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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SteelePegasus on December 09, 2006, 12:43:46 PM
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I downloaded the Mike Mentzer's video and watched it for the first time, I have so many questions
1. Is marcus naturally? that is the guy that he used in the video to perform the exercises
2. He advocated training a body part every 6 days, and even said taking 8 days off was better. With that said. you would train a body part like 12-15 times per year. Did miss something or is this correct?
3. He also advocated zero cardio, which is fine but if you are in the gym once every 6 days how do you stay cut?
4. Never use the ez curl bar as it doesn't work the bicep
5. Remove all momentum
6. The last rep is the most important rep as it is the "growth rep"
how many people here train like this?
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yeah, the bicep muscle doesn't contract at all with the EZ bar but it contracts completely with the straight bar. ::)
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yeah, the bicep muscle doesn't contract at all with the EZ bar but it contracts completely with the straight bar. ::)
lol, he was pretty adamant about it
he did have Marcus crying from pain
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I downloaded the Mike Mentzer's video and watched it for the first time, I have so many questions
1. Is marcus naturally? that is the guy that he used in the video to perform the exercises
2. He advocated training a body part every 6 days, and even said taking 8 days off was better. With that said. you would train a body part like 12-15 times per year. Did miss something or is this correct?
3. He also advocated zero cardio, which is fine but if you are in the gym once every 6 days how do you stay cut?
4. Never use the ez curl bar as it doesn't work the bicep
5. Remove all momentum
6. The last rep is the most important rep as it is the "growth rep"
how many people here train like this?
I train HIT.
Hmm well first of all I do a lot of cardio since I have a lot of off days. I hardly burn any calories from my 10 minute workouts plus I have a slow metabolism. Not only that but I actually enjoy cardio and have done it regularly for a very long time.
I don't know if Markus is natural or not.
I train each muscle every 7-8 days. Works fine for me!
No momentum is very intense!
The last rep is indeed the most important. I can't have a gap between the end of my set and absolute failure.
I'll use the EZ bar if I have to but I never really liked it anyway.
I have an HIT log in the training boards check it out. It's going to be updated tonight.
Also, where did you download the video? I'd love to watch it!
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2. He advocated training a body part every 6 days, and even said taking 8 days off was better. With that said. you would train a body part like 12-15 times per year. Did miss something or is this correct?
the reason he does this is because the intensity fucks up the central nervous system that takes a shitload of time to heal.
IF this is the "only" way to grow, or the best way - then it would make sense. however, most people on all levels gained their results without training anywhere near what metzer does or the guy in this video.
because of this you cannot train very often and so you will grow slower than if you would train more often.
4. Never use the ez curl bar as it doesn't work the bicep
it works the biceps but not as good as a straight bar, but it's easier on the joints.
6. The last rep is the most important rep as it is the "growth rep"
or maybe all reps counts. and all sets. maybe it's even essentials you get a good number of sets in in order to make all muscle fibrers come into play and you're selling yourself short with his theory...
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the reason he does this is because the intensity fucks up the central nervous system that takes a shitload of time to heal.
IF this is the "only" way to grow, or the best way - then it would make sense. however, most people on all levels gained their results without training anywhere near what metzer does or the guy in this video.
because of this you cannot train very often and so you will grow slower than if you would train more often.
it works the biceps but not as good as a straight bar, but it's easier on the joints.
or maybe all reps counts. and all sets. maybe it's even essentials you get a good number of sets in in order to make all muscle fibrers come into play and you're selling yourself short with his theory...
Everything is well put but your take on muscle fiber recruitment.
It's not the amount of sets that determine how many muscle fibers are fatigued, but how close to absolute failure you reach. It's pretty clear, I mean, if you can't raise, hold AND lower the weight, obviously all possible available muscle fibers are fucked.
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Figgs, here you go
http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=bodybuilding
everything you can want is there
I then covert them the .mpg, I refuse to install real player
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well that's where we disagree. i believe it's the number of sets, not failure.
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well that's where we disagree. i believe it's the number of sets, not failure.
Belief<science
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Figgs, here you go
http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=bodybuilding
everything you can want is there
I then covert them the .mpg, I refuse to install real player
Thanks bud!
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Belief<science
yeah we all know mentzer claimed science backed him up, i dont think it did.
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yeah we all know mentzer claimed science backed him up, i dont think it did.
Mentzer was a genius. To think he would have dedicated his life to bodybuilding and create a set of false principles, spoiling the legacy he made such a great effort to achieve is just ridiculous to me.
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i dont think he was a genious. and there's a lot of claims that proved to be wrong in general in bodybuilding, in nutrition etc just in recent years.
how many train according to his principles? i cant hardly think of one single pro.
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let says his theories isnt right. let's say 99,9 percent of all bodybuilders got their muscle mass from NOT training like mentzer.
then what? what makes him a genious then?
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hey Figgs, post a link to your training journal, I would like to check it out
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how do you define training hard? i'd like to see any bodybuilder train the way a marathon runner does, or a greco roman wrestler.
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let says his theories isnt right. let's say 99,9 percent of all bodybuilders got their muscle mass from NOT training like mentzer.
then what? what makes him a genious then?
True, but HIT is for maximum results (which I'm experiencing right now!).
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Figgs, here you go
http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=bodybuilding
everything you can want is there
I then covert them the .mpg, I refuse to install real player
Can someone explain to me how to use torrent? I have mac os X!
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hey Figgs, post a link to your training journal, I would like to check it out
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105394.0
:)
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True, but HIT is for maximum results (which I'm experiencing right now!).
you can get results from a number of different ways. let's say one of them enabled you to work more frequently, maybe 2-3 times HIT in a year, then HIT must be at least 2-3 times as good, otherwise your gains would be slower compared to the other method.
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Can someone explain to me how to use torrent? I have mac os X!
Sure Alexxx, you will need a bit torrent client to download a torrent file
I personally prefer
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
but there are tons out there.
if you want to learn more here you go
http://dessent.net/btfaq/
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Alexx is is actually pretty simple once you have a client installed
you go to torrent site like
www.mininova.org
and do a search...I download a ton of computer programming ebooks from there also movies and music...
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105394.0
:)
dude how can you build muscle with one working set..high volume is the best thing out there..just my opinion though
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earlier it took me an hour and 15 minutes to finish my workouts..nowdays i finish my workouts in 40-45 minutes with 5 exercises with 4 sets each with minimum rest possible..only for 1 exercise i do 3 sets..i also kinda squeeze in a 1 or 2 sets in each exercise..this is my way of high volume training
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4. Never use the ez curl bar as it doesn't work the bicep
ronnie, who has arguably the best bis of all time, the ez curl bar is his favorite.
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Sure Alexxx, you will need a bit torrent client to download a torrent file
I personally prefer
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
but there are tons out there.
if you want to learn more here you go
http://dessent.net/btfaq/
Cool thanks bro!
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ronnie, who has arguably the best bis of all time, the ez curl bar is his favorite.
nope ronnie curls on the straight bar in his offseason..only pre-contest he uses an ez bar to avoid any injuries..ronnie has always curled on the straight bar
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nope ronnie curls on the straight bar in his offseason..only pre-contest he uses an ez bar to avoid any injuries..ronnie has always curled on the straight bar
preacher curl is his favorite bi exercise, i know this for a fact.
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preacher curl is his favorite bi exercise, i know this for a fact.
yep your right..he does the preacher on an ez bar
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I downloaded the Mike Mentzer's video and watched it for the first time, I have so many questions
1. Is marcus naturally? that is the guy that he used in the video to perform the exercises
2. He advocated training a body part every 6 days, and even said taking 8 days off was better. With that said. you would train a body part like 12-15 times per year. Did miss something or is this correct?
3. He also advocated zero cardio, which is fine but if you are in the gym once every 6 days how do you stay cut?
4. Never use the ez curl bar as it doesn't work the bicep
5. Remove all momentum
6. The last rep is the most important rep as it is the "growth rep"
how many people here train like this?
1. The guy in the video is Markus Reinhardt. He doesn't take steroid but takes Andro products.. He advertises them in the video.
2. He advocates taking that many days because he believes that is how many days it takes for the muscle to recover and then grow. If a natural works that muscle out again within an average of six days, the muscle will not have enough time for optimal recovery and growth.
3. In the video, he advocates not doing cardio to warm up before weight training. The warm up should be done with the warm up sets he shows in the video.
4. He states the EZ curl bar works the brachialis a great deal, rather than work the bicep optimally. He states he prefers the Nautilus Curl for an optimal bicep workout, but the straight bar is fine.
5. Right remove all momentum. The muscle should be in continuously worked out with no break and no extra momentum. This is for an optimal workout and also to prevent injury.
6. The last rep is the hardest, and will "trigger" the body to grow that particular muscle, or muscles.
I train like this and have had great results.
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what is your training split like
week 1 chest + tri
week 2 back + bi
week 3 leg + shoulders
so potentially you are training 1 body part per month?
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Chest and Back
4-7 days later: Legs and abs
4-7 days later: Shoulders and Arms
4-7 days later: Legs and abs again
Then start the cycle over.
So yes, potentially (taking maximum amount of days in between) you could only be training chest, back, arms, and shoulders once a month. But this would be for the advanced bodybuilder.
The advanced bodybuilder would need more days to rest because they can create greater intensity, which would mean that you would need more rest.
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Chest and Back
4-7 days later: Legs and abs
4-7 days later: Shoulders and Arms
4-7 days later: Legs and abs again
Then start the cycle over.
So yes, potentially (taking maximum amount of days in between) you could only be training chest, back, arms, and shoulders once a month. But this would be for the advanced bodybuilder.
The advanced bodybuilder would need more days to rest because they can create greater intensity, which would mean that you would need more rest.
Nice to see someone else with a pair of balls between their legs.
How long have you been using HIT? How's your intensity?
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man, how do you stay away from the gym for that long. Also how do you stay lean?
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Nice to see someone else with a pair of balls between their legs.
How long have you been using HIT? How's your intensity?
About 1.5 years. In the beginning I wasn't too intense because most people in the gyms, even the long-timers, don't go that intense. So, when you train to failure, you stand out. Plus, you get worried during the last couple of reps, scared of "hurting yourself" even though it's next to impossible.
Now my intensity is insane, no fear, perfect form and tempo.
What about you?
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man, how do you stay away from the gym for that long. Also how do you stay lean?
When you train that intense, your muscles are sore for days. Especially after leg day, you don't want to go back to the gym for a while.
Plus, I know that it would be wrong for me to go back because it would be counterproductive. That knowledge keeps me away from the gym. Also, we all have other interests so the gym isn't the world to me.
I stay lean by eating a low or maintenance calorie, well balanced diet. You won't get fat unless you eat excess calories.
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About 1.5 years. In the beginning I wasn't too intense because most people in the gyms, even the long-timers, don't go that intense. So, when you train to failure, you stand out. Plus, you get worried during the last couple of reps, scared of "hurting yourself" even though it's next to impossible.
Now my intensity is insane, no fear, perfect form and tempo.
What about you?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105394.0
Here's my HIT log from the training board. (just updated)
I started HIT only about a month ago. I was always extremely intense with my workouts but this is on a whole other level. And this type of training suits me well. I love a challenge. From the get-go I knew this routine would give me results, so I decided to share my experiences with other Getbiggers.
Yeah, I know what you mean about standing out. People always have a reaction to my training. Some will say I'm showing off, others will say I'm out of my fucking mind. hahaha I'm sometimes commended for my efforts but most people just don't understand. I don't care. I love it. I love knowing I train harder than anyone else at my gym, and I go to a very professional gym.
I'm not too scared of injuries because I take all the precautions I can. Tearing a muscle off the tendon is my worst nightmare and I do good to avoid it.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105394.0
Here's my HIT log from the training board. (just updated)
I started HIT only about a month ago. I was always extremely intense with my workouts but this is on a whole other level. And this type of training suits me well. I love a challenge. From the get-go I knew this routine would give me results, so I decided to share my experiences with other Getbiggers.
Yeah, I know what you mean about standing out. People always have a reaction to my training. Some will say I'm showing off, others will say I'm out of my fucking mind. hahaha I'm sometimes commended for my efforts but most people just don't understand. I don't care. I love it. I love knowing I train harder than anyone else at my gym, and I go to a very professional gym.
I'm not too scared of injuries because I take all the precautions I can. Tearing a muscle off the tendon is my worst nightmare and I do good to avoid it.
Yeah that's a pretty similar experience to mine.
If you warm up properly, use proper form, and use a slow tempo, you won't get injured. The last rep is the safest rep because your muscle is so warmed up, so no worries.
Good luck and keep it up.
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Yeah that's a pretty similar experience to mine.
If you warm up properly, use proper form, and use a slow tempo, you won't get injured. The last rep is the safest rep because your muscle is so warmed up, so no worries.
Good luck and keep it up.
Seeing as you're new to posting, welcome to Getbig. :)
You're right about that. Everytime I've ever injured myself during a set was during the first 4 reps or so.
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The guy he trained in the Video Marcus is a natural yes. He competes in natural shows anyway.
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5. Right remove all momentum. The muscle should be in continuously worked out with no break and no extra momentum. This is for an optimal workout and also to prevent injury.
Care to explain how it is possible to move a weight without momentum? Maybe Mr Mentzer should have picked up a physics book before talking about eliminating momentum when lifting weights.
Or can somebody please explain this to me.
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Care to explain how it is possible to move a weight without momentum? Maybe Mr Mentzer should have picked up a physics book before talking about eliminating momentum when lifting weights.
Or can somebody please explain this to me.
move the weight slow enough that all extermal stimuli has been removed..he usually uses a 4 second count.
basically you control the rate of inertia
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move the weight slow enough that all extermal stimuli has been removed..he usually uses a 4 second count.
basically you control the rate of inertia
Yeah inertia, but momentum still takes place. Like I said, he mixed up the terms big time. And I still don't see the benefit of a slow movement.
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The guy he trained in the Video Marcus is a natural yes. He competes in natural shows anyway.
If he's natural then WOW. He looks great in that video. I wonder how long he's been using HIT.
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If he's natural then WOW. He looks great in that video. I wonder how long he's been using HIT.
He looks decent at best. I have two training partners that would burry him and they are volume trainers. one has 18 1/2 inch arms and the other over 19 at about 10% bodyfat!
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He looks decent at best. I have two training partners that would burry him and they are volume trainers. one has 18 1/2 inch arms and the other over 19 at about 10% bodyfat!
everyone has a training buddy that is incredible...lets talk about you. You are one on here talking smack. You came in next to last in an online cyber contest...get your weight up young man
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He looks decent at best. I have two training partners that would burry him and they are volume trainers. one has 18 1/2 inch arms and the other over 19 at about 10% bodyfat!
but just think about how big they could be if they trained like mentzer!!!!!!!
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but just think about how big they could be if they trained like mentzer!!!!!!!
Yeah they trained mentzer style for a while and didn't like it because their weights went way down and they didn't get much out of it. Those geniuses where doing 6 second negatives and positives, LITERALLY!!
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yeah we all know mentzer claimed science backed him up, i dont think it did.
Actually it does.
Mentzer is correct on his training and everything else.
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When you train that intense, your muscles are sore for days. Especially after leg day, you don't want to go back to the gym for a while.
Plus, I know that it would be wrong for me to go back because it would be counterproductive. That knowledge keeps me away from the gym. Also, we all have other interests so the gym isn't the world to me.
I stay lean by eating a low or maintenance calorie, well balanced diet. You won't get fat unless you eat excess calories.
Exactly.
When people realize all of this, they will see how EASY bodybuilding really is.
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To say Mentzer was a genious is a little much, but he def was a very intelligent man who thought about what he was doing.But he was also psychotic and a drug addict...
I think he has a lot of good points regarding training and i use a lot of them myself.Thanks for the vid. link!
Peace
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Exactly.
When people realize all of this, they will see how EASY bodybuilding really is.
wtf i thought you were a high volume trainer like daddywaddy
whats with the 112x225deadlifts? or the 100 upright rows
more bullshit by true adonis
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Exactly.
When people realize all of this, they will see how EASY bodybuilding really is.
Then why the hell do you look the way you look if its so easy.
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Then why the hell do you look the way you look if its so easy.
maybe this is the "before picture" phase
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Then why the hell do you look the way you look if its so easy.
I have what the Greeks would call PERFECT Symmetry and proportions based upon the Grecian Ideal of Measurements of various statues crafted by the masters.
It is this one should strive to attain. I have done so and am very pleased.
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I have what the Greeks would call PERFECT Symmetry and proportions based upon the Grecian Ideal of Measurements of various statues crafted by the masters.
It is this one should strive to attain. I have done so and am very pleased.
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wtf i thought you were a high volume trainer like daddywaddy
whats with the 112x225deadlifts? or the 100 upright rows
more bullshit by true adonis
I do both. I usually go to the gym 2-3 days a week.
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Arms and Claves are too big for the Grecian Ideal to work in that picture. Proportions are way off.
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Arms and Claves are too big for the Grecian Ideal to work in that picture. Proportions are way off.
lol, no man has ever said those words before
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lol, no man has ever said those words before
Eugene Sandow, Michelangelo, Da Vinci.
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Eugene Sandow, Michelangelo, Da Vinci.
I seriously doubt that Da Vinci's arms were ever over 12"
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I seriously doubt that Da Vinci's arms were ever over 12"
When sculpting or painting, everything was to remain in proportion.
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When sculpting or painting, everything was to remain in proportion.
when you win a contest then talk to us...until then do like most Germans in a fight, stay undercover and hide.
They talk and talk but in the end they always lose and pretend that they won...You are one notch above the French :'(
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when you win a contest then talk to us...until then do like most Germans in a fight, stay undercover and hide.
They talk and talk but in the end they always lose and pretend that they won...You are one notch above the French :'(
ok "steele pegasus", if it weren't for being stretched thin on the Eastern front fighting the Russians the Nazis would have crushed us in WW2.
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mike was simply applying what doctors, neurologists and biologists discovered and applied it to weight training.
from first principles a muscle grows to cope with every increasing demand.
on the other hand the brain learns a repetitive job and recruits less and less muscle fibres to do the same work.
similarly the body will not respond to work that is sub maximal.
and for specific body parts full muscular recruitment requires moverments that are mechanically disadvantageous ro difficult. hence EX curl bar...ever wonder why it's called EZ?...its because the wrist is not pronated and ends up recruiting forearm and front delts to do the work.
mike went wrong when others tried to simplistically take each point he made out of context as well as show anecodotal evidence in the form of BBers taking copious amounts of agents which in reality can be adjusted themselves to alter the human body's needs.
assuming all is equal, any person applying these first principle tactics will grow superior to any other approach.
this is because all other approaches are further away from how the human body was designed.
its not a series of black unrelated boxes...here wehave the muscular system, the nervous system here, cardiovascualr system over there...they are all holistically and dynamically linked....
the human body is designed to deploy actions to cope with situations and that could be recruitment of any combo of any part of the body...sometimes muscular system growth isnt needed...
from there mike went on to explain how important it is to not just apply the principles, but how to objectively measure them.
by doing this, he argued, one can keep an eye on trends and things that are changing, and identify opportunities for adjustment.
as a trainer, we only can adjust several variables...but they are all we need.. sleep (or rest), food (qty/quality/calorific balance (i.e. fat/prot/carb), mineral and vitamin levels, and workout frequency.
think of a control board that is taking in results of a series of tests 24/7, 365/year..... you get all these results and then tweak some knobs and press some buttons to try and keep the results going in the right direction.
it getting obese was your goal, you could apply this same approach. obviously key indicators would be bodyweight and bodyfat levels.
hey you could use mike's principles to get the fattest ever in the shortest time frame!
so before you go ranting and bagging the great works mike did, please make sure you understand it.
the problem is that only bits of HIT went in to people's ears..and they couldnt grasp the complex nature of it.
its alongside the levels of a biomechanical engineer or practicing geneticist...not a BB monkey or physical trainer or pro bb even.
the guy deserves great credit and reward for patience in having to deal with people all his life who just didnt understand him. I'm sure he wouldve loved presenting to a graduate medical college of student and people who truly understood his work....unfortunately he was preaching to what is arguable one of the dumbest sub culture of sport known....a big task which is why this topic comes up over and over at getbig.
later.
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Just watched that video, Ol Mike was kind of crotchety for his age wasn't he?
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I have what the Greeks would call PERFECT Symmetry and proportions based upon the Grecian Ideal of Measurements of various statues crafted by the masters.
It is this one should strive to attain. I have done so and am very pleased.
No, you have compared yourself to a couple of recent (comparitively) sculptors' visions of what the Grecian ideal was.
Further, you've done nothing to show that this Grecian ideal is the correct one.
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Actually it does.
Mentzer is correct on his training and everything else.
Prove this.
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I just watched the film.
Uhhhhhhhh is Mentzer gay?
"Yes, I like that look in your eye"
"No need to warm up, you're already hot"
"Look at those pecs"
Along with all these things being said with his creepy voice, he touched Marcus in ways I'd personally feel uncomfortable with.
And he looks slightly turned on while he watched Marcus' muscles working during the workout.
Just an observation...
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mike was simply applying what doctors, neurologists and biologists discovered and applied it to weight training.
from first principles a muscle grows to cope with every increasing demand.
on the other hand the brain learns a repetitive job and recruits less and less muscle fibres to do the same work.
similarly the body will not respond to work that is sub maximal.
and for specific body parts full muscular recruitment requires moverments that are mechanically disadvantageous ro difficult. hence EX curl bar...ever wonder why it's called EZ?...its because the wrist is not pronated and ends up recruiting forearm and front delts to do the work.
mike went wrong when others tried to simplistically take each point he made out of context as well as show anecodotal evidence in the form of BBers taking copious amounts of agents which in reality can be adjusted themselves to alter the human body's needs.
assuming all is equal, any person applying these first principle tactics will grow superior to any other approach.
this is because all other approaches are further away from how the human body was designed.
its not a series of black unrelated boxes...here wehave the muscular system, the nervous system here, cardiovascualr system over there...they are all holistically and dynamically linked....
the human body is designed to deploy actions to cope with situations and that could be recruitment of any combo of any part of the body...sometimes muscular system growth isnt needed...
from there mike went on to explain how important it is to not just apply the principles, but how to objectively measure them.
by doing this, he argued, one can keep an eye on trends and things that are changing, and identify opportunities for adjustment.
as a trainer, we only can adjust several variables...but they are all we need.. sleep (or rest), food (qty/quality/calorific balance (i.e. fat/prot/carb), mineral and vitamin levels, and workout frequency.
think of a control board that is taking in results of a series of tests 24/7, 365/year..... you get all these results and then tweak some knobs and press some buttons to try and keep the results going in the right direction.
it getting obese was your goal, you could apply this same approach. obviously key indicators would be bodyweight and bodyfat levels.
hey you could use mike's principles to get the fattest ever in the shortest time frame!
so before you go ranting and bagging the great works mike did, please make sure you understand it.
the problem is that only bits of HIT went in to people's ears..and they couldnt grasp the complex nature of it.
its alongside the levels of a biomechanical engineer or practicing geneticist...not a BB monkey or physical trainer or pro bb even.
the guy deserves great credit and reward for patience in having to deal with people all his life who just didnt understand him. I'm sure he wouldve loved presenting to a graduate medical college of student and people who truly understood his work....unfortunately he was preaching to what is arguable one of the dumbest sub culture of sport known....a big task which is why this topic comes up over and over at getbig.
later.
Exactly.
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mike was simply applying what doctors, neurologists and biologists discovered and applied it to weight training.
from first principles a muscle grows to cope with every increasing demand.
on the other hand the brain learns a repetitive job and recruits less and less muscle fibres to do the same work.
similarly the body will not respond to work that is sub maximal.
and for specific body parts full muscular recruitment requires moverments that are mechanically disadvantageous ro difficult. hence EX curl bar...ever wonder why it's called EZ?...its because the wrist is not pronated and ends up recruiting forearm and front delts to do the work.
mike went wrong when others tried to simplistically take each point he made out of context as well as show anecodotal evidence in the form of BBers taking copious amounts of agents which in reality can be adjusted themselves to alter the human body's needs.
assuming all is equal, any person applying these first principle tactics will grow superior to any other approach.
this is because all other approaches are further away from how the human body was designed.
its not a series of black unrelated boxes...here wehave the muscular system, the nervous system here, cardiovascualr system over there...they are all holistically and dynamically linked....
the human body is designed to deploy actions to cope with situations and that could be recruitment of any combo of any part of the body...sometimes muscular system growth isnt needed...
from there mike went on to explain how important it is to not just apply the principles, but how to objectively measure them.
by doing this, he argued, one can keep an eye on trends and things that are changing, and identify opportunities for adjustment.
as a trainer, we only can adjust several variables...but they are all we need.. sleep (or rest), food (qty/quality/calorific balance (i.e. fat/prot/carb), mineral and vitamin levels, and workout frequency.
think of a control board that is taking in results of a series of tests 24/7, 365/year..... you get all these results and then tweak some knobs and press some buttons to try and keep the results going in the right direction.
it getting obese was your goal, you could apply this same approach. obviously key indicators would be bodyweight and bodyfat levels.
hey you could use mike's principles to get the fattest ever in the shortest time frame!
so before you go ranting and bagging the great works mike did, please make sure you understand it.
the problem is that only bits of HIT went in to people's ears..and they couldnt grasp the complex nature of it.
its alongside the levels of a biomechanical engineer or practicing geneticist...not a BB monkey or physical trainer or pro bb even.
the guy deserves great credit and reward for patience in having to deal with people all his life who just didnt understand him. I'm sure he wouldve loved presenting to a graduate medical college of student and people who truly understood his work....unfortunately he was preaching to what is arguable one of the dumbest sub culture of sport known....a big task which is why this topic comes up over and over at getbig.
later.
All the knowledge is provided to those who doubt HIT. Now all that's left before they're convinced is whether or not they have the balls to try it for themselves.