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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: hipolito mejia on February 06, 2007, 04:13:36 PM
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I was just watching the 93'Arnold classic last night, the so called "(lowest bf on a bb ever)" and at the end, when he's on stage next to Labrada they both look so ripped and dry that flex woudn't take Labrada on his condition alone, it was his size!!! btw, when standing relax Labrada had a much better V taper than Flex who was kind of narrow on lat width and his pecs looked kind of short compared to his large abdominal region (Flex had a tiny waist don't give me wrong), but his abs were kind of too long next to his chest, for a perfect torso anyways
the show could have gone either way (yet people think Flex was the best a bber ever looked on stage that day)
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Flex 1993 was a sight to behold , just an outstanding bodybuilder but you do have some vaild points about Labrada another amazing bodybuilder
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see what i mean? Labrada had the chest,delts,arms waist and hardness all in harmony.....he was down to a point
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I was just watching the 93'Arnold classic last night, the so called "(lowest bf on a bb ever)" and at the end, when he's on stage next to Labrada they both look so ripped and dry that flex woudn't take Labrada on his condition alone, it was his size!!! btw, when standing relax Labrada had a much better V taper than Flex who was kind of narrow on lat width and his pecs looked kind of short compared to his large abdominal region (Flex had a tiny waist don't give me wrong), but his abs were kind of too long next to his chest, for a perfect torso anyways
the show could have gone either way (yet people think Flex was the best a bber ever looked on stage that day)
Where did get the vid? Flex was narrow, but his back was ripped to shreds. I have a back double bi pic, and Flex's detail was off the meter, and his conditioning was spot on. He was ripped even in his problem areas from the lower back to hams.
I noticed that Flex at the 1993 Olympia had a better V taper than Labrada, and Flex's waist was smaller from the front (it seemed) than Shawn Ray's. I think if Flex had not broken his neck, and continued gaining small increments of muscle he would have been a 5-7 time Arnold Classic winner
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see what i mean? Labrada had the chest,delts,arms waist and hardness all in harmony.....he was down to a point
Labrada had more of a classic physique , but Flex had very tiny joints and full bellies and outstanding shape .
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Where did get the vid? Flex was narrow, but his back was ripped to shreds. I have a back double bi pic, and Flex's detail was off the meter, and his conditioning was spot on. He was ripped even in his problem areas from the lower back to hams.
I noticed that Flex at the 1993 Olympia had a better V taper than Labrada, and Flex's waist was smaller from the front (it seemed) than Shawn Ray's. I think if Flex had not broken his neck, and continued gaining small increments of muscle he would have been a 5-7 time Arnold Classic winner
The video was on YouTube it was abouts Flexs' life and they showed a short clip and if Flex didn't break his neck he would have beat Yates at the 94 Olympia if he was spot on
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Flex at the '93 Ironman certainly isn't overated, Flex presented one of the best physiques to ever grace a bodybuilding stage IMO. He seemed a little lighter at both the Arnold & Olympia that year.
SERGIO!!!!
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the problem with flex was his lats were abysmally small, he had very little in regards to back width. I posteda pic on here last year of him doing a rear lat spread next to Orville, ive seldom seen such a raping onstage
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'93 Flex Wheeler overrated???
Yeah, of course. His condition was WAY overrated. He didn't have shit going for him. No, really... ::)
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93 Flex deserved the O!
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93 Flex deserved the O!
LOL
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This thread title should have been:
'93 Labrada underrated?
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Flex = too cocky
= used too much esciline
= used too much synthol
= glutes and hams were always too soft
= had too many excuses as to why he didn't win
= and watch his video and you'll see a lazy trainer
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Flex = too cocky
= used too much esciline
= used too much synthol
= glutes and hams were always too soft
= had too many excuses as to why he didn't win
= and watch his video and you'll see a lazy trainer
what you mean lazy?
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How can anyone with 0.0% bodyfat (the lowest ever recorded at Gold's Gym)be over rated?
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labrada was under-rated for the last few years of his career. at least 2 of the years he shouldve been mr.o.
standing next to yates and levrone, and yates and haney....labrada looked the best IMO.
Same for the 93 ASC. My eyes had labrada 1st...calf implants and lack of back width had flex in second, but only because of his extreme conditioning.
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93 Flex deserved the O!
Come on Alexxx, are you kidding? Flex's conditioning in the 93 Olympia wasn't as good as the one he had when he won the Ironman and Arnold Classic that year, not to mention he himself agreed that 'Dorian was untouchable'. Dorian was an absolute monster - huge, full, ripped and incredibly thick, not to mention he looked amazing in a lot of his poses, including his signature poses. Between Shawn and Flex it was touch and go, but between Flex and Dorian, it was day and night.
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Flex = too cocky
= used too much esciline
= used too much synthol
= glutes and hams were always too soft
= had too many excuses as to why he didn't win
= and watch his video and you'll see a lazy trainer
And yet, with ALL those things mentioned above he STILL looked good. Don't hate! ;D
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This thread title should have been:
'93 Labrada underrated?
Thanks. :)
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How can anyone with 0.0% bodyfat (the lowest ever recorded at Gold's Gym)be over rated?
1-we are talking about the Arnold classic 93', not what he looked like one day at gold's.
2- Flex muscle separation,tiny joints and full bellies made him looked 0.0 % but that's not (possible) true.
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labrada was under-rated for the last few years of his career. at least 2 of the years he shouldve been mr.o.
standing next to yates and levrone, and yates and haney....labrada looked the best IMO.
Same for the 93 ASC. My eyes had labrada 1st...calf implants and lack of back width had flex in second, but only because of his extreme conditioning.
Exactly!!
Labrada had 2 choices after haney retired, disfigure his physique and chase Yates or retired.
I think he did the right thing after all.
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1-we are talking about the Arnold classic 93', not what he looked like one day at gold's.
2- Flex muscle separation,tiny joints and full bellies made him looked 0.0 % but that's not (possible) true.
WHAT? Jim Quinn saw it for a fact! Are you doubting Jim?
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WHAT? Jim Quinn saw it for a fact! Are you doubting Jim?
Si I mean,Yes.
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Come on Alexxx, are you kidding? Flex's conditioning in the 93 Olympia wasn't as good as the one he had when he won the Ironman and Arnold Classic that year, not to mention he himself agreed that 'Dorian was untouchable'. Dorian was an absolute monster - huge, full, ripped and incredibly thick, not to mention he looked amazing in a lot of his poses, including his signature poses. Between Shawn and Flex it was touch and go, but between Flex and Dorian, it was day and night.
I never said Diesel didn't deserve to win it too. ;)
I think Labrada was overrated though. He looks like a bubblehead. Shawn Ray has a better head to body proportion then Labrada.
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Labrada was much bigger at the 1993 Arnold than he ever was prior....He claimed that all he did was make the switch from the Weider 'Victory' line to MetRx. :D
That was the original MetRx. Not the packets. Im taking about the two individual cointainers that you had to mix together. ;D
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labrada was good, but not in wheeler's class ! jmo
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I have heard that his supplemt line is very good.
I have only the protein bars though.
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I never said Diesel didn't deserve to win it too. ;)
I think Labrada was overrated though. He looks like a bubblehead. Shawn Ray has a better head to body proportion then Labrada.
Hahahahaha 100% right. Flea Labrada was overrated quite a bit. I remember him saying in an interview prior to the Mr O 1993 (in the video) that he'd noticed that the judges were starting to reward the bigger guys and as a result, had put on additional weight for that contest - upto 3 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!! Like the great Sarcasm says, 'What a BEAST' hahahahaha
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Hahahahaha 100% right. Flea Labrada was overrated quite a bit. I remember him saying in an interview prior to the Mr O 1993 (in the video) that he'd noticed that the judges were starting to reward the bigger guys and as a result, had put on additional weight for that contest - upto 3 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!! Like the great Sarcasm says, 'What a BEAST' hahahahaha
lol that must have been the creatine gains.
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ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw4_MdhJqmQ
routine from the 93 ironman....awsome.
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Si I mean,Yes.
he was measured using calipers at 0%.
obviously, he was not a true 0% since your organs and body have/need some amount of fat.
but, it is possible to be measured at 0%.
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F-K Labrada. Have you ever seen him in person. His head is huuuuuge ! He was a dick as well walking around the Arnold like he was Mr o himself. He was so stuck up that maybe that saying " It's gone to his head " or "his head is getting to big " Is tue. He's a dick and had crappy legs and a huge head which made him look weird IMO.
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F-K Labrada. Have you ever seen him in person. His head is huuuuuge ! He was a dick as well walking around the Arnold like he was Mr o himself. He was so stuck up that maybe that saying " It's gone to his head " or "his head is getting to big " Is tue. He's a dick and had crappy legs and a huge head which made him look weird IMO.
easy brother .
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yes
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F-K Labrada. Have you ever seen him in person. His head is huuuuuge ! He was a dick as well walking around the Arnold like he was Mr o himself. He was so stuck up that maybe that saying " It's gone to his head " or "his head is getting to big " Is tue. He's a dick and had crappy legs and a huge head which made him look weird IMO.
I met him once back stage and thought he was very arrogant. He was back stage pumping up to guest pose and he would not talk to anyone, but he definately liked being the center of attention. ::)
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I met him once back stage and thought he was very arrogant. He was back stage pumping up to guest pose and he would not talk to anyone, but he definately liked being the center of attention. ::)
I can relate to that. He was my favorite bodybuilder when I first began in the sport. A bunch of friends and I traveled 1 1/2 hours by car to watch him guest pose. Because of bad directions it wound up taking us 2 hours. When we arrived to the venue he was wrapping up his photos and getting ready to go onstage. Being a newbie in the sport, I really wanted a photo of Lee, so, I waited by his table after his guest appearance. He never came back to the table. Upon realizing he wasn't coming back, I went for a bathroom visit before my long trip back home. Who was coming out as I was going in? Mr. Labrada. As he walked out, I said hi to Mr.Labrada and introduced myself. He said Hi. I mentioned to him that I was waiting and hoping to get a picture of him. He stated "there are no more pictures for tonight." But,..."there will be more at the seminar tomorrow." He was also giving a seminar at a local gym the following day. When I mentioned that I lived a few hours away and would not be able to attend, his answer was a very simple, "Sorry."---- He had photos, I saw him putting them away!! He was too fuckin' lazy to pull out a pic and "sell" it a fan. I know Lee Priest gets a lot of heat from some people on the boards, but I ran into him and asked for a photo at a local gym one time, he didn't have any, but took my name and address and mailed me two photos for free!!! He then lived in L.A., I in NJ. I've never respected Labrada after that. His physique was classic, his attitude, pathetic. Even to this day, he has a great supplement company and does not have a single top amateur or pro under endorsement. Some way to give back to the sport he made his name in huh? ::) I wonder how he would have faired if not for the lucrative Met-Rx. contracts he and Dr. Connelly worked out years ago.
Wow, that turned into some rant! Sorry guys, now it's off my chest, yes, I feel better. ;D
Carlo
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Come to think of it, he did act kinda stand-offish when I met him at an expo a few years back. Now I know the vibe I got was justifiable.
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I can relate to that. He was my favorite bodybuilder when I first began in the sport. A bunch of friends and I traveled 1 1/2 hours by car to watch him guest pose. Because of bad directions it wound up taking us 2 hours. When we arrived to the venue he was wrapping up his photos and getting ready to go onstage. Being a newbie in the sport, I really wanted a photo of Lee, so, I waited by his table after his guest appearance. He never came back to the table. Upon realizing he wasn't coming back, I went for a bathroom visit before my long trip back home. Who was coming out as I was going in? Mr. Labrada. As he walked out, I said hi to Mr.Labrada and introduced myself. He said Hi. I mentioned to him that I was waiting and hoping to get a picture of him. He stated "there are no more pictures for tonight." But,..."there will be more at the seminar tomorrow." He was also giving a seminar at a local gym the following day. When I mentioned that I lived a few hours away and would not be able to attend, his answer was a very simple, "Sorry."---- He had photos, I saw him putting them away!! He was too fuckin' lazy to pull out a pic and "sell" it a fan. I know Lee Priest gets a lot of heat from some people on the boards, but I ran into him and asked for a photo at a local gym one time, he didn't have any, but took my name and address and mailed me two photos for free!!! He then lived in L.A., I in NJ. I've never respected Labrada after that. His physique was classic, his attitude, pathetic. Even to this day, he has a great supplement company and does not have a single top amateur or pro under endorsement. Some way to give back to the sport he made his name in huh? ::) I wonder how he would have faired if not for the lucrative Met-Rx. contracts he and Dr. Connelly worked out years ago.
Wow, that turned into some rant! Sorry guys, now it's off my chest, yes, I feel better. ;D
Carlo
Yep, the same attitude that he gave us. He was ass. I met Lee a couple of times at the AC and he was cool. I was there with a friend of mine once and he was curious who was taller so I asked Lee if he would stand back to back with my buddy and he was nice enough to let us see who was taller. My buddy won by an inch. ;D
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The video was on YouTube it was abouts Flexs' life and they showed a short clip and if Flex didn't break his neck he would have beat Yates at the 94 Olympia if he was spot on
I don't think that would happen. First, Dorian still won with straight-firsts, which indicates that the judges considered him to be far above the field, and secondly, he was by then a two-time winner, so he had a strong hold on the title. I think that even if Flex came in his all time best, Dorian would need to be a little more of then he was for Wheeler to win. Remember that Dorian being "off" still means that his conditioning was rock-solid.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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he was measured using calipers at 0%.
obviously, he was not a true 0% since your organs and body have/need some amount of fat.
but, it is possible to be measured at 0%.
YOU sir are wrong. Jim Quinn witnessed this astounding measurement.He commented on it during the 93 Olympia. It was,in fact,0.0% the lowest ever recorded.
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1-we are talking about the Arnold classic 93', not what he looked like one day at gold's.
2- Flex muscle separation,tiny joints and full bellies made him looked 0.0 % but that's not (possible) true.
wrong sir. It is common knowledge that Flex was indeed,0.0% bf the week before the 93 Olympia.
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i agree with u guys. labrada was good. very balanced and was in excellent poser.
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It is common knowledge that Flex was indeed,0.0% bf the week before the 93 Olympia.
Anything less than 3% and your body doesn't have enough fat to function properly. At 0.0% you be - in a word - dying.
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True, but theyre talking about the skin fold test only. Not an overall BMI.
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Anything less than 3% and your body doesn't have enough fat to function properly. At 0.0% you be - in a word - dying.
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Anything less than 3% and your body doesn't have enough fat to function properly. At 0.0% you be - in a word - dying.
Well, it looks like you are wrong...because Flex Wheeler was in fact,0.0% in the days leading up to the 93 Olympia.
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Well, it looks like you are wrong...because Flex Wheeler was in fact,0.0% in the days leading up to the 93 Olympia.
Hmm. If only there was a witness to this, or a location where it happened that could be verified? :D
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Well, it looks like you are wrong...because Flex Wheeler was in fact,0.0% in the days leading up to the 93 Olympia.
Some people just don't know BBing history for shit...
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I can relate to that. He was my favorite bodybuilder when I first began in the sport. A bunch of friends and I traveled 1 1/2 hours by car to watch him guest pose. Because of bad directions it wound up taking us 2 hours. When we arrived to the venue he was wrapping up his photos and getting ready to go onstage. Being a newbie in the sport, I really wanted a photo of Lee, so, I waited by his table after his guest appearance. He never came back to the table. Upon realizing he wasn't coming back, I went for a bathroom visit before my long trip back home. Who was coming out as I was going in? Mr. Labrada. As he walked out, I said hi to Mr.Labrada and introduced myself. He said Hi. I mentioned to him that I was waiting and hoping to get a picture of him. He stated "there are no more pictures for tonight." But,..."there will be more at the seminar tomorrow." He was also giving a seminar at a local gym the following day. When I mentioned that I lived a few hours away and would not be able to attend, his answer was a very simple, "Sorry."---- He had photos, I saw him putting them away!! He was too fuckin' lazy to pull out a pic and "sell" it a fan. I know Lee Priest gets a lot of heat from some people on the boards, but I ran into him and asked for a photo at a local gym one time, he didn't have any, but took my name and address and mailed me two photos for free!!! He then lived in L.A., I in NJ. I've never respected Labrada after that. His physique was classic, his attitude, pathetic. Even to this day, he has a great supplement company and does not have a single top amateur or pro under endorsement. Some way to give back to the sport he made his name in huh? ::) I wonder how he would have faired if not for the lucrative Met-Rx. contracts he and Dr. Connelly worked out years ago.
Wow, that turned into some rant! Sorry guys, now it's off my chest, yes, I feel better. ;D
Carlo
I dont want to jump on the anti Labrada bandwagon cos i thought he had an amazing build and possibly one of the greatest posers ever but i have a similar story when i met him in 89.
He was touring the UK with fellow texan middleweight champ stoney lee grimes and i aproached him and tried to speak to him. to tell you the truth I was a bit in awe as i had never met a pro before and was only 17 at the time. He was really off with me and i remember thinking that perhaps i had caught him on an off day. sounds like this behaviour was usual.
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Well, it looks like you are wrong...because Flex Wheeler was in fact,0.0% in the days leading up to the 93 Olympia.
If thats true I wonder how he landed onstage at 4% bodyfat? must have eaten like slob tob gain 4% bodyfat in 48 hours. ::)
Flex deserved 3rd place at the 1993 Mr O. Dorian and Shawn were better that day. Most people, a the time of the show, had Shawn placing second.
Romanticizing over contest photos 14 years after the show doesnt change the fact that Flex was the 3rd best bodybuilder on the stage that night.
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If thats true I wonder how he landed onstage at 4% bodyfat? must have eaten like slob tob gain 4% bodyfat in 48 hours. ::)
Flex deserved 3rd place at the 1993 Mr O. Dorian and Shawn were better that day. Most people, a the time of the show, had Shawn placing second.
Romanticizing over contest photos 14 years after the show doesnt change the fact that Flex was the 3rd best bodybuilder on the stage that night.
What makes you think he was 4%? The only time Flex was 4% bf was during a heavy bulking phase,and I doubt he went that high even then. ::) The only reason he lost that show was because of politics...he was 0.0% bf.This has been verified by Jim Quinn,who witnesed the measurement. This is all common knowlege.
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This has been verified by Jim Quinn
hahahahaha....
Hope this helps.
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If thats true I wonder how he landed onstage at 4% bodyfat? must have eaten like slob tob gain 4% bodyfat in 48 hours. ::)
Flex deserved 3rd place at the 1993 Mr O. Dorian and Shawn were better that day. Most people, a the time of the show, had Shawn placing second.
Romanticizing over contest photos 14 years after the show doesnt change the fact that Flex was the 3rd best bodybuilder on the stage that night.
flex was alotta hype that year. Ray beat him and Labrada might have been able to beat him at that show. Flex was good but he was soft-for him and Labrada and Ray were on. Personally I'd have put Lee ahead of Flex at that show.
if I remember right Flex had the same problems that would pague him for his entire pro career, soft hams and glutes, no calves.....there were no weaknesses on Ray and Labrada that year, except for lack of height.
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What makes you think he was 4%? The only time Flex was 4% bf was during a heavy bulking phase,and I doubt he went that high even then. ::) The only reason he lost that show was because of politics...he was 0.0% bf.This has been verified by Jim Quinn,who witnesed the measurement. This is all common knowlege.
I dont think Flex ever had a visible glute or hamstring striation. How could he be zero percent bodyfat and have soft hams and glutes?
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if I remember right Flex had the same problems that would pague him for his entire pro career, soft hams and glutes, no calves....
yes....and he had some serious mental issues too
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I dont think Flex ever had a visible glute or hamstring striation. How could he be zero percent bodyfat and have soft hams and glutes?
I think if Flex ever had them it would have been at the 96 NOC or his last Arnold win, he was in really good shape for both of thoe from what i remember.
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yes....and he had some serious mental issues too
Jon Hotten put it best...
"Instead, Flex Wheeler had the genetics of Flex Wheeler. He also had the brain of Flex Wheeler, and that wasn't necessarily a good thing. Flex was an almost heroic failure... By his own admission, he was a lost soul. And things were only going to get worse for him." - Muscle, p. 62
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Jon Hotten put it best...
"Instead, Flex Wheeler had the genetics of Flex Wheeler. He also had the brain of Flex Wheeler, and that wasn't necessarily a good thing. Flex was an almost heroic failure... By his own admission, he was a lost soul. And things were only going to get worse for him." - Muscle, p. 62
i remember reading the coverage of the 96 candadian cup where Ronnie beat flex for the first time. Flex-if I remember right-showed up the day before the show and Charles Glass was busting his balls trying to get rid of water from flex's hams and glutes and they quoted him as saying "at least he could have cared enough to show up and do this right" or something like that. Think if Flex trained as hard as Ronnie....holy cow.
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I think if Flex ever had them it would have been at the 96 NOC or his last Arnold win, he was in really good shape for both of thoe from what i remember.
I was at the 96 NOC, sat in the 4th row...Flex didnt have the ham/glute hardness there either. Being there in person I can honestly say that Coleman should have won that show.
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I was at the 96 NOC, sat in the 4th row...he didnt have the ham/glute hardness there either. Being there in person I can honestly say that Coleman should have won that show.
I thought Ronnie was awsome back then, moreso than now. Almost perfect that year.
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I thought Ronnie was awsome back then, moreso than now. Almost perfect that year.
One thing that you would never know about the 1996 NOC is that Mike Mattarazzo (who was top 5) nearly got shoved off the stage by Gunter Schlierkamp during a very rough posedown at the end of the muscularity round.
Mike was up there pounding his chest like a gorilla and flexing... others came down to posedown with him before the morning show ended.
Gunter, who was about 290lb came down to and Mike tried to lever him off with his arm. Gunter did the same and was a much more effective lever. Mike nearly fell off the stage head first. Good thing Gunter let up when he did. It was at that show that I realized just how big Gunter was...back then his legs looked inhuman...they overpowered his upper body.
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I met him once back stage and thought he was very arrogant. He was back stage pumping up to guest pose and he would not talk to anyone, but he definately liked being the center of attention. ::)
Sounds like your stereotypical guido.
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One thing that you would never know about the 1996 NOC is that Mike Mattarazzo (who was top 5) nearly got shoved off the stage by Gunter Schlierkamp during a very rough posedown at the end of the muscularity round.
Mike was up there pounding his chest like a gorilla and flexing... others came down to posedown with him before the morning show ended.
Gunter, who was about 290lb came down to and Mike tried to lever him off with his arm. Gunter did the same and was a much more effective lever. Mike nearly fell off the stage head first. Good thing Gunter let up when he did. It was at that show that I realized just how big Gunter was...back then his legs looked inhuman...they overpowered his upper body.
they had pics of that back in flex I think. MD had Metzer write up a contest report and it was terrible, he went on and on about how much BB sucked and ripped on Matazzaro. Later during the year Matazzaro got in Metzer's face and went off on him.
wasn't Don Long in 3rd at that NOC?
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Mattarazzo was a smaller than ever at that show. But Mentzer saw he was "gaunt and emaciated". That was totally rude. Mike was ripped and look good but he did over diet.
Menzter also said that the only guys in the 96 NOC with a real futre in bodybuilding were Ronnie, Flex and Gunter (who Mike said looked like a nazi). In a way, he was right about those 3.
Don Long was indeed third. He looked good. Milos was 4th I think.
It was Achim Albrect's last pro show....and Gary Strydoms come back show.
Jocyllin Politeir (sp) was there too!
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Mattarazzo was a smaller than ever at that show. But Mentzer saw he was "gaunt and emaciated". That was totally rude. Mike was ripped and look good but he did over diet.
Menzter also said that the only guys in the 96 NOC with a real futre in bodybuilding were Ronnie, Flex and Gunter (who Mike said looked like a nazi). In a way, he was right about those 3.
Don Long was indeed third. He looked good. Milos was 4th I think.
It was Achim Albrect's last pro show....and Gary Strydoms come back show.
Jocyllin Politeir (sp) was there too!
I thought Gary looked pretty good at that show from the pics I've seen. I've also seen pics of Ed Kawak that looked good and Phil Herndon looked like a monster but that's back when being ripped meant something and Phil wasn't ripped for that show.
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I thought Gary looked pretty good at that show from the pics I've seen. I've also seen pics of Ed Kawak that looked good and Phil Herndon looked like a monster but that's back when being ripped meant something and Phil wasn't ripped for that show.
Phil dwarfed everybody. HUGE. I sat next to his ex-wife...she was calling him Phillip! "Come on Phillip" lol
I saw Kawak rush in through the lobby right before prejudging. He was in shape. he was the first guy onstage too....the competitors were all supposed to get on stage and line up....but he came out and nobody else followed...so he stould there alone for a few seconds...he wasnt sure why nobody else was onstage... he lost his patience and then just started hitting shots. the crowd was into it.
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Sounds like your stereotypical guido.
Lee is at least half Hispanic....not Italian
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Phil dwarfed everybody. HUGE. I sat next to his ex-wife...she was calling him Phillip! "Come on Phillip" lol
I saw Kawak rush in through the lobby right before prejudging. He was in shape. he was the first guy onstage too....the competitors were all supposed to get on stage and line up....but he came out and nobody else followed...so he stould there alone for a few seconds...he wasnt sure why nobody else was onstage... he lost his patience and then just started hitting shots. the crowd was into it.
kawak was still getting punished for doing the NABBA Pro Universe, he got one of those lifetime bans from the IFBB but got back in somehow so he was getting what the WBF guys got. He looked great from the pics I've seen.
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I dont think Flex ever had a visible glute or hamstring striation. How could he be zero percent bodyfat and have soft hams and glutes?
Flex Wheeler
Jim Quinn
Gold's Gym
0.0%
Can't deny the facts ::)
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Flex Wheeler
Jim Quinn
Gold's Gym
0.0%
Can't deny the facts ::)
nor can you deny that Flex had fat on his hams and glutes....so our observations overide Jim Quinn's word.
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Flex Wheeler
Jim Quinn
Gold's Gym
0.0%
Can't deny the facts ::)
alexxx
Mr. Olympia
Getbig.com
Can't deny the "facts". ::)
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nor can you deny that Flex had fat on his hams and glutes....so our observations overide Jim Quinn's word.
your observations are shit. This is common knowledge ::)
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your observations are shit. This is common knowledge ::)
Ok Im now quite sure that you are joking. Nobody could be as foolish are you are pretending to be.
For somebody to have zero fat would be absurd and you know this.
EVERY SINGLE CELL in the human body has a cell membrane made of fat.
No Fat = No Life
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gtbro is the man, and I agree with him 100%
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gtbro is the man, and I agree with him 100%
How can anyone say FLEX WHEELER was out of shape in the 93 olympia?
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Ok Im now quite sure that you are joking. Nobody could be as foolish are you are pretending to be.
For somebody to have zero fat would be absurd and you know this.
EVERY SINGLE CELL in the human body has a cell membrane made of fat.
No Fat = No Life
Are you questioning the ability of Billy Smith to do BF% measurments ???
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Are you questioning the ability of Billy Smith to do BF% measurments ???
ahh that's right...it was Bill Smith who did the measurement...as reported by Jim Quinnduring his comentary for the 1993 Olympia.
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ahh that's right...it was Bill Smith who did the measurement...as reported by Jim Quinnduring his comentary for the 1993 Olympia.
Yes and that Olympia was broadcast on ESPN also!!!