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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt C on November 19, 2006, 07:04:53 AM
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Discuss.
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just take some time off. brutal insecurity about your weight.
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I was diagnosed with this yesterday. :(
I'm pretty sure I came down with it on Monday. I think the mental stress caused by my cousin stabbing me in the back, coupled with the heavy pollution in Fort Frances weakened by immune system to the point where I was more susceptible to it. I honestly haven't ate or drank much of anything in that time. I don't even want to step on the scale.
How do you guys work around stuff like this? I haven't been to the gym since I got sick because I don't want to weaken my immune system further. Has anyone had pneumonia before? If yes, how did you deal with it and how long did it take to gain back any weight you may have lost.
dude just continue training and do not lif heavy weights under such conditions..keep traning but not heavy...take hot water baths after training..this would soothe the muscles and ease the pain
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dude just continue training and do not lif heavy weights under such conditions..keep traning but not heavy...take hot water baths after training..this would soothe the muscles and ease the pain
Yeah, I'm getting muscle pain, especially in my back. Did you get it before too?
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Yeah, I'm getting muscle pain, especially in my back. Did you get it before too?
naah i read this somewhere plus my dad was a veteran bodybuilder too..he told me this..now he does not bodybuild though but he knows alot about training around an illness
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naah i read this somewhere plus my dad was a veteran bodybuilder too..he told me this..now he does not bodybuild though but he knows alot about training around an illness
Good stuff! I lose muscle quickly and I don't have any to spare. I just want this to do the least amount of damage possible.
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just take some time off. brutal insecurity about your weight.
Agreed. Use this as an excuse to take a week or two off.
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Good stuff! I lose muscle quickly and I don't have any to spare. I just want this to do the least amount of damage possible.
Matt do not train while you are sick.Your heart and body are already under enough stress trying to fight the sickness.
Take a week off.You will only lose water not actual muscle.
You think what took you a couple of years training can just disappear in aweek or two.
Of course it wont and in fact it will be good for your body to rest.
If you train while your sick the only thing that will happen is an injury that will take more time away from the gym.
Just rest,take in calories and when you go back training just take it light.
After 5-6 workouts your will be back to your old self again.
Hope this helps.
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My area of expertise happens to be antibiotics, and I deal with upper respiratory infections on a daily basis. Your best bet is to ask your Doc for a script for the Leva-PAK. It's Levaquin 750mg for 5 days. It'll knock Community Acquired Pneumonia out faster than any of the other antibiotics. Biaxin and Zithromax have failure rates of @ 30% nation-wide. The Clavulanic Acid in Augmentin will have you shitting through a screen door. And the other quinolones have some health concerns you'll want to avoid...Avelox has qTc interval prolongation issues and Tequin disturbs blood sugar levels fairly significantly. If he tries to give you Ketek, no. 25% failure rate, blurry vision and I've seen several cases of rashes.
Leva-PAK...5 days, 99% susceptibilities for s. Pneumonia and h. influenzae (the 2 most prevalent causitive pathogens in pneumonia) and placebo-like side effects.
You may just have to suck it up and take 4 or 5 days off, but most of the weight you lose will be water.
Hope this helps.
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I agree with those saying to take a few days off. Today is actually the first day this weekend recovered from the flu. Didn't train, didn't think about training, and I might not train today. I'm glad I had an appetite. I got all my calories. Lots of soup and orange juice.
I swear to you that nothing made me feel better than did weed. I was able to jump out of bed and run around while stoned. Best medicine there is. It's worth the paranoia you say you suffer from, I think! Well, in all seriousness, I recommend it. If you don't have an appetite, smoke some weed and BAM all you want is a huge meal!!
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naah mate..your all wrong..take a few days off..not a whole week or so.just take 2 or 3 days and continue taining with very light weight..go for eps and eat senisbly.do not eat your regular big meals that you must be eating..eat a bit less and DO NOT SKIP TRAINING after 3 days of rest..doing light weight would keep your muscles maintained
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This guy had a bad experience training while sick.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=106381.0
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when u say stabbed in the back, and then you say you have back pain, do you mean an actual "stabbed in the back" or just in the mental sense? Sorry, not familiar with whats going on here.
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Just out of curiosity how were you "diagnosed" with pneumonia.
Did you have a chest xray or bloodwork done? Did your family doc listen to your chest.
Also, what antibiotics are you on?
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I would take a week or two off, pneumonia isn't a common cold.
By the way, who the hell would take advice from the Shadow? You must be suffering from hallucinations.
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naah mate..your all wrong..take a few days off..not a whole week or so.just take 2 or 3 days and continue taining with very light weight..go for eps and eat senisbly.do not eat your regular big meals that you must be eating..eat a bit less and DO NOT SKIP TRAINING after 3 days of rest..doing light weight would keep your muscles maintained
What's the point? It's pneumonia! All I'd want to do is sleep, rest and recover. When I know I have my trusty muscle memory, I won't feel any need to force myself out of bed and have someone drag me into the gym to train with a 100+ fever. That's just stupid.
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I would take a week or two off, pneumonia isn't a common cold.
By the way, who the hell would take advice from the Shadow? You must be suffering from hallucinations.
If you take time off, you will recover faster. Get rest - you have the rest of your life to lift...
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If you take time off, you will recover faster. Get rest - you have the rest of your life to lift...
No shit? I was pointing out that listening to the Shadow telling the guy to keep on lifting would be a gigantic mistake. You don't fuck around with pneumonia, it's not something like the sniffles.
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Dude, don't listen to anybody on here. Do not train when you have pneumonia. You will end up in the hospital because your body will break down.
True. If you were on steroids none of this would have happend in the first place :D
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I would suggest you do not train at all. I had pneumonia and was coughing up small amounts of blood at one point. I would never want to go through that again, ever. A course of antibiotics and about 2 weeks very very easy, and I was back to normal.
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pneumonia isnt a small thing there matt. i wouldnt push your body at all, blood infections(sepsis), menighitis etc depending on your infection etioliogy are not uncommon. relax, take a break, the idiots here telling you to work out are insane, pneumonia is a cold it can be life threatining and pushing your body is only going to make the infection spread. strange to hear you ask such a stupid question, pneumonia can take some months to clear in some cases, and i know lots of people who ended up in the hospital and even one whos lung collaseped due to fluid build up. just take a week or two off and chill out.
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is it viral or bacterial matt?
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That's what I was wondering. After I posted, I re-reas his post and it doesn't sound like it's actually been diagnosed. Need to see a doc, get some chest x-rays...etc...
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What's the point? It's pneumonia! All I'd want to do is sleep, rest and recover. When I know I have my trusty muscle memory, I won't feel any need to force myself out of bed and have someone drag me into the gym to train with a 100+ fever. That's just stupid.
i never said you should train at 100+ fever...just get a bit normal and continue a bit of light training
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i never said you should train at 100+ fever...just get a bit normal and continue a bit of light training
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seriously shadow.....fuck off.
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I've trained through pnumonia and broncial infections, not the smartest thing to do but I did it. It probably prolonged it and I don't think I'll do it again, I just had an asthma inhaler close by and hit it when I had to...
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haha, natural al=retarded
pnemonia equals increased heart rate
working out equals increased heart rate
albuterol is a beta agonist that mimics adrenaline and increases heart rate
altogether you have the makings of a smashing good heart attack, when a week of rest would have done the body good. id like to see a liver a person with hepatitis, taking M1T, and drinking at the same time. just work through it matt, stop being a pussy and train like a man.
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Take 1 or 2 weeks off to let your system recover. Don't force yourself to train - its not worth it. Don't worry, you're not going to dramatically shrink or lose all your strength.
[its probably wise to consult a doctor for specific advice. Give him a sob story and maybe he'll give you some deca to help 'recover']
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haha, natural al=retarded
pnemonia equals increased heart rate
working out equals increased heart rate
albuterol is a beta agonist that mimics adrenaline and increases heart rate
altogether you have the makings of a smashing good heart attack, when a week of rest would have done the body good. id like to see a liver a person with hepatitis, taking M1T, and drinking at the same time. just work through it matt, stop being a pussy and train like a man.
wow. amazing, you made that assesment of me from that little post. I was not hitting the inhaler every 2 minutes or anything, maybe once in awhile. Usually at the end of a session if I got out of breath. Trust me, I've had asthma my whole life and if I didn't do anything when I had a broncial infection I wouldn't do a thing from November to March, I've learned to work around it. I avoided alot of movements that would get me breathing heavily like squats and deadlifts, I also made sure I had plenty of menthol cough drops while I was training, they help alot or maybe I just think they do, could be a placebo effect. I did take time off from training but after 2 or 3 weeks you get a little antsy.
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Good stuff! I lose muscle quickly and I don't have any to spare. I just want this to do the least amount of damage possible.
Matt, any muscle you lose will all be in your head. If you lose a few pounds you will gain it back within a week of resuming training and being healthy.
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haha. im only fucking with you, if you like heart attacks thats your perogative ;D, some people do some dont, i havent made up my mind about them.
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when u say stabbed in the back, and then you say you have back pain, do you mean an actual "stabbed in the back" or just in the mental sense? Sorry, not familiar with whats going on here.
Basically my 19 year old cousin said he needed $1,000 for an emergency. I told him to talk to his dad and he kept asking me over and over and over again, knowing that I'm a nice guy but also very naive with my generousity and easy to be taken advantage of by selfish, worthless dumb pricks like him. When he accidentally let the cat of the the bag that he bought his pregnant girlfriend 60 roses his dad stopped dead in his tracks and asked where he got the money from. My cousin froze like an ice cube and later on I fucking flipped on him and the dumb piece of shit had the never to blame it on roid rage and and didn't even acknowledge how disrespectful he was. I even told him I had made loans like that many times with the same promises and never got the money back and he kept pressuring me knowing I would cave like an idiot, which I did. I was so pissed that I told my uncle and he explained my cousin has a huge drug addiction and probably spent the remainder of the money on drugs.
Just out of curiosity how were you "diagnosed" with pneumonia.
Did you have a chest xray or bloodwork done? Did your family doc listen to your chest.
Also, what antibiotics are you on?
I went to the ER last night and got a chest XRAY and a throat swab. The doc came back and said it was pneumonia and prescribed Zithromax (started last night). The last time and only other time I used antibiotics was the same one in April of 2005 when my dad passed on a nasty bacterial infection to me which I came down with exactly when my undergrad at university was complete. I blame him 100% for his disgusting negligence and public health risk which first off could have killed him (Jim Henson died in similar circumstances), and he made me incredibly ill.
My pulse was up to 128 at rest before and my blood pressure was around 98/38, although I've had readings as low as 32 even during normal times, and pretty well never as high as 50. :-\
A lot of the advice here is too "hardcore" for me, like something Tom Prince, Don Long, or Flex Wheeler would give me. I never had intentions of training while sick - I just wanted to know the best strategy for getting back into it once I recover.
Some of the other advice is very much appreciated and means a lot to me - I honestly feel like death right now. :-\
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I was diagnosed with this yesterday. :(
I'm pretty sure I came down with it on Monday. I think the mental stress caused by my cousin stabbing me in the back, coupled with the heavy pollution in Fort Frances weakened by immune system to the point where I was more susceptible to it. I honestly haven't ate or drank much of anything in that time. I don't even want to step on the scale.
How do you guys work around stuff like this? I haven't been to the gym since I got sick because I don't want to weaken my immune system further. Has anyone had pneumonia before? If yes, how did you deal with it and how long did it take to gain back any weight you may have lost?
Fuck worrying about "weight". Just try to rest and get healthy.
Pneumonia is pretty tough all on its own, don't stress yourself out any further........
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I had pneumonia two weeks ago but I still haven't gotten over my cough. I keep thinking that I am better and then I go workout and I just start coughing my head off; it makes it really hard to train with any intensity. I am going to continue to try to take it easy the next week or so and lower the intensity a little until my cough is gone. Good luck with your recovery also.
Been there, man.
Take it easy.
You'll be back in full strength soon.
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I had pneumonia two weeks ago but I still haven't gotten over my cough. I keep thinking that I am better and then I go workout and I just start coughing my head off; it makes it really hard to train with any intensity. I am going to continue to try to take it easy the next week or so and lower the intensity a little until my cough is gone. Good luck with your recovery also.
Nice to see someone who came down with it recently and beat it, except for small and pretty well harmless parts of it. Like I said, I honestly feel like death right now - I've never been as ill in my life.
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gordiano - thanks.
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Get well MaxC!
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Get well MaxC!
Thanks. I can say one thing right now - I'm not getting any worse. And the phlegm in my lungs is minimal. Is that a sign that my body is handling the illness well? I know I come across as a know-it-all on here, but I have no problem admitting that medicine is not at all something I know well.
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Thanks. I can say one thing right now - I'm not getting any worse. And the phlegm in my lungs is minimal. Is that a sign that my body is handling the illness well? I know I come across as a know-it-all on here, but I have no problem admitting that medicine is not at all something I know well.
WebMD brotha. Check 'em out.
You got this going for you- You're young.
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WebMD brotha. Check 'em out.
You got this going for you- You're young.
Thanks for the ref. And being young is the reason why I think I will recover from this well. In addition I would bet I am in better than average health for people in my demographic.
My friend's dad is 64 and a smoker and doesn't believe in antibiotics. ::)
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yo matt. few supps you could pick up that would speed up the process.
vitamin c-3000mgs a day
iron and vitamin e
two big things with bacterial pneumonia would be GARLIC and OIL OF OREGANO
seriously the oil of oregano from oreganol is potent as hell and much better then most antibiotics that are made. many, many studies done on it and it is even used to treat sewage, it is strong as hell and wont impact beneficial bacteria negatively like allopathic antibiotics. raw honey would also help. but if i were you id do a little research on oreganol p73 and its effects on multiple bacterial strains, it is very strong, and is being used against resistant bacteria.
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Antiobiotics used over and over make your body weaker and more susceptible.
Yes, but he is 64 and little bugs can kill him at that age.
usmokepole - thanks!
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ya no sweat, here is a good read on it that i posted on the board i admin on.
http://www.thepowermall.com/oreganoproducts/faq.htm.
awesome products for any infection, saves trips to the doctor for my sinus infections all the time, and its good to cycle to enhance the immune system, but i wouldnt take it for longer then a month at a decent dose, may have some mild effects on beneficial bacteria. the thing with regular antibiotics is that the stop replication of the bacteria, oregano kills bacteria by exothermic reactions, literally heating them up and suffucating the bacteria, therefore no resistance is possible. anyway enough rambling, good read above, should help a ton.
garlic is antibacterial too and antiviral with immunomodualting effects. another thing that is good about the two products is that they combat yeast/fungus problems brought on by antibiotics your taking so that is a bonus as dirreahea and fungal infections often due occur.
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Dude, you have about eight advanced degrees and you are asking if you should train with pneumonia? Come on Matt.
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I haven't been in the gym in 10 days. it's never been so easy