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Title: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 08, 2007, 04:34:33 PM
hahahahaha, for all you clowns claiming that Pride is dying, they just resigned Fedor to a contract extension. So much for all that yabbering Dana was doing about going after Fedor. Looks like Fedor actually wants to fight some good fighters and not waste his time in some shitty organization fighting noname HW's.

http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/index.php?mainpage=news&news_id=980
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: torquemada on January 08, 2007, 04:48:08 PM
Smartest move they could possibly make...
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 08, 2007, 04:50:05 PM
Doesn't look like Pride's going anywhere.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on January 08, 2007, 05:48:20 PM
Old news, and I'm still not convinced.  Pride's next American show doesen't look as great as they said it would, Like Sakikabara said, Pride's survival lies in the American market, they could sign whoever they want and still fail in the states.  This year will make or break Pride, hopefully they make it.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 08, 2007, 05:50:54 PM
Old news, and I'm still not convinced.  Pride's next American show doesen't look as great as they said it would, Like Sakikabara said, Pride's survival lies in the American market, they could sign whoever they want and still fail in the states.  This year will make or break Pride, hopefully they make it.

Old news? It was done today you fucking moron. You really don't know shit, thanks for proving it.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on January 08, 2007, 06:20:47 PM
They just resigned Fedor, Shogun, Wandy and Arona. What the f**k are you talking about?

Does that look familiar? you wrote it...... like a week ago.  Why are you acting all suprised and wasting thread space when you already knew this?  Go back to doing something your good at, like blowing guys.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 08, 2007, 06:26:13 PM
Does that look familiar? you wrote it...... like a week ago.  Why are you acting all suprised and wasting thread space when you already knew this?  Go back to doing something your good at, like blowing guys.

Actually, that turned out to be false and it was translated incorrectly. They were only in negotiations at that point, and not just with Pride. Guess I should've corrected that.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on January 08, 2007, 06:32:29 PM
Actually, that turned out to be false and it was translated incorrectly. They were only in negotiations at that point, and not just with Pride. Guess I should've corrected that.

Either that, or you just made it up.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 08, 2007, 06:33:19 PM
Either that, or you just made it up.

You're welcome to go read his website and the translations if you want. Why would I make something up? To prove how much of a cock sucking douche bag you are? You already do a well enough job of that on your own.  ;)
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on January 08, 2007, 06:51:17 PM
Why would I make something up?

You're living a lie son, and your an attention whore. Maybe one day you can find something important to say that isn't made up, or "false information".
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: sandycoosworth on January 08, 2007, 07:39:04 PM
cat fight









*grabs popcorn*
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 08, 2007, 07:42:31 PM
You're living a lie son, and your an attention whore. Maybe one day you can find something important to say that isn't made up, or "false information".


hahaha, are you seriously deleting my posts now? Talk about one gigantic pussy. hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Guess I must've hit really close to home when I said that if you fight as well as you talk shit, then you better have a good doctor.
 ::)
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on January 08, 2007, 07:51:57 PM
hahaha, are you seriously deleting my posts now? Talk about one gigantic pussy. hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Guess I must've hit really close to home when I said that if you fight as well as you talk shit, then you better have a good doctor.
 ::)

Wow, your delusional.  You've gone from making up MMA news to making up stories. 

Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 08, 2007, 08:04:46 PM
Why did Fedor resign?

He was the champ ???

 ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: xpac2 on January 08, 2007, 08:11:41 PM
hahaha, are you seriously deleting my posts now? Talk about one gigantic pussy. hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Guess I must've hit really close to home when I said that if you fight as well as you talk shit, then you better have a good doctor.
 ::)

Once again you've owned yourself. Keep going moron
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: BEAST 8692 on January 08, 2007, 08:13:25 PM
dana doesn't want fedor.

dana recycles the same shit over and over with the usual suspects.

if he signed fedor he would only have one dominant hw. liddell, etc would become obsolete and he knows that.

he's got cro cop anyway who is more widely recognized.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kwon on January 08, 2007, 09:27:16 PM
Why would Liddell be obsolete by signing Fedor?

Liddell may be obsolete after Rampage, but what does Fedor have to do with Liddell?
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 09, 2007, 12:15:24 AM
Like Sakikabara said, Pride's survival lies in the American market, they could sign whoever they want and still fail in the states.  This year will make or break Pride, hopefully they make it.

Is this really the case?

I understand that getting a foothold in the American market would make Pride much bigger, but there are 100,000,000 people in Japan, and martial arts is much more a part of the culture than it is here. One would think that a mixed-martial arts fighting organization could not only survive there, but thrive.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 09, 2007, 12:42:08 AM
dana doesn't want fedor.

dana recycles the same shit over and over with the usual suspects.

if he signed fedor he would only have one dominant hw. liddell, etc would become obsolete and he knows that.

he's got cro cop anyway who is more widely recognized.

Dana said in an interview this week he intended to right after Fedor. Keep up with the times.

Is this really the case?

I understand that getting a foothold in the American market would make Pride much bigger, but there are 100,000,000 people in Japan, and martial arts is much more a part of the culture than it is here. One would think that a mixed-martial arts fighting organization could not only survive there, but thrive.

It's not necessarily that Pride will fail, it's whether or not they'll be able to hold on top all the talent they have. If they can crack the American market somewhat they should be fine.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: americanbulldog on January 09, 2007, 01:39:44 AM
^^^BF, right on.  With the 40+ million that the UFC got from 66, if they can replicate those buyrates, they will have the cash to go after the bigger fish.  Why wouldn't Zuffa want someone like Fedor.  The American market would eat up exciting fighters no matter where they originate.  I hope DSE, Bodog, Showtime are able to keep pace with the UFC.  Competition improves the breed, and with the continual rise of popularity, so will purses, and then better and better athletes get attracted to MMA. 
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on January 09, 2007, 04:11:55 AM
Is this really the case?

I understand that getting a foothold in the American market would make Pride much bigger, but there are 100,000,000 people in Japan, and martial arts is much more a part of the culture than it is here. One would think that a mixed-martial arts fighting organization could not only survive there, but thrive.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3214&zoneid=2
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Scimowser on January 09, 2007, 09:04:21 AM
in all fairness this was brought up a week ago. Now in regards to Prides survival answer me this:

If Pride is so secure then why did Sakakibara wait until he lost the money pot contract to break the US market? I dont doubt that Pride still has alot of money, but they cant possibly have the cash available that they had beforehand. Breaking the US can only be great for the company, and it will forge a strong competition between them and the UFC. I would love to see a mega bucks Inter-Promotional open Weight Tournament.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah what a dream  ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 09, 2007, 09:48:54 AM
in all fairness this was brought up a week ago. Now in regards to Prides survival answer me this:

If Pride is so secure then why did Sakakibara wait until he lost the money pot contract to break the US market? I dont doubt that Pride still has alot of money, but they cant possibly have the cash available that they had beforehand. Breaking the US can only be great for the company, and it will forge a strong competition between them and the UFC. I would love to see a mega bucks Inter-Promotional open Weight Tournament.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah what a dream  ;D

Yeah, it was brought up a week ago and turned out to be a poor translation and he was still in negotiations. I love having to explain multiple things to some of you douche bags. I suppose Pride waited because MMA had barely any following in America up until the last 2 years or so, so why would Sakakibara waste his time and money trying to tap a non-existent market? Now that it's growing, they've realized the potential.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Scimowser on January 09, 2007, 10:09:02 AM
look, all im saying is that while Pride had the big bucks they never needed to expand out of Japan. Its mathematical common sense for them to branch out right now, pulling a new market of fans means they can still pay the best wages to the best fighters and still put on a B-card show that absolutely rapes the best the UFC has to offer
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 09, 2007, 06:23:13 PM
Why would Liddell be obsolete by signing Fedor?

Liddell may be obsolete after Rampage, but what does Fedor have to do with Liddell?

hahaha yes!
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: BEAST 8692 on January 10, 2007, 04:36:14 AM
if fedor and cro cop were both in the ufc, where does that leave the likes of liddell, ortiz, etc (i won't even mention the hws)?

those guys are big, getting bigger, celebrities in america and dana has spent alot of time and money cultivating that ie chuck has no personality so we'll call him the ice man. seen how many hollywood stars turn up to the shows? the huge fan fare, etc? he has taken a leaf out of the pro boxing promoter's handbook and realized that the real money lies in CELEBRITIES. he has to SELL the personalities.

it's not about the best fighter it's about who brings the most money and when you've invested so much in building the rep of guys like that you need to protect them big time.

larry holmes was the hw champ in boxing. don king was his manager and holmes made alot less money than the guys before him. why? because the man had no selling point. the paying public just didn't give a shit about him.

tyson, on the other hand, had a selling point. he was ferocious and the public lapped it up, so tyson was protected big time. anyone that might pose a problem for tyson was avoided eg. lennox was paid 4 million just to step aside from his rightful shot at tyson.

mirko is bad enough and dana needed someone to add something to his pathetic hw division, but fedor would absolutely rape liddell and the rest and BOOM, gone is the mystique and the fan base follows.

fedor and mirko would be the top guys, but they are not american and can't even speak english.

fedor is so methodical and lacking in personality that, even though he is clearly the man at pride, the question is he going to make up for the big names he destroys? 

Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2007, 11:48:36 AM
Mirko speaks pretty good English actually but he seems to be very soft spoken and quiet.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 10, 2007, 12:32:37 PM
hahahahahaha. That's true about Chuck. I've heard him in interviews and he has zero personality. Hence, "Iceman" hahaha. Fedor has no personality either.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on January 10, 2007, 12:46:18 PM
it's not that they don't have personalities, they have class and actually show respect for their opponent

it's unfortunate that the general public would rather see a less talented guy with a big mouth like tito ::)

E
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2007, 12:48:27 PM
it's not that they don't have personalities, they have class and actually show respect for their opponent

it's unfortunate that the general public would rather see a less talented guy with a big mouth like tito ::)

E

No offense to Rampage, but look at him. His interviews are one of the biggest reasons why people still talk about him all the time.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on January 10, 2007, 12:49:43 PM
No offense to Rampage, but look at him. His interviews are one of the biggest reasons why people still talk about him all the time.

he's just "keeping it real" ;)

E
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2007, 12:51:14 PM
he's just "keeping it real" ;)

E

hahaha, I suppose. His interviews are definetely some of the funniest shit I've ever read.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on January 10, 2007, 12:53:18 PM
kevin randleman gives interesting interviews too

he'll be talking normal and then BAM he just starts screaming for no apparent reason

E
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 10, 2007, 02:02:18 PM
hahaha, I suppose. His interviews are definetely some of the funniest shit I've ever read.

I like when he talks about people trying to take his "Cheddar"
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 10, 2007, 06:03:41 PM
I care for some loudmouth like Tito "lord of the cans" Ortiz. You don't have to be a jackass to have personality. Chuck, Mirko, are just dull and boring when they talk. Anyway, I'm more interested in their ring capabilities.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: BEAST 8692 on January 11, 2007, 04:31:32 AM
you guys and those on other mma forums like sherdog, etc are obviously hard core fans, but dana needs to attract joe public thus he needs to sell his celebrities and then re-sell them again and again add nauseum.

he realizes it's all getting a bit tired (how many times do we have to look at shamrock melting down in the audience, chuck wide eyed like a fucking junky and ortiz being the obnoxious prat that he is?  ::)

it's the same old act every time and it gets a bit tired. enter mirko and boom, they'll call him the assassin or something and sell him as some sort of killing machine. as don king would say, "only in america!"

unfortunately the perfect fighting machine is not any of this shit (as some of you know). this animal is instead someone who controls his emotions, saves his energy, stays real loose and reserves his adrenaline and killer instinct (for want of a less redundant term) for the ring. he must be exactly like a stone cold killer and go about his business with no real feeling at all. fear, hate, anger, even sadness and love are useful to stir up adrenaline and motivation, but these emotions MUST be in complete control if you want to fight well.

when shamrock has meltdown after meltdown (all veins popping out and tight as fuck) he's burning up all his adrenaline, stamina and psychological edge. when it comes time to fight the man's done all his fighting OUTSIDE the ring. even pretending to melt down is a waste of energy because if you're convincing enough the body doesn't actually know the difference and will leave you just as fucked (trust me, been there).

guys like fedor, mirko and even lidell know this so they try to remain as calm as possible. fedor and mirko have been lucky up until now, but now mirko, at least, is going to have to jump through a few hoops to up the ticket sales.

even someone as ferocious as tyson during his early career remained very calm when he went about his business. if you ever watch his early fights or even the title fight with berbick you will hear rooney telling him to remain calm as he sits in the corner.

if any of you guys ever compete this will be your greatest advice (ok i've gone completely off topic).

novices 99% of the time run in there all hyped up, nervous and scared and you can see these emotions written all over them. it's like an open book. then you see the trainer hyping them up even more - STUPID!

if the guy at the other end is calm and focused i'll put my money on him every time.
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on January 11, 2007, 10:15:09 PM
you guys and those on other mma forums like sherdog, etc are obviously hard core fans, but dana needs to attract joe public thus he needs to sell his celebrities and then re-sell them again and again add nauseum.

he realizes it's all getting a bit tired (how many times do we have to look at shamrock melting down in the audience, chuck wide eyed like a fucking junky and ortiz being the obnoxious prat that he is?  ::)

it's the same old act every time and it gets a bit tired. enter mirko and boom, they'll call him the assassin or something and sell him as some sort of killing machine. as don king would say, "only in america!"

unfortunately the perfect fighting machine is not any of this shit (as some of you know). this animal is instead someone who controls his emotions, saves his energy, stays real loose and reserves his adrenaline and killer instinct (for want of a less redundant term) for the ring. he must be exactly like a stone cold killer and go about his business with no real feeling at all. fear, hate, anger, even sadness and love are useful to stir up adrenaline and motivation, but these emotions MUST be in complete control if you want to fight well.

when shamrock has meltdown after meltdown (all veins popping out and tight as f**k) he's burning up all his adrenaline, stamina and psychological edge. when it comes time to fight the man's done all his fighting OUTSIDE the ring. even pretending to melt down is a waste of energy because if you're convincing enough the body doesn't actually know the difference and will leave you just as fucked (trust me, been there).

guys like fedor, mirko and even lidell know this so they try to remain as calm as possible. fedor and mirko have been lucky up until now, but now mirko, at least, is going to have to jump through a few hoops to up the ticket sales.

even someone as ferocious as tyson during his early career remained very calm when he went about his business. if you ever watch his early fights or even the title fight with berbick you will hear rooney telling him to remain calm as he sits in the corner.

if any of you guys ever compete this will be your greatest advice (ok i've gone completely off topic).

novices 99% of the time run in there all hyped up, nervous and scared and you can see these emotions written all over them. it's like an open book. then you see the trainer hyping them up even more - STUPID!

if the guy at the other end is calm and focused i'll put my money on him every time.

meltdown.

 ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Fury on January 11, 2007, 10:32:14 PM
you guys and those on other mma forums like sherdog, etc are obviously hard core fans, but dana needs to attract joe public thus he needs to sell his celebrities and then re-sell them again and again add nauseum.

he realizes it's all getting a bit tired (how many times do we have to look at shamrock melting down in the audience, chuck wide eyed like a fucking junky and ortiz being the obnoxious prat that he is?  ::)

it's the same old act every time and it gets a bit tired. enter mirko and boom, they'll call him the assassin or something and sell him as some sort of killing machine. as don king would say, "only in america!"

unfortunately the perfect fighting machine is not any of this shit (as some of you know). this animal is instead someone who controls his emotions, saves his energy, stays real loose and reserves his adrenaline and killer instinct (for want of a less redundant term) for the ring. he must be exactly like a stone cold killer and go about his business with no real feeling at all. fear, hate, anger, even sadness and love are useful to stir up adrenaline and motivation, but these emotions MUST be in complete control if you want to fight well.

when shamrock has meltdown after meltdown (all veins popping out and tight as f**k) he's burning up all his adrenaline, stamina and psychological edge. when it comes time to fight the man's done all his fighting OUTSIDE the ring. even pretending to melt down is a waste of energy because if you're convincing enough the body doesn't actually know the difference and will leave you just as fucked (trust me, been there).

guys like fedor, mirko and even lidell know this so they try to remain as calm as possible. fedor and mirko have been lucky up until now, but now mirko, at least, is going to have to jump through a few hoops to up the ticket sales.

even someone as ferocious as tyson during his early career remained very calm when he went about his business. if you ever watch his early fights or even the title fight with berbick you will hear rooney telling him to remain calm as he sits in the corner.

if any of you guys ever compete this will be your greatest advice (ok i've gone completely off topic).

novices 99% of the time run in there all hyped up, nervous and scared and you can see these emotions written all over them. it's like an open book. then you see the trainer hyping them up even more - STUPID!

if the guy at the other end is calm and focused i'll put my money on him every time.

I plan to go with cold stare down ala Fedor and Mirko in my first fight, just to be a complete badass.  :o
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: BEAST 8692 on January 12, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: rccs on January 12, 2007, 07:12:26 AM
Old news, and I'm still not convinced.  Pride's next American show doesen't look as great as they said it would, Like Sakikabara said, Pride's survival lies in the American market, they could sign whoever they want and still fail in the states.  This year will make or break Pride, hopefully they make it.
Because in the states is all about circus and WWE!!!
Title: Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: xpac2 on January 12, 2007, 12:32:22 PM
I plan to go with cold stare down ala Fedor and Mirko in my first fight, just to be a complete badass.  :o

I'm sure your sister will be terrified  ::)