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Reunion (2007)
Members of the band have reportedly been offered large sums of money to reunite for concerts and tours, and have turned the offers down.[3] Despite rumors that there was bad blood between the band and de la Rocha, when they were asked about their relationship with de la Rocha during an August 28, 2006 interview on Rockline, Commerford said that he and de la Rocha see each other often and go surfing together. Morello said he and de la Rocha communicate by phone, and had met up at a September 15, 2006 protest in support of the South Central Farmers, who tend one of the biggest urban farms in the United States.[4] Morello and de la Rocha were photographed together at the protest, the first photograph of the two since the band's breakup. [5]
Billboard reported on January 19, 2007 that there were rumors Rage Against the Machine could reunite at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival.[6]. These rumors were confirmed in a Los Angeles Times article on January 22[7] and later on the band's official website.[8] The band is billed to headline the final day of Coachella 2007 on Sunday, April 29.[9][10] Billboard reports that sources suggest this will likely be a one-off,[11] but Morello has not ruled out future RATM activities.[12] Kerrang! reports that more performances have been planned.[verification needed]
The reunion performance will primarily be a vehicle to voice the band's opposition to the "right-wing purgatory" the United States has "slid into" under the George W. Bush administration since RATM's dissolution.[12]
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i would love to see them make a new album...
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guerilla radio-rage against the machine
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people of the sun-rage against tehe machine
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bulls on parade-rage against the machine
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no shelter-rage against the machine
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killing in the name of-rage against the machine
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Rage made a great first album and some ok stuff in between filler for a few more. They don't under any circumstances need to make another album. Why? because they do the same shit every song.. pick up a bass or guitar and play a few rage songs from their first album and you'll have the tools to quickly figure out any song they have made.
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Rage made a great first album and some ok stuff in between filler for a few more. They don't under any circumstances need to make another album. Why? because they do the same shit every song.. pick up a bass or guitar and play a few rage songs from their first album and you'll have the tools to quickly figure out any song they have made.
i think so they have a very unique sound..dude their unique guitar and bass rifts are impossible to figure out.sometimes their lead guitar player has difficulties in figuring out his own riffs.rage is one of a kind
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The first album is an undisputed classic. Great production, great lyrics [although i don't agree with any of them], great guitar [like an angry jimmy page], cool ryhtum section.
However, my abiding memory of RATM is seeing them play live at a festival where they inevitably played 'killing in the name of'. The problem was the audience was full of students that paid a fortune to get in, paid a fortune for food and drink, and had just paid an insane ammount of money to the goverment - who had introduced 'tuition fees'. Fuck you i won't do what you tell me? ::) ::) ::) HYPOCRITES
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The first album is an undisputed classic. Great production, great lyrics [although i don't agree with any of them], great guitar [like an angry jimmy page], cool ryhtum section.
However, my abiding memory of RATM is seeing them play live at a festival where they inevitably played 'killing in the name of'. The problem was the audience was full of students that paid a fortune to get in, paid a fortune for food and drink, and had just paid an insane ammount of money to the goverment - who had introduced 'tuition fees'. f**k you i won't do what you tell me? ::) ::) ::) HYPOCRITES
RAGE are gods
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i think so they have a very unique sound..dude their unique guitar and bass rifts are impossible to figure out.sometimes their lead guitar player has difficulties in figuring out his own riffs.rage is one of a kind
Their sound is unique, it was just kind of the same thing every album though.. so much so that I'd often find myself playing bass for some of the first album and accidentally tabbing songs from their later albums. Realistically the unique element is morello.
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Their sound is unique, it was just kind of the same thing every album though.. so much so that I'd often find myself playing bass for some of the first album and accidentally tabbing songs from their later albums. Realistically the unique element is morello.
yep tom morello is the best guitarist of all time.have you heard guerilla radio.the guitar riifs are fuckin awesome in this song
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i think so they have a very unique sound..dude their unique guitar and bass rifts are impossible to figure out.sometimes their lead guitar player has difficulties in figuring out his own riffs.rage is one of a kind
hahhahahahahaha, ok,
what do you play, a Fisher Price Rainbow Xylophone?
(http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/74/4b/Fisher_Price_Pull-a-Tune_Xylophone_Keychain-resized200.gif)
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hahhahahahahaha, ok,
what do you play, a Fisher Price Rainbow Xylophone?
(http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/74/4b/Fisher_Price_Pull-a-Tune_Xylophone_Keychain-resized200.gif)
whats wrong with my post clown? ??? :-\
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i think so they have a very unique sound..dude their unique guitar and bass rifts are impossible to figure out.sometimes their lead guitar player has difficulties in figuring out his own riffs.rage is one of a kind
Very wrong. RATM is very easy to play if you know your instrument.
They are a very good band, Debussey will give you that. 8) *TAKE THE POWER BACK* nanananana
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They need a Reunion tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 >:(
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They need a Reunion tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 >:(
actually they are.they will tour this year and maybe record a new album
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Very wrong. RATM is very easy to play if you know your instrument.
They are a very good band, Debussey will give you that. 8) *TAKE THE POWER BACK* nanananana
bulls on parade...amazing song
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The basslines for the first Rage cd are up there with Pearl Jam's ten as one of the most fun to jam along with at home. Shit, I think I might put on that cd today :)
The REAL question is, will Rage Against the Machine touch upon the most catalyzing and divisive issue of our lifetimes? The highly scrutinized event which triggered the wars and domestic controls.
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The basslines for the first Rage cd are up there with Pearl Jam's ten as one of the most fun to jam along with at home. Shit, I think I might put on that cd today :)
The REAL question is, will Rage Against the Machine touch upon the most catalyzing and divisive issue of our lifetimes? The highly scrutinized event which triggered the wars and domestic controls.
I WISH THEY DO
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Boy, third world country citizens really love RAGE.
Keep fighting the good fight!
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I WISH THEY DO
the olde rage was good. I memorized evil empire when i was 11.
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rage against the machine SUCKS ive always hated that shitty, shitty band, their vocalist was maybe the most annoying ever.
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rage against the machine SUCKS ive always hated that shitty, shitty band, their vocalist was maybe the most annoying ever.
translation: I had a bad upbringing and wasn't very close to my father, and now i'm reflecting on the past and wish things could have gone better.
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translation: I had a bad upbringing and wasn't very close to my father, and now i'm reflecting on the past and wish things could have gone better.
no they're a shitty rock/rap infusion band and they're a bunch of fucking commies. Why don't they donate all the money they've made from record sales and donate to junkies who don't feel like working? Then they'ed honor thier socialist beliefs.
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no they're a shitty rock/rap infusion band and they're a bunch of fucking commies. Why don't they donate all the money they've made from record sales and donate to junkies who don't feel like working? Then they'ed honor thied socialist beliefs.
Hmm.. I really doubt most of their fans are REALLY IN SUPPORT of their lyrical meanings/liberation of Mexico... im pretty sure its because they just like their music.... could be wrong though. ::)
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I totally disagree with their political points but they are a great band. I have always liked rage. Evil Empire was a great album. I would love to see them live it would be great
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the best song was "the ghost of tom joads"
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the best song was "the ghost of tom joads"
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Hey there HURL GARBALDO. WANNA PARTY???? ;D
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The basslines for the first Rage cd are up there with Pearl Jam's ten as one of the most fun to jam along with at home. Shit, I think I might put on that cd today :)
The REAL question is, will Rage Against the Machine touch upon the most catalyzing and divisive issue of our lifetimes? The highly scrutinized event which triggered the wars and domestic controls.
Hah yeh.. I got so sick of playing those songs every day. I can still knock out bombtrack years and years later after not playing bass for ages. It never leaves you. The thing that bugged me about the later albums is that I could stuff around with the know your enemy/bombtrack tabs and generally accidentally end up playing half the new songs.
Zach is god!
(Just kidding - I don't rate him haha)
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rage against the machine SUCKS ive always hated that shitty, shitty band, their vocalist was maybe the most annoying ever.
its because 90% of their song are about US foreign policies and domestic as well..so fuck you once and for al.rage rulz
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no they're a shitty rock/rap infusion band and they're a bunch of fucking commies. Why don't they donate all the money they've made from record sales and donate to junkies who don't feel like working? Then they'ed honor thier socialist beliefs.
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE IS THE REAL DEAL.YOU GUYS STILL LIKE THEM
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Hah yeh.. I got so sick of playing those songs every day. I can still knock out bombtrack years and years later after not playing bass for ages. It never leaves you. The thing that bugged me about the later albums is that I could stuff around with the know your enemy/bombtrack tabs and generally accidentally end up playing half the new songs.
Zach is god!
(Just kidding - I don't rate him haha)
STOP LYING..YOU CAN'T PLAY ANY RAGE SONG
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STOP LYING..YOU CAN'T PLAY ANY RAGE SONG
I probably couldn't play any rage song on guitar but I can and have played many rage songs.
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I probably couldn't play any rage song on guitar but I can and have played many rage songs.
which ones??
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which ones??
shadow,
RATM guitar and bass isn't all that hard. I learned the first RATM record in about a week on bass when I was a beginner. They're eighth notes at worst, all in E or D. It ain't rocket science. get a whammy pedal and a wah and you can cop anything morello does on guitar. They're cool as hell, and creative, but not hard to learn.
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shadow,
RATM guitar and bass isn't all that hard. I learned the first RATM record in about a week on bass when I was a beginner. They're eighth notes at worst, all in E or D. It ain't rocket science. get a whammy pedal and a wah and you can cop anything morello does on guitar. They're cool as hell, and creative, but not hard to learn.
i heard a few bands on youtube covering their songs and all of them sucked...only rage can do it and no one else.
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Yeah that coachella concert will be sick! Anyone going to it? You shadow? I'm thinking about making the 13 hour drive. Chilli Peppers and the Roots will be playing, as well. Tickets are 200 dollars though >:(
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Yeah that coachella concert will be sick! Anyone going to it? You shadow? I'm thinking about making the 13 hour drive. Chilli Peppers and the Roots will be playing, as well. Tickets are 200 dollars though >:(
i am from india dude.i can only dream of it :'( :'( :'(
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Oh yeah, my bad. Well if I go I'll post pics up here.
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Oh yeah, my bad. Well if I go I'll post pics up here.
sure to video tape it if you go there.i am a die hard fan of rage
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Dude did you know Tom Morello got his B.A. in Political science from Harvard? And while he was there he practiced usually eight hours a day! Talk about dedication.
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Dude did you know Tom Morello got his B.A. in Political science from Harvard? And while he was there he practiced usually eight hours a day! Talk about dedication.
no wonder he knows so much about politics.this guy is amazing.i actually became a rage fan by mistake.i was flipping the channels and when i flipped to mtv i saw guerilla radio..i was in shock.i was like damn this is what we call a fuckin awesome song and from that moment on i became a hardcore rage fan.their music is so fuckin unique and different that its just so amazing.i think so they are the first band to create a genre of their own that is rage genre..amazing to say the least
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no wonder he knows so much about politics.this guy is amazing.i actually became a rage fan by mistake.i was flipping the channels and when i flipped to mtv i saw guerilla radio..i was in shock.i was like damn this is what we call a fuckin awesome song and from that moment on i became a hardcore rage fan.their music is so fuckin unique and different that its just so amazing.i think so they are the first band to create a genre of their own that is rage genre..amazing to say the least
Dude if you like Rage's lyics you should check out this mc, Immortal Technique. He is a hip hop artist and sounds nothing like Rage or Morello, but i think you will really appreciate his political message.
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actually here you go....
4th Branch
The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white
Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
Conservative political right wing, ideology
Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration
How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
Human rights violations, we continue the saga
El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
And on top of that, you still wanna take me to prison
Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism
[Hook]
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They wanna rearrange the whole point of view of the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Read about the history of the place that we live in
And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children
[Verse 2]
Flow like the blood of Abraham through the Jews and the Arabs
Broken apart like a woman's heart, abused in a marriage
The brink of holy war, bottled up, like a miscarriage
Embedded correspondents don't tell the source of the tension
And they refuse to even mention, European intervention
Or the massacres in Jenin, the innocent screams
U.S. manufactured missles, and M-16's
Weapon contracts and corrupted American dreams
Media censorship, blocking out the video screens
A continent of oil kingdoms, bought for a bargain
Democracy is just a word, when the people are starvin'
The average citizen, made to be, blind to the reason
A desert full of genocide, where the bodies are freezin'
And the world doesn't believe that you fightin' for freedom
Cause you fucked the Middle East, and gave birth to a demon
It's open season with the CIA, bugging my crib
Trapped in a ghetto region like a Palestinian kid
Where nobody gives a fuck whether you die or you live
I'm tryin' to give the truth, and I know the price is my life
But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade
Like a fallen angel standing in the presence of God
Bitch niggaz scared of the truth, when it looks at you hard
[Hook]
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They wanna rearrange the whole point of view in the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Martial law is coming soon to the hood, to kill you
While you hanging your flag out your project window
[Talking]
Yeah..
The fourth branch of the government AKA the media
Seems to now have a retirement plan for ex-military officials
As if their opinion was at all unbiased
A machine shouldn't speak for men
So shut the fuck up you mindless drone!
And you know it's serious
When these same media outfits are spending millions of dollars on a PR campaign
To try to convince you they're fair and balanced
When they're some of the most ignorant, and racist people
Giving that type of mentality a safe haven
We act like we share in the spoils of war that they do
We die in wars, we don't get the contracts to make money off 'em afterwards!
We don't get weapons contracts, guy!
We don't get cheap labor for our companies, guy!
We are cheap labor, guy!
Turn off the news and read, guy!
Read... read... read...
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Dude if you like Rage's lyics you should check out this mc, Immortal Technique. He is a hip hop artist and sounds nothing like Rage or Morello, but i think you will really appreciate his political message.
rage is more hardcore.along with their music,their lyrics sound even more impressive.this is the kind of music that makes you angry and makes you wanna sucker punch somebody..amazing to say the least
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damn thats hardcore :o.but i'll stick with rage for the moment
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i am sooooooooooooooooo excited about this.this is awesome.the greatest,the most influential band in the history of rock music is finally back.i hope they do a new album
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i am sooooooooooooooooo excited about this.this is awesome.the greatest,the most influential band in the history of rock music is finally back.i hope they do a new album
Most influential???? Greatest is subjective opinion, but come on-influential???? What is the extent of their influence?
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Most influential???? Greatest is subjective opinion, but come on-influential???? What is the extent of their influence?
they are man..they have done things no other band could do
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they are man..they have done thing no other band could do
They are an excellent political band who did say things to make you think about the way the government is working... They did influence people and thoughts, they are not, however, the most influential band.
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They are an excellent political band who did say things to make you think about the way the government is working... They did influence people and thoughts, they are not, however, the most influential band.
correct.i can't wait to see their reunion.i hope they go on and make an album
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STOP LYING..YOU CAN'T PLAY ANY RAGE SONG
Rage = very easy to play. Morello is from a guitarist point of view nothing special at all. He usually plays straight pentatonic solos (his riffs = mostly pentatonic as well), and his technical ability is not very good. He can do some ok alternate picking, but that is it. So far he has not proven to be able to play over any complex chord progressions, he has not done any difficult technical stuff or recorded anything that should be a huge challenge for a mediocre guitar player.
He has been quite innovative with the effects though, and he has a unique style, but reproducing Rage's bass or guitar parts is very easy, even for an intermediate guitar or bassplayer.
Debussey does not think Rage themselves even gives a shit about how difficult their songs are..
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Rage = very easy to play. Morello is from a guitarist point of view nothing special at all. He usually plays straight pentatonic solos (his riffs = mostly pentatonic as well), and his technical ability is not very good. He can do some ok alternate picking, but that is it. So far he has not proven to be able to play over any complex chord progressions, he has not done any difficult technical stuff or recorded anything that should be a huge challenge for a mediocre guitar player.
He has been quite innovative with the effects though, and he has a unique style, but reproducing Rage's bass or guitar parts is very easy, even for an intermediate guitar or bassplayer.
Debussey does not think Rage themselves even gives a shit about how difficult their songs are..
KISS must have about a zillion 2 chord songs... not like it keeps any of them from making money.
Debussey definitely right about these facts.
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Rage = very easy to play. Morello is from a guitarist point of view nothing special at all. He usually plays straight pentatonic solos (his riffs = mostly pentatonic as well), and his technical ability is not very good. He can do some ok alternate picking, but that is it. So far he has not proven to be able to play over any complex chord progressions, he has not done any difficult technical stuff or recorded anything that should be a huge challenge for a mediocre guitar player.
He has been quite innovative with the effects though, and he has a unique style, but reproducing Rage's bass or guitar parts is very easy, even for an intermediate guitar or bassplayer.
Debussey does not think Rage themselves even gives a shit about how difficult their songs are..
tom morello is an outstanding guitar player.he has been ranked as the 26th best guitar player out of a list of 100.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Morello
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tom morello is an outstanding guitar player.he has been ranked as the 26th best guitar player out of a list of 100.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Morello
I truly don't think he's better than Zappa, Johnny Winter, or Bo Didley, so excuse me if I don't really give Rolling Stone's list "THAT" much credit.
That's just my opinion of course.
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THEY'RE COMMUNISTS
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tom morello is an outstanding guitar player.he has been ranked as the 26th best guitar player out of a list of 100.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Morello
Rankings such as "Rolling Stone magazine's list of 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time" are not based on actual skill.. There are hundreds of thousands of guitarplayers around the world that = 100x better than 99% of the players on that list. You can find them in most conservatories.. Lists such as these are based on popularity and cultural impact, not skill. There are tens of thousands of 14 year old players that can play things Morello could only dream of playing..
Most people would never understand why this is true before they become proficient at the guitar themselves though.. Kurt Cobain is ranked as #12 on the list you quoted. Kurt Cobain could not play guitar at all, he sucked like there is no tomorrow. He made some cool songs though.
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Debussey: Correct.
shadow: He can be your favorite guitarist, that's great. But debating "26th best player"... that's a popularity contest. That's fine. But you don't really believe he's the 26th best player in the world, do ya? No way to quantify that, and it's obvious there are 10,000 better virtuosos in the world.
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Rankings such as "Rolling Stone magazine's list of 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time" are not based on actual skill.. There are hundreds of thousands of guitarplayers around the world that = 100x better than 99% of the players on that list. You can find them in most conservatories.. Lists such as these are based on popularity and cultural impact, not skill. There are tens of thousands of 14 year old players that can play things Morello could only dream of playing..
Most people would never understand why this is true before they become proficient at the guitar themselves though.. Kurt Cobain is ranked as #12 on the list you quoted. Kurt Cobain could not play guitar at all, he sucked like there is no tomorrow. He made some cool songs though.
Yeah that list is a joke. ...I would shuffle the top 10 around a bit
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Yeah that list is a joke. ...I would shuffle the top 10 around a bit
Maybe 1 of the players on that list really belong there. If the list was to really meassure the top 100, it would be filled with names most people would never recognize.
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Debussey: Correct.
shadow: He can be your favorite guitarist, that's great. But debating "26th best player"... that's a popularity contest. That's fine. But you don't really believe he's the 26th best player in the world, do ya? No way to quantify that, and it's obvious there are 10,000 better virtuosos in the world.
i have never heard a guitar sound like the way he plays it..very very unique.he relys on alot distortars,whammy,wah ha pedal.also he really knows how to use the toggle switch.what ever you say but in my eyes hes the best.his guitar playing is completely different
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i have never heard a guitar sound like the way he plays it..very very unique.he relys on alot distortars,whammy,wah ha pedal.also he really knows how to use the toggle switch.what ever you say but in my eyes hes the best.his guitar playing is completely different
If you think he is a terrific guitarplayer, good for you. He might even like gobi.
Tell Debussey Sushant: Do you play guitar?
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Maybe 1 of the players on that list really belong there. If the list was to really meassure the top 100, it would be filled with names most people would never recognize.
Yeah, you are right
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If you think he is a terrific guitarplayer, good for you. He might even like gobi.
Tell Debussey Sushant: Do you play guitar?
no...but i think it looks really tough though
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no...but i think its looks really tough though
You should learn to play an instrument.
Then you can sing indian songs at your daily Gobi fest.
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You should learn to play an instrument.
Then you can sing indian songs at your daily Gobi fest.
i tried.. and sucked big time..
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i tried.. and sucked big time..
Of course you did. You suck at everything you do. You can not even date 13 year olds.
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Of course you did. You suck at everything you do. You can not even date 13 year olds.
yeah yeah whatever :-\
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yeah yeah whatever :-\
It must suck looking like a brown virgin poop, a brown poop that claims that people have "negative IQ".
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It must suck looking like a brown virgin poop, a brown poop that claims that people have "negative IQ".
yep you have one though..negative IQ.its the first evidence that one can have a negative IQ thats is you..
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yep you have one though..negative IQ.its the first evidence that one can have a negative IQ thats is you..
Do you call yourself "The shadow" because you look like one wherever you are? Do your family smell like curry?
How could they name you "Sushant Kapur"? Sounds like a disgusting dish.
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Do you call yourself "The shadow" because you look like one wherever you are? Do your family smell like curry?
How could they name you "Sushant Kapur"? Sounds like a disgusting dish.
:-\ :-\ :-\ :-\..ok you win i lose..happy???
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You could probably walk into your local guitar store and half the employees will play better than Morrello. But that is not to say he is a bad guitarist.
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Who out of the famous people would you say is the absolute best.
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Who out of the famous people would you say is the absolute best.
John Petrucci is one of the technicaly best guitarists on the list.
Joe Satrianni and Steve Vai are up there as well. G3 is an amazing band.
A guy named Victor Wooten is an amazing basist on their basist list. Plays for a band called Bella Fleck and the Flectones.
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This guys pretty decent, as well.
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John Petrucci is one of the technicaly best guitarists on the list.
Joe Satrianni and Steve Vai are up there as well. G3 is an amazing band.
A guy named Victor Wooten is an amazing basist on their basist list. Plays for a band called Bella Fleck and the Flectones.
I like hendrix myself because he was so outside the box. Now i actually like SRV but its hard to really like him ahead of albert king because thats where his style comes from. and i Used to like Vai...he was a monster on the late 80's. Remember him in crossroads.
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Debussey is talking shit. Shadow is right. Morello is great. Technically he might not be great, but who cares. He's creative. Might use the pedals a little much, but still done some great stuff.
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he's creative, he writes some cool music. he has millions of fans.
but "the greatest" is so subjective. Aside from technical prowess, you have to compare styles. Is a top shredder better than a top jazz soloist? Where do the uber creative ones like Hendrix or Morello come in?
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Well I look at it this way - say Metallica is going on a world tour, Kirk decides he's done touring and wants to quit alltogether... now Metallica won't have such a big problem finding a guitarist that can do his stuff live, but after the tour is done and they sit down to record the next album... will that same guitarist be creative enough to come up with the kind of stuff Kirk did, like the solo on "one" ?
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he's creative, he writes some cool music. he has millions of fans.
but "the greatest" is so subjective. Aside from technical prowess, you have to compare styles. Is a top shredder better than a top jazz soloist? Where do the uber creative ones like Hendrix or Morello come in?
Right...you ever heard of a guy called Joe Pass. Awsome jazz soloist.
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John Petrucci is one of the technicaly best guitarists on the list.
Joe Satrianni and Steve Vai are up there as well. G3 is an amazing band.
A guy named Victor Wooten is an amazing basist on their basist list. Plays for a band called Bella Fleck and the Flectones.
You are right on there brother. The last G3 vid was amazing.
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Debussey is talking shit. Shadow is right. Morello is great. Technically he might not be great, but who cares. He's creative. Might use the pedals a little much, but still done some great stuff.
Stop and think. Debussey and teh sushant Kapur is using different criteria. From a pure guitarist criteria Morello ain't shit. From a criteria that takes popularity, how the music "fit" into the culture and so fourth, Morello is an awsome musician WITHIN HIS STYLE.
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Right...you ever heard of a guy called Joe Pass. Awsome jazz soloist.
Joe Pass = a legend.
Debussey loved his "hot licks" video, and Pass work with Oscar Peterson = legendary.
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Joe Pass = a legend.
Debussey loved his "hot licks" video, and Pass work with Oscar Peterson = legendary.
Thats what I'm talking about another guitar aficionado
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Thats what I'm talking about another guitar aficionado
Yes! Do you own "the legendary Oscar Peterson Trio Live at the blue note"? You can get most old jazz records at Emusic.com, and they have a free deal so you can try it out without any expenses.
If you love jazz and classical music, Emusic is a great and cheap service.
The great Joe Pass: He was a friggin master of playing substitute changes.
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I think this list is way more legitimate than Rolling Stone's list
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_newguitar.html
Joe Pass is sick!
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This list is good too.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitar-all.html
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This list is good too.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitar-all.html
Great post!
The site recommends these albums:
Joe Pass - "Virtuoso"
Joe Maphis - "Fire on the Strings"
Django Reinhardt - "The Quintet of the Hot Club of France"
Robert Johnson - "The King of the Delta Blues"
Wes Montgomery - "The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery"
Julian Bream - "Julian Bream Plays Granados and Albeniz"
Charlie Christian - "The Genius of the Electric Guitar"
Al DiMeola, John McLaughlin, Paco DeLucia - "Friday Night in San Francisco"
Micheal Hedges - "Aerial Boundaries"
Leo Kottke - "6 and 12 String Guitar"
Derek and the Dominoes - "Live at the Fillmore"
John Williams - "Concierto de Aranjuez"
Lenny Breau - "Live at Bourbon St."
Great albums for everybody, especially musicians. "Virtouso" by Joe Pass = incredible. Every jazz guitarist should own this album.
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who cares about jazz. i thought we were discussing real music, rock n roll.
this is a rage against the machine thread after all.
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who cares about jazz. i thought we were discussing real music, rock n roll.
this is a rage against the machine thread after all.
rage against the machine are god..and i worshipp them.the are the best of the best
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who cares about jazz. i thought we were discussing real music, rock n roll.
this is a rage against the machine thread after all.
You do realize that rock has roots in jazz and blues right?
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You do realize that rock has roots in jazz and blues right?
yeah and i do realize that black n white tv's was before color tv so thats why i only watch black n white tv all day ::)
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yeah and i do realize that black n white tv's was before color tv so thats why i only watch black n white tv all day ::)
Dude the jazz guys can play simple E chord rock all fuckin day long and make it 10 times more dynamic.
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yeah and i do realize that black n white tv's was before color tv so thats why i only watch black n white tv all day ::)
Not doesn't even remotely have the same meaning.
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yeah and i do realize that black n white tv's was before color tv so thats why i only watch black n white tv all day ::)
Go back to Mitch. :-*
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Not doesn't even remotely have the same meaning.
yes it does i dont give a shit about the roots of anything it's the state it's in RIGHT NOW that matters now
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yes it does i dont give a shit about the roots of anything it's the state it's in RIGHT NOW that matters now
Riiight... ::)
Those who do not learn from the past, are destined to repeat it...
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Dude the jazz guys can play simple E chord rock all fuckin day long and make it 10 times more dynamic.
so what. it still sucks. who the hell listens to jazz when there's rock n roll? but be my guest, you can sit in some jazzclub with your glasses and sipping on a glass of whine while the rest of us enjoy sex drugs n rock n roll ;D
i thought the thread with the nerds discussing monitors was bad, turned out we got a bunch of jazz nerds too
oh brother. ::)
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so what. it still sucks. who the hell listens to jazz when there's rock n roll? but be my guest, you can sit in some jazzclub with your glasses and sipping on a glass of whine while the rest of us enjoy sex drugs n rock n roll ;D
i thought the thread with the nerds discussing monitors was bad, turned out we got a bunch of jazz nerds too
oh brother. ::)
We've got music lovers... not "rock" bigots.
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eh i dont see what this is leading. you got a point with all this?
last i checked the title of this thread was rage against the machine and then the discussion was about their guitarists and rock n roll guitarists especially
but apparantely we shouldnt listen to that, we should constantly remind ourselves that they didnt invent the guitar ::)
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eh i dont see what this is leading. you got a point with all this?
last i checked the title of this thread was rage against the machine and then the discussion was about their guitarists and rock n roll guitarists especially
but apparantely we shouldnt listen to that, we should constantly remind ourselves that they didnt invent the guitar ::)
Dude, when was the last time a thread didn't swerve off point... Enjoy your jazz bashing... I've got to lift anyway.
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bring some jazz in your earphones ;D
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bring some jazz in your earphones ;D
I actually do have some for my cardio (what little bit I do)
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eh i dont see what this is leading. you got a point with all this?
last i checked the title of this thread was rage against the machine and then the discussion was about their guitarists and rock n roll guitarists especially
but apparantely we shouldnt listen to that, we should constantly remind ourselves that they didnt invent the guitar ::)
You are a funny guy Bluto. You ignore the logical construct of a discussion to project your own inadequacy to enjoy the finer and more complicated things in life onto other people via bashing. Science and complexity will always win over the contemporary concept of "cool". Exept for the truth of the universe, dictated by Jake Busey, aka Jesus.
That is exactly what Gary Busey would do when he tries to play insane. But Gary knows better. He is a fine lover of the good things in life.
Mitch would never do that.
Sushant Kapur is just a gobi negro.
Slippy loves a big dick up his ass.
Yaroni is a hottie with a double chin.
The Aliens did some stuff to Debussey.
And real musicians will always win over the top 20 lists.
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I actually do have some for my cardio (what little bit I do)
Haha, so does Debussey. Debussey had a fine Robert Conti album in its mp3 player as gym music for weeks, along with some Eric Dolphy stuff.
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Haha, so does Debussey. Debussey had a fine Robert Conti album in its mp3 player as gym music for weeks, along with some Eric Dolphy stuff.
I go old school big band jazz... from the day.
Duke Ellington, Don Redman, Fletcher Henderson...
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I go old school big band jazz... from the day.
Duke Ellington, Don Redman, Fletcher Henderson...
:o
:D
Tu_holmes=Debussey approved!!
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:o
:D
Tu_holmes=Debussey approved!!
Why thank you!
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"real" musicians? defined by who? just admit you're a pussy that never been to a real concert in your whole life and sit at home all day jerking off to jazz records on vinyl and think that makes you special
and dont reply with 2 pages, keep it short stupid.
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I go old school big band jazz... from the day.
Duke Ellington, Don Redman, Fletcher Henderson...
hahaha
i bet that helped you get in the "zone" for your training session with the ab-swing
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hahaha
i bet that helped you get in the "zone" for your training session with the ab-swing
You wish... I still haven't left for the gym... anytime now, considering it's all of 200 feet away.
Oh, and just because I like jazz doesn't mean I don't listen to... Oh what would you call it?
"Hard" shit?
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You wish... I still haven't left for the gym... anytime now, considering it's all of 200 feet away.
Oh, and just because I like jazz doesn't mean I don't listen to... Oh what would you call it?
"Hard" shit?
rock n roll. it's called rock n roll.
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rock n roll. it's called rock n roll.
Rock n roll has so many variations, you can't possibly lump them all together...
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Rock n roll has so many variations, you can't possibly lump them all together...
yes you can. i just did
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Hi. My name is Eric. I am from Philly.
Hi BroadStreet :-*
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yes you can. i just did
Yes, poorly.