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via MM.. Flat stomach in the offseason? Still ripped and vascular? Ronnies up to something.. Jay you better watch out ;)
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Well the good news is that in that second pic his lat looks bigger than ever.
The bad news is I can't see anything else in those pics.
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Well the good news is that in that second pic his lat looks bigger than ever.
The bad news is I can't see anything else in those pics.
He`s got hair now.
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Looks like Ronnie didn't come off this year. Despite years of gear use, Ronnie still has great hair. :o
If Ronnie can overcome his injuries, he will destroy Jay. Even with all his improvements, Jay is not at the same level as a 100% Ronnie, or even a 90% Ronnie. He would be a sure but distant second, which is very respectable. Plus, no bodybuilder has ever been at the same level as a 100% Ronnie, so it's no diss on Jay to say that.
Agree- Ronnie 'on' is not from this planet.
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ronnie will do what it takes to win
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Agree- Ronnie 'on' is not from this planet.
Try telling that to ND & Co. ::)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.0
Just thought I'd link that thread for those of you who haven't seen it yet. ;D
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Well, Dorian 95 was freaky too- in his own way.
I'm just settling with 'they're both great bodybuilders, all I care about is that Ronnie makes Jay look like a bridesmaid' ;D
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He is looking great, but I hope he doesn't burn himself out trying to stay in near-contest shape right up until the Olympia.
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Well the good news is that in that second pic his lat looks bigger than ever.
The bad news is I can't see anything else in those pics.
wasn't the left lat the proble?
also we are not use to seeing ronnie with cuts at this time of the year
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Yes that's completly correct. But Ronnie's 2006 Olympia showing had a noticeably slimmer back- it almost looked atrophied. It wasn't anywhere near as wide as it normally is.
But yeah, the test will be when we can see his left tri, lat and quad. Still, his right lat in that second pic just looks massive- it's just hanging there.
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Ronnie does have what it takes to come back from his upset at the Mr O. He has a 2 year deal with BSN and he has to full fill it and compete again, but not only that i think Ronnie knows that he is 10 times better then Jay and is pissed off at the fact that he actually lost to him it still baffles me how that even took place (politics!)
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He is looking great, but I hope he doesn't burn himself out trying to stay in near-contest shape right up until the Olympia.
lol, nothing wrong with going out in a blaze of glory. This only means that he doesn't have to work as hard to get in contest shape and thus can focus more on refining what he already has
Jay didn't come off either
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Ronnie does have what it takes to come back from his upset at the Mr O. He has a 2 year deal with BSN and he has to full fill it and compete again, but not only that i think Ronnie knows that he is 10 times better then Jay and is pissed off at the fact that he actually lost to him it still baffles me how that even took place (politics!)
I thought that this BSN deal ended this year?
are you sure? or is this like your "business interest in dubia India"?
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He is looking great, but I hope he doesn't burn himself out trying to stay in near-contest shape right up until the Olympia.
Jay seems to have no problem staying in shape year round, so now ronnie is cause he knows jay has stepped it up and now ronnie can't slack off for 4 month like he usally does, while jay is bustin his ass in the gym. Now Ronnie has to bust his ass in the gym year round to stay competitive..
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Ronnie is going to completely demolish Jay in 2007.
karma keith, you up for a wager? ;)
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(http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=54575)
damn, he looks about 3 ft deep with a flat midsection! :o
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Looks like the same old Ronnie. :(
The Aryan superman Jay Cutler will reign supreme as long as he wants.
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arms and shoulders don't look as big as they used to.
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He starting to resemble Chris Cormier (physique and face).
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shaving the head every day must be a pain in the ass. now he doesn't have to.
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he looks like shaq
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=112001.0;attach=126221;image)
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he looks like shaq
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=112001.0;attach=126221;image)
he weighs as much as Shaq too. :P
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I think the whole hair thing makes him looks younger
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Put a fork in him, he's done.
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He starting to resemble Chris Cormier (physique and face).
Man, he looks like Mr T.
If he walked in with more gold round his neck than the whole of south africa, you wouldn't be able to tell the two apart.
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He starting to resemble Chris Cormier (physique and face).
That's an insult to Cormier's face and physique.
Despite years of gear use, Ronnie still has great hair. :o
Purely genetic. So does Jay. Hardly a triumph.
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Jay seems to have no problem staying in shape year round, so now ronnie is cause he knows jay has stepped it up and now ronnie can't slack off for 4 month like he usally does, while jay is bustin his ass in the gym. Now Ronnie has to bust his ass in the gym year round to stay competitive..
Ronnie didn't train for 4 months after the O?
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Look at how Meathead320 gives an opinion that the general populace of mayhem doesn't like and how they rudely rip into him. ::)
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44208
Just disgusting.
Funny, because the poster makes a good argument. It's not like he was ripping on Ronnie. Yet, he's attacked by the pack of muscle schmoes.... ::)
Also, I love how that fat tub of shit (the Ronnie guy supreme, Glenn) chimes in like he's Ronnie's right hand man or something. ::) That's like Earl trying to tell us anything about Kev-levrone just cause he stalks the guy...... :-\
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seeying the pictures, i think (like someone already mentioned) that ronnie isnt comming off trainning and drugs this year...probably he will continue 'on' until the olympia....
unless his age is really catching him up, this way i think its impossible for jay to win....
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gordiano - are you suggesting that glennr222222222222222222 2 swallows the sperm of Ronnie? :-X
I remember Glenn said in a post on mayhem "My boy Ronnie is ready for battle" or something along those lines.
lol, "my boy" as if they are best friends or something. Glenn seems ok, but maybe he reads too much MD lol "My boy Ronnie is ready for battle in Iraq. He's ready to fight a war and uncover weapons of mass destruction and kill Saddam Hussein." Sounds just like a Flex Wheeler contest report, no? ;D
There are plenty or good reasons why Ronnie should retire. First off, if he loses again, he risks going the way of Nasser. A true champion should know when to throw in the towel. Secondly, do these muscle schmoes not consider Ronnie's HEALTH? Yeah, that's only a minor consideration, right? ::)
I'm saying that Glennr222222222 is the kind of guy who would break into Ronnie's house, head to ronnie's living room, pull the cushions off the couches, sniff them in an attempt to get the "essence" of Ronnie.
The kind of guy who would then head to Ronnie's shower, and search for pubic hairs, pick them up and put them in a "baggy" and take them home as "souvenirs".
The kind of stalker who would lick Ronnie's toilet seat, while touching himself......then plunge the toilet, to find out if Ronnie is taking his fiber.....
The kind of schmoe who would go through Ronnie's dirty laundry in hopes of finding a pair of soiled trunks.....worn by his hero......
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I wonder what his opinions on Briaaaaaan's man-crush on Ronnie is?
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I'm not exactly the biggest Ronnie fan but I've got to admit - he's looking a lot better. As long as he doesn't burn himself out by staying trim all the way up to the Olympia then he should give Jay a good run for his money and it'll be close. I don't understand the guy's motivation though - he'll be 43 by then and his time's running out.
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Ronnie really needs to work on his posing this year or forget about beating cutler.
He has gotten lazy on pretty much every pose he does now... his posture is terrible and his muscle control substandard.
his free posing routine needs to hide some problems he has now that are gonna be hard to overcome... he needs to figure out some new poses that are more flattering for his body... more twisting, one arm shots would help.
if he doesn't put 100 really hard hours into it the last 12 weeks forget winning next year...
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Funny, because the poster makes a good argument. It's not like he was ripping on Ronnie. Yet, he's attacked by the pack of muscle schmoes.... ::)
Also, I love how that fat tub of shit (the Ronnie guy supreme, Glenn) chimes in like he's Ronnie's right hand man or something. ::) That's like Earl trying to tell us anything about Kev-levrone just cause he stalks the guy...... :-\
that should teach him a lesson for going against the rules, policy and regulations over there
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jay didnt win the mr olympia..ronnie lost it...(to melvin anthony)...alot of guys are better than jay.
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jay didnt win the mr olympia..ronnie lost it...(to melvin anthony)...alot of guys are better than jay.
And all of them are inferior to Ruhl!!!!
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perhaps he is doing the Arnold Classic but you can't fix muscle tears. at the end of the day ronnie will continue to regress...
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jay didnt win the mr olympia..ronnie lost it...(to melvin anthony)...alot of guys are better than jay.
RONNI SUCKS I SHOULD PACK HIS PUSS WITH AIR
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I don't know man....if it were anyone else I would say, yes...he's is done. But Ronnie is a different story. He only lost the olympia due to injuries...not because others where better. he couldn't flex properly, especially his lats which also happen to be his best bodypart.
PB
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RONNI SUCKS I SHOULD PACK HIS PUSS WITH AIR
its already full of air use argon
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Looks like Ronnie didn't come off this year. Despite years of gear use, Ronnie still has great hair. :o
If Ronnie can overcome his injuries, he will destroy Jay. Even with all his improvements, Jay is not at the same level as a 100% Ronnie, or even a 90% Ronnie. He would be a sure but distant second, which is very respectable. Plus, no bodybuilder has ever been at the same level as a 100% Ronnie, so it's no diss on Jay to say that.
Fair enough Matt, I'll remind you of this post after the next Olympia.
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He`s got hair now.
I guess he doesn't use as much gear as we think he does? ::)
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Ronnie does have what it takes to come back from his upset at the Mr O. He has a 2 year deal with BSN and he has to full fill it and compete again, but not only that i think Ronnie knows that he is 10 times better then Jay and is pissed off at the fact that he actually lost to him it still baffles me how that even took place (politics!)
Maybe it's not politics, but just you need to check your eyes.
Yes, Ronnie in shape is untouchable, but at 2006 Mr.Olympia he was NOT in shape, torn bodyparts and all and you wonder why he lost.
Can he beat Cutler? Yes. Will he? I think that mostly depends on 2 key factors. One him being in shape, which probably he can still do, but second will he be able to open both his lats or will he have triceps this time around. Something tells me it has nothing to do with how much he will juice or how hard he will train or diet.
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Ronnie does have what it takes to come back from his upset at the Mr O. He has a 2 year deal with BSN and he has to full fill it and compete again, but not only that i think Ronnie knows that he is 10 times better then Jay and is pissed off at the fact that he actually lost to him it still baffles me how that even took place (politics!)
It wasn't politics, Ronnie was off, period. He was too heavy and injured and Jay was on.
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why can't ronnie come in at a fairly heavy bodyweight, let's say 270lbs range, He would be hard as nails, and I believe he could do some damage. Eventhough, he's not used to that bodyweight in a long time, but he should keep in mind his ass is getting older, and doesn't need to show up at 300lbs all the time.
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Ronnie looks really good in these pictures.
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Max, do you believe Jay beat Ronnie at his best? Do you believe Jay won or Ronnie lost?
It is quite clear that Jay won because Ronnie was off condition wise and from the injuries he sustained.
A win is win but lets not fake the funk.....
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Funny, because the poster makes a good argument. It's not like he was ripping on Ronnie. Yet, he's attacked by the pack of muscle schmoes.... ::)
Also, I love how that fat tub of shit (the Ronnie guy supreme, Glenn) chimes in like he's Ronnie's right hand man or something. ::) That's like Earl trying to tell us anything about Kev-levrone just cause he stalks the guy...... :-\
hahahaha you're obsessed with me I bet you see my name in your dreams every night
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Earl why is Wesley Snipes obsessed with you? Isnt he wanted for tax evasion?
Btw,you can change the avatar. Ron is ignoring my massive compelation of votes. He cant hang. Thanks anyway!
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via MM.. Flat stomach in the offseason? Still ripped and vascular? Ronnies up to something.. Jay you better watch out ;)
Yea...maybe it's called "STAYING IN SHAPE"......he let himself go completely last year and he finally paid for it....maybe he;s learned something.
It's all going to be for naught, however.........
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Earl why is Wesley Snipes obsessed with you? Isnt he wanted for tax evasion?
Btw,you can change the avatar. Ron is ignoring my massive compelation of votes. He cant hang. Thanks anyway!
because i've hurt his sensitive feelings numerous times :'(
i will change the avatar
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coleman looks be around 295-305lbs in these pics..connie coleman is keeping it 'light weight' this year..but i think so if he competes at 270-275 his injuries are gonna be more exposed and he will end up in 3rd or 4th place..romania grand prix anyone...a walking pile of dogs poop..
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Ronnie is going to completely demolish Jay in 2007.
karma keith, you up for a wager? ;)
240, I have this feelin Ronnie will show up 50-60% better in 2007 and will win the Mr. O.....I wouldn't underestimate Cutler though.
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because i've hurt his sensitive feelings numerous times :'(
i will change the avatar
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I thought you where talking about "Big wiggs". The guy above your post!
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Who's got the bigger gut???
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f**k you Cutler Team ;D
I hope Ronnie wins the O for another 3 times and than retires...
J.C is as boring as watching flys f**k.
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f**k you Cutler Team ;D
I hope Ronnie wins the O for another 3 times and than retires...
J.C is as boring as watching flys f**k.
;D I will admit.....I do enjoy Ronnie's videos....he's got charisma.....and I will also admit that if Ronnie comes in to the 07 Olympia looking like he did in 03....it's just maybe lights out....size=10pt]BUT[/size]....after seeing how good Cutler looks now......I don't think it's gonna happen. He looks incredible. We shall see...
Bottom line...Ronnie was and still is a GREAT champion......
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I bet at the O he will come in minus all the theatrics, posing with seriousness and determination. Like I said in a thread a while ago - he will stay on year round (like Jay did) there will be none of that incredible shrinking man shit this time around. The thing is hopefully he won't push it to much and tear something. If he keeps that midsection tight this will be an awsome show.
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can you tell the difference?
;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=112001.0;attach=126221;image)
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/977825373.jpg)
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Fair enough Matt, I'll remind you of this post after the next Olympia.
Ok max if Jay wins i will record myself on video and say " Jay Cutler is a better bber then Ronnie and deserved to win the mr o" ;D and if Ronnie wins you have to record your self on video saying "The King Ron Coleman is a better bodybuilder then jay cutler and desevred to win the Mr O" and post it on youtube and here on getbig and MM, and flexonline! All in good fun :). Let me know if you accept this wager..
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Jay is what? Early 30s? He's already surpassed Ronnie at a younger age and keeps getting bigger. Face it. Ronnie is finished.
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Jay is what? Early 30s? He's already surpassed Ronnie at a younger age and keeps getting bigger. Face it. Ronnie is finished.
Jay has not surpassed what ronnie brought to the table.
until he can top this, he will always be behind:
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He's like 2 inches shorter with wider lats and bigger chest. Plus he's younger. Give it up. hahahaha. ;D
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At the last GP show, Ronnie should have won
he DESTROYED Jay
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At the last GP show, Ronnie should have won
he DESTROYED Jay
So true.
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At the last GP show, Ronnie should have won
he DESTROYED Jay
you got pics? i heard that too.
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Jay has not surpassed what ronnie brought to the table.
until he can top this, he will always be behind:
Coleman had, at one point (cerca 1998) one of the best physiques ever.
Great taper, tight waist, decent abs and calves, everything else incredible.
That should be his legacy, not the blocky version getting on stage these days.
Cutler at no time could compare to the Coleman of 1998. Very few can.
-Hedge
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Coleman had, at one point (cerca 1998) one of the best physiques ever.
Great taper, tight waist, decent abs and calves, everything else incredible.
That should be his legacy, not the blocky version getting on stage these days.
Cutler at no time could compare to the Coleman of 1998. Very few can.
-Hedge
agreed.
see ND?
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you got pics? i heard that too.
No I don't.....
maybe Hulkster have some :)
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No I don't.....
maybe Hulkster have some :)
i dont want them if theyre sticky.
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agreed.
see ND?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Ronnie's calves in that shot.
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i dont want them if theyre sticky.
;D
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He's like 2 inches shorter with wider lats and bigger chest. Plus he's younger. Give it up. hahahaha. ;D
Ronnie has a bigger chest then jay by far and more muscular chest to.. Jay will never be able to match Ronnie's muscularity, actually no one in the world will for the next 5 years that's how far ahead Ronnie is from everyone. Jay flexes his muscles and nothing happens, that's just not right, atleast Yates had some good muscularity. Did Yates say Jay was better then him? Nope! He said Ronnie was better then him and that says allot.. I respect Jay for his hard work and dedication to the sport, but we have to be real here people. Jay would never beat Ronnie at his peak, it just so happened that Ronnie was off for this past Mr. O and slacked off to much in the off-season, most likely due to his injuries. And Jay came up and just barely beat him. U think Ronnie is going to make the same mistake twice and come in off? I don't think so, the fact that we see Ronnie is this type of condition right now says allot, it shows that he is still hungry for it and knows he can beat jay like he has for the past 8 years. Give the 8 Time Mr. O his respect, Jay has nothing on Ronnie, case closed..
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Jay beating Ronnie at the Mr. Olympia is like a van beating a ferrari in a race b/c one of its wheels came off.
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Jay beating Ronnie at the Mr. Olympia is like a van beating a ferrari in a race b/c one of its wheels came off.
oh shit... that is perhaps the wisest thing said on getbig this month.
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oh shit... that is perhaps the wisest thing said on getbig this month.
Yes, completely agree. Someone sig this so this wisdom is not forgotten!
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Ok max if Jay wins i will record myself on video and say " Jay Cutler is a better bber then Ronnie and deserved to win the mr o" ;D and if Ronnie wins you have to record your self on video saying "The King Ron Coleman is a better bodybuilder then jay cutler and desevred to win the Mr O" and post it on youtube and here on getbig and MM, and flexonline! All in good fun :). Let me know if you accept this wager..
ohh shut up matt..stop hanging by ronnies balls..face the truth..ronnie looked worse than a pile of dogs poop dammit..
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Ronnie has a bigger chest then jay by far and more muscular chest to.. Jay will never be able to match Ronnie's muscularity, actually no one in the world will for the next 5 years that's how far ahead Ronnie is from everyone. Jay flexes his muscles and nothing happens, that's just not right, atleast Yates had some good muscularity. Did Yates say Jay was better then him? Nope! He said Ronnie was better then him and that says allot.. I respect Jay for his hard work and dedication to the sport, but we have to be real here people. Jay would never beat Ronnie at his peak, it just so happened that Ronnie was off for this past Mr. O and slacked off to much in the off-season, most likely due to his injuries. And Jay came up and just barely beat him. U think Ronnie is going to make the same mistake twice and come in off? I don't think so, the fact that we see Ronnie is this type of condition right now says allot, it shows that he is still hungry for it and knows he can beat jay like he has for the past 8 years. Give the 8 Time Mr. O his respect, Jay has nothing on Ronnie, case closed..
stop living in the past matt.this 2006 and not 2003.admit it dammit..your pimp lost the title to an inshape cutler.do you think ronnie would beat jay next year..yeah right ::).just look at this whenever a mr olympia has defended his title the second time he has always been in better shape than he did it the first time.for eg dorian yates was leaps and bounds ahead of his 1992 mr olympia form..ronnie coleman was bigger and more shredded when he won the olympia in 1999 than he did in 1998.i think so jay is gonna be 10 times better next year.this is mr olympia history my friend.just don't hang by colemans swollen nuts anymore.if and only if coleman gets every thing right that is to compete at exactly 285lbs not a pound less and not a pound more,i think so then connie would have a chance.remember he has really looked awesome when he competes under 290lbs.he was 287lbs at 2003 olympia and just blew everyone away including cutler that year.he really does not need to come in at 290 plus lbs cuz he gains weight in all the wrong places for eg the waist and although his conditioning still looks good at a higher bodybweight but he is not able to cover up his injuries..so all he needs to do is come in at exactly at 285lbs to win the olympia..but as for now i really don't think so ronnie has got it in him right now..at 43yrs old i doubt
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Jay beating Ronnie at the Mr. Olympia is like a van beating a ferrari in a race b/c one of its wheels came off.
next year all the wheels of the ferrari will come off..and then it will explode at the end and end up in 5th place
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Jay beating Ronnie at the Mr. Olympia is like a van beating a ferrari in a race b/c one of its wheels came off.
Yes so true it's actually sad and not funny ;D For real though I don't see jay making many improvements, what can he do? Ronnie was 245 and ripped with striations everywhere for his first win and got bigger and bigger nailing his condition a few more times. Jay is already around 275-280 with good not great conditioning and I don't see him getting much bigger or his conditioning any better, he may win another next year on size alone but no more after that, he just doesn't have what it takes to be a great olympian only a filler until a true great emerges to take the crown for another long reign.
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i think so jay is gonna be 10 times better next year.
WTF does this mean? He's going to be 2,800lbs at 0.3% bodyfat?
Fucking retard.
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i think dexter jackson or bill willmore will just as enormous as ronnie you see there backs?and they always come in peeled.
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WTF does this mean? He's going to be 2,800lbs at 0.3% bodyfat?
Fucking retard.
this means that you are the retard..i said 10 times better not 10 times bigger dickhead
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this means that you are the retard..i said 10 times better not 10 times bigger dickhead
I asked you what it means.
Quote- WTF does this mean?
Explain, bitch.
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Ronnie has a bigger chest then jay by far and more muscular chest to.. Jay will never be able to match Ronnie's muscularity, actually no one in the world will for the next 5 years that's how far ahead Ronnie is from everyone. Jay flexes his muscles and nothing happens, that's just not right, atleast Yates had some good muscularity. Did Yates say Jay was better then him? Nope! He said Ronnie was better then him and that says allot.. I respect Jay for his hard work and dedication to the sport, but we have to be real here people. Jay would never beat Ronnie at his peak, it just so happened that Ronnie was off for this past Mr. O and slacked off to much in the off-season, most likely due to his injuries. And Jay came up and just barely beat him. U think Ronnie is going to make the same mistake twice and come in off? I don't think so, the fact that we see Ronnie is this type of condition right now says allot, it shows that he is still hungry for it and knows he can beat jay like he has for the past 8 years. Give the 8 Time Mr. O his respect, Jay has nothing on Ronnie, case closed..
Mat,
What the fuck is wrong with you? Jay is Mr.Olympia and he beat like 20 guys including Coleman. Yes, Coleman was not in shape, but thats not excuse. Jay was denied the title in 2001 when he clearly desrved it.
You right about giving respect to 8 time Mr.Olympia Ronnie Coleman but there were only 11 Mr.Olympia winners. Dont you think all of them should get respect, including Jay. Why dont you just shut up and wait till 2007 Mr.O
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if you guys wanna make things fun, go ahead and start a Coleman Vs Jay thread just like the fcuking "Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce"
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if you guys wanna make things fun, go ahead and start a Coleman Vs Jay thread just like the fcuking "Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce"
There is no debate,Ronnie at any point in his entire career after 1995 as a pro would beat Jay at his best point ever.
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Mat,
What the f**k is wrong with you? Jay is Mr.Olympia and he beat like 20 guys including Coleman. Yes, Coleman was not in shape, but thats not excuse. Jay was denied the title in 2001 when he clearly desrved it.
You right about giving respect to 8 time Mr.Olympia Ronnie Coleman but there were only 11 Mr.Olympia winners. Dont you think all of them should get respect, including Jay. Why dont you just shut up and wait till 2007 Mr.O
Antonio!! What the fuck is wrong with you????? If Jay deserved the win in 01...He would've won!! He deserved it this time(not in my opinion but others) so ..he won..???
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Why do you think Jay deserved to win in 2001?
Also, even if he did deserve to win in 2001, why does that mean he deserves to win now?
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Looks like Ronnie didn't come off this year. Despite years of gear use, Ronnie still has great hair. :o
If Ronnie can overcome his injuries, he will destroy Jay. Even with all his improvements, Jay is not at the same level as a 100% Ronnie, or even a 90% Ronnie. He would be a sure but distant second, which is very respectable. Plus, no bodybuilder has ever been at the same level as a 100% Ronnie, so it's no diss on Jay to say that.
its funny how ronnie coleman fans go on about a "100% ronnie" being unbeatable,
but ronnie hasn't really been 100% since 1998/1999.
sporting a 40" waist with zero abdominal definition is not quite "100%"
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he looks like shaq
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=112001.0;attach=126221;image)
you mean he looks like shit.
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its funny how ronnie coleman fans go on about a "100% ronnie" being unbeatable,
but ronnie hasn't really been 100% since 1998/1999.
sporting a 40" waist with zero abdominal definition is not quite "100%"
This is so true.
Ronnie looked unreal in 98, 99, 2003 and 2001 Arnold Calssic, but 2001, 2002 & 2005 his wins were very questionable.
Right now Jay is Mr.Olympia and unless Ronnie comes ripped with both lats functioning and something that resembles triceps he will lose.
Of course it would be great to see Ronnie of 2003 again, but that will never happen. Why? Age, torn bodyparts and age again.
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I would say his 2003 form would beat any bodybuilder ever, including his 1998/1999 forms.
Well it's not 2003 anymore. Its 2006 and he lost. And in 2007 with all the problems he has it's very unlikely to see him in 2003 form.
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agreed.
see ND?
No I can't see Ronnie's calves where are they? ;)
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its funny how ronnie coleman fans go on about a "100% ronnie" being unbeatable,
but ronnie hasn't really been 100% since 1998/1999.
sporting a 40" waist with zero abdominal definition is not quite "100%"
Depends what you mean by 100%. IF you mean coming in conditioned and not 'off', then 2003 was 100% (or close). If you mean coming in at career best, then it just comes down to which version you think looks better- 2003, or 1999.
And 2005 wasn't really close.
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There is no debate,Ronnie at any point in his entire career after 1995 as a pro would beat Jay at his best point ever.
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I see you have been working on your debating skills ;D
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I see you have been working on your debating skills ;D
whatever buttplug
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I see you have been working on your debating skills ;D
He's quite the intellectual, isn't he? ;D
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whatever buttplug
I didn't say masturbating skills ;D
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Ok max if Jay wins i will record myself on video and say " Jay Cutler is a better bber then Ronnie and deserved to win the mr o" ;D and if Ronnie wins you have to record your self on video saying "The King Ron Coleman is a better bodybuilder then jay cutler and desevred to win the Mr O" and post it on youtube and here on getbig and MM, and flexonline! All in good fun :). Let me know if you accept this wager..
I am glad you said this Matt.
Dave is starting to come off as a love sick high school girl going from board to board involving himself in any thread which has anything to do with Jay whatsoever. People question Ron's health and the pics of Jay I had seen posted here as he guest posed looked criminal. Jay looks to be holding so much water, I would wonder how his BP and kidneys are doing.
One can never know how these things Will come out, but I do hope Ronnie wins another.
The Beef.
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Why do you think Jay deserved to win in 2001?
Because he was better.
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Because he was better.
Plain and simple!
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Why would you have given Ronnie the nod, Matt C?
Personally, I think Jay was better from what I've seen.
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These pics say it all:
http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=1526
http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=1542
Oops! I thought you meant the 2006 O.
Having seen the pics, I agree with you.
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I would say his 2003 form would beat any bodybuilder ever, including his 1998/1999 forms.
Most like you, are overwhelmed by colemans veins and striated (huge) ass, but forget that
a beer belly with no definition is not what makes a mr. olympia.
2003 ronnie had the one of the biggest pregnant look of his career. Pathetic.
if the ifbb actually followed their criteria only 98/99 coleman would have won the olympia.
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Looks like Ronnie didn't come off this year. Despite years of gear use, Ronnie still has great hair. :o
Coming off at the pro level proly means....lowering the dosage ...but who knows...
and come the fuck on mate....black people have great genes for arms....chest....back... ..but NOT hair or calves... >:( do you friggin want EVERYTHING?? >:(
he has great genes for not losing his hair....but great....ohhh no >:(
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Yeah, I've always thought that despite the wataer he was holding, 2001 was probably one of Ronnie's freakiest showings. Massive, and with a smaller waist than 2003.
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Matt...or shawanna..if ya DEl my ost about black people not having great hair..
go fuck yourself....
..big penes... big arms..big chests..sooo i made fun of yer hair...
sensitive... :-\
spells insecure about being black 2 me...
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you mean he looks like shit.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RONNIE... NOT YOUR MOM
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Matt...or shawanna..if ya DEl my ost about black people not having great hair..
go f**k yourself....
..big penes... big arms..big chests..sooo i made fun of yer hair...
sensitive... :-\
spells insecure about being black 2 me...
Whatever ::)
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Fuckin' a man.
Toxic gave a nod to the black penis.
Surely you won't delete his post.
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NOBOBY CAN BEAT THIS
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NOBOBY CAN BEAT THIS
the problem is that ronnie just cannot look like that anymore, something has screwed up his conditioning so even when he's "on" he can't get to that level anymore, maybe it's the GH, maybe it's something "teh chad" does to get him into shape but all the detail and definition is gone.