The brain does not need carbs as Franco says, it needs a small amount of glucose to function. What a dumbass.did you ever bench press 520 or deadlift 735, Magnum PI?
did you ever bench press 520 or deadlift 735, Magnum PI?
The brain does not need carbs as Franco says, it needs a small amount of glucose to function. What a dumbass.Brain Energy Demand
Eat like a Strongman
Dr. Franco Colombu, former Mr. Everything and costar of ‘Pumping Iron,’ on what really works
~ By ANNETTE STARK ~
“Old people are trying to live longer, but young people want to win,” he explains. “Even if you tell them that they are taking something that is killing them. But … the minute you start taking these drugs, your workout stops. You will be depending on that instead of going to the gym. Once you switch your mind to depend on a secret like steroids, winning is over.”
Yep, using steroids puts fat on your stomach. Without steroids Franco would not have made it out of Sardinia. This guy really is as dumb as he looks.Well, I'm sure you know steroids can contribute to visceral fat as well. They can reduce insulin sensitivity. If your diet is crappy steroids can contribute to a big belly - lots of people have had "roid bellies".
Well, I'm sure you know steroids can contribute to visceral fat as well. They can reduce insulin sensitivity. If your diet is crappy steroids can contribute to a big belly - lots of people have had "roid bellies".
So, what the f**k is the point of this topic then?
So TA can keep trying to sell his "Adonis Principles", an idea he didn't come up with but seems to think he did. It's a good idea, tried and true sure. Good for bodybuilding? No. Good for healthy living? Maybe.
I've heard "a calorie is a calorie" ever since gradeschool science class, and most people know if you lessen your calorie intake you will lose weight. WEIGHT being fat, muscle, and fluids. During highschool wrestling, if someone needed to lose weight for the next meet, the coach would say "eat less, drink less water" then would run us into the ground. My point? I'm tired of hearing this same thing over and over. You didn't come up with the diet and you don't have the certification to advise other people on their diet. That being said, I think if people are coming to you, as you say, for advice on how to lose weight, this would be the way to do it. If they come up to you and want to lose JUST FAT, I'd turn them away to someone else. It's interesting though that TA says you can eat whatever you want (such as doghnuts and the like), since that is a bad idea in itself. If someone was put on a diet of only bad food, what do you think would be the result? Protein defficiency, vitamin defficiency, other ailments... the list is large.
Sorry, I started to ramble. Anyway, my point is that people need to start thinking for themselves and not what some over the hill ex bodybuilder thinks, since he's being a hypocrite. "Don't take steroids, but it's okay that I did"? What a joke. "I won contests because of steroids, but you won't." I can smell the bullshit eminating from my speakers.
So, what the f**k is the point of this topic then?
So TA can keep trying to sell his "Adonis Principles", an idea he didn't come up with but seems to think he did. It's a good idea, tried and true sure. Good for bodybuilding? No. Good for healthy living? Maybe.
I've heard "a calorie is a calorie" ever since gradeschool science class, and most people know if you lessen your calorie intake you will lose weight. WEIGHT being fat, muscle, and fluids. During highschool wrestling, if someone needed to lose weight for the next meet, the coach would say "eat less, drink less water" then would run us into the ground. My point? I'm tired of hearing this same thing over and over. You didn't come up with the diet and you don't have the certification to advise other people on their diet. That being said, I think if people are coming to you, as you say, for advice on how to lose weight, this would be the way to do it. If they come up to you and want to lose JUST FAT, I'd turn them away to someone else. It's interesting though that TA says you can eat whatever you want (such as doghnuts and the like), since that is a bad idea in itself. If someone was put on a diet of only bad food, what do you think would be the result? Protein defficiency, vitamin defficiency, other ailments... the list is large.
Sorry, I started to ramble. Anyway, my point is that people need to start thinking for themselves and not what some over the hill ex bodybuilder thinks, since he's being a hypocrite. "Don't take steroids, but it's okay that I did"? What a joke. "I won contests because of steroids, but you won't." I can smell the bullshit eminating from my speakers.
At the end of the day, the key to bodybuilding success is finding out what YOUR body needs to recover and grow and feed it that, accordingly. Some need more carbs; others need more protein; still others need more fat.
As the saying goes, "one man's poison is another man's meat". A high-carb diet may get trainer "A" in great shape, while turning trainer "B" into a porcine blimp. A high-protein diet, on the other hand, make keep trainer "A" looking like a twig, while trainer "B" ends up swole.
Why Adonis insists on such blubbering about high-protein diets is beyond me. No, they aren't for everyone. But, that doesn't mean they aren't for anyone. As one of my favorite magazine writers once said, "One type of diet and one type of training CANNOT and WILL NOT build a championship body".
And, how on Earth is he making his case by giving the current protein intake of a RETIRED bodybuilder, who hasn't competed in over TWENTY YEARS?
As to diet, he pretty much eats the same way he did when he was competing, except that he eats less (about 120 grams of protein per day).
Reread the article dummy.
He says he does the same diet as he did then.
Also, High Protein diets aren`t for anybody.
I can pull his book out right now.
LOLOL
Want me to scan what he recommends?
Its lower than 120 grams of protein.
I can pull his book out right now.
LOLOL
Want me to scan what he recommends?
Its lower than 120 grams of protein.
Eat like a Strongman
Dr. Franco Colombu, former Mr. Everything and costar of ‘Pumping Iron,’ on what really works
~ By ANNETTE STARK ~
Photo by Max S. Gerber
Franco Columbu, former Mr. Everything, says, “Hey, you, eat a bagel!”
ack when he was considered one of the World’s Strongest Men, renowned bodybuilder Franco Columbu would bench press 520 pounds, dead lift 750, and squat 655. He bent a bar across his face in one contest, carried a refrigerator on his back in another, power-lifted a car, and blew into a hot water bottle ’til it exploded like a party balloon, spraying water all over the audience.
He hasn’t carried a refrigerator in years, but his imprint on body culture is indelible. Today, at 54, Dr. Franco Columbu is a Los Angeles chiropractor, nutritionist, and trainer who has cowritten several health and fitness books, including Weight Training and Bodybuilding: A Complete Guide for Young Athletes (with Richard Tyler, D.C.); Franco Columbu’s Complete Book of Bodybuilding (with a foreword by Arnold Schwarzenegger); and The Bodybuilder’s Nutrition Book (with Lydia Fragomeni).
Most people will recognize Columbu as the muscleman posing next to Arnold Schwarzenegger in one of the greatest guy flicks ever, the 1977 documentary Pumping Iron. That body-fetish classic followed these guys through daily workout regimens that included five hours a day in the gym, ballet classes for posing techniques, and humongous mounds of ground beef and egg-and-tuna omelets.
A lot of cholesterol went into the making of that film. Even now, it’s not uncommon for serious weight-training programs to include as much as 200 grams of protein per day, and nearly all of it from animal sources. As a key figure in the culture since the ’70s – (he won Mr. World, Mr. Universe, and Mr. Olympia titles) – Columbu has seen the 200-gram protein diet, as well as every other extreme food fad, come and go.
Mostly, he avoided all of it. “It didn’t come out in Pumping Iron, but Arnold and I never went on those diets,” he says. “We used to eat things in front of people and theyay, ‘You eat that?’” He didn’t do the high carb, he didn’t do the low carb, and he didn’t do the “food combining” diet, either. “Remember that one? Don’t eat protein with carbohydrates. Food combining was so bad; I thought, these people are really out to lunch. How do you separate protein from string beans, pasta, potatoes, and rice? All these foods are half carbohydrate, half protein.”
Then there was the egg-white craze. “I had guests come to my house, bodybuilders, Frank Zane, Arnold, all the guys from Pumping Iron. Arnold didn’t care about egg whites. Arnold said, ‘Give me the protein and let’s go to the gym.’ So I would separate the eggs because the other guys wanted the whites. We ended up drinking the yolks.”
In the ’80s, a lot of bodybuilders switched to diets of water and meat. “Frank Zane and Lou Ferrigno, a lot of those guys believed in low carbohydrates. But we realized that some of these guys had very low energy as a result. So we went with our instincts, which was that you need protein for the body and the stored glycogen and stored fat in the body for energy. The brain needs carbohydrates.”
Columbu and Schwarzenegger were roommates during that time. Backstage before a competition, Schwarzenegger would announce, “Franco, it’s time for pizza.” They did it for the energy and also to psyche the other guys out.
Their grocery bills were huge. Columbu recalls, “Joe Weider paid us $80 a week each. We’d go to the market, and three days later all the money was gone. We’d work construction to make extra money.”
Schwarzenegger, Columbu reveals, never ate a fad diet. But he was jealous of Columbu’s even less-exclusive menu. “I could eat sweets, and this would make him angry. He’d say, ‘Oh, you. You can make muscle if you eat wood.’”
How to Eat Like a Strongman
Columbu received his degree from Cleveland Chiropractic College in 1978. He’s married and has a 10-year-old daughter, Maria. “Most of Maria’s friends are told, ‘Don’t eat this and don’t eat that.’ I say, ‘Eat the pasta.’ She eats everything. And she is in the best shape of all of her friends. What I’m saying is, to put a kid on a diet is devastating, in my opinion.”
The two-time Mr. Olympia has become a respected expert in nutrition, sports medicine, and kinesiology. He does special training programs for sports injuries, and the list of celebrities who have sought his bodybuilding advice includes Sylvester Stallone, whom Columbu made sign a contract promising that he wouldn’t even swallow a vitamin pill without seeking Columbu’s approval first.
But he doesn’t spend his whole life in the gym anymore. Columbu works out for maybe 20 minutes three times a week. He still sees Schwarzenegger all the time, but they gave up the constant training in favor of tennis. “I started playing tennis with Arnold in 1995, and we play on weekends. I mix up the sports … tennis, cycling. I like hiking.”
As to diet, he pretty much eats the same way he did when he was competing, except that he eats less (about 120 grams of protein per day). He recommends eating high-quality proteins. In order of importance, these are: eggs, fish, dairy, and meat (including poultry and pork).
Eggs are the highest quality protein, he points out, and still the most important to any fitness program. He notes that most dietary guides are wrong when they say eggs cause cholesterol problems. In fact, egg yolks contain enough of the fat emulsifier lecithin to neutralize cholesterol in other foods. Columbu cites a study: “In a group of 100 people, the first group ate eggs. The second group drank only milk. The third drank milk and ate eggs. And people thought, that third group is really going to have high cholesterol. But the eggs lowered the cholesterol, even in the group drinking milk.”
Much of Columbu’s information goes against conventional wisdom. “Let’s say you’re going to the gym at 3 p.m. Breakfast isn’t important. Bread and eggs is perfect. Lunch is when you eat a big meal with carbohydrates. Why? Because you can’t go to the gym without energy. But if you eat that for dinner and you don’t burn it, it will store as fat overnight.”
He stresses eating smaller meals and more frequently and that high-protein diets require extra Vitamin B6. Also, check the labels for sulfur dioxide, prevalent on fruits and vegetables. “You can’t digest it, and it bloats your stomach. People say they can’t eat grapes. It’s not true. It’s the sulfites.”
But the biggest tip for anyone who is looking for a flatter stomach and smaller waistline is that many folks on high-protein diets require hydrochloric acid and enzyme supplements. The body just doesn’t make enough on its own, especially past age 26.
On the Juice
It’s well known that they took steroids in the Pumping Iron days. Even Schwarzenegger has come clean about this. Fact is, they didn’t have the information back then about how dangerous the drugs are. But Columbu found that the negatives far outweighed the positives; you got big but you lost definition. And he notes that musclemen who kept using drugs eventually developed fat stomachs.
He sees those symptoms in today’s bodybuilders, some of whom are so massive they make the Pumping Iron bunch seem small. Columbu sees a lot of fat stomachs, which indicates to him that drugs are rampant. He tells young athletes and bodybuilders to stay off the juice, including Human Growth Hormone (HGH).
“Old people are trying to live longer, but young people want to win,” he explains. “Even if you tell them that they are taking something that is killing them. But … the minute you start taking these drugs, your workout stops. You will be depending on that instead of going to the gym. Once you switch your mind to depend on a secret like steroids, winning is over.”
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Adonis dude are you seriously comparing Franco Columbu and Arnold S. who were on stereoids which not only does stereoids give a FASTER metabolism but also lets them mess around with crazy diets compared to NATURAL athletes, dude ever thought about that???
...lack of high protien?
55g is 108% DV of protein. Anything over 100% is considered "high protein".
Good point. No one here has yet to define what thay mean by "high protein"
Still, the lack of high protein can not be denied.
I mean, people talk about high protein ALL THE TIME in the mags, on the boards everywhere.
If the juice let him eat so much... why wouldn't he just eat more.
I really need to get some of the drugs from the 70s. They must have been GREAT!
Think about it bro, this shit is common sense and this guy Adonis is confusing the shit outta people with these misconceptions between natural and stereoids. It all goes to genetics, body types, height, etc.
Dude Franco Culumbo was not more than 5'7, and the biggest ANYBODY got back then was like 220lbs until Ferrigno came around.
Am i missing something here? Somebody correct me, i'm not even sure what True Adonis considers "natural" anymore
Think about it bro, this shit is common sense and this guy Adonis is confusing the shit outta people with these misconceptions between natural and stereoids. It all goes to genetics, body types, height, etc.
Dude Franco Culumbo was not more than 5'7, and the biggest ANYBODY got back then was like 220lbs until Ferrigno came around.
Am i missing something here? Somebody correct me, i'm not even sure what True Adonis considers "natural" anymore
I have not a clue what you are talking about.
Anyone can use the Franco diet.
Steroids don`t give you a free pass.
Dude 1 + 1 c'mon on guy. Why even get into somebody like Franco Columbu's dieting skills when you know he was not a natural? Plain and simple let's hear it, and dont be a hypocrite. Did you or did you not knock down on every single enhanced BB @ any BB forum? But yet you go so far back into time with somebody like Franco Columbo who you know also built his career from stereoids and get amazed by his diet? But it doesnt bother you that he was on stereoids as well while using those type of diets
The bottom line is this:
There are many ways to prepare for a show...the one constant I've seen in my 28 years of training and competing...is high protein. You need X-amount of calories just to sustain the amount of muscl mass you have. As one gets bigger and puts on more mass over time...their protein rquirements also get higher. In order to get lean while retaining muscle, the only way to get those calories....is from protein.
What Adonis is preaching has already been tried...many times. This isnt innovative or even original. Dr. Mario DePasquale (and probably some before him) brought this "revolutionary" method to the WBF back in the 90's....with dismal results.
I am personal friends with a few of the guys that were on the WBF, and had to follow this diet made up of high fat foods, high sugar foods, etc....a caloie is a calorie. The physiques displayed were among some of the worst I've ever seen on a pro stage...these guys looked like my balls (with all due respect to my balls!)
The answer to this great debate is simple....IT'S IN THE MIDDLE.
LIKE ALL THINGS IN LIFE...THE ANSWER LIES RIGHT WHERE PEOPLE FAIL TO LOOK...IN THE MIDDLE.
Gez...lets see..should I take 500g. of protein or 100g.??
Should I do 30 sets per bodypart, or 4?
Should I cut my water out 4 days out or 2 hours before the show?
Should I train heavy all the time, or mix in some rep work?
etc.
etc.
EXTREMES are the worst thing a competitive BB can do...every action will produce an equal and greator re-action...usually not for the better.
It’s well known that they took steroids in the Pumping Iron days. Even Schwarzenegger has come clean about this. Fact is, they didn’t have the information back then about how dangerous the drugs are.
What information are you refering to Franco?
He sees those symptoms in today’s bodybuilders, some of whom are so massive they make the Pumping Iron bunch seem small. Columbu sees a lot of fat stomachs, which indicates to him that drugs are rampant. He tells young athletes and bodybuilders to stay off the juice, including Human Growth Hormone (HGH).
Yep, using steroids puts fat on your stomach. Without steroids Franco would not have made it out of Sardinia. This guy really is as dumb as he looks.
LOL @ the sucking of Bob's dick "Tu Holmes", you were pretty quick to question me.
LOL @ the sucking of Bob's dick "Tu Holmes", you were pretty quick to question me.
HEY!! No one sucks the dick of chick except Mrs. Chick...dont be sick, ya prick! ;D
aahahaha, you know what I mean. Kiss your ass, etc.
Anyway, tu holmes, nevermind.
The bottom line is this:
There are many ways to prepare for a show...the one constant I've seen in my 28 years of training and competing...is high protein. You need X-amount of calories just to sustain the amount of muscl mass you have. As one gets bigger and puts on more mass over time...their protein rquirements also get higher. In order to get lean while retaining muscle, the only way to get those calories....is from protein.
What Adonis is preaching has already been tried...many times. This isnt innovative or even original. Dr. Mario DePasquale (and probably some before him) brought this "revolutionary" method to the WBF back in the 90's....with dismal results.
I am personal friends with a few of the guys that were on the WBF, and had to follow this diet made up of high fat foods, high sugar foods, etc....a caloie is a calorie. The physiques displayed were among some of the worst I've ever seen on a pro stage...these guys looked like my balls (with all due respect to my balls!)
The answer to this great debate is simple....IT'S IN THE MIDDLE.
LIKE ALL THINGS IN LIFE...THE ANSWER LIES RIGHT WHERE PEOPLE FAIL TO LOOK...IN THE MIDDLE.
Gez...lets see..should I take 500g. of protein or 100g.??
Should I do 30 sets per bodypart, or 4?
Should I cut my water out 4 days out or 2 hours before the show?
Should I train heavy all the time, or mix in some rep work?
etc.
etc.
EXTREMES are the worst thing a competitive BB can do...every action will produce an equal and greator re-action...usually not for the better.
It's been a common trend in the 28 years i've been doing it...and every pro I know over that time.
What makes your methods any different than DePasquales?
HEY!! No one kisses my ass except my lass...dont be crass ya large mouth bass! ;D
Chic really about time dude you chipped in here. I just feel bad for the newbs @ getbig to get mislead by this type of confusion true adonis is blurring around for either attention or "revolutionary dieting principles" that either kills your muscles or barely to maintain it.
http://www.ivannikolov.com/nutrition/index.html
Check that link out, this dude has an awesome physique from Bulgaria if i'm not misstaken, he's a natural if it matters. A very SIMPLE approach to dieting just like most people who do it right!
So what you're saying is that because the masses do it, then it must be the right thing...
Hmm... Remember when the masses thought the world was flat?
The problem is that everyone wants to make a science project out of getting ready for a show....
If I had a dime for every question I've had over the years reguarding extremes in bodybuilding...well....I'd have a shitload of dimes!
The more complicated a program becomes...the more shit there is to try and figure out where it went wrong...if the K.I.S.S. methodology applies to anything...it should be contest prep.
Easy formula...if I only have 4 things to concentrate on...I only have 4 things to look at in the event I come in off.
If you have 20 things you're juggling...where the f**k do you look? Could be number 6 was off, could have been 6,7,14 and 20, etc. etc......tough to fix something when you dont know what to fix.
Making things more EFFICIENT is the key...not making them more complicated.
So what you're saying is that because the masses do it, then it must be the right thing...
Hmm... Remember when the masses thought the world was flat?
It's been a common trend in the 28 years i've been doing it...and every pro I know over that time.Well, it works like this. I have come up with a formula that determines down to the exact limit of how much heat I release in a closed system. I have come up with this formula based solely on each individuals performance so Anyone is capable of doing this.
What makes your methods any different than DePasquales?
Yeah...about the same time they thought they could eat anything they wanted to and look good! ;D
Believe me, bro...If bodybuilders thought they could eat bullshit all day long AND get in contest shape...they would have figured it out yeeeeeeeears ago....Some have. Most haven`t.
Well, it works like this. I have come up with a formula that determines down to the exact limit of how much heat I release in a closed system. I have come up with this formula based solely on each individuals performance so Anyone is capable of doing this.
Here is a before and after. I haver ALWAYS been a hard trainer and have used conventional methods in the past regarding diet. I have gotten lean on the typical bodybuilder diet, but I also got WEAKER,more tired,felt awful and not to mention it is inconvenient,not economical or practical.
I got fat eating Chicken Breast and Oatmeal and eating clean, I got Ripped eating, Ice Cream and Krispy Kreme.
The idea of eating 700 lbs of meat(350 grams of protein a day for a year) to build about 48 ounces of muscle(about the lifetime natural limit`s average muscle building potential) is just an inefficient waste of heat energy. The body is an effecient processor and science dictates that eating in this manner is futile and pointless. This being based on the conversion of energy. It simply makes zero sense to put in 700 lbs of potential energy to convert into 48 ounces of a different form of stored potential energy. It does not add up!
Matter can neither be created nor destroyed so as you can see, most of this 700 lbs is just wasted potential energy.
Now my equation can be utilized by anyone to be whatever Bodyfat their heart desires at any given time. This means anyone can also hold whatever conditioning they want indefinitely since they know their heat values. They can adjust accordingly at any moment up or down to manipulate fat storage.....You can essentially pick a single date on the calendar and to the DAY, determine EXACTLY what bodyfat you will be.
I also do no cardio and lift about 3 or 4 days a week.
The best part is, you do this by eating whatever your heart desires. I like Burger King,Krispy Kreme,Cake and Cookies and Pizza. So that is what I eat. I also eat off the Food Network. And my favorite, Ice Cream! Everyday! hahah MY girlfriend is one hell of a cook and we like to pick up specials from the fish market as well. The choices are limitless....Whatever you want.
Well, it works like this. I have come up with a formula that determines down to the exact limit of how much heat I release in a closed system. I have come up with this formula based solely on each individuals performance so Anyone is capable of doing this.
Here is a before and after. I haver ALWAYS been a hard trainer and have used conventional methods in the past regarding diet. I have gotten lean on the typical bodybuilder diet, but I also got WEAKER,more tired,felt awful and not to mention it is inconvenient,not economical or practical.
I got fat eating Chicken Breast and Oatmeal and eating clean, I got Ripped eating, Ice Cream and Krispy Kreme.
The idea of eating 700 lbs of meat(350 grams of protein a day for a year) to build about 48 ounces of muscle(about the lifetime natural limit`s average muscle building potential) is just an inefficient waste of heat energy. The body is an effecient processor and science dictates that eating in this manner is futile and pointless. This being based on the conversion of energy. It simply makes zero sense to put in 700 lbs of potential energy to convert into 48 ounces of a different form of stored potential energy. It does not add up!
Matter can neither be created nor destroyed so as you can see, most of this 700 lbs is just wasted potential energy.
Now my equation can be utilized by anyone to be whatever Bodyfat their heart desires at any given time. This means anyone can also hold whatever conditioning they want indefinitely since they know their heat values. They can adjust accordingly at any moment up or down to manipulate fat storage.....You can essentially pick a single date on the calendar and to the DAY, determine EXACTLY what bodyfat you will be.
I also do no cardio and lift about 3 or 4 days a week.
The best part is, you do this by eating whatever your heart desires. I like Burger King,Krispy Kreme,Cake and Cookies and Pizza. So that is what I eat. I also eat off the Food Network. And my favorite, Ice Cream! Everyday! hahah MY girlfriend is one hell of a cook and we like to pick up specials from the fish market as well. The choices are limitless....Whatever you want.
Some have. Most haven`t.
Let us even use you as an example.
You follow the GI index when in a caloric defecit. You have never stopped to realize that it is pointless to do so as if you are burning everything you ingest, you safely remove Insulin Response from the equation in its entirety.
Couple that, with the fact that the American Diabetic Association laughs at the GI index and does not accept it.
Take that for what it is worth my friend.
What makes your methods any different than DePasquales?His method was NOT in any way "a calorie is a calorie"!!! It was a ketogenic diet for 5 days, with a 2 day carb load. Then when the athlete adjusted to the diet it was no carbs except around training sessions. Very similar to Dan Duchaine's Body Opus diet or other Cyclical Ketogenic diets.
Ta in all seriousness then, if you have such a plan NO ONE can comment on it, believe in it, or follow it!!!!! If we don't know how it is applied. So, if you never reveil it how can we possibley take you seriously.
That is what I am doing with the "Case Studies".
here and at MD.
I have many, many more coming.
One of a fellow that is easily 60-70 percent bodyfat.
Just watch, enjoy and learn.
I am not trying to hurt anyone. I just want to provide an opimum alternative to what people are used to. I also want to dispel the lies and myths that the "Industry" has thrust upon them for no good reason other than their own financial gain.
I know that you are not trying to hurt anyone and I commend you on your eagerness to learn and try something new. Hell, I'm probabley the most open minded person here. The thing is that you are debating people on here who have been doing things a certain way for years and having great success. Thru the years I have gotten pretty good at getting people into contest shape, but that doesn't mean that I am not looking for ways to improve my methods. Now at the same time I am not all of the sudden going to change things 180 degrees either. Small changes based on the principles that have worked best for me based on years of research, hundreds of hours reading and dozens if not hundreds of people I have successfully hepled. You can't argue a point when you will not reveil what you are doing with these people. If it works and you know it then why the reseach studies?
People need to see it firsthand.
I want to show concrete results. Most people are so steeped in lies and guided by myth, they overlook truth.
I will share everything for all, in real time with "Case Studies".
Fair enough, I will save all comments then for that time.
No, I didn't "miss" your formula. I've never seen you post it, which leads me to believe it doesn't exist.
Believe me, bro...If bodybuilders thought they could eat bullshit all day long AND get in contest shape...they would have figured it out yeeeeeeeears ago....tHANK'S BOB, WTF IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE WHO TRIES TO LOOK GOOD AND BODYBUILD?...HOW MANY TIMES DO U HAVE TO WRECK YOUR BODY FROM HEAVY WEIGHTS TO REALISE THAT BENCHING FLAT IS NOT THE BEST IDEEA FOR PECS?..GO ASK ANY GOOD POWERLIFTER THAT BENCHES...IT'S ALL TRICEPS AND SHOULDER...MAYBE A FEW INCHES WHERE THE CHEST COMES IN. EATING AND STEROIDS GO THE SAME WAY...BALANCE AND WHAT'S RIGHT FOR U. STIMULATE...DON'T DESTROY.I HAD TO VENT. :)
People need to see it firsthand.
I want to show concrete results. Most people are so steeped in lies and guided by myth, they overlook truth.
I will share everything for all, in real time with "Case Studies".
Well, it works like this. I have come up with a formula that determines down to the exact limit of how much heat I release in a closed system. I have come up with this formula based solely on each individuals performance so Anyone is capable of doing this.
Here is a before and after. I haver ALWAYS been a hard trainer and have used conventional methods in the past regarding diet. I have gotten lean on the typical bodybuilder diet, but I also got WEAKER,more tired,felt awful and not to mention it is inconvenient,not economical or practical.
I got fat eating Chicken Breast and Oatmeal and eating clean, I got Ripped eating, Ice Cream and Krispy Kreme.
The idea of eating 700 lbs of meat(350 grams of protein a day for a year) to build about 48 ounces of muscle(about the lifetime natural limit`s average muscle building potential) is just an inefficient waste of heat energy. The body is an effecient processor and science dictates that eating in this manner is futile and pointless. This being based on the conversion of energy. It simply makes zero sense to put in 700 lbs of potential energy to convert into 48 ounces of a different form of stored potential energy. It does not add up!
Matter can neither be created nor destroyed so as you can see, most of this 700 lbs is just wasted potential energy.
Now my equation can be utilized by anyone to be whatever Bodyfat their heart desires at any given time. This means anyone can also hold whatever conditioning they want indefinitely since they know their heat values. They can adjust accordingly at any moment up or down to manipulate fat storage.....You can essentially pick a single date on the calendar and to the DAY, determine EXACTLY what bodyfat you will be.
I also do no cardio and lift about 3 or 4 days a week.
The best part is, you do this by eating whatever your heart desires. I like Burger King,Krispy Kreme,Cake and Cookies and Pizza. So that is what I eat. I also eat off the Food Network. And my favorite, Ice Cream! Everyday! hahah MY girlfriend is one hell of a cook and we like to pick up specials from the fish market as well. The choices are limitless....Whatever you want.
Adonis, listen you don't have principles."the adonis principles" wtf is that??? Who are you to claim you have principles? They mean shit to nobody. I should make the lionPrinciples and start telling everyone I invented them. You have zero credibility with anybody. The fact that you keep on this low protein vs ice cream and pizza even further proves why no one should listen to you. You have to have some credibility to make statements like this and all your doing is making yourself look even worse by claiming this unheard of shit. Listen to chick, he has proven himself as a bodybuilder so therefore he has credibility. You have nothing. ATTENTION all get biggers........My lionprinciples state that if you eat high protein and workout and get good sleep you will make gains. Also eat chips and cake to even further your muscularity...I just invented both of those...I am a genius....I am just like adonis....who is with me?????
The bottom line is this:
There are many ways to prepare for a show...the one constant I've seen in my 28 years of training and competing...is high protein. You need X-amount of calories just to sustain the amount of muscl mass you have. As one gets bigger and puts on more mass over time...their protein rquirements also get higher. In order to get lean while retaining muscle, the only way to get those calories....is from protein.
What Adonis is preaching has already been tried...many times. This isnt innovative or even original. Dr. Mario DePasquale (and probably some before him) brought this "revolutionary" method to the WBF back in the 90's....with dismal results.
I am personal friends with a few of the guys that were on the WBF, and had to follow this diet made up of high fat foods, high sugar foods, etc....a caloie is a calorie. The physiques displayed were among some of the worst I've ever seen on a pro stage...these guys looked like my balls (with all due respect to my balls!)
The answer to this great debate is simple....IT'S IN THE MIDDLE.
LIKE ALL THINGS IN LIFE...THE ANSWER LIES RIGHT WHERE PEOPLE FAIL TO LOOK...IN THE MIDDLE.
Gez...lets see..should I take 500g. of protein or 100g.??
Should I do 30 sets per bodypart, or 4?
Should I cut my water out 4 days out or 2 hours before the show?
Should I train heavy all the time, or mix in some rep work?
etc.
etc.
EXTREMES are the worst thing a competitive BB can do...every action will produce an equal and greator re-action...usually not for the better.
Look who's talking.
You have made a blanket statement, regarding the effectiveness of high-protein diets as it relates to building mass. Yet, despite case after case after case of such diets working for numerous trainers, you continue your anti-high-protein tirade.
A prime example of such is your flip-flopping, on your thread about Lou Ferrigno.
The simple fact is this: If someone was consuming 200 grams of protein per day yet struggled to gain mass, only to have his gains pick up by consuming 250-300 grams of protein per day, the increase of protein (be it solid food or protein shakes) is effective for that guy, period.
That's been the case for lots of people, and it's safe to say that their muscles won't be falling off anytime soon, in spite of your "discovery".
Others may indeed not need as much protein, that's fine. But, those examples certainly do not dictate or warrant your claim of "high protein is a lie".
I've never been in a caloric deficiet when dieting for a show..my calories go up significantly. Calories from Protien replace calories from carbs...it's that simple.
I haven`t seen one case of that happening.
Besides, how do you attribute a gain due to raising protein 50 grams?