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Title: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Bluto on January 30, 2007, 03:04:35 PM
Q: Lou, do you subscribe to the high protein diet theory? I've heard that most of the bigger guys like you eat 300-400 grams of protein per day"

A: I consume much less protein than that. Despite the fact that I weight 270 pounds in hard condition, I eat only about 150 grams of protein a day.

This was back in 1980 - 26-27 years ago.  ;)
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: ribonucleic on January 30, 2007, 03:26:00 PM
Has anyone ever seen a scientific study backing up the efficacy of huge protein intake that wasn't published in a bodybuilding magazine whose livelihood depended on advertising from protein supplement companies?
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Rich Gainihger on January 30, 2007, 03:27:15 PM
epic evidence to support the True Adonis.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Bluto on January 30, 2007, 03:28:33 PM
Has anyone ever seen a scientific study backing up the efficacy of huge protein intake that wasn't published in a bodybuilding magazine whose livelihood depended on advertising from protein supplement companies?

nope.  ;)
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Sergio Rules 77 on January 30, 2007, 03:55:41 PM
Has anyone ever seen a scientific study backing up the efficacy of huge protein intake that wasn't published in a bodybuilding magazine whose livelihood depended on advertising from protein supplement companies?

I have a really interesting article in an old ironman mag from the early 80's that says the high protein thing started when anabolic steroids became popular. It states for the steroids to work efficiently, the body needs way more protein than someone who trains naturally. I'll scan it tonight and post it here tomorrow.

SERGIO!!!!
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 04:01:10 PM
High Protein is a joke.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: toolarge4u on January 30, 2007, 04:01:23 PM
lous a close friend of the family and what he said back then is true, however when he came back in 1993-1995 at over 300lbs on stage he ate 400+
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 04:03:49 PM
lous a close friend of the family and what he said back then is true, however when he came back in 1993-1995 at over 300lbs on stage he ate 400+

Looks like he should have stuck with the lowered protein. hahahah

He looked worse when he came back.   :)  (Of course I know it was just the different drugs)
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Sjipes on January 30, 2007, 04:04:07 PM
in that case, it seems to me, someone, in their desperation, thought i know, maybe i can get anabolic-like effects by eating shit loads of protein, just based on the fact it is purely assosiated with steroid use, and nothing else


Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: toolarge4u on January 30, 2007, 04:08:17 PM
Looks like he should have stuck with the lowered protein. hahahah

He looked worse when he came back.   :)  (Of course I know it was just the different drugs)

thats an opinion but its hard to argue either way, he used gh obviously on the comeback
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Krusader on January 30, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
1992 comeback, Lou was consuming 330g a day. Showed up onstage at 298.

Hope this helps unfeed into your dellusion Adam.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Debussey on January 30, 2007, 04:31:01 PM
1992 comeback, Lou was consuming 330g a day. Showed up onstage at 298.

Hope this helps unfeed into your dellusion Adam.


Do you enjoy a fine dick up your arse?
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Sergio Rules 77 on January 30, 2007, 04:38:28 PM
Lou looked way better at the '92 Olympia than he did in '93. He looked even worse for the 1994 Masters Olympia and the documentary Stand Tall, I totally forgot I had that documentary on tape, I wonder why ::). I love the end of it where Lou & his trainer are pissed that Robby won. Huh, Robby looked a million times better than Lou.

SERGIO!!!!
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Chick on January 30, 2007, 04:43:22 PM
Q: Lou, do you subscribe to the high protein diet theory? I've heard that most of the bigger guys like you eat 300-400 grams of protein per day"

A: I consume much less protein than that. Despite the fact that I weight 270 pounds in hard condition, I eat only about 150 grams of protein a day.

This was back in 1980 - 26-27 years ago.  ;)

I'm sure this was accurate..for the timeframe listed. In 1980, LOu had been retired from competition for 5 years....why would he be ingesting more than that anyway?

Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Bluto on January 30, 2007, 04:51:01 PM
I'm sure this was accurate..for the timeframe listed. In 1980, LOu had been retired from competition for 5 years....why would he be ingesting more than that anyway?



270 pounds in hard condition. yet only needed 150 grams.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Krusader on January 30, 2007, 04:53:06 PM
I'm sure this was accurate..for the timeframe listed. In 1980, LOu had been retired from competition for 5 years....why would he be ingesting more than that anyway?



Bob, is Similac a good source of protein nowadays?
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Chico_Holiday on January 30, 2007, 04:55:30 PM
High Protein is a joke.

Very true, the RDA of .8g per pound of lean body mass is actually higher than whats really required, it was rounded up to account for standard deviation.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Royalty on January 30, 2007, 05:00:02 PM
if 150 grams of protein is suffient to one person in a positive nitrogen state, then thats fine for them.

It doesnt mean that it will be enough for the next guy.

Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: pobrecito on January 30, 2007, 05:11:32 PM
Dorian Yates consumed 1.5g/lb of bodyweight....so he was somewhere in the range of 450-500g/day.

Pre-contest, Nasser claimed to be consuming 600g.

Flex claimed 800g.

High protein is hardly a myth...protein is essential for our goals, so it's better to have an excess than not having enough to rebuild tissue.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 05:14:26 PM
Very true, the RDA of .8g per pound of lean body mass is actually higher than whats really required, it was rounded up to account for standard deviation.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Royalty on January 30, 2007, 05:17:04 PM
Exactly.

Couch potatoes and pro athletes have completely different protein requirements. Just as they have differerent sleep and water requirements.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 05:36:08 PM
Couch potatoes and pro athletes have completely different protein requirements. Just as they have differerent sleep and water requirements.
Bodybuilders are not athletes.

The only difference between a bodybuilder and a couch potato are 45 minutes and some dumbells a few times a week.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Krusader on January 30, 2007, 07:44:56 PM
Bodybuilders are not athletes.

The only difference between a bodybuilder and a couch potato are 45 minutes and some dumbells a few times a week.


So why do you bodybuild? Why do you obsesses all evening about fucking protein gram amount?
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 07:48:25 PM
So why do you bodybuild? Why do you obsesses all evening about fucking protein gram amount?

Its good for my body and I like the way I look.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Krusader on January 30, 2007, 07:50:25 PM
Its good for my body and I like the way I look.

So are you saying that neither are you an athlete? Why obsessing so much then?
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: MCWAY on January 30, 2007, 07:53:29 PM
if 150 grams of protein is suffient to one person in a positive nitrogen state, then thats fine for them.

It doesnt mean that it will be enough for the next guy.



EXACTLY!!!

Plus, many of the same guys who need to (but don't) consume more protein will be the EXACT same ones bleating and wailing about being "hardgainers".
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Rich Gainihger on January 30, 2007, 09:05:17 PM
if 150 grams of protein is suffient to one person in a positive nitrogen state, then thats fine for them.

It doesnt mean that it will be enough for the next guy.



Humans do not vary that much.  It's not like one guy can process twice as much protein as another guy.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: tu_holmes on January 30, 2007, 09:41:41 PM
Humans do not vary that much.  It's not like one guy can process twice as much protein as another guy.

I agree... this is not the X-men and there are no "High Protein digesting mutants" running around.

When Lou stepped on stage in the 70s there were no protein supplements, it would have been almost impossible to get in that kind of protein... still looked pretty good didn't he?

I hear he's still a dick though..
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Big N on January 30, 2007, 09:43:21 PM
Dude then who the hell came up with "consuming 400-500g of protein a day??" Man i wish i could find some of those posts fuck
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 31, 2007, 03:13:53 AM
U NEED THE PROTEIN IN THE STOMACH WHILE U ARE AWAKE SO THE BODY CAN HAVE A CONTINUOUS INFLUX OF AMINOS IN THE BLOODSTREAM , THUS KEEPING A POSITIVE NITROGEN BALANCE. HOW MUCH AND HOW OFTEN ...DEPENDS ON A LOT OF THINGS. BUT U NEED TO FEED IT WITH PROTEIN ALL DAY LONG SO TO SPEAK.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: rccs on January 31, 2007, 04:05:47 AM
High Protein is a joke.
Do you build your muscles with hydrates and water? I don't think so...
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: MCWAY on January 31, 2007, 06:34:29 AM
I agree... this is not the X-men and there are no "High Protein digesting mutants" running around.

When Lou stepped on stage in the 70s there were no protein supplements, it would have been almost impossible to get in that kind of protein... still looked pretty good didn't he?

I hear he's still a dick though..

No protein supplements? I beg to differ.

Does the name Rheo Blair ring a bell? He had a popular milk-and-egg protein supplement, used by bodybuilders WAY before Ferrigno. A prime example would the the inaugural Mr. Olympia winner, Larry Scott. He swore by the stuff.

Dude then who the hell came up with "consuming 400-500g of protein a day??" Man i wish i could find some of those posts f**k

Common sense would dictate that such a volume of protein intake is for bigger guys, who are experienced trainers. As well, such an amount is reached GRADUALLY!!! You don't jump from 200to 500 overnight.

There's no need to go to 500 grams of protein, anyway, if you can kickstart your gains going from, say, 200 to 250 or from 250 to 300. Again, it's a gradual thing, step by step.

Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Condor on January 31, 2007, 06:48:04 AM
High Protein is a joke.

You are right like a clock is right twice a day if it isn't working.  There may be some bbers that do not need 1.5 grams of protein per pound, but I would say this is the theory the majority of the pros subscribe to and it seems to be working fine for them.  If they are all taking in 1.5 grams/pound, and it's working, how is it a joke?  High protein is certainly more right than it is wrong, with exceptions.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 31, 2007, 06:58:18 AM
You're all mistaken.  Back then, lou most likely got all 150 grams from real food and not a waste of money in protein shakes.  It is known that the body assimilates real food protein better than liquid protein.

150 grams of protein is about 5 chicken breasts a day.  That is plenty of chicken for a day, mix in some rice and salad and you have five solid meals per day. 
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: MCWAY on January 31, 2007, 07:04:07 AM
You are right like a clock is right twice a day if it isn't working.  There may be some bbers that do not need 1.5 grams of protein per pound, but I would say this is the theory the majority of the pros subscribe to and it seems to be working fine for them.  If they are all taking in 1.5 grams/pound, and it's working, how is it a joke?  High protein is certainly more right than it is wrong, with exceptions.


The knee-jerk reaction that Adonis normally gives is "ALL DRUGS!!". The problem, however, is that he sings the praises of anabolics-using bodybuilders who consume what he perceives as low-protein diets. Yet, he berates those who consume high-protein diets.

A prime example is his Lou Ferrigno thread. He loved the idea of a 270-lb Ferrigno consuming 150-grams of protein (notwithstanding the fact that Ferrigno was retired, at that time). However, he quickly changed his tune, when someone pointed out that the "Incredible Hulk" star jacked his protein levels up to well over 300 grams when making his comeback in the early 90s.

As we all know, Ferrigno was bigger and more ripped than ever in the 90s (especially 1993, when he competed at the Olympia at a staggering 315 lbs). Of course, if it were actually the case that Ferrigno consumed 150 grams of protein per day (or less), during his comeback, let's just say that Adonis would be so giddy, he'd probably need a cigarette after hearing the news.

Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The Squadfather on January 31, 2007, 07:13:36 AM


The knee-jerk reaction that Adonis normally gives is "ALL DRUGS!!". The problem, however, is that he sings the praises of anabolics-using bodybuilders who consume what he perceives as low-protein diets. Yet, he berates those who consume high-protein diets.

A prime example is his Lou Ferrigno thread. He loved the idea of a 270-lb Ferrigno consuming 150-grams of protein (notwithstanding the fact that Ferrigno was retired, at that time). However, he quickly changed his tune, when someone pointed out that the "Incredible Hulk" star jacked his protein levels up to well over 300 grams when making his comeback in the early 90s.

As we all know, Ferrigno was bigger and more ripped than ever in the 90s (especially 1993, when he competed at the Olympia at a staggering 315 lbs). Of course, if it were actually the case that Ferrigno consumed 150 grams of protein per day (or less), during his comeback, let's just say that Adonis would be so giddy, he'd probably need a cigarette after hearing the news.


Ferrigno wasn't 315 in 93, i doubt he was any heavier than 280 onstage.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: the shadow on January 31, 2007, 07:14:51 AM
Ferrigno wasn't 315 in 93, i doubt he was any heavier than 280 onstage.
295lbs..i think
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The Squadfather on January 31, 2007, 07:15:35 AM
295lbs..i think
nope, not even close.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: MCWAY on January 31, 2007, 07:32:11 AM
Ferrigno wasn't 315 in 93, i doubt he was any heavier than 280 onstage.

Ferrigno was reported (and predicted) to be 275 at the 1975 Mr. Olympia. In Pumping Iron, Ferrigno leaves the stage (once Arnold was awarded the over-200-lb. class title) and, after weighing himself, he stated he was 268.

You cannot possibly believe that the difference between Ferrigno's physique in 1975 and 1993, is a mere 12 lbs, especially with the '93 version of Ferrigno appearing FAR more massive, dense, and ripped.

Heck, that wouldn't even wash in 1992, when Ferrigno competed in the Olympia at 295.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The Squadfather on January 31, 2007, 07:36:39 AM
Ferrigno was reported (and predicted) to be 275 at the 1975 Mr. Olympia. In Pumping Iron Ferrigno leaves the stage (once Arnold was awarded the over-200-lb. class title) and, after weighing himself, he stated he was 268.

You cannot possibly believe that the difference between Ferrigno's physique in 1975 and 1993, is a mere 12 lbs, especially with the '93 version of Ferrigno appearing FAR more massive, dense, and ripped.

Heck, that wouldn't even wash in 1992, when Ferrigno competed in the Olympia at 295.
hahahaha, ok "mcway" you probably also believe the fairy tale that Coleman was 294 onstage in 2004 also, right? ::)
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: the shadow on January 31, 2007, 07:38:19 AM
hahahaha, ok "mcway" you probably also believe the fairy tale that Coleman was 294 onstage in 2004 also, right? ::)
i do.actually he was 296lbs and this was all over the mags.ronnie was 297lbs this year.its all true
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: The Squadfather on January 31, 2007, 07:39:14 AM
i do.actually he was 296lbs and this was all over the mags.ronnie was 297lbs this year.its all true
hahahaha, ok Mahatma. ::)
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: MCWAY on January 31, 2007, 07:47:27 AM
hahahaha, ok "mcway" you probably also believe the fairy tale that Coleman was 294 onstage in 2004 also, right? ::)

Ferrigno stated that he was 268, weighing himself immediately after his competing in the '75 Olympia.

You claim that the '93 version of Ferrigno was 280.

My point was/is that it's unlikely that the difference between Lou's physique in '75 and '93 is a mere 12 lbs, especially since Ferrigno was not only MUCH bigger, overall, but far more shredded in the 90s than he was in the 70s.

Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: toolarge4u on January 31, 2007, 11:05:25 AM
nope, not even close.
he was 295 at the masters and 325 at the mr o...he weighs himself on the dvd
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Big N on January 31, 2007, 11:58:30 AM
Retarded posts seriously  ::)
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: Krusader on January 31, 2007, 03:19:30 PM
hahahaha, ok Mahatma. ::)


Epic missing the cue to stfu.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: SwingGuru on January 31, 2007, 10:19:58 PM
High Protein is a joke.
You are natural and your protein out is drastically reduced as compared to your protein in.  So the natural lifter doesn't need drastically high protein.

The anabolic user on the other hand is in a totally different situation.

Ferrigno looks like shit, who cares what he thinks.
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 01, 2007, 02:07:34 AM
Ferrigno was reported (and predicted) to be 275 at the 1975 Mr. Olympia. In Pumping Iron, Ferrigno leaves the stage (once Arnold was awarded the over-200-lb. class title) and, after weighing himself, he stated he was 268.

You cannot possibly believe that the difference between Ferrigno's physique in 1975 and 1993, is a mere 12 lbs, especially with the '93 version of Ferrigno appearing FAR more massive, dense, and ripped.

Heck, that wouldn't even wash in 1992, when Ferrigno competed in the Olympia at 295.

..what's more telling about how Sweet Lou weighed himself after getting beat down to third was how he looked at Ol' Matty, tells him his weight...as if THAT'S the reason why he lost.

Oh, Sweet Lou, did you ever learn?
Title: Re: Lou Ferrigno - ate 150 grams of protein at 270 pounds bodyweight!
Post by: MCWAY on February 01, 2007, 03:46:23 PM
..what's more telling about how Sweet Lou weighed himself after getting beat down to third was how he looked at Ol' Matty, tells him his weight...as if THAT'S the reason why he lost.

Oh, Sweet Lou, did you ever learn?

Getting beat by someone 68 pounds lighter can bruise the ego, just a bit.