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Title: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 10:50:55 AM
Hello there

here are some pictures for your vieming pleasure

Take care

bye
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 10:51:53 AM
arnie
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 10:52:10 AM
Never seen that first one. From the bathing suit it's late 60s/early 70s.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 10:52:57 AM
another
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 10:54:40 AM
more
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: onlyme on November 21, 2006, 10:57:12 AM
some more
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 10:59:05 AM
arnie
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 11:02:12 AM
great shots onlyme!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 11:05:56 AM
huge arms
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on November 21, 2006, 11:08:03 AM
I can't belive after all these years of decades of bodybuilding and I am still in awe seeing old pics of Arnold...He was simply amazing...
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Figo on November 21, 2006, 01:00:28 PM
Still phenomenal arms.

Even in this advanced pharmaceutical, lubricant-filled age.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: DK II on November 21, 2006, 01:04:20 PM
I can't belive after all these years of decades of bodybuilding and I am still in awe seeing old pics of Arnold...He was simply amazing...

totally agree. There's no one that can reach this.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 21, 2006, 01:14:57 PM
"Fanny packs??...no thanks"

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery11/ar495.jpg)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 01:21:26 PM
That last pic & this one, remind us how much of it was artificial. Bigger difference than some other guys who are genuinely for real off or on. Nice tennis player look without the roids.

Sheepish grin because he knows it too. ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 21, 2006, 01:23:47 PM
Bigger difference than some other guys who are genuinely for real off or on. Nice tennis player look without the roids.

Sheepish grin because he knows it too. ;)



How naive.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 01:27:12 PM
A personal fave.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 01:33:42 PM
He started it all for a lot of people,like him or not.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on November 21, 2006, 01:35:09 PM
He started it all for a lot of people,like him or not.

I love it when people try to cut him down...Seeing as how unsuccessful he has been throughout his life.... ::)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: beatmaster on November 21, 2006, 01:37:09 PM
A personal fave.

wow the after picture he looks like he never train (regular old man)

but true he was great
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: DK II on November 21, 2006, 01:38:13 PM
I love it when people try to cut him down...Seeing as how unsuccessful he has been throughout his life.... ::)

haha, yes.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 01:39:10 PM
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I love it when people try to cut him down...Seeing as how unsuccessful he has been throughout his life....

What's funny is that all those pics are reality, yet it's taken as an attack by the protective nuthugging groupies. hahahaahahahha
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on November 21, 2006, 01:42:27 PM
What's funny is that all those pics are reality, yet it's taken as an attack by the protective nuthugging groupies. hahahaahahahha

People get old how amazing is that LoL....Don't we all wish we didn't have to get old and weak and shitty looking...Some really never want to get to that point so they end it earlier...Go figure....
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 01:45:10 PM
I`m just a fan thats all pumpster.
I couldnt care less what he does outside of bodybuilding
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Biggrnyou on November 21, 2006, 02:43:38 PM
.....still figuring out what "vieming pleasure" is... ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Sergio Rules 77 on November 21, 2006, 02:57:41 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108154.0;attach=120626)

I didn't know Arnie did porn ::)

SERGIO!!!!!!!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:06:50 PM
A personal fave.

Pumpster doesn't like Arnold because he crushed Sergio  ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 03:09:20 PM
I like arnie but sergio was an absolute freak
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 03:10:55 PM
sergio
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:11:43 PM
I like arnie but sergio was an absolute freak


Oh he was a freak no doubt about it , insane structure.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: rccs on November 21, 2006, 03:13:13 PM
Hello there

here are some pictures for your vieming pleasure

Take care

bye
best physic ever!!! Gutless, huge pecs, fantastic definition, perfect...
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:13:19 PM
This thread should be called "Thread of Champions!" 8)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 03:14:10 PM
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Pumpster doesn't like Arnold because he crushed Sergio
Dumbass contradicts his own words with a shot where Sergio looks as good or better. Classic. This fool really is clueless about BB! ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: backday on November 21, 2006, 03:16:15 PM
Sergio=best genes ever ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
Dumbass contradicts his own words with a shot where Sergio looks as good or better. Classic.

Arnold crushed Sergio in 1970 its not his fault he couldn't handle The Oak !! Sergio got his ass handed to him twice in 1970 by Arnold .
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Sergio Rules 77 on November 21, 2006, 03:16:50 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108154.0;attach=120706)

Arnold's legs are slightly more cut and only slightly. Apart from that, Sergio blows away Arnold in every other bodypart, how the hell did he win that show ???

SERGIO!!!!!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 03:18:23 PM
This thread should be called "Thread of Champions!" 8)
I was waiting for you to chime in Alexxx I know your a fan of the golden era like me.
Heres another one for ya....
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:19:00 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108154.0;attach=120706)

Arnold's legs are slightly more cut and only slightly. Apart from that, Sergio blows away Arnold in every other bodypart, how the hell did he win that show ???

SERGIO!!!!!

He won because of conditioning something Sergio was lacking , he was the Flex Wheeler of the late 60s early 70s had among the best genetics but was lazy .
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 03:19:06 PM
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Quote from: pumpster on Today at 06:14:10 PM
Dumbass contradicts his own words with a shot where Sergio looks as good or better. Classic.

Arnold crushed Sergio in 1970 its not his fault he couldn't handle The Oak !! Sergio got his ass handed to him twice in 1970 by Arnold .

ND with another brainless contradiction of his own words with that pic, followed up by yet more damage control AKA gibberish & worn phrases that no one reads.

This douchebag proves over & over again that he is clueless when it comes to BB. He relies entirely on what's printed in some mag somewhere then regurgitates it.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:22:19 PM
ND with another brainless contradiction of his own words with that pic, followed up by yet more damage control AKA gibberish that no one reads.

This douchebag is clueless on BB.

Oh I know bodybuilding I actually work out with free weights and not a fucking Bow Flex  ;)

Arnold was simply the better overall bodybuilder.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 03:23:35 PM
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Arnold was simply the better overall bodybuilder.

Poor choice of pics, it proved the opposite. Nice going there genius!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:24:11 PM
I was waiting for you to chime in Alexxx I know your a fan of the golden era like me.
Heres another one for ya....

Yes I am and these two bodybuilders are the ideal in physical development. That is a fantastic back myth pose! The elegance and proportional size make it phenominal!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 03:25:55 PM
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Yes I am and these two bodybuilders are the ideal in physical development. That is a fantastic back myth pose! The elegance and proportional size make it phenominal!

Alexxx do you see anything here in these pics that proves ND's idiotic claims, or more likely proves that Sergio was better?

Good move ND posting Sergio shots!  ::)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:26:13 PM
Poor choice of pics, it proved the opposite. Nice going there genius!

No they prove Sergio couldn't match Arnold in conditioning , it clearly shows Sergio is lack in this department this isn't debatable
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 03:27:12 PM
Funny how ND always goes for the white guy when it's close. hahahahahaahahah
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:28:58 PM
Funny how ND always goes for the white guy when it's close. hahahahahaahahah

Its always funny you obsess over race it shows where you're at .
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 03:30:09 PM
ND's tendencies match his poor judgements.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:32:11 PM
ND's tendencies match his poor judgements.

You're just angry Sergio got owned by Arnold  ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:32:46 PM
Alexxx do you see anything here in these pics that proves ND's idiotic claims, or more likely proves that Sergio was better?

Good move ND posting Sergio shots!  ::)

I think its pretty close between Arnold and Sergio. It is difficult to judge just from the pictures but yes I would give the nod over to Arnold. Arnold outrained Sergio and his condition is way better not to mention presentation. Standing by himself or beside anyone other than Arnold people would think Sergio is unbeatable but even though Arnold wasn't blessed with the perfect structure, he made the most of the size game and can hold his own against Sergio.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 03:33:50 PM
Alexxx check out a website called

history of mr. olympia classic bodybuilders

There are thousands of photos from all the great oldtimers.

Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:36:27 PM
I think its pretty close between Arnold and Sergio. It is difficult to judge just from the pictures but yes I would give the nod over to Arnold. Arnold outrained Sergio and his condition is way better not to mention presentation. Standing by himself or beside anyone other than Arnold people would think Sergio is unbeatable but even though Arnold wasn't blessed with the perfect structure, he made the most of the size game and can hold his own against Sergio.

Great post !
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:36:47 PM
Alexxx check out a website called

history of mr. olympia classic bodybuilders

There are thousands of photos from all the great oldtimers.



Thanks, I've known about this site for a few years now. It has pretty much every pic on the internet about the ironagers but the newer pages of guys like Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray and Chris Cormier never seem to get finished.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: The Squadfather on November 21, 2006, 03:37:18 PM
You're just angry Sergio got owned by Arnold  ;)
no way in hell does Arnold own Sergio at all, that shot of the front double biceps illustrates that perfectly, Sergio's arms are bigger, his waist is way smaller, his legs are bigger, Arnold was incredible but Sergio was better.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: The Squadfather on November 21, 2006, 03:37:59 PM
You're just angry Sergio got owned by Arnold  ;)
no way in hell does Arnold own Sergio at all, that shot of the front double biceps illustrates that perfectly, Sergio's arms are bigger, his waist is way smaller, his legs are bigger, Arnold was incredible but Sergio was better.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:39:42 PM
no way in hell does Arnold own Sergio at all, that shot of the front double biceps illustrates that perfectly, Sergio's arms are bigger, his waist is way smaller, his legs are bigger, Arnold was incredible but Sergio was better.

Well I guess I will just keep posting.. ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 21, 2006, 03:39:43 PM
no way in hell does Arnold own Sergio at all, that shot of the front double biceps illustrates that perfectly, Sergio's arms are bigger, his waist is way smaller, his legs are bigger, Arnold was incredible but Sergio was better.

Yeah, but Sergio had extra muscles and stuff because he's a negro, so that's not fair.  8)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 21, 2006, 03:40:15 PM
Thanks, I've known about this site for a few years now. It has pretty much every pic on the internet about the ironagers but the newer pages of guys like Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray and Chris Cormier never seem to get finished.
I dont understand why they dont have ken waller there though.
The guy is a legend in the golden era.
I emailed them before and told them to include a ken waller profile with pics.
The bastards never responded to my letter
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:41:08 PM
no way in hell does Arnold own Sergio at all, that shot of the front double biceps illustrates that perfectly, Sergio's arms are bigger, his waist is way smaller, his legs are bigger, Arnold was incredible but Sergio was better.

No one is questioning Sergio's structure whats good are his natural advantages if he lags behind in conditioning ?
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:41:29 PM
Make your own conclusions.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:43:04 PM
I dont understand why they dont have ken waller there though.
The guy is a legend in the golden era.
I emailed them before and told them to include a ken waller profile with pics.
The bastards never responded to my letter

heh maybe they are biased against those bodybuilders? They keep on updating the Serge Nubret one pretty often though. :)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 03:44:36 PM
Make your own conclusions.

Sergio was fantastic but not complete and he paid the price for it , he lags behind Arnold in conditioning , separation and detail , sure Sergio has the better natural structure but it tales more than that .
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 03:51:45 PM
Sergio would be unbeatable with better condition.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: backday on November 21, 2006, 03:57:16 PM
Well I think that when both just stand without possing the better structure of sergio gives him the edge but when they pose somewhat, Arnold take better advantages of angles conditioning and so on.
Both were outstanding :)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 04:45:46 PM
greatest back ever
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 04:47:00 PM
72 O
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 04:47:58 PM
relaxed???
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 04:48:43 PM
artwork
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 04:49:29 PM
best double bi ever??
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: crc69 on November 21, 2006, 04:50:02 PM
Never seen that first one.

Just posted 1500000 times, like other ones  ::)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 04:50:53 PM
tell me what bodybuilder wouldn't want to look like this relaxed
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 04:52:48 PM
Just posted 1500000 times, like other ones  ::)

talk to the hand.

Some haven't seen these pictures, but I will stop since I don't have to share what I already have.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 21, 2006, 04:53:56 PM
I'm a HUGE Arnold fan during his younger years - before he won his first Olympia title. Albert Busek captured that essence for us in the May 2005 issue of FLEX.

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m44.jpg)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:30:23 PM
Yeah, but Sergio had extra muscles and stuff because he's a negro, so that's not fair.  8)

Something tells me ND always loved Kramer.  ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:31:48 PM
Sergio was fantastic but not complete and he paid the price for it , he lags behind Arnold in conditioning , separation and detail , sure Sergio has the better natural structure but it tales more than that .

In fantasy land. There was more to the outcomes than this kind of simple after the fact revisionism.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 05:32:49 PM
Something tells me ND always loved Kramer.  ;)

Something tells me you have a massive inferiority complex  ;) you're the one who keeps bring up race .
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:33:27 PM
Just posted 1500000 times, like other ones  ::)

Post links; prove it. ::)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:35:14 PM
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you're the one who keeps bring up race .

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Quote from: The Showstoppa on Today at 06:39:43 PM
Yeah, but Sergio had extra muscles and stuff because he's a negro, so that's not fair

Wasn't me there, stupid.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 05:37:38 PM
Wasn't me there, stupid.

No it was you stupid , you brought up in other threads , you have an issue with peoples color because you constantly bring it up , thats your hang up not mine.  ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:39:43 PM
No it was you stupid , you brought up in other threads , you have an issue with peoples color because you constantly bring it up , thats your hang up not mine.  ;)

You F--- up your assumptions in this thread as you have in others, dolt. Proven fact. ;D

But since you bring it up, what's up with you and white BBs? Piling on Oliva, piling on Coleman, piling on Robinson..the list gets longer and longer, as proven in this thread with your meltdown. Why did you bring up Oliva in this thread Kramer ND?
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 05:43:40 PM
You F--- up your assumptions in this thread as you have in others, dolt. Proven fact. ;D

But since you bring it up, what's up with you and white BBs?

I didn't bring anything up you did , you have the hang ups about race I don't  ;) and I've maintained Flex Wheeler would beat Dorian Yates at his best , you have nothing to work , just like when you labeled Lee Priest a racist because according to you most people who are from Australia are , I think Sergio is a fantastic bodybuilder but there was a reason he lost to Arnold because he was incomplete and paid for it.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:44:14 PM
Why did Kramer ND bring up Oliva in this thread?
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 05:48:59 PM
Why did Kramer ND bring up Oliva in this thread?

because thats the sole reason why you don't like Arnold and tolled the ' then & now ' pic , you don't like Arnold because he crushed Sergio and he's not the only one who beat Sergio and aren't you the same guy who claimed Dorian Yates was handpicked because he was white and marketable? you're obsessed with race , you claimed the same thing with Arnold , you're obsessed with white bodybuilders who beat ones who aren't , again thats your hang up , may the best man win reguardless of color.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:51:24 PM
ND busy with another anti-Oliva, anti-Coleman rant..
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 21, 2006, 05:53:50 PM
It seems to me if you ever want your thread to stay alive or reach ground-breaking pages, argue with NarcissisticDeity!  :D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 05:55:16 PM
you're getting off topic and Arnold doesn't approve.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 05:56:49 PM
you're getting off topic and Arnold doesn't approve.

Someone named Kramer ND brought up a black BB in order to attack him.  ???
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 05:57:37 PM
ND busy with another anti-Oliva, anti-Coleman rant..

I'm a huge fan of Oliva's physique but I'm honest enough to know why he got beat you can't separate your personal feelings from the reality of the situation , Sergio had a fantastic structure and great genetics but it takes more than that alone to be the best

Sergio could get away with mediocre conditioning with guys like Poole , Draper and Sipes but he never faced anyone like Arnold and when he did he won just barely in 69 and then Arnold came back more mature and beat him outright and did it again and again .
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 06:00:34 PM
Someone named Kramer ND brought up a black BB in order to attack him.  ???

He's not black he's Cuban  ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 06:06:34 PM
He's not black he's Cuban  ;)

Does that mean he's white in Kramer ND speak?
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 06:10:26 PM
Does that mean he's white in Kramer ND speak?

It means Arnold ran him out of the I.F.B.B.  ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 06:14:28 PM
It means Arnold ran him out of the I.F.B.B.  ;)

Weider had nothing to do with it huh? You are completely brainwashed by the IFBB, Weider & Flex.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 06:18:17 PM
best double bi ever??

GROUNDBREACKING PIC!!!!!!!!! :o THIS SHOULD END THE DEBATE ON BEST BODYBUILDER EVER!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2006, 06:20:46 PM
Weider had nothing to do with it huh? You are completely brainwashed by the IFBB, Weider & Flex.

No Sergio wasn't man enough to look at his own faults objectively and rectify the problems and come back better than ever , thats what Arnold did he was crushed by his lost to Frank Zane in 68 , he rectified the problem and Zane never beat him again , same with Sergio in 69 , Arnold lost came back and was never beaten again , Sergio became comfortable in his own mediocrity and thats why Arnold beat him , claim it was IFBB politics and you still have nothing when Sergio outright lost while he was training under Jones in 1971 to Bill Pearl in an NABBA contest  ;) you have nothing to work with.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: amoney86 on November 21, 2006, 06:23:40 PM
Sergio outright lost while he was training under Jones in 1971 to Bill Pearl in an NABBA contest  ;) you have nothing to work with.
case closed!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Hulkster on November 21, 2006, 06:24:40 PM
cool comparison!:

the two greatest most musculars EVER!:

Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 06:27:59 PM
cool comparison!:

the two greatest most musculars EVER!:



Admit it. Who would you like to look like more, Ronnie or Arnold? Arnold is pleasing to the eye with awesome shape, Ronnie also has an awesome freacky physique but for me that is too much and detracts from the overall look.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 21, 2006, 06:31:27 PM
Arnold is pleasing to the eye with awesome shape, Ronnie also has an awesome freacky physique but for me that is too much and detracts from the overall look.

Exactly my thought.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Hulkster on November 21, 2006, 06:35:27 PM
no question I would rather look like Arnold...in the offseason 8)

Onstage, ronnie all the way.  Looks like he is about to explode in those crab shots.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 06:36:43 PM
I knew you would agree Slick! 8)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 21, 2006, 06:42:44 PM
No Sergio wasn't man enough to look at his own faults objectively and rectify the problems and come back better than ever , thats what Arnold did he was crushed by his lost to Frank Zane in 68 , he rectified the problem and Zane never beat him again , same with Sergio in 69 , Arnold lost came back and was never beaten again , Sergio became comfortable in his own mediocrity and thats why Arnold beat him , claim it was IFBB politics and you still have nothing when Sergio outright lost while he was training under Jones in 1971 to Bill Pearl in an NABBA contest  ;) you have nothing to work with.

ND talks like he knows while having ZERO inside info to confirm any of it. Nothin' new.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 21, 2006, 06:48:58 PM
no question I would rather look like Arnold...in the offseason 8)

Onstage, ronnie all the way.  Looks like he is about to explode in those crab shots.

Imagine Arnold with Ronnie's contest ready condition!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Delusional Liberal on November 21, 2006, 06:52:45 PM
That last pic & this one, remind us how much of it was artificial. Bigger difference than some other guys who are genuinely for real off or on. Nice tennis player look without the roids.

Sheepish grin because he knows it too. ;)
he probably just didnt bother training when off, gave his body a rest, it's pretty much useless at that level to train naturally.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Hulkster on November 21, 2006, 06:57:03 PM
Imagine Arnold with Ronnie's contest ready condition!

that would be crazy
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 21, 2006, 07:28:11 PM
good night, lights out!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: onlyme on November 21, 2006, 08:49:36 PM
A couple of relaxed shots.  The first one is just unreal.  Looks absolutely perfect in every way
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Farcry on November 21, 2006, 09:31:52 PM
i wish i could walk down the beach just 1 day looking like ronnie did in those pics
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: UK Gold on November 22, 2006, 02:16:41 AM
Look how bloated Arnold is in that last pic. Ha ha ha, there is alot of deca in that physique! Go Arnie! He really is the king of bodybuilding! At his best he is untouchable - his nearest rival is Yates 93. Fuck Ronnie. He needs Kramer to put him in his place. Ooops, forgot: Jays already done it :)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: MikeThaMachine on November 22, 2006, 03:54:32 AM
He's not black he's Cuban  ;)

Serge Nubret isn't black either, he's french. ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: GoneAway on November 22, 2006, 04:41:30 AM
Arnold and Sergio are so close, but have very different physiques. You could say Arnold looked smaller than Sergio, but he made that up with superior conditioning and posing style. In a tight battle, you go with who's most conditioned.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Playboy on November 22, 2006, 05:01:09 AM
A personal fave.
You do realize he's in his sixties, don't you?

PB
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 22, 2006, 05:05:02 AM
Arnold and Sergio are so close, but have very different physiques. You could say Arnold looked smaller than Sergio, but he made that up with superior conditioning and posing style. In a tight battle, you go with who's most conditioned.

Oliva's conditioning at his best was just fine. The only problem is the dearth of pics showing this, from younger years. At his peak he didn't have the better photographers Weider had around Schwarzenegger did, taking copious numbers of good shots. Think about it.

Most see a lot of older pics and make assumptions.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 22, 2006, 05:06:15 AM
You do realize he's in his sixties, don't you?

PB
Early 50s there...your assessment just added 10-15 years. ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: efirkey on November 22, 2006, 05:16:24 AM
Oliva's conditioning at his best was just fine. The only problem is the dearth of good pics showing this, in younger years. Most see a lot of older pics and make assumptions.

How could there not have been photographs of one of the greatest bodybuilders in his best condition?
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 22, 2006, 05:19:28 AM
He was already out of the Weider loop by the early 70s, just as Draper was. After which time they were featured only occasionally in lesser mags like Muscle Training, Lurie's mag. Those shots are few and far between.

How many gym & training shots have you seen of Oliva from the early-mid 70s? The kind of Schwarzenegger gym shots that were featured each month in Weider's mag and are now common online?

Big difference in photo quality & quantity.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Playboy on November 22, 2006, 05:29:18 AM
Early 50s there...your assessment just added 10-15 years. ;D
He was 29 when he made Pumping Iron in 1975.  That would make him 60. Do the math. Does everyone expect him to be fully jacked at that age. The man has had a stellar career in bbdg, acting and now he's a governer. I highly doubt he has time to piss let alone train.

PB
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 22, 2006, 05:32:00 AM
He was 29 when he made Pumping Iron in 1975.  That would make him 60. Do the math. Does everyone expect him to be fully jacked at that age. The man has had a stellar career in bbdg, acting and now he's a governer. I highly doubt he has time to piss let alone train.

PB

Born in '47, pic taken late 90s during a long movie career filled with plenty of idle time to train in a huge trailer brought to movie sets filled with his own gym equipment. Didn't have a full-time job until becoming governor. Do the math, and cut out the defensiveness. He doesn't have to be perfect to be your hero.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: GoneAway on November 22, 2006, 05:37:43 AM
He was already out of the Weider loop by the early 70s, just as Draper was. After which time they were featured only occasionally in lesser mags like Muscle Training, Lurie's mag. Those shots are few and far between.

How many gym & training shots have you seen of Oliva from the early-mid 70s? The kind of Schwarzenegger gym shots that were featured each month in Weider's mag and are now common online?

Big difference in photo quality & quantity.

I've never seen Sergio anymore conditioned than Arnold. He had alot of mass, but in the back shots (among others) Arnold was his father.

Let's see some of those pics. I found a couple from the late 70's, and he looks pretty average.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 22, 2006, 05:38:47 AM
The young Arnold Schwarzenegger doing an impromptu posing exhibition after the 1966 Mr. Universe during the dinner/dancing ceremony.

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery3/m210.jpg)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 22, 2006, 05:40:26 AM
I've never seen Sergio anymore conditioned than Arnold. He had alot of mass, but in the back shots (among others) Arnold was his father.

Let's see some of those pics. I found a couple from the late 70's, and he looks pretty average.

You've misinterpreted what was posted. Can't help you on that. ;)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: GoneAway on November 22, 2006, 05:49:21 AM
The young Arnold Schwarzenegger doing an impromptu posing exhibition after the 1966 Mr. Universe during the dinner/dancing ceremony.

Great shot simply for the crowd's faces.

The crowd's faces are priceless. That was probably after he was crowned Mr. Europe.
You've misinterpreted what was posted. Can't help you on that. ;)

Blame it on photo quality if you like, but I've seen many photos that are of the same quality to Arnold's, and it doesn't take an eye doctor to know where the photo quality can't bring out any more 'condition' than what's displayed.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 22, 2006, 06:06:16 AM
This is one of several photos that appeared in Tomorrow's Man magazine [some claim to be a gay magazine] from the early 60's that was taken by Frank Hollfelder. Enjoy, BayGBM....  ;D

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery11/ar525.jpg)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: GoneAway on November 22, 2006, 06:13:10 AM
He was probably only 16 in that shot.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Playboy on November 22, 2006, 06:30:43 AM
Born in '47, pic taken late 90s during a long movie career filled with plenty of idle time to train in a huge trailer brought to movie sets filled with his own gym equipment. Didn't have a full-time job until becoming governor. Do the math, and cut out the defensiveness. He doesn't have to be perfect to be your hero.
He's not my hero and I was just stating facts. How do you train in a trailer?

PB
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: rccs on November 22, 2006, 01:28:30 PM
He was 29 when he made Pumping Iron in 1975.  That would make him 60. Do the math. Does everyone expect him to be fully jacked at that age. The man has had a stellar career in bbdg, acting and now he's a governer. I highly doubt he has time to piss let alone train.

PB
Arnold was 28! It was one of the first things said on Pumping Iron! Pay attention to what the guy that is interviewing Arnold says.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 22, 2006, 01:46:49 PM
            Say What?

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m23.jpg)

        House music all night long"
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 22, 2006, 01:51:24 PM
They make it look easy....


(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m94.jpg)

I make it look it works,
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pobrecito on November 22, 2006, 01:52:56 PM
Arnold's shoulders were way too small for his chest and arms.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 22, 2006, 02:02:11 PM
He was 29 when he made Pumping Iron in 1975. Do the math.

Not to throw you under the bus, but if you wanna talk about "doing the math", he was 28 when he did Pumping Iron, not 29. Mr. Olympia was on November 8, 1975 - his birthday is July of 1947. But if you wanna get REAL technical, Arnold actually started making Pumping Iron at age 26 when George Butler made a test film for investors on May 25, 1974 - the first frames every shot for Pumping Iron! But you know, who's counting that?  ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: body88 on November 22, 2006, 02:23:30 PM
Oliva's conditioning at his best was just fine. The only problem is the dearth of pics showing this, from younger years. At his peak he didn't have the better photographers Weider had around Schwarzenegger did, taking copious numbers of good shots. Think about it.

Most see a lot of older pics and make assumptions.


You are the king of calling people on making excuses. In your own words  "woulda, coulda, shoulda". Sergio was not as conditioned as Arnie and he lost. Simple.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: suckmymuscle on November 22, 2006, 07:29:53 PM
  Ok, this is how I see it. Oliva obviously had a superior structure than Arnold's, but Arnold's structure was slightly bigger. Adding up, Arnold prevailed over Oliva because he had a serious advantage in muscularity, and Oliva's strenghs over Arnold couldn't tip the scales in his favor, because Arnold was still pretty awesome at them, too. For instance, Oliva had a better taper in most front shots than Arnold, but Arnold's taper was still fucking awesome. Oliva's back was more separated than Arnold's and attached lower, but Arnold compensated for this by having greater width&thickess. Oliva's delts were more proportionally developed than Arnold's, but Schwarzenegger had big front delts, giving him and edge in the most muscular. Arnold had an advantage in size, and that tipped the scales in his favor. Regardless, I give major props to Arnold for having faced a bodybuider that seemed like he was genetically engineered for bodybuilding perfection, and managed to defeat him. The true testament to Arnold's greatness was not that he defeated lesser foes with ease, but that he managed to defeat the single bodybuilder in history possesed of genetics to defeat him. Now that is Arnold's claim to immortality. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 22, 2006, 07:32:47 PM
  Ok, this is how I see it. Oliva obviously had a superior structure than Arnold's, but Arnold's structure was slightly bigger. Adding up, Arnold prevailed over Oliva because he had a serious advantage in muscularity, and Oliva's strenghs over Dorian couldn't tip the scales in his favor, because Arnold was still pretty awesome at them, too. For instance, Oliva had a better taper in most front shots than Arnold, but Arnold's taper was still fucking awesome. Oliva's back was more separated than Arnold's and attached lower, but Arnold compensated for this by having greater width&thickess. Oliva's delts were more proportionally developed than Arnold's, but Schwarzenegger had big front delsts, giving him and edge in the most muscular. Arnold had an advantage in size, and that tipped the scales in his favor. Regardless, I give major props to Arnold for having faced a bodybuider that seemed like he was genetically enginnered for bodybuilding perfection, and managed to defeat him. The true testament to Arnold's greatness was not that he defeated lesser foes with ease, but that he managed to defeat the single bodybuilder in history possesed of genetics to defeat him. Now that is Arnold's claim to immortality. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Well put!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Playboy on November 22, 2006, 07:43:01 PM
Arnold was 28! It was one of the first things said on Pumping Iron! Pay attention to what the guy that is interviewing Arnold says.
Oh excuse me...I was off by one year.....makes no difference. he's an old man now and people need to realize that. You're not gonna look like a 28 year old when your 59.

PB
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 23, 2006, 04:47:06 AM
Oh excuse me...I was off by one year.....makes no difference. he's an old man now and people need to realize that. You're not gonna look like a 28 year old when your 59.

PB

Exactly! I don't know why people expect him to STILL look as good as he did when he was in his 20's. Granted, he may not be as well shaped as say, maybe Stallone, but Sylvester Stallone doesn't have 7 Mr. Olympia titles, 5 Mr. Universe, and a Mr. World. So if Arnold wants to get "fat" or however he wants to look, then whatever. We STILL hail him to this day no matter what he looks like to this day - at least I do.  8)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: BEAST 8692 on November 23, 2006, 06:45:49 AM
Exactly! I don't know why people expect him to STILL look as good as he did when he was in his 20's. Granted, he may not be as well shaped as say, maybe Stallone, but Sylvester Stallone doesn't have 7 Mr. Olympia titles, 5 Mr. Universe, and a Mr. World. So if Arnold wants to get "fat" or however he wants to look, then whatever. We STILL hail him to this day no matter what he looks like to this day - at least I do.  8)

exactly. the man is retired and is pursuing other things. i'm sure he could get into very good shape in a month if he wanted to.

punyster is a bitter and twisted old fart that constantly attempts to hijack threads with his negative rant. this dickhead is obsessed with the notion of racism in bodybuilding despite the fact that 3 of the greatest and most celebrated mr olympias were dark skinned. actually they were probably all relatively dark skinned with competition tan eg. jay cutler...annnnyway, congrats to everyone else who managed to keep THIS thread positive and on track despite punyster's best efforts. 8)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 23, 2006, 06:51:25 AM
exactly. the man is retired and is pursuing other things. i'm sure he could get into very good shape in a month if he wanted to.

punyster is a bitter and twisted old fart that constantly attempts to hijack threads with his negative rant. this dickhead is obsessed with the notion of racism in bodybuilding despite the fact that 3 of the greatest and most celebrated mr olympias were dark skinned. actually they were probably all relatively dark skinned with competition tan eg. jay cutler...annnnyway, congrats to everyone else who managed to keep THIS thread positive and on track despite punyster's best efforts. 8)

Ha Ha Ha pumpster just got owned not truer words have been spoken !!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Sergio Rules 77 on November 23, 2006, 02:11:17 PM
Imagine Arnold with Ronnie's contest ready condition!

Imagine Arnold with Sergio's muscularity ;D

SERGIO!!!!!!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 23, 2006, 02:16:00 PM
Imagine Arnold with Sergio's muscularity ;D

SERGIO!!!!!!

lol

how about Flex Wheeler with Sergio's muscularity?!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Meltdown on November 23, 2006, 02:17:10 PM
Arnold at his best was always better tha Sergio at his best,and I am not a great Arnold fan just giving him credit.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Sergio Rules 77 on November 23, 2006, 02:26:25 PM
lol

how about Flex Wheeler with Sergio's muscularity?!

Imagine that :o. Could the human body reach that level of perfection ?.

SERGIO!!!!!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pumpster on November 23, 2006, 02:29:57 PM
Quote
Quote from: BEAST 8692 on Today at 09:45:49 AM
exactly. the man is retired and is pursuing other things. i'm sure he could get into very good shape in a month if he wanted to.

punyster is a bitter and twisted old fart that constantly attempts to hijack threads with his negative rant. this dickhead is obsessed with the notion of racism in bodybuilding despite the fact that 3 of the greatest and most celebrated mr olympias were dark skinned. actually they were probably all relatively dark skinned with competition tan eg. jay cutler...annnnyway, congrats to everyone else who managed to keep THIS thread positive and on track despite punyster's best efforts.


Ha Ha Ha pumpster just got owned not truer words have been spoken !!


Basically these 2 dinks take turns stalking-notice there is ZERO content. hahahaahahahahahah

2 fags taking turns patting one another's asses.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 23, 2006, 06:07:15 PM
Could the human body reach that level of perfection ?.

Enter Arnold....  ;D
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 23, 2006, 06:12:43 PM
Oliva's back was more separated than Arnold's and attached lower, but Arnold compensated for this by having greater width&thickess. Oliva's delts were more proportionally developed than Arnold's, but Schwarzenegger had big front delts, giving him and edge in the most muscular.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

ROFLMAO.

HTH
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 23, 2006, 06:16:31 PM
Arnold at his finest !
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Sergio Rules 77 on November 23, 2006, 06:34:08 PM
Enter Arnold....  ;D

Oh please, here are pics of both men at their respective peaks. I hope this settles all debate on the matter ;D.


(http://www.governorgirlieman.com/bik.jpg) (http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so155.jpg)


SERGIO!!!!!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 23, 2006, 08:55:07 PM
Im too lazy to see if this pic has been posted on this thread already
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Whiskey on November 23, 2006, 08:57:16 PM
 8)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: pobrecito on November 23, 2006, 09:01:48 PM
Does anybody know if this shot is morphed? Reason I ask is, my gym has this very same picture of out Flex magazine and Arnold looks significantly smaller.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=75772.0;attach=87115;image)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: figgs on November 23, 2006, 10:49:34 PM
 :)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 24, 2006, 03:16:55 PM
:)

Awesome! I've never seen that top one before, that is why he is the best!
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Bast000 on November 24, 2006, 03:18:01 PM
all drugs
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: TimmyToughNuts on November 24, 2006, 03:22:28 PM
little bast


I have been reading these boards in the shadow for years now


I find it a bit odd how much you emulate mr ables


Can you not make friends at home little guy

I wonder at time if the getbig message forums gave you a place you feel you belong


You are part of something


For the first time


You are free
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: alexxx on November 24, 2006, 03:24:08 PM
little bast


I have been reading these boards in the shadow for years now


I find it a bit odd how much you emulate mr ables


Can you not make friends at home little guy

I wonder at time if the getbig message forums gave you a place you feel you belong


You are part of something


For the first time


You are free


He is bound by the shackles of his gay  lover adonis.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on November 24, 2006, 03:25:25 PM
He is bound by the shackles of his gay  lover adonis.

What else is new????
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: TimmyToughNuts on November 24, 2006, 03:28:14 PM
He is bound by the shackles of his gay  lover adonis.


He cannot get away

You are a wise man
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Bast000 on November 24, 2006, 03:30:06 PM
little bast


I have been reading these boards in the shadow for years now


I find it a bit odd how much you emulate mr ables


Can you not make friends at home little guy

I wonder at time if the getbig message forums gave you a place you feel you belong


You are part of something


For the first time


You are free


what
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: TimmyToughNuts on November 24, 2006, 03:30:58 PM
I am a right left type of bloke


You would never understand
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: rccs on November 27, 2006, 06:13:29 AM
what
ALL DRUGS  ???
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Gord on November 27, 2006, 02:32:59 PM
back to the pics.

Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Gord on November 27, 2006, 02:37:17 PM
Couple more.

Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: DVSGOD on November 28, 2006, 01:20:32 AM
GROUNDBREACKING PIC!!!!!!!!! :o THIS SHOULD END THE DEBATE ON BEST BODYBUILDER EVER!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed , that front double bi blows Sergio away ,
Sergio was a freak but Arnold had somthing more.Both great champions but Arnold is the King , even now Id choose him over the bloated messes that repersent our sport.Bring back the 70s and early 80s I say.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Figo on November 28, 2006, 02:20:27 AM
This George Butler was a good photog.
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: Slick Vic on November 28, 2006, 05:38:54 AM
This George Butler was a good photog.

Aside from Albert Busek, George Butler took a lot of pictures of Arnold in his "natural atmosphere". No studio set-up, just what Arnold was doing at that very moment. George has gone on record saying that during the filming of Pumping Iron, Arnold's facial expression was natural, after Arnold started taking acting lessons he noticed a change in Arnold - he was more conscious of his expressions. These natural expressions were captured on Pumping Iron and in pictures, something perhaps we'll NEVER see again.

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery3/m192.jpg)
Title: Re: schwarzenegger
Post by: GoneAway on November 28, 2006, 05:48:16 AM
Aside from Albert Busek, George Butler took a lot of pictures of Arnold in his "natural atmosphere". No studio set-up, just what Arnold was doing at that very moment. George has gone on record saying that during the filming of Pumping Iron, Arnold's facial expression was natural, after Arnold started taking acting lessons he noticed a change in Arnold - he was more conscious of his expressions. These natural expressions were captured on Pumping Iron and in pictures, something perhaps we'll NEVER see again.

Great find! Look at his arm! Smokes Dillett in that pic with Jay, as Dillett had more bodyfat on him.

It's like a cyborg arm... more pics from Butler, please. :)