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Title: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 30, 2007, 07:55:40 PM
alright..since u know (i hope) a lot about cars..

i wanna buy the audi TT conv quatro....

BUT..everyone keeps telling me its a shit engine....hell my brother told me its a ford ..some shit ford engine..i dont know a lot about cars..

watcha think?

i'm gonna get me a new car come june...

any feedback on the audi TT is apreciated..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Lee_a_priest on January 30, 2007, 08:51:25 PM
YES IT LLOKS NICE BUT I WOULDNT BUY IT...GO SEE IF YOU CAN RENT ONE FIRST.....BUT FOR THE MONEY THERE ARE BETTER ONES OUT THERE.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: youandme on January 30, 2007, 09:21:50 PM
Audi a ford ??? German engineering at it's best, they got nazi ties bro they along with mercedes invented racing as we know it.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Petrucci on January 31, 2007, 05:22:15 AM
Toxic, i dont know about the prices around there in USA, but about the car i just can say it worth the money invested...Its a GREAT car and i just wish someday i would have money to have a car like that...
Im a little suspect, because here in brazil 98% at least of the population love Audis  ;)
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 07:42:02 AM
the person that works the front desk at my school is a cute brazalian girl!

she always says "ciao" when i leave!  :D

see as Lee said..it looks damn good but he wouldn't buy it...but what other options lee..throw some names around so i can look at some cars online....this isn't an immediate thing..i'm thinking by june..

by brother threw some names out but most em cars in that price range everyones grandma and his kiddies have....i just wanted something unique in that price range..



(anyhow onlyme  mercedes got nazi ties mang...they were even involved in the production of the nazi fying disks ...which for the most part were also described as foofighters  ;)  you do know what our space shuttle is just the german doodlebug modified?  you also know who the titan rocket ws named after right? titan ws a prominent nazi!  ;)  )


(just google "secret space" for proof..the vid shows the documents)
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: youandme on January 31, 2007, 08:39:04 AM
yeah I know we talked about that few days ago, if it were not for hitler jack parsons and the other dudes would not have taken such a intrest in that stuff. But audis are a good car, I've had a few A4 turbos myself. I am looking to get a S4 soon. Just take the TT for a test drive it is incredibly tight and feels great when you drive it.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 09:19:02 AM
. Just take the TT for a test drive it is incredibly tight and feels great when you drive it.

thanx for the info man!

i've always been a ...the guy with the crappy car..civics.lol..and i always used the extra cash to party and constantly eat out ...i remember i'd pick a different spot to dine in and go out to try out their steaks..pretty much every night...sometimes by myself..

i'm not partying anymore and seriously back in training..soo i'm saving quite a bit of $...so why not!  :)
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on January 31, 2007, 09:39:51 AM
alright..since u know (i hope) a lot about cars..

i wanna buy the audi TT conv quatro....

BUT..everyone keeps telling me its a shit engine....hell my brother told me its a ford ..some shit ford engine..i dont know a lot about cars..

watcha think?

i'm gonna get me a new car come june...

any feedback on the audi TT is apreciated..

Topgear tested it, said it was good car, now it is actually a descent sports car, the original TT (pre 2007) was poseur sports car. Your bro don't know much about cars. Ford it ain't, but the Euro fords have better specs and engines than Am ones (better regs and the Euros have higher standards the Am)

YES IT LLOKS NICE BUT I WOULDNT BUY IT...GO SEE IF YOU CAN RENT ONE FIRST.....BUT FOR THE MONEY THERE ARE BETTER ONES OUT THERE.

For the Money there are very few luxury AWD cars better than Audi. Audi is, if not the best, the best when it comes to AWD luxury vehicles. They were banned back in the 90's in racing because Mercedes and BMW complained that it was unfair that Audi used its Quattro AWD system.

You can get a Suby or a Evo with AWD and beat anything that  Lee has that is street legal, but the the interiors are crappy, and you see that the car is really based on a econobox. That is if you want AWD and cheap fun. AND the emphasis will be on fun and cheap.

Read the mag and site for review on the Audi TT, plus test drive it, and cross shop it with the Z4 coupe, or the Z4 M coupe.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 09:49:25 AM
thanx a lot for the info Parker! appreciate it!  :)

the audi it is :)..i prefer my luxury over speed and dont really care that much about going fast...i drive fast as it is..but thats me..i'm not a very patient person..as for racing..i could care less..

i dont know SHIT about cars...soo i figured when my brother ws telling me stuff he knew his shit.. guess not..


i'll test drive it when i'm close to buying it..around late june..

Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: AVBG on January 31, 2007, 10:01:14 AM
Toxie, you cant go wrong with a german engineered/built car.. I think Lee is biased towards american muscle cars.. Get the Audi and you'll be happy. Chicks dig German cars  ;)
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Lee_a_priest on January 31, 2007, 10:06:41 AM
Toxie, you cant go wrong with a german engineered/built car.. I think Lee is biased towards american muscle cars.. Get the Audi and you'll be happy. Chicks dig German cars  ;)

NO I LOVED THE AUDI IN THE TRANSPORTER 2
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Jr. Yates on January 31, 2007, 11:08:50 AM
NO I LOVED THE AUDI IN THE TRANSPORTER 2
That was a good show. I liked number 1 better.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 11:18:39 AM
NO I LOVED THE AUDI IN THE TRANSPORTER 2



i'm gonna stick to getting the TT AWD conv.....i like fast horses and smooth cars.. :)





ya gotta watch that movie crank...!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/crank/large.html

you should work to get yourself a part in some movie..like..who ws that...crap..that bbing chick in that movie "the cell"  ..dammit..who ws it..i forget..laura cravelle?..maybe..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 11:19:32 AM
Toxie, you cant go wrong with a german engineered/built car.. I think Lee is biased towards american muscle cars.. Get the Audi and you'll be happy. Chicks dig German cars  ;)

the only reason i ws doubting the TT ws cause my idiot brother told me its gotta a ford engine in it..  :-\ and its not worth the $
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Petrucci on January 31, 2007, 01:15:16 PM
like someone already said, Germans are BORN to make engines and mechanical stuff.

one of the best features of any Audi its exactly the engine...you cant go wrong with that  (and you can see BMW and Mercedez for other references  ;D )
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: AVBG on January 31, 2007, 01:15:24 PM
the only reason i ws doubting the TT ws cause my idiot brother told me its gotta a ford engine in it..  :-\ and its not worth the $

Your brother has no idea.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 01:18:59 PM
Your brother has no idea.

since we moved to the US he has totalled 4 cars and 1 minivan  :-\..soo apparently not lol



Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on January 31, 2007, 01:31:00 PM
like someone already said, Germans are BORN to make engines and mechanical stuff.

Well, even if it did have a Ford engine, that car would still be gold. Euros get better Ford's and Gm's than the US due to higher standards, and US worker unions making sure that developing a car cost more than in Europe. A friend a while back who was stationed in Germany told me that the Fords in Germany were built like the BMW's over here in the States.

Toxie, the Audi interior is nice, but if you want a coupe, just wait for the Audi A5, or get a Audi RS4 (4 door), you'll have the money, and you can thakn me later is you do get the RS4 ;). Try Sprint Blue as a color if you go on Audi website.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 02:04:06 PM
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just wait for the Audi A5,

is that like not out yet?


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later is you do get the RS4

are these types of TTs?  you r just confusing me now..how much more will they cost?

i'm planning to pay half the car off in cash...up front..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on January 31, 2007, 03:01:46 PM
is that like not out yet?


are these types of TTs?  you r just confusing me now..how much more will they cost?

i'm planning to pay half the car off in cash...up front..

The Audi A5 is the coupe version of the A4 (Audi's sedan that competes with the BMW 3 series, Mercedes C class, and Lexus IS series--these are known as entry level luxury cars, but they have better handling characteristics than their bigger and heavier bros)

The A5 is not out yet and it might been shown at the Geneva Autoshow.

The RS4 is the high performance version of the A4 sedan. It has a 4.2 liter V8, putting out 420 HP, Quattro AWD, and does 0-60 in 4.2 secs (thanks in part to it's AWD system).

Man, the asking price is around 65k+ ( I guess)

But if you wanted a sporty coupe, Audi is the way to go or the BMW Z4 coupe. But you could pick up a used 2002-2003  BMW M3 for the price of a Audi TT. Oh, sorry, i didn't mean to confuse on this.  :-[
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 03:25:38 PM
Audi TT quatro convertable it is >:( ..thats right around the 50 range..

with some help from dad i could pay 20 off right off the bat...
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on January 31, 2007, 03:27:28 PM
Audi TT quatro convertable it is >:( ..thats right around the 50 range..

with some help from dad i could pay 20 off right off the bat...

Good, happy motorin' to ya!
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Drij on January 31, 2007, 05:01:51 PM
go German but why an Audi?
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 05:27:28 PM
go German but why an Audi?

cause i like the TT shape!

it says..i'm sophisticated...and anti bling!

its demure...it says ..i like the finer things..without showing off...

or to me it does..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Drij on January 31, 2007, 05:31:18 PM
cause i like the TT shape!

it says..i'm sophisticated...and anti bling!

its demure...it says ..i like the finer things..without showing off...

or to me it does..

I've always driven Mercedes and BMW so I'm just curious why you like Audi.



Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 05:38:13 PM
I've always driven Mercedes and BMW so I'm just curious why you like Audi.




i just dont wanna spend the kinda $ a merc or BMW would cost..a nice one anyways...and i doubt dad would shell out for it...

Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: 250Ben250 on January 31, 2007, 06:59:16 PM







ya gotta watch that movie crank...!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/crank/large.html

you should work to get yourself a part in some movie..like..who ws that...crap..that bbing chick in that movie "the cell"  ..dammit..who ws it..i forget..laura cravelle?..maybe..

1 2nd the Crank recommendation, that movie was great, made we want to try some pre-workout epinephrine for the fun of it  ;D

The BB girl is The Cell was Kim Chevesky I think, before she stopped the BB comps and went "Ms. fitness"

My boss has an S4 that's 2 years old, amazing car. If you don't mind used they're probably worth looking into, especially compared to a TT...
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 08:05:33 PM
ok what the f**k is a S4  ???


i love that movie..there is a foriegn movie out right now with a similar concept...i forget the name.

remember folks..there aint a horse alive i couldn't make friends with in a day and ride..BUT i know very little of cars..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2007, 04:43:38 AM
ok what the f**k is a S4  ???

The S4 is the mid trim level (Sport) of the A4 sedan. There is the base A4 with FWD and a 4 cylinder, then the V6 A4 with Qauttro (AWD), then the S4, then the RS4 (the top of the line). I'll post pics later on, if you want them.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 01, 2007, 10:15:26 AM
The S4 is the mid trim level (Sport) of the A4 sedan. There is the base A4 with FWD and a 4 cylinder, then the V6 A4 with Qauttro (AWD), then the S4, then the RS4 (the top of the line). I'll post pics later on, if you want them.

you know wayy 2 much about cars...

i honestly dont get the fascination..  ???
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2007, 11:51:31 AM
you know wayy 2 much about cars...

i honestly dont get the fascination..  ???

I like 'em. My dad was into cars, you know the, "I had a 1957 Olds with 3 dueces( carbeurators)"

Back in 1983 I helped my aunt pic out a car ( I was 6 yrs old)

Now its kinda lika brotherhood, cars are to me like a Junebug is to those who like to drink, or coke to those who like to party. I'm not into that Fast and Furious shit, I like the aesthetics of car design, and engine
technology.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 01, 2007, 11:53:21 AM
you HAD to mention coke didn't ya..lol..


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I'm not into that Fast and Furious shit, I like the aesthetics of car design, and engine
technology.

good..i dislike those type of folks..

do you go to the big bike festival in OC?  i remember it ws a pain in the ass for me when i used to live and work there..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2007, 01:31:51 PM
you HAD to mention coke didn't ya..lol..


good..i dislike those type of folks..

do you go to the big bike festival in OC?  i remember it ws a pain in the ass for me when i used to live and work there..

Nope, since I got folks on the Eastern shore, I can't stand going to OC. Going there is boring to me. My dad used to take us to Chincoteague (sp) Island for summer vacation every year.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 01, 2007, 01:35:34 PM
Nope, since I got folks on the Eastern shore, I can't stand going to OC.

ahh man..as long as ya stay above 60th street (route 90) its all gravy ...

plus fagers island is soo much fun to go 2..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Bluto on February 02, 2007, 06:55:56 AM
Most of the time you talk about how rich you are, next you don't wanna spend money on a car? What gives?

Just take a look at MTV cribs and buy a few of them cars the celebrities ride. Maybe one car for each day of the week. You're rich remember.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 02, 2007, 07:08:35 AM
Most of the time you talk about how rich you are,

i'm getting a friggin TT...


and i happen to end up mentioning that cause people like bezerkfury and nord follow me around telling me i dont work...i work less than part time....for that exact reason...what am i supposes to do..sit there n take it?..fuck no..


as for MTV cribs..if i ever go even slightly bling..shoot me..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Option D on February 02, 2007, 07:50:03 AM
thanx for the info man!

i've always been a ...the guy with the crappy car..civics.lol..and i always used the extra cash to party and constantly eat out ...i remember i'd pick a different spot to dine in and go out to try out their steaks..pretty much every night...sometimes by myself..

i'm not partying anymore and seriously back in training..soo i'm saving quite a bit of $...so why not!  :)

Sheeeeit i do that still. I dont have a whole lot of money because i cant work full time because of school. And i got major bills. But i still go out and eat steak 2 times per week.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 02, 2007, 10:34:47 AM
. But i still go out and eat steak 2 times per week.

good on ya mate! ...i'd take a good book..or a muscle mag.. and sit there drinking my wine and slowly eating my food ..without having to entertain..its soothing..
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Option D on February 02, 2007, 11:34:49 AM
good on ya mate! ...i'd take a good book..or a muscle mag.. and sit there drinking my wine and slowly eating my food ..without having to entertain..its soothing..
I like the look on all the single ladies faces, waitress, hostess. they wonder what my deal is and why im eating alone. They usually want to know if im single or had a fight with my girlfriend  or something like that.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 03, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
I like the look on all the single ladies faces, waitress, hostess. they wonder what my deal is and why im eating alone. They usually want to know if im single or had a fight with my girlfriend  or something like that.

i dont get those looks  :(

i'm usually up in the clouds...
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Option D on February 03, 2007, 04:57:19 PM
you get them but you just dont notice them
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: KevinP85 on February 04, 2007, 03:31:00 AM
like someone already said, Germans are BORN to make engines and mechanical stuff.

one of the best features of any Audi its exactly the engine...you cant go wrong with that  (and you can see BMW and Mercedez for other references  ;D )


Somewhat true, but German cars suck in the electrical department.

Personally, I would never go Audi. Good interiors, quality, but piss poor reliability. Plus it's a damn Volkswagen ;D Go BMW if you are looking for the "overall package."

Second of all before you even decide on a vehicle, ask yourself what are you looking for; reliability, gas mileage, looks, handling, sports, luxury, etc... then decide.

My take is this, reliability will always be japanese, engineering-german, and fast, cheap and lots of torque american.

German cars are a bit overrated in my opinion atleast the lower lines are excluding M, AMG, and S or RS. That whole marketing slogan "german engineering," ::) gets people all the time. Like Lee said you could go for a better equipped car for far less. Plus, remember the maintainance on a german cars is bitch unless you are willing to spend boatloads of cash or if the car is under warranty.

BMW M> Mercedes AMG> Audi S/RS
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: KevinP85 on February 04, 2007, 03:46:25 AM
The S4 is the mid trim level (Sport) of the A4 sedan. There is the base A4 with FWD and a 4 cylinder, then the V6 A4 with Qauttro (AWD), then the S4, then the RS4 (the top of the line). I'll post pics later on, if you want them.


I've driven the RS4, my friend got one when it first came out and I got to admit it's pretty sweet. The high reving V8 is music to your ears. You don't need music with the exhaust note of the RS. To my surpise the cars' power band and torque delivery was perfectly matched. It felt fast in any gears. Handled great as well for heavy car. Aside from all the performance the interior is one of the best I've seen in the industry. Quality was top notch as usual and the silk napa leather was comfortable. The only compliant was that the US didn't use the same flat-style Euro steering wheel probably because of emissions, but who knows. US owners always gets shafted anyways.

All in all it was a great car, but personally I am a BMW M3 owner so I'm a bit baised. I'll have to wait and see how the RS4 compares to the new E92 M3 :)
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2007, 03:54:39 AM

Somewhat true, but German cars suck in the electrical department.

Personally, I would never go Audi. Good interiors, quality, but piss poor reliability. Plus it's a damn Volkswagen ;D



You see that is where it gets sticky, When Audi was part of Auto Union, which comprised of 4 car companies (Wanderer, DKW, Audi, and Horch), Audi was the car company that made upmarket FWD cars. And that was back in the 30's-40's. When Auto Union wa broken up all that was left was Audi

When Volkswagen pick up Audi it had Audi share some of platforms, to save money, like a like of car companies do. Which is one of the reasons Audis are either front wheel drive or AWD (Qauttro)

In many instances they don't share platforms. For instance, Volkswagen does have a car based on the Audi A4, nor does it have a RS model. There are no v8 models, save for the dismally selling Phateon, which is a VW vesrion of the Audi A8, of whci VW has never shared a platform with
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2007, 04:01:08 AM
All in all it was a great car, but personally I am a BMW M3 owner so I'm a bit baised. I'll have to wait and see how the RS4 compares to the new E92 M3 :)

Definitely waiting on the E92 M3. For two reasons. One, to see how it will stack up against the RS4 and the Lexus IS-F (I have a IS300). And Two, so I can see how much the prices will drop on the E46 M3. I would like to get a 2003 E46 M3 in Laguna Seca Blue (the last year they had that color) or Phoenix Yellow.
 
What do you think of the IS-F, and do think that hte new M3 will beat the RS4's 0-60 time of 4.2 secs? It's gonna be hard to do, considering the fact that the Audi is AWD, and the M3 is RWD.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 04, 2007, 10:11:42 AM
trying to follow that gave me a headache  >:(
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2007, 10:23:52 AM
trying to follow that gave me a headache  >:(

Its like the techy speak that you computer guys talk in. E92 is the "internal" or platform name that the factory gives. Each genreation of car has it's own platform name. So the year 2000-2004 BMW three series chasis number is E46, hence the E46 M3. The 1992-1999 BMW 3series is called the E36 platform. Get it?

Now, the M3 is the high performance version of  the BMW 3 series.

The IS-F is the brand new high performance version of the Lexus IS350 series. This car is "suppose" to be Lexus answer to Audi's RS4 sedan and to the upcoming Bmw's E92 M3.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: KevinP85 on February 04, 2007, 11:56:34 PM
Definitely waiting on the E92 M3. For two reasons. One, to see how it will stack up against the RS4 and the Lexus IS-F (I have a IS300). And Two, so I can see how much the prices will drop on the E46 M3. I would like to get a 2003 E46 M3 in Laguna Seca Blue (the last year they had that color) or Phoenix Yellow.
 
What do you think of the IS-F, and do think that hte new M3 will beat the RS4's 0-60 time of 4.2 secs? It's gonna be hard to do, considering the fact that the Audi is AWD, and the M3 is RWD.


E46 M3 is one of the best designs ever to come from BMW. Their new designs in my opinion are meh! That's why I am keeping mine and see whatever options are open in the future. The prices on the used market isn't too bad at the time, some are going for low to mid 30's for 2002 and 03 models. The Laguna Seca and Phoenix yellow are definite head turners, just too bad they stopped making it in 04.

Regarding how the new E92 M3 stacks up, we'll have to wait and see. It's no longer 2000 or 2001 anymore, many car manufacturers are upping up thier game to keep BMW to push the envelope some more. I think the RS4 is great, but if history repeats it self the M3 should beat it overall. The problem with the RS4 is that it is pretty heavy and the AWD contributes a lot for that. Let's not forget about the IS-F, C63 AMG. They want a piece of the cake as well.

I think the IS-F is a good direction for Lexus to move into. Since Toyota  is becoming the largest auto maker in the world they can definitely churn out performance with the amount of money they have and they should. I've driven the IS250 with the 6-speed and it was a fun car. For the price, the quality, reliability and comfort is hard to beat. I understand people are going to try to compare it to BMW, but I think it's more of a mercedes kind of car. Big power, auto, luxury cruiser! The new 5.0 V8 with over 400 hp shouldn't be taken lightly. Hell, the IS350 was rated 0-60 in 4.9 seconds :o The IS-F is going to be friggin fast. I bet it will be the least expensive out of all the others.

By the way, the IS300 is a nice car, I've always liked them. Just wish it came with the same motor as they do in Japan if you know what I mean ;)



Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: Parker on February 05, 2007, 04:48:00 AM

E46 M3 is one of the best designs ever to come from BMW. Their new designs in my opinion are meh! That's why I am keeping mine and see whatever options are open in the future. The prices on the used market isn't too bad at the time, some are going for low to mid 30's for 2002 and 03 models. The Laguna Seca and Phoenix yellow are definite head turners, just too bad they stopped making it in 04.

Regarding how the new E92 M3 stacks up, we'll have to wait and see. It's no longer 2000 or 2001 anymore, many car manufacturers are upping up thier game to keep BMW to push the envelope some more. I think the RS4 is great, but if history repeats it self the M3 should beat it overall. The problem with the RS4 is that it is pretty heavy and the AWD contributes a lot for that. Let's not forget about the IS-F, C63 AMG. They want a piece of the cake as well.

I think the IS-F is a good direction for Lexus to move into. Since Toyota  is becoming the largest auto maker in the world they can definitely churn out performance with the amount of money they have and they should. I've driven the IS250 with the 6-speed and it was a fun car. For the price, the quality, reliability and comfort is hard to beat. I understand people are going to try to compare it to BMW, but I think it's more of a mercedes kind of car. Big power, auto, luxury cruiser! The new 5.0 V8 with over 400 hp shouldn't be taken lightly. Hell, the IS350 was rated 0-60 in 4.9 seconds :o The IS-F is going to be friggin fast. I bet it will be the least expensive out of all the others.

By the way, the IS300 is a nice car, I've always liked them. Just wish it came with the same motor as they do in Japan if you know what I mean ;)





I agree with you, although I am disappointed that the IS-F Concept had a 8 speed auto, it seemed like i was aiming towards Mercedes C63 AMG, because as you know the  AMG's are stright line rockets, and are not known for their handling prowess as the M cars are. Hopefully The real IS-F will come in a stick and a coupe. I think when BMW unveils its 2008 M3 at the geneva Autoshow, Lexus willhave a IS-F coupe with a stick to upstage the M3. And lets not forget, the Lexus has a 5 liter, 400 + engine, They didn't give specific HP output intentionally, until the new M3 is out. This Lexus will have more torque than the 4+ liter M3 engine. 

I will enjoy it when all 4 cars in this segment (Audi Rs4 and RS5-coupe, Lexus IS-F sedan and coupe, M3 sedan and coupe, and AMG coupe)  will be tested together.
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: KevinP85 on February 05, 2007, 04:52:14 PM
you know wayy 2 much about cars...

i honestly dont get the fascination..  ???

I bet the car guys are saying the same about bodybuilding fans with the fascination about juiced up guys posing in bikinis ;D
Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 05, 2007, 05:09:34 PM
I bet the car guys are saying the same about bodybuilding fans with the fascination about juiced up guys posing in bikinis ;D

actually i hardly read the mags or go to shows..i'm too self centered for that  :-\

Title: Re: Car advice from Lee.....since i dont like the advice my brother gives me..
Post by: 250Ben250 on February 06, 2007, 08:06:23 PM
Parker -- I'm looking at getting the Lexus IS-350 for my wife. What's your recommendation, compared to an A4? We were even looking at the Mazda's (God forbid, but she liked the 3), but she's back on the IS unless there's a good reason not too...