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A big one was on CSPAN yesterday. These people turn most Americans off though. I think they actually hurt the Anti War movement more than they help it. Normal Americans turn it on and see them praising that Hawaiian Soldier for disobeying orders to go to Iraq, chants about Racism, A women on stage has a t-shirt with Arabic writing all over it, and a big flag in the crowd from god knows what Country. I had to turn it off when Jesse Jackson walked up to the podium.
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i saw some people on the metro giong to it, this one lady had her lil kid in a stroller and had the sign "Toddlers for Peace"
i didnt know what to make of that
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These people never change. They have protested every military action for decades. But they are part of what makes this country great. They would all be locked up if they lived in China.
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These people never change. They have protested every military action for decades. But they are part of what makes this country great. They would all be locked up if they lived in China.
And people here call you a neo-con lol
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And people here call you a neo-con lol
Only the blind ones. :)
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These people never change. They have protested every military action for decades. But they are part of what makes this country great. They would all be locked up if they lived in China.
Yes man, I agree with you 100%
I hope when I speak against the War in Iraq no one pictures me to be like one of them. :-X
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I just think Jackson needs to get a damn job. Seriously, no wonder urban blacks don't work. They listen to a man who doesn't work and take his advice.
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Yes man, I agree with you 100%
I hope when I speak against the War in Iraq no one pictures me to be like one of them. :-X
One of my partners protested the Vietnam War and got tear gassed. Her father was a Colonel in the Army at the time. :o
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I just think Jackson needs to get a damn job. Seriously, no wonder urban blacks don't work. They listen to a man who doesn't work and take his advice.
Urban blacks don't work?
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Urban blacks don't work?
Not the one's on welfare screaming that they need more money. ;D I admit it was a statement written in haste and without clarification.
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Not the one's on welfare screaming that they need more money. ;D I admit it was a statement written in haste and without clarification.
the people who don't have jobs don't work? NO WAY!
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the people who don't have jobs don't work? NO WAY!
clever...very clever. Also, there are some who are on welfare but work for cash and don't pay the taxes on it.
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clever...very clever. Also, there are some who are on welfare but work for cash and don't pay the taxes on it.
And just to be fair............. they are of many different colors. Mostly black and white however.
The whole system needs to be overhauled.
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And just to be fair............. they are of many different colors. Mostly black and white however.
The whole system needs to be overhauled.
Oh for sure. I'm sure Britney Spears would be on welfare if it weren't for being a Mouseketeer all those years.
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I want to see Jackson's tax return..where does his cash come from. Anyway go ahead and protest..The usual idiots came out. Even Jane Fonda. My old man was a B-52 pilot and did 2 tours in Nam. She came to Boston way back in the 80's to promote some line of clothing for Jordan Marsh. They had a ton of guys out front protesting so she went around back. My old man got a tip from the security gurad and he and a few other guys got a shot at her as she came out. He asked her way she sat on the AA gun that more then likely shot at him and his buddy asked her why she turned in the note from the POW when she toured the Hanoi Hilton..I guess she started screaming at her entourage. The local news got it all on tape. My dad's 15 minutes of fame. I hate JANE.
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The usual idiots came out.
Are they idiots because they disagree with the war in iraq?
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Hollywood stars who don't know a damm thing about foreign policy are idiots. The average fruit salad has more intelligence then Sarandon and Penn.
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Hollywood stars who don't know a damm thing about foreign policy are idiots. The average fruit salad has more intelligence then Sarandon and Penn.
How would you label smart people who dislike the war?
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Not radish's like these people. I have no real postion on anti war protestor's. Do what u want, free country and all of that. But if one were to get in my face....spit or key my car.. I'd eat his children.
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As long as nobody's badmouthing Susan Sarandon continue...
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Um i'm kinda tired ur being funny right. I wish these people would just act. I'm a soldier it does not qualify me to pilot the space shuttle or conduct brain surgery. I stay in my lane....they suck. Yeah yeah i know free speech but by virtue of celebrity does not mean u bring anything to the table and furthermore seems to undermine the protest. Same with any time Jesse Jackson comes out. Further these people never stay on message.the lump it all in.
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And people here call you a neo-con lol
If I'm not mistaken he supports the bulk of the neoconservative agenda, just like Intenseone does... What are we suppose to call him? Obviously these guys are conservatives who have bought into the neoconservative agendas but as I see it, that puts them all under the same tent. Now I could find plenty of conservative examples of people who don't have any love for China's civil rights record but don't come anywhere near qualifying as neoconservative. I know you simplify the term to mean conservative with extreme views and beach bum is right, some people have misused the term to apply to all conservatives, but that just means the some who are doing it don't understand it and are miss applying the term. That's common with a lot of political designations. It doesn't mean because some people misuse the term that the people who don't misuse it are wrong. That would be silly. It is not an excuse for Beachbum to ignore the proper use of the term because there exists a body who misuses the term. Illogical...
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Um i'm kinda tired ur being funny right. I wish these people would just act. I'm a soldier it does not qualify me to pilot the space shuttle or conduct brain surgery. I stay in my lane....they suck. Yeah yeah i know free speech but by virtue of celebrity does not mean u bring anything to the table and furthermore seems to undermine the protest. Same with any time Jesse Jackson comes out. Further these people never stay on message.the lump it all in.
Yea but come on... That's an extreme right wing mantra to get people to shut up... Just because someone's an actor it doesn't mean they relinquish their rights to free speech... Are they any more than other voices... no not really but I sure in the hell have no problem with guys like Tom Sellek or Charlton heston speaking on guns/2nd Amendment issues... or guys like Chuck Norris going on Fox in support of Bush... Look, there are all levels of citizenry in America. We the poor battle it out with protests/message board rants and letters to the editor... It comes from the left and right at this level. Then you move up to people with money, these people battle it out by publishing books, going on talk shows and holding events. Then there are the famous/rich people... These people speak at fundraiser, protests and other events as well as write books and appear in interviews and again it comes from the left and right... So basically we have people from all facets of life in AMERICA participating in this democracy... really bro, get on board with freedom or get your gulag started ;D
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beachbum's typical response: "I don't understand what a neocon even is, so I'm certainly not one".
ya know, you have to admire the ballsy neocon bastards like Rummy or Cheney, at least they admit they stand for US aggression and imperialism. People like beach bum - the neocons who won't admit they are neocons - are pretty sad.
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Yea but come on... That's an extreme right wing mantra to get people to shut up... Just because someone's an actor it doesn't mean they relinquish their rights to free speech... Are they any more than other voices... no not really but I sure in the hell have no problem with guys like Tom Sellek or Charlton heston speaking on guns/2nd Amendment issues... or guys like Chuck Norris going on Fox in support of Bush... Look, there are all levels of citizenry in America. We the poor battle it out with protests/message board rants and letters to the editor... It comes from the left and right at this level. Then you move up to people with money, these people battle it out by publishing books, going on talk shows and holding events. Then there are the famous/rich people... These people speak at fundraiser, protests and other events as well as write books and appear in interviews and again it comes from the left and right... So basically we have people from all facets of life in AMERICA participating in this democracy... really bro, get on board with freedom or get your gulag started ;D
{LOL} HH6 manages to stay alive through how many years in Afghanistan with IED's going off all around him,
and with just 12 days to go... Berserker kills him with one paragraph on a message board. Hilarious! ;D
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{LOL} HH6 manages to stay alive through how many years in Afghanistan with IED's going off all around him,
and with just 12 days to go... Berserker kills him with one paragraph on a message board. Hilarious! ;D
That's actually not very funny. :-\
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He hardly destroyed me but he makes a good point. I just don't believe people who lead charmed lives on our nickel have any right to bad mouth a policy that does not affect them. Your an actor..shut up and act. Its my opinion and I believe they undermine the anti-war movement bacause their celebrity over-shadows the ideals they are trying to represent. That said..screw them. Beserk after that there is no hope..get on the truck buddy. I had planned on giving u a pass..make u a trustee or something. Now its going to be a whole hut full of large sweaty lumberjacks for u. ;D
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actors are just like anyone else.
except for, when joe nobody has an opinion, nobody gives a shit.
when famous anyone has an opinion, they cover it.
if more diehard repub celebrities would come fwd, they'd play it too.
Unfortunately, I didn't see any neocon celebrities (or anyone known) coming out to defend the war. Why is this?
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Well I'll just stay in my lane. Those active duty soldiers who protested would get absolutely crushed if they were mine. If ur a vet and u want to march fine. However the media needs to be very careful of some of these guys. There are alot of fakes. I have met plenty. The guy with the green flight...sounds weird. Was he aircrew? Little things he mntioned sound "off" Anyway if u don't agree with the war..get out. Stop accepting ur paycheck and roll.
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Anyway if u don't agree with the war..get out. Stop accepting ur paycheck and roll.
good point!
anyone who is in there today, signed or re-signed after 9/11. sure, they might have learned WMD or 911 were bullshit, and maybe they question blah blah, but they signed a contract and they knew the deal.
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He hardly destroyed me but he makes a good point. I just don't believe people who lead charmed lives on our nickel have any right to bad mouth a policy that does not affect them.
I can't believe you said that! Actors lead a charmed life on your nickle?
Are you talking about the actors in Hollywood, or the ones in the Oval office?
I suppose in a world where perception is reality, ...however, I can assure you an actor's life is NOT a charmed one.
Your an actor..shut up and act.
It is the job of the actor to channel the voices, thoughts, and opinions of men and women throughout the ages.
The fact that many are willing to continue in this role without payment, and beyond the camera rolling is something for which you should be grateful. ...especially if it's a union actor. :P
Its my opinion and I believe they undermine the anti-war movement bacause their celebrity over-shadows the ideals they are trying to represent.
Only if you're not listening. The good news is that people are listening. I secretly think that's what goads you. ;)
"One of the first moves of a dictatorship is to stifle the artists and thinkers who have the ability to stir up dissent from any prescribed dogma which might enslave them." - Uta Hagen
...only 11 days to go :-*
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Well I'll just stay in my lane. Those active duty soldiers who protested would get absolutely crushed if they were mine. If ur a vet and u want to march fine. However the media needs to be very careful of some of these guys. There are alot of fakes. I have met plenty. The guy with the green flight...sounds weird. Was he aircrew? Little things he mntioned sound "off" Anyway if u don't agree with the war..get out. Stop accepting ur paycheck and roll.
You say this like you've never heard of "Stop Loss". infact, I think there's an officer in Hawaii whose time was up but they wouldn't let him go. Instead they insisted he go off to Iraq. He's refused to go. Maybe you heard of him?
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{LOL} HH6 manages to stay alive through how many years in Afghanistan with IED's going off all around him,
and with just 12 days to go... Berserker kills him with one paragraph on a message board. Hilarious! ;D
You fcuking idit.
That's way out of line.
You're comparing our friendly debates with the fears, terrors and dangers that HH6 has to endure?
You badly need to wake up and smell the fcuking coffee mate.
-Hedge
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He hardly destroyed me but he makes a good point. I just don't believe people who lead charmed lives on our nickel have any right to bad mouth a policy that does not affect them. Your an actor..shut up and act. Its my opinion and I believe they undermine the anti-war movement bacause their celebrity over-shadows the ideals they are trying to represent. That said..screw them. Beserk after that there is no hope..get on the truck buddy. I had planned on giving u a pass..make u a trustee or something. Now its going to be a whole hut full of large sweaty lumberjacks for u. ;D
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You say this like you've never heard of "Stop Loss". infact, I think there's an officer in Hawaii whose time was up but they wouldn't let him go. Instead they insisted he go off to Iraq. He's refused to go. Maybe you heard of him?
Uh, Watada is not in Hawaii, he's in Washington. And he was not affected by stop loss, he was in the MIDDLE of his tour (after joining DURING the war) and refused to deploy, while his subordinates went in harm's way. You don't have to make up facts to prove a point.
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Would you be MORE mad at him, if he had grabbed a mic, and talked about the need for more war, in a time of peace?
If the US wasn't involved anywhere, and he happened to be interviewed, and he said "yes, I secretly wish we would invade Greenland for their beachside property".
Are you impartially mad because he broke an army regulation? Or are you mad that his statement fueled a belief that isn't your own?
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Would you be MORE mad at him, if he had grabbed a mic, and talked about the need for more war, in a time of peace?
If the US wasn't involved anywhere, and he happened to be interviewed, and he said "yes, I secretly wish we would invade Greenland for their beachside property".
Are you impartially mad because he broke an army regulation? Or are you mad that his statement fueled a belief that isn't your own?
1. No.
2. ???
3. I am "impartially mad" (whatever that means) because he took an oath, violated that oath because he is friggin coward, and sent his subordinates to combat while he sits on his cowardly butt in the comfy confines of picturesque Fort Lewis. >:( I am pissed off that a spineless officer who voluntarily joined the Army WHILE WE WERE AT WAR will accomplish his goal of avoiding combat, while his soldiers are in harm's way. It is poor leadership, a violation of his oath, dishonorable, and sends a horrible message to the troops. Okay, done venting. :)
I tend to think those who have actually taken an oath, and satisfied it, can appreciate much more how wrong this is. I'm not sure I've talked to an active duty, retired, and/or former military member who supports that turkey.
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a disabled iraqi vet got spit on at the rally, and was threatened by numerous people.
whomever did that are scum
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a disabled iraqi vet got spit on at the rally, and was threatened by numerous people.
whomever did that are scum
...and lucky I didn't witness it.
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I tried to find that story and couldn't. If anybody has a link. I hope its just propaganda. The Libs don't want to go down that road again. Actors have it so tough..what hot piece of ass do i bang tonight ..god my coke dealer got busted..gotta hit up Lindsey for her's. Oh Paris hates me...yeah rough life. They live in a fantasy land..great job if u can get it. I saw some Marine with no face on PBS (AFN carries US news). Does anybody think this guy will ever have a woman again..go out..lead anything like a normal life...no friggen face at 22. Hollywood can kiss my ass. Protest all u want. If we had a draft things would be different. Half these people protest because they want it to be like the 60's.
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I tried to find that story and couldn't. If anybody has a link. I hope its just propaganda. The Libs don't want to go down that road again. Actors have it so tough..what hot piece of ass do i bang tonight ..god my coke dealer got busted..gotta hit up Lindsey for her's. Oh Paris hates me...yeah rough life. They live in a fantasy land..great job if u can get it. I saw some Marine with no face on PBS (AFN carries US news). Does anybody think this guy will ever have a woman again..go out..lead anything like a normal life...no friggen face at 22. Hollywood can kiss my ass. Protest all u want. If we had a draft things would be different. Half these people protest because they want it to be like the 60's.
I agree. They just want a cause. Most of them couldn't find the middle east on a map.
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I agree. They just want a cause. Most of them couldn't find the middle east on a map.
Hahaha, ain't that the truth.. ;D
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I tried to find that story and couldn't. If anybody has a link. I hope its just propaganda. The Libs don't want to go down that road again. Actors have it so tough..what hot piece of ass do i bang tonight ..god my coke dealer got busted..gotta hit up Lindsey for her's. Oh Paris hates me...yeah rough life. They live in a fantasy land..great job if u can get it. I saw some Marine with no face on PBS (AFN carries US news). Does anybody think this guy will ever have a woman again..go out..lead anything like a normal life...no friggen face at 22. Hollywood can kiss my ass. Protest all u want. If we had a draft things would be different. Half these people protest because they want it to be like the 60's.
Tell me about it. Seems like the most vocal actors have the least to complain about.
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Tell me about it. Seems like the most vocal actors have the least to complain about.
This standard should apply to politicians too. Most politicians are milionaires who know their kids will never serve. Why should they give a shit about the war? Because they want to do their part to preserve their country and keep our citizens alive and healthy.
No matter where you stand on the issue, to disregard a celebrity's opinion because they're a celebrity is silly. They're an american and their vote counts 1/300,000,000 just like the rest of us. Your real beef should be with the media, who gives a dropout with dimples more coverage than educated people with real plans.
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This standard should apply to politicians too. Most politicians are milionaires who know their kids will never serve. Why should they give a shit about the war? Because they want to do their part to preserve their country and keep our citizens alive and healthy.
No matter where you stand on the issue, to disregard a celebrity's opinion because they're a celebrity is silly. They're an american and their vote counts 1/300,000,000 just like the rest of us. Your real beef should be with the media, who gives a dropout with dimples more coverage than educated people with real plans.
I agree in part. Many politicians, on both sides, do not have a stake in the war because they are wealthy and their kids do not serve.
But the fact that some terd celebrity is mouthing off bothers me and a lot of other people. I could care less what Sean Penn and his other liberal co-actors have to say about politics. They live in a fantasy land.
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But the fact that some terd celebrity is mouthing off bothers me and a lot of other people. I could care less what Sean Penn and his other liberal co-actors have to say about politics. They live in a fantasy land.
Most Americans live in a fantasy land, dude. While Penn fills his days with coke and hippy causes, there are 200 million idots who fill their days with American Idol and Dr Phil.
At the very least, Penn has visited Iraq and can find it on a world map.
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Most Americans live in a fantasy land, dude. While Penn fills his days with coke and hippy causes, there are 200 million idots who fill their days with American Idol and Dr Phil.
At the very least, Penn has visited Iraq and can find it on a world map.
I would never refer to the majority of Americans as idiots. :-\
But Penn is an idiot. :)
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I would never refer to the majority of Americans as idiots. :-\
But Penn is an idiot. :)
In terms of understanding politics, history, and economics, most americans are stupid.
You know what's interesting about your statement... I'm not calling you an idiot. But they say the one thing which truly seperates idiots from other people is that most people are able to recognize and admit when they don't know much about a particular topic. Idiots don't recognize their flaws or areas of inexpertise.
I see the majority of Americans don't understand the global conflict in which we're currently engaged in. Maybe they just makes them dumb. The "idiots" are the people who think they know what's going on: "We are fighting terrorists and spreading democracy". Everyone with a tenth a brain knows its about controlling resources and important regions.
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I tried to find that story and couldn't. If anybody has a link. I hope its just propaganda. The Libs don't want to go down that road again. Actors have it so tough..what hot piece of ass do i bang tonight ..god my coke dealer got busted..gotta hit up Lindsey for her's. Oh Paris hates me...yeah rough life. They live in a fantasy land..great job if u can get it. I saw some Marine with no face on PBS (AFN carries US news). Does anybody think this guy will ever have a woman again..go out..lead anything like a normal life...no friggen face at 22. Hollywood can kiss my ass. Protest all u want. If we had a draft things would be different. Half these people protest because they want it to be like the 60's.
I was flipping through the radio and caught him being interviewed on sean hannity show. I felt really bad for the guy. Pretty soft spoken guy, kinda shy on the radio. He said people were threatening to get him after the concert for all the evil things they thought he had done. Of course, I dont care much for sean hannity but I have to agree with him "You won't here about this story on any mainstream media outlets."
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In terms of understanding politics, history, and economics, most americans are stupid.
Pretty strong statement.
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Pretty strong statement.
Sadly, it's true.
Go to the mall, the Docs office, the supermarket, and ask 100 people about the escalation of tensions with iran. Ask them about the global ramifications of the US grabbing strategic oil reserves and avenues. Ask them about the use of afghan poppies to float Wall Street. Ask them why it has taken longer to stalemate in iraq and afghan, than it took to win WWII. Ask them about US troop levels. Ask them about the supposed domino effect we were supposed to see in S. Asia after bailing out of Vietnam and why we never saw it.
How many of those 100 will have a clue what you're saying? IMO you are overestimating the intelligence and level of study of Americans in general.
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IMO you are overestimating the intelligence and level of study of Americans in general.
By saying I wouldn't call the majority of Americans idiots? ??? You sound pretty pompous 240. It sounds like you think too highly of yourself and not highly enough of your fellow Americans. If I step outside right now, which would put me smack in the middle of the financial district, the overwhelming majority of the first "100 people" I encounter would be highly intelligent.
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By saying I wouldn't call the majority of Americans idiots? ??? You sound pretty pompous 240. It sounds like you think too highly of yourself and not highly enough of your fellow Americans. If I step outside right now, which would put me smack in the middle of the financial district, the overwhelming majority of the first "100 people" I encounter would be highly intelligent.
But of course! Don't you see, they all just don't understand?!!
Seriously though, this is a typical mindset of a Leftist - deplore the unwashed masses and hail thyself.
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By saying I wouldn't call the majority of Americans idiots? ??? You sound pretty pompous 240. It sounds like you think too highly of yourself and not highly enough of your fellow Americans. If I step outside right now, which would put me smack in the middle of the financial district, the overwhelming majority of the first "100 people" I encounter would be highly intelligent.
So now you work in the middle of the financial district as a college professor, after formerly being a high school dropout? Dude, you're so confusing.
Anyway, yes. Most people are sheep who parrot the things they hear in passing. Myself? I have a grad degree in business mgmt and i have a strong understanding of global economics, I have an undergrad in history. And I *still* learn ten new things every day. I cannot imagine the average high school dropout would possess much understanding of global concepts, and even worse, he wouldn't even know he lacked knowledge in that area. He'd feel like he knew it all.
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But of course! Don't you see, they all just don't understand?!!
Seriously though, this is a typical mindset of a Leftist - deplore the unwashed masses and hail thyself.
So true. Talk about unmitigated arrogance.
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So now you work in the middle of the financial district as a college professor, after formerly being a high school dropout? Dude, you're so confusing.
Anyway, yes. Most people are sheep who parrot the things they hear in passing. Myself? I have a grad degree in business mgmt and i have a strong understanding of global economics, I have an undergrad in history. And I *still* learn ten new things every day. I cannot imagine the average high school dropout would possess much understanding of global concepts, and even worse, he wouldn't even know he lacked knowledge in that area. He'd feel like he knew it all.
Your self-congratulatory style knows no bounds. How about you meet ten new people each day, instead?
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Your self-congratulatory style knows no bounds. How about you meet ten new people each day, instead?
I get like this with beach bum because he has said many times that he's smarter than me, his kids are smarter than me, etc, etc... which is odd.. because educated people don't typically resort to those insults, as "smarter than' falls apart as we hit college and levels of expertise in specialized areas is hard to compare.
Americans are a great people. But they're not that bright when it comes to politics, history, and economics, and the long term implications of imperialism and globalization. I'm sorry if BB got offended by "idiot". I shall amend it to "simpleton" in the future.
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I get like this with beach bum because he has said many times that he's smarter than me, his kids are smarter than me, etc, etc... which is odd.. because educated people don't typically resort to those insults, as "smarter than' falls apart as we hit college and levels of expertise in specialized areas is hard to compare.
Americans are a great people. But they're not that bright when it comes to politics, history, and economics, and the long term implications of imperialism and globalization. I'm sorry if BB got offended by "idiot". I shall amend it to "simpleton" in the future.
So let me get this right, you respond to his 'I'm smarter than you' claim with, 'I'm smarter than most other people in this country'?
Why do I have an image of Yogi Bear in my head?
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Bruce,
I feel BB is over-estimating the intelligence and level of understanding the US population possesses.
He feels I'm underestimating them.
I am only stating that I watch hours of news and documentaries, read a dozen newspapers online each day, and understand economics, and I am the first to admit I learn ten new things every day. I certainly don't understand a great deal of things. I am very sure that the average 9 to 5 guy who comes home, watched friends, has a beer, watches the game then crashes, follows a tad less.
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Bruce,
I feel BB is over-estimating the intelligence and level of understanding the US population possesses.
He feels I'm underestimating them.
I am only stating that I watch hours of news and documentaries, read a dozen newspapers online each day, and understand economics, and I am the first to admit I learn ten new things every day. I certainly don't understand a great deal of things. I am very sure that the average 9 to 5 guy who comes home, watched friends, has a beer, watches the game then crashes, follows a tad less.
You raise a lot of issues that I could run with on this, but I won't. I still don't think you should underestimate the average American, and their ability to make excellent decisions for their nation. History has given us this.
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Headhunter,
Why do you think there is no draft?
With the president wanting to send more troops to Iraq, enrollments down, possible showdown with Iran.
I would think the President would stand up and ask the country to sacrafice for our freedoms.
That is what former Presidents did when our nation was in crisis.
Sandra
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So let me get this right, you respond to his 'I'm smarter than you' claim with, 'I'm smarter than most other people in this country'?
Why do I have an image of Yogi Bear in my head?
Be careful when relying on allegations/comments/summaries made by 240. He often makes stuff up.
Actually, I have never claimed to be smarter than 240. I have claimed my teenaged daughters are smarter than he is. (They are. :)).
I just interviewed a guy who wants to work for my company. As I was sitting there, I wondered whether he is one of those "idiot Americans." 240 would probably think so. :-\
His "I'm smarter than most other people in the country comments" (paraphrasing) are about the most arrogant comments I have read on this board.
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You raise a lot of issues that I could run with on this, but I won't. I still don't think you should underestimate the average American, and their ability to make excellent decisions for their nation. History has given us this.
Absolutely correct.
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Headhunter,
Why do you think there is no draft?
With the president wanting to send more troops to Iraq, enrollments down, possible showdown with Iran.
I would think the President would stand up and ask the country to sacrafice for our freedoms.
That is what former Presidents did when our nation was in crisis.
Sandra
Regardless of where u come down on the war..a draft would tear us apart. Even if 60% were for the war or better yet no real opinion....I have said it before..America is not at war, The US military is at war.
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America is not at war, The US military is at war.
that's totally true man.
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Regardless of where u come down on the war..a draft would tear us apart. Even if 60% were for the war or better yet no real opinion....I have said it before..America is not at war, The US military is at war.
Now, you see. This where I have a problem. If our comander in chief can send the military into a war, why can't he ask the american people to give more of themselves for the cause? For what is right? For them hating our Freedoms?
The US military does not live in a vaccuum. You have family and friends that are left behind. We miss you being with us and are worried about your well being. Wondering if you will return to us, and if /when you do you are forever changed by your experience physically, psychologically, emotionally.
I feel that if we, as a nation send our strongest, youngest and bravest into harms way, The leaders of this country should ask those home in safety to rally around the war effort to show our support.
Instead we buy SUVs, electronics, etc and go on our daily lives as if there is no war going on.
Watching the local news tonight, there was not one mention of the going ons of the middle east and the war, much less about the rest of the world.
The lead story was about a pair of puppies with a rare disease and how they are surviving after surgery.
That is just not right.
Sandra
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Now, you see. This where I have a problem. If our comander in chief can send the military into a war, why can't he ask the american people to give more of themselves for the cause? For what is right? For them hating our Freedoms?
The US military does not live in a vaccuum. You have family and friends that are left behind. We miss you being with us and are worried about your well being. Wondering if you will return to us, and if /when you do you are forever changed by your experience physically, psychologically, emotionally.
I feel that if we, as a nation send our strongest, youngest and bravest into harms way, The leaders of this country should ask those home in safety to rally around the war effort to show our support.
Instead we buy SUVs, electronics, etc and go on our daily lives as if there is no war going on.
Watching the local news tonight, there was not one mention of the going ons of the middle east and the war, much less about the rest of the world.
The lead story was about a pair of puppies with a rare disease and how they are surviving after surgery.
That is just not right.
Sandra
What exactly are you suggesting we do, Sandra? Isn't the purpose of having a military to ensure the remainder of the country can continue to go about their daily lives, supporting the economy, as you have noted?