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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2006, 02:09:35 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2006, 02:10:34 PM »
ronnie, who has arguably the best bis of all time, the ez curl bar is his favorite.
nope ronnie curls on the straight bar in his offseason..only pre-contest he uses an ez bar to avoid any injuries..ronnie has always curled on the straight bar
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2006, 02:11:31 PM »
nope ronnie curls on the straight bar in his offseason..only pre-contest he uses an ez bar to avoid any injuries..ronnie has always curled on the straight bar
preacher curl is his favorite bi exercise, i know this for a fact.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2006, 02:13:57 PM »
preacher curl is his favorite bi exercise, i know this for a fact.
yep your right..he does the preacher on an ez bar
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2006, 04:21:26 PM »
I downloaded the Mike Mentzer's video and watched it for the first time, I have so many questions

1. Is marcus naturally? that is the guy that he used in the video to perform the exercises

2. He advocated training a body part every 6 days, and even said taking 8 days off was better. With that said. you would train a body part like 12-15 times per year.  Did miss something or is this correct?

3. He also advocated zero cardio, which is fine but if you are in the gym once every 6 days how do you stay cut?

4. Never use the ez curl bar as it doesn't work the bicep

5. Remove all momentum

6. The last rep is the most important rep as it is the "growth rep"

how many people here train like this?

1. The guy in the video is Markus Reinhardt. He doesn't take steroid but takes Andro products.. He advertises them in the video.

2. He advocates taking that many days because he believes that is how many days it takes for the muscle to recover and then grow. If a natural works that muscle out again within an average of six days, the muscle will not have enough time for optimal recovery and growth.

3. In the video, he advocates not doing cardio to warm up before weight training. The warm up should be done with the warm up sets he shows in the video.

4. He states the EZ curl bar works the brachialis a great deal, rather than work the bicep optimally. He states he prefers the Nautilus Curl for an optimal bicep workout, but the straight bar is fine.

5. Right remove all momentum. The muscle should be in continuously worked out with no break and no extra momentum. This is for an optimal workout and also to prevent injury.

6. The last rep is the hardest, and will "trigger" the body to grow that particular muscle, or muscles.

I train like this and have had great results.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2006, 05:15:35 PM »
what is your training split like

week 1 chest + tri
week 2 back + bi
week 3 leg + shoulders

so potentially you are training 1 body part per month?


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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2006, 05:48:45 PM »
Chest and Back
4-7 days later: Legs and abs
4-7 days later: Shoulders and Arms
4-7 days later: Legs and abs again

Then start the cycle over.

So yes, potentially (taking maximum amount of days in between) you could only be training chest, back, arms, and shoulders once a month. But this would be for the advanced bodybuilder.

The advanced bodybuilder would need more days to rest because they can create greater intensity, which would mean that you would need more rest.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2006, 06:23:33 PM »
Chest and Back
4-7 days later: Legs and abs
4-7 days later: Shoulders and Arms
4-7 days later: Legs and abs again

Then start the cycle over.

So yes, potentially (taking maximum amount of days in between) you could only be training chest, back, arms, and shoulders once a month. But this would be for the advanced bodybuilder.

The advanced bodybuilder would need more days to rest because they can create greater intensity, which would mean that you would need more rest.

Nice to see someone else with a pair of balls between their legs.

How long have you been using HIT? How's your intensity?
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2006, 06:25:23 PM »
man, how do you stay away from the gym for that long. Also how do you stay lean?
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2006, 06:36:55 PM »
Nice to see someone else with a pair of balls between their legs.

How long have you been using HIT? How's your intensity?

About 1.5 years. In the beginning I wasn't too intense because most people in the gyms, even the long-timers, don't go that intense. So, when you train to failure, you stand out. Plus, you get worried during the last couple of reps, scared of "hurting yourself" even though it's next to impossible.

Now my intensity is insane, no fear, perfect form and tempo.

What about you?

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2006, 06:39:39 PM »
man, how do you stay away from the gym for that long. Also how do you stay lean?

When you train that intense, your muscles are sore for days. Especially after leg day, you don't want to go back to the gym for a while.

Plus, I know that it would be wrong for me to go back because it would be counterproductive. That knowledge keeps me away from the gym. Also, we all have other interests so the gym isn't the world to me.

I stay lean by eating a low or maintenance calorie, well balanced diet. You won't get fat unless you eat excess calories.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2006, 06:46:19 PM »
About 1.5 years. In the beginning I wasn't too intense because most people in the gyms, even the long-timers, don't go that intense. So, when you train to failure, you stand out. Plus, you get worried during the last couple of reps, scared of "hurting yourself" even though it's next to impossible.

Now my intensity is insane, no fear, perfect form and tempo.

What about you?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105394.0

Here's my HIT log from the training board. (just updated)

I started HIT only about a month ago. I was always extremely intense with my workouts but this is on a whole other level. And this type of training suits me well. I love a challenge. From the get-go I knew this routine would give me results, so I decided to share my experiences with other Getbiggers.

Yeah, I know what you mean about standing out. People always have a reaction to my training. Some will say I'm showing off, others will say I'm out of my fucking mind. hahaha I'm sometimes commended for my efforts but most people just don't understand. I don't care. I love it. I love knowing I train harder than anyone else at my gym, and I go to a very professional gym.

I'm not too scared of injuries because I take all the precautions I can. Tearing a muscle off the tendon is my worst nightmare and I do good to avoid it.
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2006, 06:49:37 PM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=105394.0

Here's my HIT log from the training board. (just updated)

I started HIT only about a month ago. I was always extremely intense with my workouts but this is on a whole other level. And this type of training suits me well. I love a challenge. From the get-go I knew this routine would give me results, so I decided to share my experiences with other Getbiggers.

Yeah, I know what you mean about standing out. People always have a reaction to my training. Some will say I'm showing off, others will say I'm out of my fucking mind. hahaha I'm sometimes commended for my efforts but most people just don't understand. I don't care. I love it. I love knowing I train harder than anyone else at my gym, and I go to a very professional gym.

I'm not too scared of injuries because I take all the precautions I can. Tearing a muscle off the tendon is my worst nightmare and I do good to avoid it.

Yeah that's a pretty similar experience to mine.

If you warm up properly, use proper form, and use a slow tempo, you won't get injured. The last rep is the safest rep because your muscle is so warmed up, so no worries.

Good luck and keep it up.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2006, 06:54:18 PM »
Yeah that's a pretty similar experience to mine.

If you warm up properly, use proper form, and use a slow tempo, you won't get injured. The last rep is the safest rep because your muscle is so warmed up, so no worries.

Good luck and keep it up.

Seeing as you're new to posting, welcome to Getbig.  :)

You're right about that. Everytime I've ever injured myself during a set was during the first 4 reps or so.
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2006, 09:28:48 PM »
The guy he trained in the Video Marcus is a natural yes. He competes in natural shows anyway.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2006, 09:50:23 AM »
5. Right remove all momentum. The muscle should be in continuously worked out with no break and no extra momentum. This is for an optimal workout and also to prevent injury.

Care to explain how it is possible to move a weight without momentum? Maybe Mr Mentzer should have picked up a physics book before talking about eliminating momentum when lifting weights.
Or can somebody please explain this to me.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2006, 10:28:15 AM »
Care to explain how it is possible to move a weight without momentum? Maybe Mr Mentzer should have picked up a physics book before talking about eliminating momentum when lifting weights.
Or can somebody please explain this to me.

move the weight slow enough that all extermal stimuli has been removed..he usually uses a 4 second count.

basically you control the rate of inertia
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2006, 10:55:21 AM »
move the weight slow enough that all extermal stimuli has been removed..he usually uses a 4 second count.

basically you control the rate of inertia

Yeah inertia, but momentum still takes place. Like I said, he mixed up the terms big time. And I still don't see the benefit of a slow movement.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2006, 11:18:44 AM »
The guy he trained in the Video Marcus is a natural yes. He competes in natural shows anyway.

If he's natural then WOW. He looks great in that video. I wonder how long he's been using HIT.
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2006, 11:28:09 AM »
If he's natural then WOW. He looks great in that video. I wonder how long he's been using HIT.

He looks decent at best. I have two training partners that would burry him and they are volume trainers. one has 18 1/2 inch arms and the other over 19 at about 10% bodyfat!
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2006, 11:43:34 AM »
He looks decent at best. I have two training partners that would burry him and they are volume trainers. one has 18 1/2 inch arms and the other over 19 at about 10% bodyfat!

everyone has a training buddy that is incredible...lets talk about you. You are one on here talking smack. You came in next to last in an online cyber contest...get your weight up young man
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2006, 11:45:00 AM »
He looks decent at best. I have two training partners that would burry him and they are volume trainers. one has 18 1/2 inch arms and the other over 19 at about 10% bodyfat!

but just think about how big they could be if they trained like mentzer!!!!!!!
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2006, 11:55:39 AM »
but just think about how big they could be if they trained like mentzer!!!!!!!

Yeah they trained mentzer style for a while and didn't like it because their weights went way down and they didn't get much out of it. Those geniuses where doing 6 second negatives and positives, LITERALLY!!
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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2006, 11:59:28 AM »
yeah we all know mentzer claimed science backed him up, i dont think it did.


Actually it does.

Mentzer is correct on his training and everything else.

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Re: Mike Mentzer's video
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2006, 12:03:46 PM »
When you train that intense, your muscles are sore for days. Especially after leg day, you don't want to go back to the gym for a while.

Plus, I know that it would be wrong for me to go back because it would be counterproductive. That knowledge keeps me away from the gym. Also, we all have other interests so the gym isn't the world to me.

I stay lean by eating a low or maintenance calorie, well balanced diet. You won't get fat unless you eat excess calories.

Exactly.

When people realize all of this, they will see how EASY bodybuilding really is.