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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ubaz on January 30, 2007, 10:37:21 AM
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Per Marika's request, I'm posting this on the board for all to read.................... .....
Hey Marika, I think your a beautiful women and a fantastic BB. Question - I
noticed that you, Dorian, and John Hodgson. all seem to have that same dry hardness to
your bodies. What are you guys/gals doing so different with Kerry K. that allows
you all to come into a show with that kind of condition?
Thanks for any help in advance
Yours in Sport
Ubaz
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Sorry if I sounded curt when you PM'd me but I have had a lot of people ask me the same type of question.
Firstly, I dont work with either Kerry of John, I have never met them. Dorian handles my training. He and Kris Gethin map my nutrition.
The difference with my my preperation for last years Texas show was that I followed a high fat diet that only included a high of 20mins cardio in the am and the same in the pm.
My training was prepped by Dorian 5 months out from the show and the results were amazing. Much of my conditioning on the day I devote to being very clean and healthy. Im not going to treat you like your stupid by telling you Im natural but I bet I was probably the most natural person on stage. Somebody quoted (male IFBB pro) that I must have taken a bucket load of duretics - I took asparagus and nothing else! My nutritionist and Dorian believe that if you take too many substances it puts such an impact on your liver and kidneys that the body cant lose excess fluid - they were right!
My whole nutrition program is in the current issue of Kaged Muscle
Thankyou for you compliments Ubaz.
Hugs,
MJ
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Not curt at all..thank you for the information..gotta pick up a copy of Kaged Muscle :)
Good luck in your next show!
Ubaz
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**pukes**
Isn't everyone sooo nice!!
ta ta
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A thread about a beautiful women without her pics is about as useless as a copy of Hustler magazine at Derek Anthony’s house.
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A thread about a beautiful women without her pics is about as useless as a copy of Hustler magazine at Derek Anthony’s house.
How about that?
www.mjviking.com
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I took asparagus and nothing else!
Marika,
What is so special about asparagus?
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Marika,
What is so special about asparagus?
it a natural diuretic
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it a natural diuretic
Thanks :)
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Thanks :)
....and it isnt so harsh that is sucks the life out of the muscles. It draws from under the skin, just where you need it taken care of.
www.mjviking.com
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....and it isnt so harsh that is sucks the life out of the muscles. It draws from under the skin, just where you need it taken care of.
www.mjviking.com
I will have to give asparagus a try. Thanks Marika :)
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How about that?
www.mjviking.com
Much better, thanks. You are ripped to shreds with great mass, good job.
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finally another attractive female bb
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Marika's conditioning was unreal at the Europa. Everyone was murmurring she was "too ripped" and "too shredded".
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Marika's conditioning was unreal at the Europa. Everyone was murmurring she was "too ripped" and "too shredded".
I think she looks great :o
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marika nice pics on your site....you should use other fonts tho..(kinda hard to read and hard on the eyes) ;)
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Marika jag antar att du pratar svenska eller hur? ;)
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Marika jag antar att du pratar svenska eller hur? ;)
Klart hon gör.
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the meat and potatos you have interest in:
aromasin by pfizer A MUST. cytadren can be good too.
good test by norma,,upojohn,,watson
anavar/halo
trenbolone males only! although women use it all over the place in bb now days
masteron
winstrol for specific individuals only after approved by me
clenbuterol and t3 for females although i see it as waste of time for anyone unless you wanna shake some and get your muscles flat looking here and there,,clean diet should be inplace insted of clen and t3.
duretics
diet
* human grade aromasin and little test/tren with clean diet by itself! will take adonis pupil tweet;D and dry him and slice him and condition him with out sweating much while keeping him at 200lb
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....and it isnt so harsh that is sucks the life out of the muscles. It draws from under the skin, just where you need it taken care of.
www.mjviking.com
wow you do look good, nice shape keep it up
wow i've just learn something today about asparagus, thank for the info, nice website too!
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will somebody please give gh his own thread.... this guy is too real, i love it
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How about that?
www.mjviking.com
Thank you and thank you. Crazy body and beautiful face, can this be possible? :o Straight up answer too. Think I luv her ;D
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What was your opinion. I appriciate your honesty.
Marika's conditioning was unreal at the Europa. Everyone was murmurring she was "too ripped" and "too shredded".
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Thank you ;)
finally another attractive female bb
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Thank you :-*
I think she looks great :o
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Thank you for the advice.. I am changing it now.. ;) I'm happy you liked my pics.
marika nice pics on your site....you should use other fonts tho..(kinda hard to read and hard on the eyes) ;)
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javisst gor jag det!! Sa bara prata pa :)
www.mjviking.com
Marika jag antar att du pratar svenska eller hur? ;)
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Tack for hjalpen .Kul att se fler svenska har. ;)
Klart hon gör.
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What was your opinion. I appriciate your honesty.
I know you didn't ask me, but IMO there is no such thing as being too ripped.
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wow you do look good, nice shape keep it up
wow i've just learn something today about asparagus, thank for the info, nice website too!
Thank you, I will. I'm glad I could help you with some advice. ;)
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marika you'd look 10 x better without the drugs. discuss!
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What, no love? :'( .......Keep the pics comin, u look amazing! ;D
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Discuss......... :(
marika you'd look 10 x better without the drugs. discuss!
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Ohhh, I'm so sorry Big Nutz ;D. Lots of love :-*
What, no love? :'( .......Keep the pics comin, u look amazing! ;D
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x
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Very nice, Marika
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Keep posing pics Marika, you look great. I'm half Swedish myself (other half Norwegian), and seeing you makes me want to go to back the motherland :)
BTW - Don't worry about Rich, he's been on this big anti-drug campaign ever since going blind from Viagra abuse.
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You look great. You've managed to create a great body while keep a feminine face.
Amazing.
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im a marika schmoe now after seeing her website and pics in this thread.
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Yaaaaaaaay for the Scandi's....hehe
You look great, girl! When is your next contest?
Fint at det er noen fler norske/svenske her inne paa forumet!
Lena
www.lenajohannesen.com
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What was your opinion. I appriciate your honesty.
You could teach the men a thing or two about conditioning. You were in better condition then the men at that show. You were the most conditioned competitors out of the men and women that day. Was it too much? Probably for that show on that day but I'd much rather have someone say I was "too ripped" and not place high then the opposite.
I was a bit confused on some of the placings at that show as the rewarded physiques were all over the map. All you can do it come in where you're happy and let the chips fall where they may. As soon as you try to soften up for the next show, everyone may come in ripped leaving you on the outside looking in again.
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Ohhh, I'm so sorry Big Nutz ;D. Lots of love :-*
Nice! :-*
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Very nice, Marika
Thankyou
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Keep posing pics Marika, you look great. I'm half Swedish myself (other half Norwegian), and seeing you makes me want to go to back the motherland :)
BTW - Don't worry about Rich, he's been on this big anti-drug campaign ever since going blind from Viagra abuse.
Why would you want to go back to Sweden.......I'm here in the US :)
Thanks for the advice
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You look great. You've managed to create a great body while keep a feminine face.
Amazing.
Thankyou. Its all about use and dont abuse.
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Thankyou. Its all about use and dont abuse.
What is your contest cycles like?
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im a marika schmoe now after seeing her website and pics in this thread.
You wouldnt be the first ;). The more the merrier
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Yaaaaaaaay for the Scandi's....hehe
You look great, girl! When is your next contest?
Fint at det er noen fler norske/svenske her inne paa forumet!
Lena
www.lenajohannesen.com
Hej Lena!! tack sa mkt...du ar for gullig...my next show is in August at the Europa again. Hope to see u soon..Lets catch up a day soon..
we live so close by each other...manga kramar...
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you actually have a nice face marika, i think you should quit the juice cause you never know when the tables may turn against you, just do it all natural fuck trying to look crazy, youve already done it achieved it, now just look normal and cute still workout be healthy. just let me be your natural muscle stud at 6feet6(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig267.jpg)
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You could teach the men a thing or two about conditioning. You were in better condition then the men at that show. You were the most conditioned competitors out of the men and women that day. Was it too much? Probably for that show on that day but I'd much rather have someone say I was "too ripped" and not place high then the opposite.
I was a bit confused on some of the placings at that show as the rewarded physiques were all over the map. All you can do it come in where you're happy and let the chips fall where they may. As soon as you try to soften up for the next show, everyone may come in ripped leaving you on the outside looking in again.
Thankyou. I was also very confused, as was Dorian when he saw the pics. What made me feel fine with my placing's was that everyone was so nice and complimentary, even my competition. You were right about the men, my nutritionist was approached by two pro males to help get their condition dry like mine for future shows.
I decided to go ahead with excactly what you advise, come in ripped again because it feels strange dieting 80%. This time I am just going to come in bigger.
I hope to see you at the Ironman...?
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What is your contest cycles like?
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Thankyou. I was also very confused, as was Dorian when he saw the pics. What made me feel fine with my placing's was that everyone was so nice and complimentary, even my competition. You were right about the men, my nutritionist was approached by two pro males to help get their condition dry like mine for future shows.
I decided to go ahead with excactly what you advise, come in ripped again because it feels strange dieting 80%. This time I am just going to come in bigger.
I hope to see you at the Ironman...?
marika just quit taking steroids for god sakes! what the fuck you trying to prove being a competitive bb taking steroids taking RISKS on your life and health, are you really that stupid?
what i see is a very good looking perfect 10 looking girl WITHOUT drugs
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Thankyou. I was also very confused, as was Dorian when he saw the pics. What made me feel fine with my placing's was that everyone was so nice and complimentary, even my competition. You were right about the men, my nutritionist was approached by two pro males to help get their condition dry like mine for future shows.
I decided to go ahead with excactly what you advise, come in ripped again because it feels strange dieting 80%. This time I am just going to come in bigger.
I hope to see you at the Ironman...?
Man is she ripped in that photo!!! :o :o :o
That's the sort of thing you used to see in the 80's, but not so much now!
And she's gorgeous pretty much all the way up till the day of the show. On the 2nd page, there are a couple of photos that are just killer of her! :)
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How do you know what I take and dont take >:(
If I was abusing then I may have facial hair, a deep voice and a masculine face. I thank my education and foresight not to ever listen to anyone else that may risk my life or future.
If you are refering to my facial hardness in the contest photo's.......... I am that dry, I only look like that for maybe 4 or 5 days.
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Man is she ripped in that photo!!! :o :o :o
That's the sort of thing you used to see in the 80's, but not so much now!
And she's gorgeous pretty much all the way up till the day of the show. On the 2nd page, there are a couple of photos that are just killer of her! :)
Now you I listen to ;)
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How do you know what I take and dont take >:(
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/378935199_f1e0fc7ca3_m.jpg)
You asked. :-\
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I don't think even males can escape the effects of a contest diet especially on the day of the show. Women, just seem like they have it worse, because of what society thinks as being "sexy." Being starved for months on end, diuretics (or asparagus!), and whatever amount of hormones they may take, and probably the biggest factor in all of it is the % of body fat.
Proof, all you need to look at, is the photos of Marika where she is not onstage. She's gorgeous. That photo of her laying on the bed? I just wish I could be there next to her! :)
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why even take anysteroids if you are only taking 'a little bit of steroids' , dont be a dumb blonde you got alot going for you but you are about to fuck it up.
steroids are like planting a seed in you
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This girl did NOT get ripped by using drugs. She dieted her ass off!! The facial hardness is just from not having any fat on her face. It's only temporary.
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This girl did NOT get ripped by using drugs. She dieted her ass off!! The facial hardness is just from not having any fat on her face. It's only temporary.
Exactly!
I am a lifetime natural and have been told by so called experts that I am, or have some time taken the gear ::). My sway for the natural side has never been because of possible health complications because I believe I am educated enough not to make stupid decisions as I know Marika wouldnt either.
www.kagedmuscle.com
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This girl did NOT get ripped by using drugs. She dieted her ass off!! The facial hardness is just from not having any fat on her face. It's only temporary.
I'm impressed by the conditioning and it took a lot of suffering and hard work I'm sure. BUT let's be real here - that look takes a lot of drugs. Period.
She's maybe the leanest FBB I've seen. I guess no other female has ever dieted hard before. :-\
Again, I'm very impressed by the conditioning though. Good job.
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I'm impressed by the conditioning and it took a lot of suffering and hard work I'm sure. BUT let's be real here - that look takes a lot of drugs. Period.
She's maybe the leanest FBB I've seen. I guess no other female has ever dieted hard before. :-\
Again, I'm very impressed by the conditioning though. Good job.
I am not talking about a "look", I am specifically talking about BF levels. No amount of drugs will make you that lean. You must diet correctly.
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Could you post your diet please.
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its a combo of hormones and diet,,,but just so we all on the same page here,,,lots of hormones gone into that bod,,diet is there to the t,,like 99% of competitors during prep
there is a lot more than diet that got her to look this way,,so for the natural kidos here,,keep it real and you wont be disapointed
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its a combo of hormones and diet,,,but just so we all on the same page here,,,lots of hormones gone into that bod,,diet is there to the t,,like 99% of competitors during prep
there is a lot more than diet that got her to look this way,,so for the natural kidos here,,keep it real and you wont be disapointed
You give too much credit to drugs. They all are on the same stuff more or less. So they all should look like that. The reason they don't is because either they dieted wrong, didn't have the discipline, worried too much about losing size or messed up their last minute water depletion.
Everyone is looking for the magic pill that doesn't exist. Drugs can add a grainy look, but as long as you have any amount of fat on you it will not show no matter how much hormones you take. Maybe Marika will tell you otherwise, but there is only one way to get that lean and it takes a lot of suffering.
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considering i have done it years upon years and to this day i place consistently top 10 o,,i know what it takes to get there
i mentioned the word combo and that means diet had a big part in her final presentation,,but to tell me i give too much credit to drugs will be wrong,,
1. maintaining of muscle during prep is done by the use of drugs,,with out them she would lose a lot of muscle and end up looking like a girl that starved herself
2. as a female getting down to any lower than 10% bodyfat and losing the stubborn adipose baby fat that every female has due to high estrogen levels,,will demand a good amount of androgens/anabolics NOT ONLY DIETand a good anti aromatase,,this girl used them all and no she is not using only nolvadex
3. when she did get to very low bf% she had to use the right androgens inorder to dramatically increase density and hardness of the muscle and for that she used products such as winstrol and masteron ,,now im not saying she used the doses i use,,,but she used var,,masteron,,winstrol,,primo to some degree,,woudnt be surprized if she used low dose halo like plenty of female competitors
4. as i said before diet to the t is a must for the drugs to make their magic especially during prep when trying to get down to very low bf%
5. duretics were used
6. there is a reason you dont see women looking like that during the 70s and 80s,,reason is?.........you got that right DRUGS,,women got brave,,got more freedom,,,saw what drugs made us look like as bodybuilders and copy cat,,copy cat to the t,,,only reason they are smaller is because they are females to begin with and not males.
in her case she is lucky to have ok face and she doesnt look as manly as she could have been otherwize,,
the truth is written on the walls loud and clear and its sad i need to bring it to this board
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you guys think too much.
who cares what she takes, she looks great
and disgusted is right, there is no such thing as "too much ripped"
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considering i have done it years upon years and to this day i place consistently top 10 o,,i know what it takes to get there
i mentioned the word combo and that means diet had a big part in her final presentation,,but to tell me i give too much credit to drugs will be wrong,,
1. maintaining of muscle during prep is done by the use of drugs,,with out them she would lose a lot of muscle and end up looking like a girl that starved herself
She does look like she starved herself and she does not have "that" much muscle although I am not debating whether she took drugs. When someone gets shredded they always look starved due to lack of facial fat.
2. as a female getting down to any lower than 10% bodyfat and losing the stubborn adipose baby fat that every female has due to high estrogen levels,,will demand a good amount of androgens/anabolics NOT ONLY DIETand a good anti aromatase,,this girl used them all and no she is not using only nolvadex
[WRONG!! Once a woman gets down to a certain % (different for every girl) she stops having a period and stops producing estrogen. Estrogen is no longer a factor. Also, nolvadex is worthless for women as it only stops the binding of estrogen at the receptor site. Woman already have boobs.
3. when she did get to very low bf% she had to use the right androgens inorder to dramatically increase density and hardness of the muscle and for that she used products such as winstrol and masteron ,,now im not saying she used the doses i use,,,but she used var,,masteron,,winstrol,,primo to some degree,,woudnt be surprized if she used low dose halo like plenty of female competitors
Again I am not debating her drugs use so I would not be surprised, although I have seen a few natural women (my wife included) get shredded with out drugs.
4. as i said before diet to the t is a must for the drugs to make their magic especially during prep when trying to get down to very low bf%
Agreed
5. duretics were used
I have no idea, but I have gotten people as dry without them.
6. there is a reason you dont see women looking like that during the 70s and 80s,,reason is?.........you got that right DRUGS,,women got brave,,got more freedom,,,saw what drugs made us look like as bodybuilders and copy cat,,copy cat to the t,,,only reason they are smaller is because they are females to begin with and not males.
in her case she is lucky to have ok face and she doesnt look as manly as she could have been otherwize,,
the truth is written on the walls loud and clear and its sad i need to bring it to this board
It was not a requirement for woman in the 80's to get that ripped so that is why you did not see any.
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na she doenst look starved,,sucked in dry face yes but not starved,,,starved is a diff look i dont wish on anyone,,just click anorexia and you will see the how big of a diff it is,,,she is chizeled not starved!
to the estrogen,,,there is always some circulating in the system and as i said she doesnt use nolvadex she use aromatase inhibitor ,, she got to first get down in bodyfat% she didnt start at 5% and when she started building she wasnt at 8%,,, she was most likley at 15-20% like many scandiniavian girls i met,,she had period,,she had to go down in bodyfat% with out losing much muscle,,and she used aromatase inibitor and most likely started like every woman with nolvadex which will work on women too since it is not only for eliminating boobs,, there are more receptor sites that women needs it for not only boobs,,
the female body,, the moment it is on aas/gh,, will produce estrogen simply because the test level will rise so the body couteract by producing estrogen,,same as men,, inorder to eliminate it,,, in her case at this stage! she uses aromatase inibitor to eliminate estrogen completely since even little bit of estrogen will take away from the look she is after. period
i had a female fitness! chicitita once going bonanza on me because the remailers didnt send her her cytadren,,it was left out,,then out of stock,,i was telin her to drink lots of oranjuice insted untill it gets there,,its the same,,,to this day she dont talk to me ;D
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I don't think estrogen inhibits fat burning really, especially in an androgen rich environment. Estrogen is actually a lipolytic hormone like testosterone (maybe why Nolva works for fat loss, it acts like an estrogen in some tissues!). Progesterone OTOH is more "evil" in this respect. A male on testosterone without any antiestrogens loses fat just fine.
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I don't think estrogen inhibits fat burning really, especially in an androgen rich environment. Estrogen is actually a lipolytic hormone like testosterone (maybe why Nolva works for fat loss, it acts like an estrogen in some tissues!). Progesterone OTOH is more "evil" in this respect. A male on testosterone without any antiestrogens loses fat just fine.
i can be the bloatest mother fucker on planet earth,,,then go on aromasin for 30-40 and lose mos of the water,,a lot of fat,,and increase test level at the same time,,basically i can go from no pack to 6 pack on aromasin
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i can be the bloatest mother fucker on planet earth,,,then go on aromasin for 30-40 and lose mos of the water,,a lot of fat,,and increase test level at the same time,,basically i can go from no pack to 6 pack on aromasin
Estrogen can make you retain water for sure. Not everyone retains a lot of water on testosterone though, some can run test all the way through a show and be ripped and dry without antiestrogens - from what I've seen.
Do you feel Aromasin is the best for a dry look? Better than Femara etc?
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Estrogen can make you retain water for sure. Not everyone retains a lot of water on testosterone though, some can run test all the way through a show and be ripped and dry without antiestrogens - from what I've seen.
Do you feel Aromasin is the best for a dry look? Better than Femara etc?
yes
aromasin is the best product ever made for preventing estrogen related sides with out taking from the gains,,,nolva will take from the gains a little,,so does arimidex,,
aromasin aka extemestane by pfizer 7663 is BY FAR the best product out there,, it dry you out fast,,it bring out the abs out of no where,,especially if you hold water and think you are 10-11% yet cant see abs,,,try aromasin,,i promise you that you wil see 6 pack after 30-60 days at 10%
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in the offseason marika is one hot sexy woman.
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cytadren,,it was left out,,then out of stock,,i was telin her to drink lots of oranjuice insted untill it gets there,,its the same,,,
Gh15 - could you elaborate on this more? (about the OJ)
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Props to
Dennis gh15 for telling the truth. All drugs! :P
The only reason guys are saying Marika looks "feminine" is because she was an attractive woman before she started juicin'.
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considering i have done it years upon years and to this day i place consistently top 10 o,,i know what it takes to get there
i mentioned the word combo and that means diet had a big part in her final presentation,,but to tell me i give too much credit to drugs will be wrong,,
1. maintaining of muscle during prep is done by the use of drugs,,with out them she would lose a lot of muscle and end up looking like a girl that starved herself
2. as a female getting down to any lower than 10% bodyfat and losing the stubborn adipose baby fat that every female has due to high estrogen levels,,will demand a good amount of androgens/anabolics NOT ONLY DIETand a good anti aromatase,,this girl used them all and no she is not using only nolvadex
3. when she did get to very low bf% she had to use the right androgens inorder to dramatically increase density and hardness of the muscle and for that she used products such as winstrol and masteron ,,now im not saying she used the doses i use,,,but she used var,,masteron,,winstrol,,primo to some degree,,woudnt be surprized if she used low dose halo like plenty of female competitors
4. as i said before diet to the t is a must for the drugs to make their magic especially during prep when trying to get down to very low bf%
5. duretics were used
6. there is a reason you dont see women looking like that during the 70s and 80s,,reason is?.........you got that right DRUGS,,women got brave,,got more freedom,,,saw what drugs made us look like as bodybuilders and copy cat,,copy cat to the t,,,only reason they are smaller is because they are females to begin with and not males.
in her case she is lucky to have ok face and she doesnt look as manly as she could have been otherwize,,
the truth is written on the walls loud and clear and its sad i need to bring it to this board
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You are obviously not a very educated person are you............Oh I'm sorry I forgot everyone is an expert ::).
You maybe able to pursuade any weak minded individual that I used your listed substances to hold onto muscle, but your obvious jelousy and excuse for your own lack of natural condition falls out of the ball park.
I am the first to admit that I would much prefer to lose some muscle on a diet (which I do) than to use your crazy choices of drugs. Halo, Masteron (are you crazy :o) primo and whatever var...... is, are substances I did not see in my diary. On my last diet, my "natural" nutritionist advised I use high amounts of MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible. >:(
Let me tell you something....... If I had used an illegal duretic, my already low fluid levels would have flattened my muscle (which I believe should have been fuller) to a point that I would have appeared to hold fluid. I see the mistake being made by pro's time and time again. If you are fairly dry and fat free a couple of days out, why take the risk. The result = looks great the day before, flat and watery on the day. There is only so much the liver and kidney can flush before retaining.
Sorry you brought yourself to the board
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GH15 = owned
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Wow Marika. If you achieved that naturally, I would love to know the exact formula. Do you give diet advice on your website? Awesome job indeed.
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GH15 = owned
GH15 + Billy Blanco = Owned
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I'm impressed by the conditioning and it took a lot of suffering and hard work I'm sure. BUT let's be real here - that look takes a lot of drugs. Period.
She's maybe the leanest FBB I've seen. I guess no other female has ever dieted hard before. :-\
Again, I'm very impressed by the conditioning though. Good job.
I have dieted a lot harder in the past ( the usual 2 hours cardio per day and low carbs). After 12 years of error I have been taught to have faith in my god given awesome metabolism and harden up via nutrition instead of excess cardio.
Thank you for you compliments. I plan to repeat the same this year ;
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considering i have done it years upon years and to this day i place consistently top 10 o,,i know what it takes to get there
i mentioned the word combo and that means diet had a big part in her final presentation,,but to tell me i give too much credit to drugs will be wrong,,
1. maintaining of muscle during prep is done by the use of drugs,,with out them she would lose a lot of muscle and end up looking like a girl that starved herself
2. as a female getting down to any lower than 10% bodyfat and losing the stubborn adipose baby fat that every female has due to high estrogen levels,,will demand a good amount of androgens/anabolics NOT ONLY DIETand a good anti aromatase,,this girl used them all and no she is not using only nolvadex
3. when she did get to very low bf% she had to use the right androgens inorder to dramatically increase density and hardness of the muscle and for that she used products such as winstrol and masteron ,,now im not saying she used the doses i use,,,but she used var,,masteron,,winstrol,,primo to some degree,,woudnt be surprized if she used low dose halo like plenty of female competitors
4. as i said before diet to the t is a must for the drugs to make their magic especially during prep when trying to get down to very low bf%
5. duretics were used
6. there is a reason you dont see women looking like that during the 70s and 80s,,reason is?.........you got that right DRUGS,,women got brave,,got more freedom,,,saw what drugs made us look like as bodybuilders and copy cat,,copy cat to the t,,,only reason they are smaller is because they are females to begin with and not males.
in her case she is lucky to have ok face and she doesnt look as manly as she could have been otherwize,,
the truth is written on the walls loud and clear and its sad i need to bring it to this board
You are obviously not a very educated person are you............Oh I'm sorry I forgot everyone is an expert ::).
You maybe able to pursuade any weak minded individual that I used your listed substances to hold onto muscle, but your obvious jelousy and excuse for your own lack of natural condition falls out of the ball park.
I am the first to admit that I would much prefer to lose some muscle on a diet (which I do) than to use your crazy choices of drugs. Halo, Masteron (are you crazy :o) primo and whatever var...... is, are substances I did not see in my diary. On my last diet, my "natural" nutritionist advised I use high amounts of MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible. >:(
Let me tell you something....... If I had used an illegal duretic, my already low fluid levels would have flattened my muscle (which I believe should have been fuller) to a point that I would have appeared to hold fluid. I see the mistake being made by pro's time and time again. If you are fairly dry and fat free a couple of days out, why take the risk. The result = looks great the day before, flat and watery on the day. There is only so much the liver and kidney can flush before retaining.
Sorry you brought yourself to the board
That lines up exactly with what Dorian has said......he claims to have not used diuretics as well.
Can you give us some more insight on Yates?
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GH15 = owned
I dont agree GH15 was owned.
Marika might not have used Halo, Masteron, etc But to ask what is Var is ridiculous as I doubt there is a IFBB or top NPC female competitor not familiar with Anavar (Var, Oxandrolone, Oxanabol, Oxandrine).
Also nothing is shocking with women using Masteron (low dosage of course) as it was designed for women in the first place (breast cancer).
Regardless what she used or did not used, props to her for achieving great and probably best conditioning ever seen on a woman.
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Klart hon gör.
Ojdo du pratar svenska ockso, var har du gomt dig ;D
javisst gor jag det!! Sa bara prata pa :)
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Vad trevligt, jag bor i new york so det er gonska svort och hitta retta alfabeterna. Men jag ska forsoka och skriva bra :)
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GH15 + Billy Blanco = Owned
Hardly. ::)
Keep being a schmoe if you want to...this chick is FAR from natural.
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Hardly. ::)
Keep being a schmoe if you want to...this chick is FAR from natural.
haha Schmoe, haven't heard that in a while, made me chuckle. Anyway, you may be correct but I believe her so far. Hopefully she will reveal how she does it, if so, I will try it and see how it works.
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That lines up exactly with what Dorian has said......he claims to have not used diuretics as well.
Can you give us some more insight on Yates?
Exactly! He advised Titus not to use them for the Olympia as he was dry enough. He ended up disregarding his advice and look what happened.
Yates and Leroy will be answering questions on Kaged Muscle soon.
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Wow Marika. If you achieved that naturally, I would love to know the exact formula. Do you give diet advice on your website? Awesome job indeed.
My contest diet is on my site but you have to become a member......sorry.
www.mjviking.com
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My contest diet is on my site but you have to become a member......sorry.
www.mjviking.com
Is it the real diet? or just a sample diet like you'd see in the magazines? (which we know is complete BS, since they don't want to give away their secrets in a magazine)
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haha Schmoe, haven't heard that in a while, made me chuckle. Anyway, you may be correct but I believe her so far. Hopefully she will reveal how she does it, if so, I will try it and see how it works.
She already said she wasn't natural. She just refuses to tell what she has taken and acts like every drug mentioned in this thread is something she'd never take. ::)
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Sorry........yes I do know what Anavar is. I have used it minimally in the past but didnt use it for my prep........why? Because I didnt need to!! When I listened to my nutritionist giving advice I had faith, listened and followed through.
Again thanks for the condition compliments. I'm going to the gym now, bye bye. :-*
I dont agree GH15 was owned.
Marika might not have used Halo, Masteron, etc But to ask what is Var is ridiculous as I doubt there is a IFBB or top NPC female competitor not familiar with Anavar (Var, Oxandrolone, Oxanabol, Oxandrine).
Also nothing is shocking with women using Masteron (low dosage of course) as it was designed for women in the first place (breast cancer).
Regardless what she used or did not used, props to her for achieving great and probably best conditioning ever seen on a woman.
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Is it the real diet? or just a sample diet like you'd see in the magazines? (which we know is complete BS, since they don't want to give away their secrets in a magazine)
hmmm, no reply to my question = I'm not paying to get some sample BS diet found countless times in any BB magazine. No offense, but no thanks.
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Hardly. ::)
Keep being a schmoe if you want to...this chick is FAR from natural.
Well, to be fair she didn't claim natural status.
Of course, everyone tries to minimize the impact of drugs but they are important in this game. Totally natural she would have the muscularity of Rachel McLish or thereabouts.
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Well, to be fair she didn't claim natural status.
Of course, everyone tries to minimize the impact of drugs but they are important in this game. Totally natural she would have the muscularity of Rachel McLish or thereabouts.
Like I stated above, she shouldn't pretend to be shocked when someone exposes the drugs she likely is using.
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I don't have time to at the moment why anti estrogens for woman are not a magic bullet, but just to give you guys an example what diet can do her is a pic of my wife. Now, before everyone stats making claims I'll save some people the emarassment and tell you that this pic was taken in 1993 before anti estrogens and before Gh was available, at least to me. I am not sure if clen was around, but if it was I sure as heck did not know where to get it. She took ZERO drugs and no vitamins or protein powders.
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i used growth on a regular basis in 1993
i used ole russian ones in 1989
i used nolvadex and other anti since 1989 also
your wife and her is 2 diff things,,far from same level,,your wife does look good
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i used growth on a regular basis in 1993
i used ole russian ones in 1989
i used nolvadex and other anti since 1989 also
your wife and her is 2 diff things,,far from same level,,your wife does look good
Thanks :) but I'll say again, it's her "level" of bodyfat that I am making a point about. I know that she doesn't have that drug look but that is not what I am talking about. This pic was taken at the 1993 Nationals and she was the "leanest" girl on stage with no drugs. Even Dave Fisher make a comment about how lean she was and his wife at the time Sue Price won the overall.
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Thanks :)
Magnum what do ya think about my avatar signature bro :)
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Gh15 - could you elaborate on this more? (about the OJ)
the orange juice was a joke,,,it is something you should expect to hear from marika,,,orange juice will be her way to reduce cortisol and fight it ;),,,ofcourse it is a big big lie and the solution lie in using cytadren and other products that reduce estrogen like the superior 7663 by pfizer
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Magnum what do ya think about my avatar signature bro :)
I like bro, but I think you're a one or two man show at them moment. :'( ;D
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I like bro, but I think you're a one or two man show at them moment. :'( ;D
what's that suppposed to mean dude, explain further bro lol
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You are obviously not a very educated person are you............Oh I'm sorry I forgot everyone is an expert ::).
You maybe able to pursuade any weak minded individual that I used your listed substances to hold onto muscle, but your obvious jelousy and excuse for your own lack of natural condition falls out of the ball park.
I am the first to admit that I would much prefer to lose some muscle on a diet (which I do) than to use your crazy choices of drugs. Halo, Masteron (are you crazy :o) primo and whatever var...... is, are substances I did not see in my diary. On my last diet, my "natural" nutritionist advised I use high amounts of MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible. >:(
Let me tell you something....... If I had used an illegal duretic, my already low fluid levels would have flattened my muscle (which I believe should have been fuller) to a point that I would have appeared to hold fluid. I see the mistake being made by pro's time and time again. If you are fairly dry and fat free a couple of days out, why take the risk. The result = looks great the day before, flat and watery on the day. There is only so much the liver and kidney can flush before retaining.
Sorry you brought yourself to the board
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the thing i hate the most and make their life hell in bodybuilding are liars,,try to remind yourself this if you ever wanna get somewhere,,remember what you get after all,, most likely go through me,,so be careful when you approach me and do it with respect
1. why would i be jelous of you? you are a female with small muscles as a result of trainiing, hormones and nutrition,,key word is hormones!
2. you are very femiliar with my "crazy" choices of drugs,, i didnt say you used this exact combo to the t,,i didnt say you use halo on a regular basis,,i said you use a combo of drugs that give the effect halo does,,,and it may well be halotestin too somewhere in there
3. you have to learn to lie with grace,,your lies here are bordering disgrace for bodybuilding,,who do you think those people who read this are?? some of them are also bodybuilders!! learn to lie a white lie if you want to lie,,MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible,,,good lord mct and flax do not have anything to do with this level of condition you moron,,other wize plenty of MALE COMPETITORS ON THE NATURAL STAGE WOULD PRESENT SAME OR BETTER CONDITION,,and guess what,,,they dont! and trust me you are not genetically blessed!
4. we sell injectable duretics that are perfect for a quick final touch,,they dont flatten your muscles if used them right,,,and let me tell you a little secret ,,,part of the reason disgusted think you look starved is cause your muscles are flat!
5. you cant teach the teacher girly,,you just cant,,its like you telling the pope how to do the ceremony ;)
* i sometime look at pictures that guys put here and i saw that picture of the mesomorph black kido,,,now what in your fucked up brain make you think you are more blessed than him,,he is a male,,, he got 10 times beter genetics than you,,he put as much effort in,,and you still look better,,why?? cuz you have a website that you register to give diet that wont work on no one and make a few bucks on the side??
NO,, it is only due to ONE SINGLE REASON woman,, the reason is called HORMONES and lots of them!
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what's that suppposed to mean dude, explain further bro lol
Just meant that I don't have that many fans. ;)
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I don't have time to at the moment why anti estrogens for woman are not a magic bullet, but just to give you guys an example what diet can do her is a pic of my wife. Now, before everyone stats making claims I'll save some people the emarassment and tell you that this pic was taken in 1993 before anti estrogens and before Gh was available, at least to me. I am not sure if clen was around, but if it was I sure as heck did not know where to get it. She took ZERO drugs and no vitamins or protein powders.
She looks very impressive, especially if she was clean. You're not saying she was a lifetime natural though, right?
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Yes much better dosage/water control with injectable lasix. MCT and flax, oh my god please stop.
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Just meant that I don't have that many fans. ;)
ahh what are you kidding me, if most of these losers knew your kinda guy i'm pretty sure they'd be a fan of your work & personality as well bro. 8)
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the point is that it doesnt matter if she is on a little or alot of juice she still on juice, and its a dumb move
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She looks very impressive, especially if she was clean. You're not saying she was a lifetime natural though, right?
Yes I am. If I am remembering correctly she only weighed about 111 in that pic, hardly I huge person. One of the reasons that she retired was because she could not pu on any more size without drugs, In those day the lightweight cut off was 112 I think. She would never have been able to compete with the middle weights. Now I think the cut off is 118.
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You are obviously not a very educated person are you............Oh I'm sorry I forgot everyone is an expert ::).
You maybe able to pursuade any weak minded individual that I used your listed substances to hold onto muscle, but your obvious jelousy and excuse for your own lack of natural condition falls out of the ball park.
I am the first to admit that I would much prefer to lose some muscle on a diet (which I do) than to use your crazy choices of drugs. Halo, Masteron (are you crazy :o) primo and whatever var...... is, are substances I did not see in my diary. On my last diet, my "natural" nutritionist advised I use high amounts of MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible. >:(
Let me tell you something....... If I had used an illegal duretic, my already low fluid levels would have flattened my muscle (which I believe should have been fuller) to a point that I would have appeared to hold fluid. I see the mistake being made by pro's time and time again. If you are fairly dry and fat free a couple of days out, why take the risk. The result = looks great the day before, flat and watery on the day. There is only so much the liver and kidney can flush before retaining.
Sorry you brought yourself to the board
the thing i hate the most and make their life hell in bodybuilding are liars,,try to remind yourself this if you ever wanna get somewhere,,remember what you get after all,, most likely go through me,,so be careful when you approach me and do it with respect
1. why would i be jelous of you? you are a female with small muscles as a result of trainiing, hormones and nutrition,,key word is hormones!
2. you are very femiliar with my "crazy" choices of drugs,, i didnt say you used this exact combo to the t,,i didnt say you use halo on a regular basis,,i said you use a combo of drugs that give the effect halo does,,,and it may well be halotestin too somewhere in there
3. you have to learn to lie with grace,,your lies here are bordering disgrace for bodybuilding,,who do you think those people who read this are?? some of them are also bodybuilders!! learn to lie a white lie if you want to lie,,MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible,,,good lord mct and flax do not have anything to do with this level of condition you moron,,other wize plenty of MALE COMPETITORS ON THE NATURAL STAGE WOULD PRESENT SAME OR BETTER CONDITION,,and guess what,,,they dont! and trust me you are not genetically blessed!
4. we sell injectable duretics that are perfect for a quick final touch,,they dont flatten your muscles if used them right,,,and let me tell you a little secret ,,,part of the reason disgusted think you look starved is cause your muscles are flat!
5. you cant teach the teacher girly,,you just cant,,its like you telling the pope how to do the ceremony ;)
* i sometime look at pictures that guys put here and i saw that picture of the mesomorph black kido,,,now what in your fucked up brain make you think you are more blessed than him,,he is a male,,, he got 10 times beter genetics than you,,he put as much effort in,,and you still look better,,why?? cuz you have a website that you register to give diet that wont work on no one and make a few bucks on the side??
NO,, it is only due to ONE SINGLE REASON woman,, the reason is called HORMONES and lots of them!
I apreciate honesty gh15 .Well put.
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Im not going to treat you like your stupid by telling you Im natural but I bet I was probably the most natural person on stage.
I guess many people missed this particular sentence!
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gh15 is the realist motherfu*#er on this site. The guy tells it like it is.....No Bullshit. My training partner is national level and i know whats up behind the scenes. Why the denial? are we scared of the influence on the kiddies? this "sport" is filthy, perhaps the reason it doesnt receive more media attention. The O is not even on PPV anymore? Its chemical warefare at the national and pro level.....plain and simple, these "heros" will do whatever it takes to look better. even at the expense of a kidney
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the thing i hate the most and make their life hell in bodybuilding are liars,,try to remind yourself this if you ever wanna get somewhere,,remember what you get after all,, most likely go through me,,so be careful when you approach me and do it with respect
1. why would i be jelous of you? you are a female with small muscles as a result of trainiing, hormones and nutrition,,key word is hormones!
2. you are very femiliar with my "crazy" choices of drugs,, i didnt say you used this exact combo to the t,,i didnt say you use halo on a regular basis,,i said you use a combo of drugs that give the effect halo does,,,and it may well be halotestin too somewhere in there
3. you have to learn to lie with grace,,your lies here are bordering disgrace for bodybuilding,,who do you think those people who read this are?? some of them are also bodybuilders!! learn to lie a white lie if you want to lie,,MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible,,,good lord mct and flax do not have anything to do with this level of condition you moron,,other wize plenty of MALE COMPETITORS ON THE NATURAL STAGE WOULD PRESENT SAME OR BETTER CONDITION,,and guess what,,,they dont! and trust me you are not genetically blessed!
4. we sell injectable duretics that are perfect for a quick final touch,,they dont flatten your muscles if used them right,,,and let me tell you a little secret ,,,part of the reason disgusted think you look starved is cause your muscles are flat!
5. you cant teach the teacher girly,,you just cant,,its like you telling the pope how to do the ceremony
* i sometime look at pictures that guys put here and i saw that picture of the mesomorph black kido,,,now what in your fucked up brain make you think you are more blessed than him,,he is a male,,, he got 10 times beter genetics than you,,he put as much effort in,,and you still look better,,why?? cuz you have a website that you register to give diet that wont work on no one and make a few bucks on the side??
NO,, it is only due to ONE SINGLE REASON woman,, the reason is called HORMONES and lots of them!
Fantastic! :D
People in this sport lie so much they start to believe their own shit.
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Fantastic! :D
People in this sport lie so much they start to believe their own shit.
Amen
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Is it the real diet? or just a sample diet like you'd see in the magazines? (which we know is complete BS, since they don't want to give away their secrets in a magazine)
The diet is the 'real' diet I followed. I cant say if it will do the same for you because it was designed specialy for my body type and the training program Dorian advised for me.
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To the rest of you guys.....not once did I say I was natural.
As far as the CLA's etc. You are welcome to pick Yates's brain and ask him why he advised them in high doses whilst I was dieting.
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To the rest of you guys.....not once did I say I was natural.
As far as the CLA's etc. You are welcome to pick Yates's brain and ask him why he advised them in high doses whilst I was dieting.
Hey Marika.. keep up the good work.
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gh15 is the realist motherfu*#er on this site. The guy tells it like it is.....No Bullshit. My training partner is national level and i know whats up behind the scenes. Why the denial? are we scared of the influence on the kiddies? this "sport" is filthy, perhaps the reason it doesnt receive more media attention. The O is not even on PPV anymore? Its chemical warefare at the national and pro level.....plain and simple, these "heros" will do whatever it takes to look better. even at the expense of a kidney
no shit. i wouild trust the dude.
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1. maintaining of muscle during prep is done by the use of drugs,,with out them she would lose a lot of muscle and end up looking like a girl that starved herself, just like True Adonis.
Now I know why TA has that kinda look. Good job, Adonis! :-X
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Hey Marika.. keep up the good work.
Thankyou AVBG, I will.
PS There is a clip of me training in Metroflex along side Branch Warren and Mike Ergas (Its a clip from my new DVD and Kaged Muscle were shooting Ergas and Branch) on the Kaged Muscle forum. If you a fan of either of us its worth checking out
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Thankyou AVBG, I will.
PS There is a clip of me training in Metroflex along side Branch Warren and Mike Ergas (Its a clip from my new DVD and Kaged Muscle were shooting Ergas and Branch) on the Kaged Muscle forum. If you a fan of either of us its worth checking out
I have already checked it out ( I post there too) .. BTW I rate Ergas' physique to be greater than Branch's..
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....and it isnt so harsh that is sucks the life out of the muscles. It draws from under the skin, just where you need it taken care of.
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Asparagus is by far my favorite vegetable, no doubt. Served with some extra virgin olive oil, it is perfect. However, it is very expensive and it is one of the least valuable vegetables from a nutritional standpoint. Basically, all it offers are fiber and trace amounts of Selenium, Manganese and Molybdenium.
From a health standpoint, the best vegetables are first spinach and then broccoli. They are inexpensive - and taste like shit. Spinach in particular contains over 3000 substances that enhance the absorption of vitamins and minerals, besides that the vegetable itself is very rich in vitamins and minerals, and also antioxidants that slow down ageing and fight cancer.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You look great. You've managed to create a great body while keep a feminine face.
Amazing.
Exactly. She definitely looks like a woman despite the ripped musculature. I like my women to look like women. :P :-* ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Marika you look awesome. just ignore some of these people. you remind me a lot of another great female bodybuilder from the past, Denise Rutkowski. To bad her career ended early. She would of ruled for a long time. Keep up the great job. Whatever you are doing just keep doing it. Obviously whatever it is works.