That last pic & this one, remind us how much of it was artificial. Bigger difference than some other guys who are genuinely for real off or on. Nice tennis player look without the roids.Sheepish grin because he knows it too.
Imagine Arnold with Ronnie's contest ready condition!
He's not black he's Cuban
A personal fave.
Arnold and Sergio are so close, but have very different physiques. You could say Arnold looked smaller than Sergio, but he made that up with superior conditioning and posing style. In a tight battle, you go with who's most conditioned.
You do realize he's in his sixties, don't you?PB
Oliva's conditioning at his best was just fine. The only problem is the dearth of good pics showing this, in younger years. Most see a lot of older pics and make assumptions.
Early 50s there...your assessment just added 10-15 years.
He was 29 when he made Pumping Iron in 1975. That would make him 60. Do the math. Does everyone expect him to be fully jacked at that age. The man has had a stellar career in bbdg, acting and now he's a governer. I highly doubt he has time to piss let alone train.PB
He was already out of the Weider loop by the early 70s, just as Draper was. After which time they were featured only occasionally in lesser mags like Muscle Training, Lurie's mag. Those shots are few and far between.How many gym & training shots have you seen of Oliva from the early-mid 70s? The kind of Schwarzenegger gym shots that were featured each month in Weider's mag and are now common online?Big difference in photo quality & quantity.
I've never seen Sergio anymore conditioned than Arnold. He had alot of mass, but in the back shots (among others) Arnold was his father.Let's see some of those pics. I found a couple from the late 70's, and he looks pretty average.
The young Arnold Schwarzenegger doing an impromptu posing exhibition after the 1966 Mr. Universe during the dinner/dancing ceremony.
You've misinterpreted what was posted. Can't help you on that.
Born in '47, pic taken late 90s during a long movie career filled with plenty of idle time to train in a huge trailer brought to movie sets filled with his own gym equipment. Didn't have a full-time job until becoming governor. Do the math, and cut out the defensiveness. He doesn't have to be perfect to be your hero.