blow, lot's of blow.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Necrosis on November 15, 2006, 07:42:56 PM
for a good natural blood pressure medication have a look at the link alexx
http://www.glyconutra.biz/hyperexol.html

one year gurantee no questions asked, with no sides or contraindications and will def lower bp

as for other suggestions
celtic sea salt
celery juice is very good
lycopene
EFA's
hawthrone would be the top recommendation
increase water intake and potassium
magnesium may help
arginine as a hemodialator
garlic would definitely help
as would red yeast rice, and cq10

that is most of the naturopathic remedies you could fined, i suggest you check out the link though, very good products with big gurantees

Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Stavios on November 15, 2006, 07:59:18 PM
55 that is weird that is really really low!  159 is a bit high but 55??

yeah I found it weird too
one is too high and the other was way too low  ???
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: corinth on November 15, 2006, 08:06:04 PM
yeah I found it weird too
one is too high and the other was way too low  ???

Stavios, the 159 is definitely high and the 55 is definitely low.  Be sure to check your bp when you are calm.  It can change rapidly within minutes due to activity or stress. Try to check it several days in a row at different times and see what the average is. That's the best way to get an idea of what your actual bp is.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Eric2 on November 15, 2006, 08:50:14 PM
Ederly people in general can get high blood pressure just as a result of the aging process. sometimes medication is the only answere for some folks. nothin wrong with that either. My blood pressure was high it was 145 over 94, I drank too much beer ate too much salty food and was over weight, I was powerlifting like crazy all the time. Heavy lifting can cause elevated or spike blood pressure way up there and can cause it to stay that way for some time. I have since realized that losing weight and not lifting so much heavy weight is better for me in the long run as I would rather be around for my 3 children and live a nice long healthy life.
normal blood pressure is 120 over 80. they now say ideal is 115 over 75-80. I have lost some 25 pounds to 215 pound total weight. I can still lift good amounts, I pressed 315 for 8 no sweat. my blood pressure norm is now 107 over 72 in the morning and around 120 over 78 at night before bed or right after work.
   get an Omron wrist blood pressure monitor they work well if you are needed to monitor yourself. they run around 90 bucks. I got one on e-bay for 32. get the one with the (aps) automatic positioning sensor for accurate readings.
  also................lay off of the creatine as i feel it can raise blood pressure much like elevated salt levels can. By holding water in the body.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: DIVISION on November 15, 2006, 08:51:54 PM
This is not for me but for an elderly woman (my grandmother). She is pretty set in eating chocolats all the time. She doesn't drink much water. I guess she has a lot of stresses too.

So please list all the ways for that.

Clonidine HCL

.3MG an hour before bedtime.

Good for hypertension and also acts as a sleep aid.

She'll go right to bed and will forget all about those chocolate treats.




DIV
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: G on November 15, 2006, 09:23:40 PM
yeah I found it weird too
one is too high and the other was way too low  ???

i dont know how old are you, but I guess you under 25! For your age 159/55 is just terrible - it doesn't meter if you're juicing or not.You must start treating you BP now. You don't wanna get a stroke when you are 30 , do you?
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: G on November 15, 2006, 09:26:50 PM
Clonidine HCL

.3MG an hour before bedtime.

Good for hypertension and also acts as a sleep aid.

She'll go right to bed and will forget all about those chocolate treats.




DIV


  Clonidine HCL is great.It's also suposed to stimulate GH production if taken before sleep.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Richard2004 on November 15, 2006, 09:40:50 PM
A great way to lower your BP is to try to supplement your training by adding a monstrous drug stack to your high-calorie, muscle-mass building, dieting regimen.  Add all the AAS, GH, amphetamines, thyroid, insulin, and diuretics you can inject/ingest; just like the competitive pro. IFBB bodybuilders do!  Even inject in your veins some added synthol oil for good measure!!

Train hard, load up on these BB drugs, and bloat your bodyweight up to around 300-350 lbs.bodyweight like your pro. BB heroes...RC, JC, GS, MR, etc.!  This way you will be assured to become the picture of excellent health and be guaranteed to live a long life!!
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: DIVISION on November 15, 2006, 10:30:22 PM


  Clonidine HCL is great.It's also suposed to stimulate GH production if taken before sleep.

Correct, babyG.




DIV
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on November 15, 2006, 10:50:37 PM
Go to a reputable source.....not GetBig!

www.webmd.com
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: ether on November 16, 2006, 06:47:47 AM
Stavios, if you are in your 20's and your BP is 160 systolic, you better go see a doctor.

That is fucking high any way you cut it.

Whoever made the post, high blood pressure is normal is a jackass.

It is one of the only risk factors for cardiovascular disease that has been proven without a doubt (see the Framingham study and litterally hundreds of others if you want the proof).

55 diastolic is fine, and there have been some studies which suggest that diastolic is more important a predictor for bad outcomes than systolic but current guidelines recommend using the higher of the two.

In any case, if I was you and I was walking around with a systolic BP of 160 at your age....I would definitely do something about it.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: nycbull on November 16, 2006, 07:12:25 AM
very true, I always had high blood pressure and it sucks

not a big problem but I am always pretty red in the face especially while working out

dude high blood pressure is seriously bad. Do somtheing about it before its too late. High Blood PRessure does damage to  your liver and kidneys. Do the research, its called the silent killer. It will prematurely age you as well.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: buffbodz on November 16, 2006, 08:03:25 AM
For an all natural cure use honey and apple cider vinegar.  Lowers blood and cholesterol plus it also eases arthritis pain.  Get it at any market.  It's been used for ages and works.  My aunt swore by it and she lived till a fall @ 96!
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 16, 2006, 08:10:09 AM
The very best way to lower blood pressure is to off yourself.  Quick and guaranteed to lower it.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: jarhead on November 16, 2006, 11:53:06 AM
Have you thought about telling her you are going to kill yourself? ;D
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: 250Ben250 on November 16, 2006, 12:05:49 PM
yeah I found it weird too
one is too high and the other was way too low  ???

Did you use one of those pharmacy machines they have by the counter? Those things can throw your readings off quite a bit if you have anything larger than a 15inch arm.

I believe most MD's use a cuff that is fit for a 15inch arm, even an XL cuff is only accurate for a 17inch arm. Wrist monitors can be good as a substitute but even still its best to get several readings and take the average.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: alexxx on November 16, 2006, 03:28:34 PM
Thanks guys for all the input.

Apple cider vinegar, I gave her a teaspoon of that spoon last night and today she feels better already. I am playing closer attention to her diet and encouraging her to start training again.

Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: Alex23 on November 16, 2006, 10:38:05 PM
Thanks guys for all the input.

Apple cider vinegar, I gave her a teaspoon of that spoon last night and today she feels better already. I am playing closer attention to her diet and encouraging her to start training again.

Glad to hear that... She should do a show man... She could definitely take that guy 8)
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on November 16, 2006, 10:42:57 PM
Arginine (unless she's ever had a heart attack)
Co Q10 (120 milligrams a day, minimum, is needed to see much benefit)
540 mgs. of DHA and 360 mgs. of EPA a day (at least)
Reducing salt intake (obviously)
Avoiding things in life (is possible) which cause a whole lot of tension and stress (wouldn't we all like to do that)
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: whitewidow on November 16, 2006, 10:43:51 PM
a fat bonghit of whitewidow and your blood pressure will lower. ;)
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: VICIOUS_BEAST on November 16, 2006, 11:16:36 PM
BAYER LOWERS THE BLOOD PRESSURE.......
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: alexxx on November 17, 2006, 03:10:24 PM
Arginine (unless she's ever had a heart attack)
Co Q10 (120 milligrams a day, minimum, is needed to see much benefit)
540 mgs. of DHA and 360 mgs. of EPA a day (at least)
Reducing salt intake (obviously)
Avoiding things in life (is possible) which cause a whole lot of tension and stress (wouldn't we all like to do that)

She can't avoid me.
Title: Re: How do you lower high blood pressure?
Post by: whitewidow on November 18, 2006, 12:14:52 AM
take a bong hit you will be fine-lol