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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: delta9mda on March 16, 2007, 11:45:00 AM
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well, give us your mass principles big guy
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Same Principles Apply.
I have gained about 3-4 lbs of Muscle this year.
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i thought 48 ounces was the limit for natty, explain
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You would also note,
THE TOP LIFETIME NATURAL BODYBUILDERS Stay under 8 percent bodyfat year round, operating and gaining muscle out of a deficit.
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THIS will be the defining moment of the adonis principles.
When buttsuck and other clients are able to not only get lean, but to then GAIN MUSCLE by eating whatever they want.
This will be interesting!
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you didnt answer the question, 48 ounces
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Not a limit.
Its an average amount. Read more Carefully.
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its all about the time density of your training. only the super elite like myself can do sets of 8 with only 10 seconds rest between sets over 20 sets then resting and repeating again for another bodypart
i beleive johnny falcon can do double the amount of sets that i do for he is far more focused than anyone, he doesnt quit when it burns to bad he takes his 10 second rest between sets and seems to go on forever with 8 reps and 10 second rest estimated around 50 sets per bodypart
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THIS will be the defining moment of the adonis principles.
When buttsuck and other clients are able to not only get lean, but to then GAIN MUSCLE by eating whatever they want.
This will be interesting!
yeah, bc only a few pros like kevin and gunter can get bigger and leaner at the same time using a lot of gear.
but now, there are 3 "naturals", DW, TA, and buttstick that can do the same.
::)
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yeah, bc only a few pros like kevin and gunter can get bigger and leaner at the same time using a lot of gear.
but now, there are 3 "naturals", DW, TA, and buttstick that can do the same.
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Try Looking at some LIFETIME NATURALS such as Brian Whitacre, Kurt Wiedner and many others who stay under 8 percent year round.
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Try Looking at some LIFETIME NATURALS such as Brian Whitacre, Kurt Wiedner and many others who stay under 8 percent year round.
do they get bigger from year to year or do they just stay the same?
using clen, t3, dnp, and gh doesnt make you a natural.
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THIS will be the defining moment of the adonis principles.
When buttsuck and other clients are able to not only get lean, but to then GAIN MUSCLE by eating whatever they want.
This will be interesting!
well there is the caveat of if they really are naturals. Unless there is a drug test we will never know for sure. And there will always be rumours.
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Go to www.ocbbodybuilding.com
You will see the pros there, stay under 8 percent or lower year round.
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THIS will be the defining moment of the adonis principles.
When buttsuck and other clients are able to not only get lean, but to then GAIN MUSCLE by eating whatever they want.
This will be interesting!
most people wont be able to gain cause they think heavy ass weights will get them big
billy jo benches 225 for 5 sets of 8 resting a minute or 2 between sets, he wont get much of a burn resting that long or a pump, only if he hasnt benched in a week perhaps and his muscles are stale
ricky screwdie starts out with 135 does it 30 times on first set ever rep controled from there on out resting only 10 seconds between sets eventually ONLY barely using 95 pounds maybe going down to 80 sometimes resting 15 seconds MAX. completed 35-40 sets ricky will get a shitload more sore even if hes working chest everyother day he will be sore everytime and notice different fibers popping out in his chest and have the most INTENSE burn while working out, it will be PAINFUL the lactic acid burn
ricky trains much like daddywaddy that is why we are superior to the heavy benchers taking there sweet time
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most people wont be able to gain cause they think heavy ass weights will get them big
billy jo benches 225 for 5 sets of 8 resting a minute or 2 between sets, he wont get much of a burn resting that long or a pump, only if he hasnt benched in a week perhaps and his muscles are stale
ricky screwdie starts out with 135 does it 30 times on first set ever rep controled from there on out resting only 10 seconds between sets eventually ONLY barely using 95 pounds maybe going down to 80 sometimes resting 15 seconds MAX. completed 35-40 sets ricky will get a shitload more sore even if hes working chest everyother day he will be sore everytime and notice different fibers popping out in his chest and have the most INTENSE burn while working out, it will be PAINFUL the lactic acid burn
ricky trains much like daddywaddy that is why we are superior to the heavy benchers taking there sweet time
those workouts sound absolutely retarted.
what are you tearing down to rebuild?
how are you activating any genes for growth with that kinda workout (how and why high volume works - for some)?
do this 'naturals' have gyno like yourself?
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Here is another Great Lifetime Natural.
Here is what I am talking about staying lean Year Round.
http://franco_j.tripod.com/2006propics.html
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Here is the Aforementioned Bodybuilder most recent comment on diet:
Joe F Today, 10:50 AM Post #10
Group: Members
Posts: 833
Joined: 8-August 03
From: Bucks County, PA
Member No.: 124
I agree with Layne and to take it a step further, many guru's need to make their mark by coming up with something. Sure his idea's may work for some, but the bottom line is calories.
Not to bash anyone, but I get so tired of new tricks and food combo's that promise a lot. My advice is to keep the diet simple and focus on the total amount of calories.
Sorry if I am off base, I just had a twp clients this week looking for the magic pill for their contest prep and tend to forget the basics.
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Joe F.
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those workouts sound absolutely retarted.
what are you tearing down to rebuild?
how are you activating any genes for growth with that kinda workout (how and why high volume works - for some)?
do this 'naturals' have gyno like yourself?
my foolish son! I am the MASTER hahaha let me teach you something laddy "tearing to rebuild" .you say? no, when you workout with my routine you see changes after all the sets , you see my boy the muscles when worked under extreme conditions swell with blood/tear opening up new passage ways /muscle fibers may be ever so slightly out of place because of these conditions. this is "growth" or muscle shaping. you wouldnt know, i have yet to see anyone train in the 10 seconds of rest fashion doing sets of 8.. 99 percent of of trainers train EXACTLY the same of course using more weight from person to person, but the all have PLENTY of rest between sets 25 seconds is far too much rest between sets even.
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my foolish son! I am the MASTER hahaha let me teach you something laddy "tearing to rebuild" .you say? no, when you workout with my routine you see changes after all the sets , you see my boy the muscles when worked under extreme conditions swell with blood/tear opening up new passage ways /muscle fibers may be ever so slightly out of place because of these conditions. this is "growth" or muscle shaping. you wouldnt know, i have yet to see anyone train in the 10 seconds of rest fashion doing sets of 8.. 99 percent of of trainers train EXACTLY the same of course using more weight from person to person, but the all have PLENTY of rest between sets 25 seconds is far too much rest between sets even.
sounds like your whole workout is just 1 big drop set?
how do you get stronger?
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Here is another Great Lifetime Natural.
Here is what I am talking about staying lean Year Round.
http://franco_j.tripod.com/2006propics.html
Looks like this gentleman added in some Winstrol towards the end.
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Here is another Great Lifetime Natural.
Here is what I am talking about staying lean Year Round.
http://franco_j.tripod.com/2006propics.html
impressive!
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sounds like your whole workout is just 1 big drop set?
how do you get stronger?
after 30 sets or so back to back you cant even do 80 pounds that is when you work another bodypart
then after that bodypart go back to working chest again, your strength will have regained some...
i dont test "strength" from workout to workout, its all about how i look , how many sets i can complete...
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Go to www.ocbbodybuilding.com
You will see the pros there, stay under 8 percent or lower year round.
I found this rather interesting in the 'drug testing' section of the site..
"Prescription Diuretics (cannot have been used within 3 weeks of contest date):
Diuretics including, but not limited to: "
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after 30 sets or so back to back you cant even do 80 pounds that is when you work another bodypart
then after that bodypart go back to working chest again, your strength will have regained some...
i dont test "strength" from workout to workout, its all about how i look , how many sets i can complete...
hence the term bodybuilding....this guy who you quoted is worried about strength
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after 30 sets or so back to back you cant even do 80 pounds that is when you work another bodypart
then after that bodypart go back to working chest again, your strength will have regained some...
i dont test "strength" from workout to workout, its all about how i look , how many sets i can complete...
obviously, you wont get any stronger.
but if i were to bench 135 for 20 reps, rest 8 seconds, and do 7 more sets like that, i would have a tremendous pump, but i dont think i would have done anything significant for growth.
this workout may work for you, but is it the workout of those "things" that cause your gyno?
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hence the term bodybuilding....this guy who you quoted is worried about strength
for me gaining strength was all about eatin 10,000 calories a day, training isnt as important when you have that many calories in you
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most people wont be able to gain cause they think heavy ass weights will get them big
billy jo benches 225 for 5 sets of 8 resting a minute or 2 between sets, he wont get much of a burn resting that long or a pump, only if he hasnt benched in a week perhaps and his muscles are stale
ricky screwdie starts out with 135 does it 30 times on first set ever rep controled from there on out resting only 10 seconds between sets eventually ONLY barely using 95 pounds maybe going down to 80 sometimes resting 15 seconds MAX. completed 35-40 sets ricky will get a shitload more sore even if hes working chest everyother day he will be sore everytime and notice different fibers popping out in his chest and have the most INTENSE burn while working out, it will be PAINFUL the lactic acid burn
ricky trains much like daddywaddy that is why we are superior to the heavy benchers taking there sweet time
I stopped reading after you put that a guy benches 225 for 5 sets. Obviously this person doesn't know the first thing about training or overload so of course he's gonna look like garbage. If this is what you think heavy training is then you gots yoursefl a problem.
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obviously, you wont get any stronger.
but if i were to bench 135 for 20 reps, rest 8 seconds, and do 7 more sets like that, i would have a tremendous pump, but i dont think i would have done anything significant for growth.
this workout may work for you, but is it the workout of those "things" that cause your gyno?
thats great im glad you dont think you will get any growth. another way to not grow is your current workout routine
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I stopped reading after you put that a guy benches 225 for 5 sets. Obviously this person doesn't know the first thing about training or overload so of course he's gonna look like garbage. If this is what you think heavy training is then you gots yoursefl a problem.
its ok you dont have to be a bodybuilder , you can always tell your mother and brother you lift for 'strength' and that is why you are fatyo :D
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Daddywaddy, its not even worth it trying to explain to these people.
They are beneath you.
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Daddywaddy, its not even worth it trying to explain to these people.
They are beneath you.
doing charity work here
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Someone find a natural ripped t 215-220 at about 6 feet.
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Someone find a natural ripped t 215-220 at about 6 feet.
You won`t.
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Someone find a natural ripped t 215-220 at about 6 feet.
you good mum as a nice rip, at about 250 6feet
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its ok you dont have to be a bodybuilder , you can always tell your mother and brother you lift for 'strength' and that is why you are fatyo :D
I could get into the whole muscles grow from overload thing with ya but I have a feeling it would be a waste of time. You can have your opinion and I'll have mine.
Daddywaddy, its not even worth it trying to explain to these people.
They are beneath you.
I'm sure you wish you were beneath him right now :D :D :D
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I am natural
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I could get into the whole muscles grow from overload thing with ya but I have a feeling it would be a waste of time. You can have your opinion and I'll have mine.
ok my son i will allow you to believe what you wish
yes! im sure you are great at muscle gayning with your overloading at each workout you must be up to a 1000 by now.
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ok my son i will allow you to believe what you wish
yes! im sure you are great at muscle gayning with your overloading at each workout you must be up to a 1000 by now.
1000 what? Pounds on the legpress? nahhhh...I'm at about 900.
you can keep with your muscle gayning program, I'm not even trying to argue with you. I don't have hours and hours to spend in the gym so I do what I feel is most effective in the shortest amount of time. Once you get a job you'll see the same thing.
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1000 what? Pounds on the legpress? nahhhh...I'm at about 900.
you can keep with your muscle gayning program, I'm not even trying to argue with you. I don't have hours and hours to spend in the gym so I do what I feel is most effective in the shortest amount of time. Once you get a job you'll see the same thing.
50 sets 2 exercises 5 minutes rest between exercises 10 seconds rest between sets of 8 repetitions should only take an hour to complete
you would spend an hour completed 12 sets since you are a sloth
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50 sets 2 exercises 5 minutes rest between exercises 10 seconds rest between sets of 8 repetitions should only take an hour to complete
you would spend an hour completed 12 sets since you are a sloth
DW, why are you trying to start trouble with me? I didn't disagree with anything you've said, I just said you don't understand overload. If what you're doing is working than more power to you.
you don't even have a job and you're calling me a sloth? c'mon now. Move out of the basement and get on with your life and then you can call a guy like me a sloth.
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DW, why are you trying to start trouble with me? I didn't disagree with anything you've said, I just said you don't understand overload. If what you're doing is working than more power to you.
you don't even have a job and you're calling me a sloth? c'mon now. Move out of the basement and get on with your life and then you can call a guy like me a sloth.
laddy boy i just got off work
you are convinced that you know what you are talking about, but now its time to listen to daddywaddys methods and the adonis principles. and stop melting down for jesus sakes
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you good mum as a nice rip, at about 250 6feet
Um i dont know what that means
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adonis can lose fat, but can he gain muscle?
No.
Thanks for asking though.
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laddy boy i just got off work
you are convinced that you know what you are talking about, but now its time to listen to daddywaddys methods and the adonis principles. and stop melting down for jesus sakes
cleaning up the pop machine at 7-11 isn't a real job :D
I haven't melted down once, I dont' think I've ever even been a dick to you or at least not lately...what are you getting so worked up about? We had this conversation a few months ago and we agreed to disagree.
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Yea he is huge. Great muscles here. I can't believe how much muscle he has. ::) He is skin and bones. ANYONE this skinny would look like him.
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honest question for you TA:
back when you were getting ready for the MGB you said you had not lost any muscle, I asked how you knew and if you had taken a LBM test to determine if you had indeed lost any muscle. I might be wrong but you said they were a joke or something like that....bottom lining it: how do you know you gained 4lbs of muslce?
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Yea he is huge. Great muscles here. I can't believe how much muscle he has. ::) He is skin and bones. ANYONE this skinny would look like him.
Wrong.... ive be 140 fat before.
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Wrong.... ive be 140 fat before.
how much do you weigh now?
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Wrong.... ive be 140 fat before.
Wow you forgot to log out. Epic Apenis ownage by answering. Good job, you gave yourself away again.
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Wow you forgot to log out. Epic Apenis ownage by answering. Good job, you gave yourself away again.
damn i didn't notice that..... lmao
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Someone find a natural ripped t 215-220 at about 6 feet.
You rang?
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those workouts sound absolutely retarted.
what are you tearing down to rebuild?
how are you activating any genes for growth with that kinda workout (how and why high volume works - for some)?
do this 'naturals' have gyno like yourself?
Thats how you do an old school work out. You suck
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Same Principles Apply.
I have gained about 3-4 lbs of Muscle this year.
liar.
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its all about the time density of your training. only the super elite like myself can do sets of 8 with only 10 seconds rest between sets over 20 sets then resting and repeating again for another bodypart
i love this guy :D :D :D :D worth every min here :D
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thats great im glad you dont think you will get any growth. another way to not grow is your current workout routine
seriously, you are extremely delusional, esp. agreeing with adonis.
research and 60 years of bbing (going back to reeves, etc.) has prooved you wrong.
i do agree with you that a fast/moderate pace of working out is best and you'll look the best doing that.
but, you still havent answered why someone as lean as yourself, and as natural as yourself has gyno?
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That is a famous statue too. SO he should feel proud to be the perfect model for it.