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they actually did start the ball rolling to amend the constitution for this but I never heard of it taking off
think this will EVER happen?
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maybe. 8)
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Doubt it. Cannot do it in time for 08. If a Republican wins in 08, he will run as an incumbent in 2012 (unless it's McCain?). Plus it's a long haul to the amend the Constitution. They need 2/3 of the Congress and 2/3 of the states to ratify. Very difficult.
So, he'd need a Democrat win in 08 and ratification by the Congress and states by about 2010. I guess it could happen, but I doubt it.
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I don't think Medford was talking about 08. It's quite obviously to late. Maybe if they did it right now but that's not happening... I do think that when there is an attempt to amend the Constitution on this it will have a chance at passing and if it does and Arnold is seen as doing well in California then he will have a chance... If we're around that long...
Oh here, let me get that for ya... " ::)"
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Guys..............
Arnold isn't a very bright boy. Fact is, he's stupid.
We don;t want Arnold to be pres even if he was born here.
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Guys..............
Arnold isn't a very bright boy. Fact is, he's stupid.
We don;t want Arnold to be pres even if he was born here.
Erm, that's what you call a fact?
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Erm, that's what you call a fact?
I know a limo driver in Sacramento who has had him as a client on several occasions. He's told me some stories. Also remember when he was on Monday night football this year when the Raiders were getting slammed? He says to the announcer: "It's a miracle the way the Raiders are playing now" insinuating the Raiders were playing well.
He's a great body builder and a good action film actor, both of which need little smarts. As for being governor, that's what your staff is for, you just make the speeches. It would be the same in the white house except on a grander scale.......... do you really wnat that?
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I know a limo driver in Sacramento who has had him as a client on several occasions. He's told me some stories. Also remember when he was on Monday night football this year when the Raiders were getting slammed? He says to the announcer: "It's a miracle the way the Raiders are playing now" insinuating the Raiders were playing well.
Case closed. ::)
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Case closed. ::)
Hey what ever, don't mean to burst your bubble.
Are you making decisions on Arnold based on want his PR has been feeding you all these years? How smart is that? ::)
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Guys..............
Arnold isn't a very bright boy. Fact is, he's stupid.
We don;t want Arnold to be pres even if he was born here.
I disagree Ozmo. He may have a problem keeping his pants up and his hands to himself, but that didn't stop Clinton from being prez. We are talking about a man who amassed a multi-million empire and has been successfully running the largest state in the country. That counts for a whole lot in my book. I'm willing to consider someone who can successfully run a big business (among other qualities).
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If people like Arnold for president based on his politics, then good for them because I feel much better about no longer being in California because I basically don't believe in his political philosophy any more.
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Hey what ever, don't mean to burst your bubble.
Are you making decisions on Arnold based on want his PR has been feeding you all these years? How smart is that? ::)
With such irrefutable evidence (as provided above), how could I argue?! But seriously, it isn't a fact to label Arnold as 'stupid', even if both you and I agree he is (which I don't). Try and not confuse your opinions based on third hand evidence and poorly quoted remarks with facts. This should help your ability to debate effectively.
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Arnold would be an alright president. For one, he's not really tied down to any party's ideals, which would mean he'd pretty much be a free thinker on most issues and would actually be willing to go in the direction that's best for the American people.
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Arnold would be an alright president. For one, he's not really tied down to any party's ideals, which would mean he'd pretty much be a free thinker on most issues and would actually be willing to go in the direction that's best for the American people.
I tend to agree.
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I disagree Ozmo. He may have a problem keeping his pants up and his hands to himself, but that didn't stop Clinton from being prez. We are talking about a man who amassed a multi-million empire and has been successfully running the largest state in the country. That counts for a whole lot in my book. I'm willing to consider someone who can successfully run a big business (among other qualities).
All i'm saying is what i heard. did you watch him on MNF?
Clinton is a smart man BTW.
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With such irrefutable evidence (as provided above), how could I argue?! But seriously, it isn't a fact to label Arnold as 'stupid', even if both you and I agree he is (which I don't). Try and not confuse your opinions based on third hand evidence and poorly quoted remarks with facts. This should help your ability to debate effectively.
What's irrefutable evidence anyway?
I never said it was irrefutable............. you seem to be real concerned about it however.
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fact
NOUN:
Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
Hope this helps.
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All i'm saying is what i heard. did you watch him on MNF?
Clinton is a smart man BTW.
I missed him on MNF. But if he knows nothing about football then that is one giant demerit for him. :)
Yes Clinton is very smart. I also think it is difficult, if not impossible, to amass and maintain a half billion in net worth (I think that's about what he is worth?) if you're not very smart.
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Yes Clinton is very smart. I also think it is difficult, if not impossible, to amass and maintain a half billion in net worth (I think that's about what he is worth?) if you're not very smart.
Arnold may not be a book smart, but he is clever and there's no denying that. Like you pointed out, how elese would Arnold achieve what he has without some form of intelligence? He also seems like a firm decision maker.
I think I'm not alone when I say that it would refreshing to see someone who's not the usual elitist preppie in the white house..
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Arnold may not be a book smart, but he is clever and there's no denying that. Like you pointed out, how elese would Arnold achieve what he has without some form of intelligence? He also seems like a firm decision maker.
I think I'm not alone when I say that it would refreshing to see someone who's not the usual elitist preppie in the white house..
Camel Jockey speaks the truth. :)
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Camel Jockey speaks the truth. :)
Yes, he's getting better, isn't he? Good for him.
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He'd probably be a good prez, something like Bill Clinton but more interesting and not as politically correct, because he's a social moderate, because he's smart and mainly because he doesn't follow the usual politician's boring, predictable behavior. Is more in touch with the electorate IMO, able to provide reasonable, moderate progressive decision-making socially combined with Republican approaches on the economy. Most people would appreciate that, as has been seen recently.
Unlikely to have the opportunity to be Prez, but could play a substantial role in the cabinet.
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He'd probably be a good prez, something like Bill Clinton but more interesting and not as politically correct, because he's a social moderate, because he's smart and mainly because he doesn't follow the usual politician's boring, predictable behavior. Is more in touch with the electorate IMO, able to provide reasonable, moderate progressive decision-making socially combined with Republican approaches on the economy. Most people would appreciate that, as has been seen recently.
Unlikely to have the opportunity to be Prez, but could play a substantial role in the cabinet.
Arnold's 'smart'?? Don't let OzmO know this, he's convinced the opposite is fact.
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Jeb already has the wheelsin motion to run against the dem winner, or Mccain, in 2012.
Watch and see. Dueling dynasties for 32 to 36 years. Incredible. By the time Hilary, then Jeb finish, Chelsea will be ready...
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Arnold's 'smart'?? Don't let OzmO know this, he's convinced the opposite is fact.
Actually Schwarzenegger looks like a genius compared to most of the stiffs seen in American politics. Most of the better candidates like Schwarzenegger never make the jump from private industry to politics unfortunately.
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You don't get to were he is from just beeing simply dumb... and if you counterattack by pointing out that G.W.Bush has a mental capacity of a 12 year old, I would like to counter with the argument that Arnold was not like Bush born with a silver spoon in his month.
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You don't get to were he is from just beeing simply dumb... and if you counterattack by pointing out that G.W.Bush has a mental capacity of a 12 year old, I would like to counter with the argument that Arnold was not like Bush born with a silver spoon in his month.
I don't think of Schwarzenegger as smart because of his career success actually. He's smart because he is. The career developments didn't require brilliance IMO.
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theoretically.... I'll take Arnold for President!!! A. I guarantee he's not Bush stupid so it can't get worse than it is now. B. This guy isn't going to be told what to do by a bunch of neoconservatives working for Israel, which is an active FBI investigation right now... C. He actually doesn't just pretend to work with all sides to get things done, from everything I've heard, he's actually sincere and has a track record of doing exactly that. D. He knows more than anything how to go into a room with another party and have them submit to his will. This is exacty what we need, I guy that walks into a room with semi-hostile leaders and comes out having heard, yes... yes... Ok... sure... youbet... Ok... will do... sounds good... His charisma is unstopable. That is probably his greatest strength and after Bush, a guys so easy to hate, has ushered America to a new all time low in world popularity an Arnold is exactly what we need. He is the ONLY Republican I would vote for dumb or not. I'd take dumb over psycho Hillary or bumbling Kerry or geriatric McCain or any other old guard cold war fuctard dinosaurs...
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Ozmo, sorry but your story loses all credibility when you start it off "i knew a limo driver who..."
and Arnolds knowledge of the NFL has nothing to do with running a state, managing a billion dollar career, being married to a Kennedy when youre a republican or anything else important out side of being an NFL analyst.
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Ozmo, sorry but your story loses all credibility when you start it off "i knew a limo driver who..."
Yea Ozmo... Don't you know you can't use that line unless you're talking about Tom Cruise... :P
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He gets a star in my book because he gave my daughter his autograph several years ago. He co-promotes the Hawaiian Islands Bodybuilding Championships with Mits and Dot Kawashima (the couple who first brought him to the U.S.). He came over for the show and gave my kid the only autograph in the building (over 1,000 people there). Very cool of him. He has never forgotten Mits and Dot either. He uses his influence to bring in world class entertainment for the show and the top bodybuilders in the world to guest pose. Ronnie has been there several times. Cutler was there last year.
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Ozmo, sorry but your story loses all credibility when you start it off "i knew a limo driver who..."
and Arnolds knowledge of the NFL has nothing to do with running a state, managing a billion dollar career, being married to a Kennedy when youre a republican or anything else important out side of being an NFL analyst.
a few points here:
I've had this particular limo driver about a dozen times over the last 5 years. I take what most people tell me regarding things like this with a grain of salt. And that was the case until i saw Arnold on MNF.
But here's the thing: Do you have to have knowledge of football to know a team is getting beat badly? THe score was like 20 to 3 at half time and Arnold says: it's a miracle the way the raiders are playing right now. Only an idiot would make a statement like that.
Additionally..........Ro nald Reagan was the brightest light on earth either, whether it due to brain giving out or it was due to him just being stupid (i doubt it) he had a first rate administration behind him which made him a good president at the time.
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theoretically.... I'll take Arnold for President!!! A. I guarantee he's not Bush stupid so it can't get worse than it is now. B. This guy isn't going to be told what to do by a bunch of neoconservatives working for Israel, which is an active FBI investigation right now... C. He actually doesn't just pretend to work with all sides to get things done, from everything I've heard, he's actually sincere and has a track record of doing exactly that. D. He knows more than anything how to go into a room with another party and have them submit to his will. This is exacty what we need, I guy that walks into a room with semi-hostile leaders and comes out having heard, yes... yes... Ok... sure... youbet... Ok... will do... sounds good... His charisma is unstopable. That is probably his greatest strength and after Bush, a guys so easy to hate, has ushered America to a new all time low in world popularity an Arnold is exactly what we need. He is the ONLY Republican I would vote for dumb or not. I'd take dumb over psycho Hillary or bumbling Kerry or geriatric McCain or any other old guard cold war fuctard dinosaurs...
I'd take anyone other then the war mongering neo-cons........... but Arnold would be low on my list. School programs are still getting cut in cali.
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Ozmo, sorry but your story loses all credibility when you start it off "i knew a limo driver who..."
and Arnolds knowledge of the NFL has nothing to do with running a state, managing a billion dollar career, being married to a Kennedy when youre a republican or anything else important out side of being an NFL analyst.
Let's not get carried away. Being a movie star doesn't require brilliance, nor did winning the Olympia. Marrying a Kennedy actually looks contrived. Overall you can't say he's brilliant for all of that; rather it's calculated.
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Let's not get carried away. Being a movie star doesn't require brilliance, nor did winning the Olympia. Marrying a Kennedy actually looks contrived. Overall you can't say he's brilliant for all of that; rather it's calculated.
Arnold has always maintained a good standing in the PR department..... is that due to his brilliance or the people that work for him?
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Arnold has always maintained a good standing in the PR department..... is that due to his brilliance or the people that work for him?
Both? Hiring the right people and following their advice takes smarts.
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Both? Hiring the right people and following their advice takes smarts.
Yes it does, but it doesn't require a great deal of smarts. Being a good president does.
For example:
It takes above average smarts to realize that when invading a country you should consult all the experts at your disposal, such as maybe a former Chairman of the Joint Cheifs for example. Or that you have a well thouhgt out post stratagy with back upi plans in case you stupidly mis-judged things.
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Yes it does, but it doesn't require a great deal of smarts. Being a good president does.
For example:
It takes above average smarts to realize that when invading a country you should consult all the experts at your disposal, such as maybe a former Chairman of the Joint Cheifs for example. Or that you have a well thouhgt out post stratagy with back upi plans in case you stupidly mis-judged things.
I guess the real issue is this: is Arnold smart enough to be prez? I say yes based on his wealth creation, maintenance of his business, and running the largest state in the country. He may not be a Rhodes Scholar, but he appears to be smart enough to lead the country.
But I don't like the football thing. Few things irk me more than a man who knows nothing about football. :)
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I wonder what Arnold's stances are on marijuana? ;D
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Arnold has always maintained a good standing in the PR department..... is that due to his brilliance or the people that work for him?
He learned directly from the master marketer/blaster, one Joe Weider. What more would he need? ;D
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a few points here:
I've had this particular limo driver about a dozen times over the last 5 years. I take what most people tell me regarding things like this with a grain of salt. And that was the case until i saw Arnold on MNF.
But here's the thing: Do you have to have knowledge of football to know a team is getting beat badly? THe score was like 20 to 3 at half time and Arnold says: it's a miracle the way the raiders are playing right now. Only an idiot would make a statement like that.
Additionally..........Ro nald Reagan was the brightest light on earth either, whether it due to brain giving out or it was due to him just being stupid (i doubt it) he had a first rate administration behind him which made him a good president at the time.
So let me get this straight you would take a limo drivers perspective who you have used on average of a little more than twice a year in a five year span and Arnold's football knowledge and conclude that he is not a smart person.
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So let me get this straight you would take a limo drivers perspective who you have used on average of a little more than twice a year in a five year span and Arnold's football knowledge and conclude that he is not a smart person.
No, not completely, but based on those 2 bits of info, the MNF comment being the stroonger one and the limo driver being supporting evidence, i would tend to think he's not all that smart.
P.S., it's not his knowledge of football here, it's his inability to recognize the obvious that scares me.
Would i bet money on this striaght up? no. Would i bet money if given odds? perhaps.
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No, not completely, but based on those 2 bits of info, the MNF comment being the stroonger one and the limo driver being supporting evidence, i would tend to think he's not all that smart.
P.S., it's not his knowledge of football here, it's his inability to recognize the obvious that scares me.
Would i bet money on this striaght up? no. Would i bet money if given odds? perhaps.
And yet you had no problem claiming it was fact earlier.
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And yet you had no problem claiming it was fact earlier.
ARE YOU PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH? ;D
I never claimed it to be irrefuttalbe evidence. I was only tellingyou what i thought and heard.
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No, not completely, but based on those 2 bits of info, the MNF comment being the stroonger one and the limo driver being supporting evidence, i would tend to think he's not all that smart.
P.S., it's not his knowledge of football here, it's his inability to recognize the obvious that scares me.
Would i bet money on this striaght up? no. Would i bet money if given odds? perhaps.
Can you tell some of the stories the limo driver told you about Arnold?
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Can you tell some of the stories the limo driver told you about Arnold?
He got in an arguement with Maria about tractor tires on a flat bed. He thought they belonged to 4 x 4's you buy at a car lot unmodified when they were clearly "skinny" tractor tires. The limo driver said everyone else in the limo just patronized him by not saying anything.
He also said Maria is very smart.
Again guys, i know this is all hear say and not all that credible.... i'm just saying what i heard and the MNF thing is what made me think the way i do about it.
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ARE YOU PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH? ;D
I never claimed it to be irrefuttalbe evidence. I was only tellingyou what i thought and heard.
Consider your balls busted ;)
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Consider your balls busted ;)
;D
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He got in an arguement with Maria about tractor tires on a flat bed. He thought they belonged to 4 x 4's you buy at a car lot unmodified when they were clearly "skinny" tractor tires. The limo driver said everyone else in the limo just patronized him by not saying anything.
He also said Maria is very smart.
Again guys, i know this is all hear say and not all that credible.... i'm just saying what i heard and the MNF thing is what made me think the way i do about it.
This does not prove a lack of intelligence.
Frank Zane said Ahnuld to be very good at math.
His ex Barbara said he had an extremely good memory
His inability to grasp contemporary tractor tire concepts is not the best indicator of ze brains.
Please: Tell us more stories. This is good shit ;D