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Title: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Scimowser on February 22, 2007, 01:47:25 PM
am arguing with some idiot on fuckin Youtube of all places about it! He swears he could because, are you ready for this, "it said he could in Muscle and Fitness" ha ha ha

425-440 was probably his heaviest ever 1RM attempts from what i can gather
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Old_Rooster on February 22, 2007, 01:50:22 PM
I did 440 once.  Christ, i was stronger than arnold?  That does it, i'm cracking out my SUPERMAN T-shirt tomorrow!
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Option D on February 22, 2007, 01:51:40 PM
am arguing with some idiot on fuckin Youtube of all places about it! He swears he could because, are you ready for this, "it said he could in Muscle and Fitness" ha ha ha

425-440 was probably his heaviest ever 1RM attempts from what i can gather

I doubt it.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: davidpaul on February 22, 2007, 01:52:13 PM
am arguing with some idiot on fuckin Youtube of all places about it! He swears he could because, are you ready for this, "it said he could in Muscle and Fitness" ha ha ha

425-440 was probably his heaviest ever 1RM attempts from what i can gather


haha, the comments on youtube are gold, u can tell when its a getbigger straight away.

i reckon 450 - 500. for i bouncy rep.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: body88 on February 22, 2007, 01:52:39 PM
Arnold's chest was gigantic. He also had some huge arms. It would not be a stretch to give him 500 for a rep ::) He had a massive bone structure, and was strong. But, since we are talking about Arnold, the detractors will claim he would be lucky to get 225 for a rep, with pecs that looked like balloons.


(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/ga3.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m74.jpg)

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m94.jpg)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Heckler on February 22, 2007, 01:52:50 PM
I did 440 once.

of course you did  ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: benjamin pearson on February 22, 2007, 02:06:51 PM
I did 440 once.  Christ, i was stronger than arnold?  That does it, i'm cracking out my SUPERMAN T-shirt tomorrow!

No one asked how many kids you fucked in a year shit stain
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 22, 2007, 02:15:16 PM
I did 440 once.  Christ, i was stronger than arnold?  That does it, i'm cracking out my SUPERMAN T-shirt tomorrow!
you never did 440, anyway, i agree with Schimowser, Arnold never benched 500.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Bluto on February 22, 2007, 02:19:44 PM
arnold could do whatever he wanted.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: HalloweenMan on February 22, 2007, 02:26:46 PM
cant all weider athletes bench 5 and squat 8?   ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Man of Steel on February 22, 2007, 02:28:44 PM
Arnold once told Johnny Carson on The Tonight Show that his best bench press was 550.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Option D on February 22, 2007, 02:29:43 PM
Arnold once told Johnny Carson on The Tonight Show that his best bench press was 550.
Jesus h christ was that ever a crock
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 22, 2007, 02:30:24 PM
Arnold once told Johnny Carson on The Tonight Show that his best bench press was 550.
hahahahahaa, oh brother. ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Knives on February 22, 2007, 03:17:57 PM
of course you did  ::)

ditto
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: dizzleman06 on February 22, 2007, 03:29:27 PM
I DON'T KNOW... EVERYTIME I SAW HIM IN VIDEOS BENCHING WITH LIKE 335 IT LOOKED LIKE HE WASNT A 500 BENCHER.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: chainsaw on February 22, 2007, 04:31:29 PM
am arguing with some idiot on fuckin Youtube of all places about it! He swears he could because, are you ready for this, "it said he could in Muscle and Fitness" ha ha ha

425-440 was probably his heaviest ever 1RM attempts from what i can gather


I think you and squadfather are right.  I think arnolds arms are to long to handle 500 at his size.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: tommywishbone on February 22, 2007, 04:40:39 PM
Arnold benched 455-475. Touch & go, butt on the bench, solid hand-off. Solid BP... approaching double bodyweight.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Chick on February 22, 2007, 04:41:15 PM
Arnold has 7 Olympia titles that say....WHO CARES?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Pollux on February 22, 2007, 04:44:30 PM
Arnold has 7 Olympia titles that say....WHO CARES?

With 5 Mr. Universe and a Mr. World.  ;)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: IceCold on February 22, 2007, 04:44:45 PM
Arnold has 7 Olympia titles that say....WHO CARES?

and 800 million dollars.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: chainsaw on February 22, 2007, 05:08:41 PM
Arnold has 7 Olympia titles that say....WHO CARES?

Arnold is the Govenor of the largest state in the union.

Arnold says "you still want to talk the olympia?"  Who cares?

Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: ManBearPig... on February 22, 2007, 05:12:21 PM
and 800 million dollars.

7 Olympias!!!
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: dylan_dent on February 22, 2007, 05:19:51 PM
Arnold had arguably one of the biggest egos in BBing history, and his fvucking workout partner was a powerlifter. WTF do you think? He just sat back and conceded to Franco. Get a fvcking clue lol.

I dont want to talk about this again.

D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 22, 2007, 05:29:23 PM
I could believe it, he was on juice.  I did 405 for one at 22years old, natural, looking nothing like Arnold.  He was juicing for years, so im sure he could.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: bmacsys on February 22, 2007, 05:37:24 PM
Hasn't any of you assholes ever read anything Arnold ever wrote? He stated many times his best bench was 460!
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Pollux on February 22, 2007, 05:38:28 PM
Arnold had arguably one of the biggest egos in BBing history

With a kick-ass physique to back it.  8)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on February 22, 2007, 07:25:22 PM
I read in his encyclopedia that he benched 500.

I read in the recent musclemag that he benched 440.

Either way he trained his chest with impecable form and volume plus enthusiasm that not one of the many bodybuilders today dare to replicate.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Rich Gainihger on February 22, 2007, 07:29:08 PM
I read in his encyclopedia that he benched 500.

I read in the recent musclemag that he benched 440.

Either way he trained his chest with impecable form and volume plus enthusiasm that not one of the many bodybuilders today dare to replicate.

ronnie coleman destroys arnold's training.  you have quite the crush on arnold.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on February 22, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
ronnie coleman destroys arnold's training.  you have quite the crush on arnold.

Training wise maybe. Strengthwise yes. Arnold retired at an earlier age then Ronnie even started bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: wolfgang187 on February 22, 2007, 07:50:25 PM
You know chick can put up 500lbs.  Arnold is great, but he is a senior citizen.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: kicker on February 22, 2007, 07:57:41 PM
am arguing with some idiot on fuckin Youtube of all places about it! He swears he could because, are you ready for this, "it said he could in Muscle and Fitness" ha ha ha

425-440 was probably his heaviest ever 1RM attempts from what i can gather

In his bodybuilding encyclopedia, it says he benched 405 for 8 I think.  That would put his 1 rep max in the low 500's, which is believeable.  His pecs, along with biceps were his best bodyparts.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Rich Gainihger on February 22, 2007, 07:57:54 PM
Training wise maybe. Strengthwise yes. Arnold retired at an earlier age then Ronnie even started bodybuilding.

no

Ronnie WON 1990 Mr. Texas at 26.  Arnold competed after 26.

Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Andre Nickatina on February 22, 2007, 08:06:03 PM
IN CASE YOU FORGOT ITS ARNOLD, AND HES FUCKING HUGE
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Option D on February 23, 2007, 07:29:37 AM
epic hams
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Old_Rooster on February 23, 2007, 07:31:45 AM
you never did 440, anyway, i agree with Schimowser, Arnold never benched 500.
Whatever son, you simply don't know the power of ANADROL!  Yeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa aa!  I had a few back zits but i could shove that weight! yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa!
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Petrucci on February 23, 2007, 07:38:55 AM
Hasn't any of you assholes ever read anything Arnold ever wrote? He stated many times his best bench was 460!

i just bought last week the Muscle Mag special edition with like half of the magazine dedicated to Ahhhnold, and if i remember correctly he says exactly this, that his best bench was around 440 or 460 (i can look on the magazine and tell the right number later), and i think he even mentioned that he almost never did singles or 1rp max.
giving the fact this is not a small number and that he was the king of the 'go after the pump!!' i think its a great bench
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on February 23, 2007, 07:45:28 AM
i just bought last week the Muscle Mag special edition with like half of the magazine dedicated to Ahhhnold, and if i remember correctly he says exactly this, that his best bench was around 440 or 460 (i can look on the magazine and tell the right number later), and i think he even mentioned that he almost never did singles or 1rp max.
giving the fact this is not a small number and that he was the king of the 'go after the pump!!' i think its a great bench

It is 440 but I wouldn't doubt him if it turned out to be 500. Either way he was the best and strongest bodybuilder at the time.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on February 23, 2007, 08:02:55 AM
(http://i9.tinypic.com/49lff6b.jpg)

I guess the guy was pretty strong, 500 is believable
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on February 23, 2007, 08:06:36 AM
Franco was stronger, wasn't he?

Yes that is what I heard but Franco followed more of a strength routine that is why his arms where tiny.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Hedgehog on February 23, 2007, 08:11:59 AM
(http://i9.tinypic.com/49lff6b.jpg)

I guess the guy was pretty strong, 500 is believable

Him being a great deadlifter proves nothing about his benchpress.

In fact, it only suggests he's a weak benchpresser, since long limbs are helpful in the deadlift, but hurts the benchpress.

-Hedge
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 23, 2007, 08:14:01 AM
(http://i9.tinypic.com/49lff6b.jpg)

I guess the guy was pretty strong, 500 is believable
hahahahaha, this picture always makes me laugh, since when is 3 45's, 4 25's and some cookies on each side 710 pounds? hahahahaha i guess the bar weighs 200 pounds. ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: razzle on February 23, 2007, 08:19:00 AM
Arnold is the Govenor of the largest state in the union.

Arnold says "you still want to talk the olympia?"  Who cares?

That would be the 3rd largest state in the USA. 1st in population.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: BigNBloated on February 23, 2007, 08:20:28 AM
Arnold has 7 Olympia titles that say....WHO CARES?
Exactly.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on February 23, 2007, 10:27:02 AM
mike katz once wrote a column in MM bout how he watched arnold walk a block in the pouring rain only to walk in the gym 100% dry... untouched i think he said.... "arnold was chosen" .... this story always kinda spooked me
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Condor on February 23, 2007, 10:32:42 AM
mike katz once wrote a column in MM bout how he watched arnold walk a block in the pouring rain only to walk in the gym 100% dry... untouched i think he said.... "arnold was chosen" .... this story always kinda spooked me

I know, that freaked me out when I read that.  Katz was dead serious.

Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Darren Avey on February 23, 2007, 12:30:41 PM
Maybe he had an umbrella?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Condor on February 23, 2007, 12:32:31 PM
Maybe he had an umbrella?

Maybe your dad should've worn a condom.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on February 23, 2007, 01:39:25 PM
lol that some funny stuff.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: bmacsys on February 23, 2007, 03:59:36 PM
mike katz once wrote a column in MM bout how he watched arnold walk a block in the pouring rain only to walk in the gym 100% dry... untouched i think he said.... "arnold was chosen" .... this story always kinda spooked me

Mike Katz is a fucking loser. Believe me I know.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on February 23, 2007, 04:25:13 PM
With the size and thickness of his chest (at his peak) I don't doubt it.. .the man has the best chest bodybuilding has ever seen, hands down.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Condor on February 23, 2007, 05:08:09 PM
Mike Katz is a fucking loser. Believe me I know.

care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: J_Mainero on February 23, 2007, 06:29:04 PM
mike katz once wrote a column in MM bout how he watched arnold walk a block in the pouring rain only to walk in the gym 100% dry... untouched i think he said.... "arnold was chosen" .... this story always kinda spooked me

when I was training to be a buddhist monk at the Dharmshala, I noticed the same phenomenon happen with the Dalai Lama.  He would come in from the rain, and even his sandals would not be wet.  Whenever I tried to ask him how it happened, he would say that such things were unimportant.

And on 90 degree days, we would all be sweating buckets while he didn't sweat a drop. 
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: swilkins1984 on February 23, 2007, 07:01:30 PM
am arguing with some idiot on fuckin Youtube of all places about it! He swears he could because, are you ready for this, "it said he could in Muscle and Fitness" ha ha ha

425-440 was probably his heaviest ever 1RM attempts from what i can gather

If I looked like Arnold I wouldn't care if it was 500 or 5lb weights. Franco said Arnold was a successful powerlifter so I say yes.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: willie mosconi on February 23, 2007, 07:57:04 PM
With the size and thickness of his chest (at his peak) I don't doubt it.. .the man has the best chest bodybuilding has ever seen, hands down.


he had a great chest, but there have been better

Aaron Baker, for one, definitely had a better chest
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: onlyme on February 23, 2007, 07:59:09 PM
Arnold has 7 Olympia titles that say....WHO CARES?

And about $500,000 in total worth.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: J_Mainero on February 23, 2007, 08:00:00 PM
And about $500,000 in total worth.


miss a few zeros there, chief?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Lundgren on February 23, 2007, 08:26:50 PM
Arnolder is a BBer,  Big Bullshitter. He claims to be 6'2" yet he's only 6' he claims to be natural and yet you guys are gonna belive he can actually bench 500. If he could he would of claimed 550.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: J_Mainero on February 23, 2007, 08:27:45 PM


ok lundgrenisgod. you showed us.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: GoneAway on February 23, 2007, 10:45:32 PM
Schimowser, have you seem his chest and arms? Now tell me he couldn't bench 500.

The guy was a powerlifter before turning to BBing. He probably did it in his early 20's, too.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: warma on February 24, 2007, 05:59:15 AM
you are so funny...im 40 years...215lb..way from ripped...my personal best is 410 and it is nothing special....i guess arnold at his best was way stronger  ;D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Ursus on February 24, 2007, 09:36:05 AM
yes i believe it, for reps? no way jose.

lets say when i am 25 i can bench 400 naturally. add juice 100lbs hell yea
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 24, 2007, 09:38:18 AM
yes i believe it, for reps? no way jose.

lets say when i am 25 i can bench 400 naturally. add juice 100lbs hell yea
no on both points, Arnold never benched 500 and as much as i like you Goudy you'll never bench 400.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Ursus on February 24, 2007, 09:44:43 AM
400 will not be a big deal for me. bear in mind i am 20. 1rm is around 350lbs. have 5 years. and am over 6'3. def possible.

oh and for the ppl interested i have started a bbuilding routine properly. fucking sore all over lol
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on February 24, 2007, 09:56:30 AM
i would guess arnolds max was 450lbs or so.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Whiskey on February 24, 2007, 10:18:59 AM
400 will not be a big deal for me. bear in mind i am 20. 1rm is around 350lbs. have 5 years. and am over 6'3. def possible.

oh and for the ppl interested i have started a bbuilding routine properly. fucking sore all over lol
How much do you weigh goudy?

Àny chance of posting a youtube clip of you benching 350?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: bmacsys on February 24, 2007, 10:33:17 AM
care to elaborate?

Try working out off and on in one of his gyms since 1981. He is even more of a wussy than they made him out in Pumping Iron.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Condor on February 24, 2007, 10:39:11 AM
Arnolder is a BBer,  Big Bullshitter. He claims to be 6'2" yet he's only 6' he claims to be natural and yet you guys are gonna belive he can actually bench 500. If he could he would of claimed 550.

you mean all those claims he made in the past weren't true? ::)

Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: onlyme on February 24, 2007, 10:43:36 AM

miss a few zeros there, chief?

I sure did.  I must have been counting what I had in my wallet. ;D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: MisterGX on February 24, 2007, 11:19:13 AM
Yes.  In his younger days ('67-'74), definitely not now.  But does it really matter??
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Ursus on February 24, 2007, 12:36:47 PM
How much do you weigh goudy?

Àny chance of posting a youtube clip of you benching 350?

im 220lbs i have lots of vids on youtube. one of around 310lbsx5 i think aswell.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Scimowser on February 24, 2007, 12:52:16 PM
ive never seen pics or clips of him pressing anything near 500, and what i have seen shows me he never went near that weight. So he had an enormous chest, does that automatically mean he could bench 500? Does it fuck. There have been smaller guys who could so alot MORE than that, but bigger guys who could do nowhere near that. Look passed the muscles and use your brains folks. He was never a 500 bencher
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 24, 2007, 01:27:01 PM
you are so funny...im 40 years...215lb..way from ripped...my personal best is 410 and it is nothing special....i guess arnold at his best was way stronger  ;D
hahahahahaa, another internet poundage liar. ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: BB on February 24, 2007, 02:08:14 PM
I'd believe low to mid 400's for Arnold. If you look at the PL records for lifters in his weight class, most were only maxing in the 450-525 range.

But we are to believe a man who gave up his powerlifting/WL roots early on, was beating men with far more experience? 

Sorry, I'm not buying it.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 24, 2007, 02:09:19 PM
I'd believe low to mid 400's for Arnold. If you look at the PL records for lifters in his weight class, most were only maxing in the 450-525 range.

But we are to believe a man who gave up his powerlifting/WL roots early on, was beating men with far more experience? 

Sorry, I'm not buying it.
what are you talking about? everybody benches 500 on the internet, don't you know that?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on February 24, 2007, 04:53:55 PM
Aren't there pics somewhere of Arnie benching 5 plates a side? (495) ?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 24, 2007, 04:54:19 PM
Aren't there pics somewhere of Arnie benching 5 plates a side? (495) ?

i've never seen any.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on February 24, 2007, 04:55:08 PM
Aren't there pics somewhere of Arnie benching 5 plates a side? (495) ?


Most I ever saw in a pic was 385.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 24, 2007, 06:07:12 PM
Arnold's chest was gigantic. He also had some huge arms. It would not be a stretch to give him 500 for a rep ::) He had a massive bone structure, and was strong. But, since we are talking about Arnold, the detractors will claim he would be lucky to get 225 for a rep, with pecs that looked like balloons.



The "detractors" may be a little more objective, however. Max. somewhere around 425-450.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 24, 2007, 06:08:00 PM
I read in his encyclopedia that he benched 500.



You mean Arnold occasionally makes stuff up?  ;D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 24, 2007, 06:08:57 PM
Training wise maybe. Strengthwise yes. Arnold retired at an earlier age then Ronnie even started bodybuilding.
Only an Arnold maniac would suggest that Ron in his 40s would have an advantage over Arnold in his mid-20s.


Quote
It is 440 but I wouldn't doubt him if it turned out to be 500. Either way he was the best and strongest bodybuilder at the time
How about gettin offa his nuts just once in a while? You ride em hard.  :-\ Never saw anywhere over the years that he got remotely close to 5 plates. Would he still be your hero?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 24, 2007, 06:14:57 PM
Schimowser, have you seem his chest and arms? Now tell me he couldn't bench 500.

The guy was a powerlifter before turning to BBing. He probably did it in his early 20's, too.
This is basic stuff..size like that doesn't immediately equate to big-time strength. He was never known as a particularly strong guy, especially for his weight.


Quote
IN CASE YOU FORGOT ITS ARNOLD, AND HES FUCKING HUGE
You can't tell the difference between a BB and weightlifter.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Whiskey on February 24, 2007, 06:15:59 PM
Arnold no more than 450 tops and even thats being generous.

What i want to know is what was Olivia`s 1 rep max?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 24, 2007, 06:18:09 PM
Arnold no more than 450 tops and even thats being generous.

What i want to know is what was Olivia`s 1 rep max?

Based on the weights shown for his old workouts seemed he had good not great strength, around 500 more or less. Maybe a little stronger but closer to Schwarzenegger, not as strong as Columbu or Sipes who were both smaller guys.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Whiskey on February 24, 2007, 06:23:11 PM
What do you think about reg park pumpster?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 24, 2007, 06:27:16 PM
What do you think about reg park pumpster?

Don't know much about him but from what i remember he had pretty good strength especially considering that it was 50-60s ago before widespread roid use. Size might've related more closely to strength before drugs were a bigger factor.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 24, 2007, 06:28:07 PM
supposedly Reg was one of the first guys to bench 500 pounds 
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 24, 2007, 06:32:47 PM
supposedly Reg was one of the first guys to bench 500 pounds 

Reg Park's cable training system.
http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Park/Cable/park-cable.htm


In 1954 Reg's 500 lb bench press was the first-ever in Europe and he had thus equalled the standard set by the much heavier Doug Hepburn who was at that time world weightlifting champion. As in all sports, with the passing of time standards have gone higher but even today 500lb is a pretty awesome weight.

In 1953 he broke the longstanding British Dumbbell record with a lift of 258 lbs. His training poundages were staggering:


a.. Incline and flat Bench Presses with a pair of 185 lb dumbbells.
b.. Sets of Squats with 510 lbs. Singe repSequat - 600lbs.
c.. Press Behind Neck 300 lbs.
d.. Alternate D.B. presses with a pair of 120's
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: warma on February 24, 2007, 07:21:49 PM
"hahahahahaa, another internet poundage liar......"


no need to lie moron because im not claiming anything special....ind im posting under my own name..unlike you coward...heres my pic...wheres yours???
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 24, 2007, 07:32:44 PM
"hahahahahaa, another internet poundage liar......"


no need to lie moron because im not claiming anything special....ind im posting under my own name..unlike you coward...heres my pic...wheres yours???
hahahahahahahahaha, you're bragging on that body?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: warma on February 24, 2007, 07:37:06 PM
hahahahahahahahaha, you're bragging on that body?
  nooooooo not at all....but i have balls to put my very average pic here unlike you coward ;D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 24, 2007, 07:44:43 PM
  nooooooo not at all....but i have balls to put my very average pic here unlike you coward ;D
calm down fat small tiger, it ain't that serious.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on February 24, 2007, 08:43:42 PM
"hahahahahaa, another internet poundage liar......"


no need to lie moron because im not claiming anything special....ind im posting under my own name..unlike you coward...heres my pic...wheres yours???

hahaha you are making the squadfather cry in shame.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: benjamin pearson on February 24, 2007, 09:32:34 PM
"hahahahahaa, another internet poundage liar......"


no need to lie moron because im not claiming anything special....ind im posting under my own name..unlike you coward...heres my pic...wheres yours???

hahahahah your bragging you look like a pile of shit..... fuck.... and nice stomach hair.... it looks like your pubes are having a race to your neck
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: arce377 on February 24, 2007, 09:34:31 PM
Arnold and Franco, both did 500...
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: dylan_dent on February 24, 2007, 11:34:39 PM
Anyone who thinks there is no way AS could have ever benched 500lbs has NEVER been into a REAL gym. You pukes cant imagine it because youve never seen it in you 24 hour fitness centers. Grow some balls one day and go take a free tour of a gym. Youll see 495 or better thrown up daily, by far less athletes than AS. Oh, and dont wear your hairspray, jewelry, or your new track suit.....youll look like a douche.

D

Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: warma on February 25, 2007, 04:42:57 AM
hahahahah your bragging you look like a pile of shit..... fuck.... and nice stomach hair.... it looks like your pubes are having a race to your neck
  they are getting there ;D    dont wanna spend all my money on razor blades ;)   im wouldnt bragg with that kind physique..but we were talkin about bench press...and i hate people that are talking end bashing everydody but newer reveal themselves
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 25, 2007, 08:25:25 AM
Anyone who thinks there is no way AS could have ever benched 500lbs has NEVER been into a REAL gym. You pukes cant imagine it because youve never seen it in you 24 hour fitness centers. Grow some balls one day and go take a free tour of a gym. Youll see 495 or better thrown up daily, by far less athletes than AS. Oh, and dont wear your hairspray, jewelry, or your new track suit.....youll look like a douche.

D


wow, you sound hardcore, you should send some of your stuff in to Animal Pak.com
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Man of Steel on February 25, 2007, 08:34:43 AM
AHAHAHAHA!!!   Holy shit on toast!  Between "warma" and "dylan_dent" this threads beginning to look like a c'ocksucker convention!   
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Buttsuck on February 25, 2007, 08:34:59 AM
wow, you sound hardcore, you should send some of your stuff in to Animal Pak.com
Hahahahahah he probably has "Its not punishment.." on one arm and "it's revenge" on the other. WAHHHHHHHHHHHH I have im 16 and i hate my father syndrome so i take that out along with all my years of being bullied in highschool out on the weights. Hahahaha what a douche.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 25, 2007, 08:56:00 AM
Anyone who thinks there is no way AS could have ever benched 500lbs has NEVER been into a REAL gym. You pukes cant imagine it because youve never seen it in you 24 hour fitness centers. Grow some balls one day and go take a free tour of a gym. Youll see 495 or better thrown up daily, by far less athletes than AS. Oh, and dont wear your hairspray, jewelry, or your new track suit.....youll look like a douche.

D


Just to clarify then..going to a real gym would allow us to buy the fantasy of Arnold nerds that he could bench 5 wheels?  ???

I'd like to know what happens to these clowns' minds when they realize he wasn't as strong as what's in their fantasies. ;)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: bmacsys on February 25, 2007, 12:22:10 PM
Anyone who thinks there is no way AS could have ever benched 500lbs has NEVER been into a REAL gym. You pukes cant imagine it because youve never seen it in you 24 hour fitness centers. Grow some balls one day and go take a free tour of a gym. Youll see 495 or better thrown up daily, by far less athletes than AS. Oh, and dont wear your hairspray, jewelry, or your new track suit.....youll look like a douche.

D



What a fucking moron. I have seen guys bench 500+ pounds with no bench shirts strictly press that weight.  Let me tell you VERY FEW guys who ever pick up a weight can do it.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Pollux on February 25, 2007, 12:53:25 PM
Arnold and Franco, both did 500...

I love the scene in Pumping Iron when Arnold and Franco are training in the weight pit. Franco is benching 315, Arnold cracks a joke, Franco has that shit resting on his chest all while laughing and pushes it up like nothing.  8)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: MassInMass on February 25, 2007, 03:55:59 PM
Just my two cents...I have met Arnold twice...Once at a grand opening of Planet Hollywood ( just a "Hi,nice to meet you")the second time at a gym that I was training at in Newport R.I.. He was there filming a part for True Lies. Arnold is not 6'2". He is 6'. And , he is not particularly large framed. However...
In regards to him benching 500, I would think absolutely. Not that I can do it, but it is not that impressive. There are a half a dozen guys in my gym that can do that, and I know for fact 2 of them are naturals. Arnold was the "freak" of his time, and I would think that some good strength came with that size.     
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: dylan_dent on February 25, 2007, 08:58:49 PM
Wait, are you calling me a moron?

D


What a fucking moron. I have seen guys bench 500+ pounds with no bench shirts strictly press that weight.  Let me tell you VERY FEW guys who ever pick up a weight can do it.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Theoak* on February 25, 2007, 11:53:20 PM
Just my two cents...I have met Arnold twice...Once at a grand opening of Planet Hollywood ( just a "Hi,nice to meet you")the second time at a gym that I was training at in Newport R.I.. He was there filming a part for True Lies. Arnold is not 6'2". He is 6'. And , he is not particularly large framed. However...
In regards to him benching 500, I would think absolutely. Not that I can do it, but it is not that impressive. There are a half a dozen guys in my gym that can do that, and I know for fact 2 of them are naturals. Arnold was the "freak" of his time, and I would think that some good strength came with that size.     

Naturals who bench 500lbs? Imagined if they juiced they could be benching 800lbs  ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 26, 2007, 12:20:28 AM
Just my two cents...I have met Arnold twice...Once at a grand opening of Planet Hollywood ( just a "Hi,nice to meet you")the second time at a gym that I was training at in Newport R.I.. He was there filming a part for True Lies. Arnold is not 6'2". He is 6'. And , he is not particularly large framed. However...
In regards to him benching 500, I would think absolutely. Not that I can do it, but it is not that impressive. There are a half a dozen guys in my gym that can do that, and I know for fact 2 of them are naturals. Arnold was the "freak" of his time, and I would think that some good strength came with that size.     

In other words, he has no idea and badly wants to believe that his hero can do it.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: rccs on February 26, 2007, 03:13:20 AM
  nooooooo not at all....but i have balls to put my very average pic here unlike you coward ;D
that is true! Squadfart is definetly a coward!
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: rccs on February 26, 2007, 03:17:55 AM
hahahahah your bragging you look like a pile of shit..... fuck.... and nice stomach hair.... it looks like your pubes are having a race to your neck

Hy puppet how are you? Your Master says that it is better to have pubes racing to the neck than having "pubes" racing to the ass, like in your case "Gayjamin".
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: MassInMass on February 26, 2007, 08:15:51 AM
In other words, he has no idea and badly wants to believe that his hero can do it.
Arnold is NOT my hero...I'm just making an observation...I could care less what he used to bench...
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on February 26, 2007, 08:18:49 AM
Arnold is NOT my hero...I'm just making an observation...I could care less what he used to bench...

All conjecture yet you're "absolutely" sure he could've done it. Of course you care.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: local hero on February 26, 2007, 09:30:34 AM
arnold repped with 4 plates per side, dont see how he couldnt force one out with 5... ive got to say i dont see what the big debate is about, most gyms have a few 4 plate benchers,, ive seen 550 benched by a 17st bloke and he wasnt in the same league as arnie physique wise
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: willie mosconi on March 01, 2007, 11:22:02 PM
why would a bodybuilder do a single anyway? It is pointless. It won't build muscle. It risks injury
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: big nick on March 02, 2007, 01:26:09 AM
No doubt here i worked out once in venice with arnold 30 years ago and he was bechin over 500 many times.   Just to finish his workout somedays he would max out with 500 plus.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: tu_holmes on March 02, 2007, 01:44:05 AM
I don't think he did... only reason why I say it is because in "Pumping Iron 2: The Women"

The guy training Bev Francis said "She's as Strong as Arnold"

Bev Francis was a powerlifter, but I don't think she was benching 500... That's just my take on it.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: hangclean on March 02, 2007, 01:59:03 AM
At his best Arnold could probably put up 500.  With all that ciba labs D-bol that they were using back then I bet a lot of them were pushing close to that.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: DVSGOD on March 02, 2007, 02:06:22 AM
Arnold has 7 Olympia titles that say....WHO CARES?
Exactly.
The majority (not including Chick) that are posting in this thread will never reach a quater of the pec mass and shape that Arnold had.
He benched enough to give him the kind of development he had thats all that really needs to be said.

Before he came to the USA I beleive he most proberley did bench 500 or over,he was carrying more BF and was still in that biggest is best mode of thinking not to mention he used to compete in strongman and powerlift meets in Europe,once in the US of A though Arnold concentraited more on refining the mass he had built with HEAVY weights,food and Dinabol.

So in the end who really gives a fuk? Delete this thread and ban the thread starter for such a worthless topic  ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: tu_holmes on March 02, 2007, 02:08:58 AM
Exactly.
The majority (not including Chick) that are posting in this thread will never reach a quater of the pec mass and shape that Arnold had.
He benched enough to give him the kind of development he had thats all that really needs to be said.

Before he came to the USA I beleive he most proberley did bench 500 or over,he was carrying more BF and was still in that biggest is best mode of thinking not to mention he used to compete in strongman and powerlift meets in Europe,once in the US of A though Arnold concentraited more on refining the mass he had built with HEAVY weights,food and Dinabol.

So in the end who really gives a fuk? Delete this thread and ban the thread starter for such a worthless topic  ::)

It's a topic... a conversation... It's a forum... This is what people do.

It's related to bodybuilding and people are commenting... I see no problem with it.

Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: GoneAway on March 02, 2007, 03:54:39 AM
It's true, who really cares. But it's cool to discuss it. ;)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: bmacsys on March 02, 2007, 04:55:06 AM
Exactly.
The majority (not including Chick) that are posting in this thread will never reach a quater of the pec mass and shape that Arnold had.
He benched enough to give him the kind of development he had thats all that really needs to be said.

Before he came to the USA I beleive he most proberley did bench 500 or over,he was carrying more BF and was still in that biggest is best mode of thinking not to mention he used to compete in strongman and powerlift meets in Europe,once in the US of A though Arnold concentraited more on refining the mass he had built with HEAVY weights,food and Dinabol.

So in the end who really gives a fuk? Delete this thread and ban the thread starter for such a worthless topic  ::)


Dude, Arnold stated in his own book he benched 460 and he was into building muscles not lifting heavy in itself.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: dylan_dent on March 02, 2007, 09:30:14 AM
I feel sorry for you queef-licks that live in a cave. Someone post a pic of Arnold, when he was bulked up. Then tell me he couldnt have hoisted 5 wheels. Ill post it again, even though I said I wouldnt....

Arnold had arguably one of the biggest egos in BBing history, and his fvucking workout partner was a powerlifter. WTF do you think? He just sat back and conceded to Franco. Get a fvcking clue lol.

I dont want to talk about this again.

D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on March 02, 2007, 11:04:09 AM
No natural can bench 500+ pounds.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 11:06:10 AM
arnold repped with 4 plates per side, dont see how he couldnt force one out with 5... ive got to say i dont see what the big debate is about, most gyms have a few 4 plate benchers,, ive seen 550 benched by a 17st bloke and he wasnt in the same league as arnie physique wise

Dude, that's now vs. more than 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 11:06:43 AM
No doubt here i worked out once in venice with arnold 30 years ago and he was bechin over 500 many times.   Just to finish his workout somedays he would max out with 500 plus.

Sure buddy. ;)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 11:07:54 AM
I feel sorry for you queef-licks that live in a cave. Someone post a pic of Arnold, when he was bulked up. Then tell me he couldnt have hoisted 5 wheels. Ill post it again, even though I said I wouldnt....

Arnold had arguably one of the biggest egos in BBing history, and his fvucking workout partner was a powerlifter. WTF do you think? He just sat back and conceded to Franco. Get a fvcking clue lol.

I dont want to talk about this again.

D


Good, because you have nothing other than hope that your hero can satisfy your fantasy.

This is hilarious all the kids on here who are "sure" he could do it when the reality is that it was probably somewhere around 450 give or take a few lb.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: hillbilly on March 02, 2007, 11:08:58 AM
am arguing with some idiot on fuckin Youtube of all places about it! He swears he could because, are you ready for this, "it said he could in Muscle and Fitness" ha ha ha

425-440 was probably his heaviest ever 1RM attempts from what i can gather

i've saw a guy in my gym bench 405 for 2 a while back and he wasnt even that big, so do i think the Mr O with one of the best chests in the history of the sport cud bench 500?? well i am suprised it wasnt more!
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 11:10:33 AM
i've saw a guy in my gym bench 405 for 2 a while back and he wasnt even that big, so do i think the Mr O with one of the best chests in the history of the sport cud bench 500?? well i am suprised it wasnt more!

Another beginner on a BB site who doesn't comprehend the difference between training for development vs. strength. You're mired in desperate hopes and projections involving your hero. Dream on. :D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: hillbilly on March 02, 2007, 11:12:10 AM
Another beginner on a BB site who doesn't comprehend the difference between training for development vs. strength. Dream on.

watever! i know there not the same thing but u do have to have some strength to have a big chest  ::)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: pumpster on March 02, 2007, 11:14:39 AM
watever! i know there not the same thing but u do have to have some strength to have a big chest  ::)

Your assumptions are weak. You have no basis for your desperate hope re: Arnold. ;D


Hope this helps
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: hillbilly on March 02, 2007, 11:31:53 AM
lol

well i have this to go on

Arnold had an amazing chest
There are BBs with smaller chests with a much bigger bench
He must have been able to lift big weights to look like that

i agree BBs arnt often as strong as they look, but i dont think 500 is that impressive for a guy who had his level of development

hope this helps  ;D
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on March 02, 2007, 11:37:16 AM
lol

well i have this to go on

Arnold had an amazing chest
There are BBs with smaller chests with a much bigger bench
He must have been able to lift big weights to look like that

i agree BBs arnt often as strong as they look, but i dont think 500 is that impressive for a guy who had his level of development

hope this helps  ;D

Stop flirting with pumpster!
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: dylan_dent on March 02, 2007, 11:38:29 AM
Im 32, and have trained half of my life. Im sure youre the "kid" compared to me. And AS isnt my hero in any sense of the word. If anything I insulted him with the super ego comment.

But you laugh at us that are SURE he could do it, and youre equally as SURE that he couldnt. Jackass. lol

D


Good, because you have nothing other than hope that your hero can satisfy your fantasy.

This is hilarious all the kids on here who are "sure" he could do it when the reality is that it was probably somewhere around 450 give or take a few lb.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: hillbilly on March 02, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
Stop flirting with pumpster!

oh god your still here then  ::)

 ;D hows things goin with u?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on March 02, 2007, 11:39:39 AM
oh god your still here then  ::)

 ;D hows things goin with u?

Stick with pumpster he'll keep you happy. ;)
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: hillbilly on March 02, 2007, 11:46:07 AM
Stick with pumpster he'll keep you happy. ;)

are you speaking from experience Alexxx?
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: alexxx on March 02, 2007, 11:47:57 AM
are you speaking from experience Alexxx?

Yes. I always enjoy his posts that are such a mess you wouldn't know wether he is typing with his fingers or toes.
Title: Re: Does anybody honestly believe Arnold could bench 500?
Post by: DVSGOD on March 02, 2007, 01:59:11 PM

Dude, Arnold stated in his own book he benched 460 and he was into building muscles not lifting heavy in itself.
Re Read my post ,I agree with you ,but in his early years he did compete in power lifting and strong man comps,Iv just pulled out one of my early Arnold mags that was produced by M & F it complies alot of Arnolds writings,On his chest development it states 
Quote
At my best ,Ive done 500pound bench press

If you look at pics of a young arnold you will see he has spent alot of time on the big lifts,it was only after comming to the states that he concentrated on refinement