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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Lugar on March 30, 2007, 06:48:05 AM
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I really want to know what it takes to compete. It's a lifetime goal of mine, and at 30 I am wondering if it's too late. Especially, given my current size and strength (6'2, 170 and 10%).....I am now finally on HRT at approx. 250mg so that should be a big piece. Would LOVE to hear from those who have done it and do it and if I'm on the right track for maybe two years.
I need to get to 230 and stay under 12%, that way I can cut to 205 or so.
I have increased my cals to 4K, all clean Monday through Friday and then whatever isnt nailed down on the weekends.
My cardio is limited to just 1 session a week for 30 minutes (is this ok, do I need more???)
I train as heavy and as intense as possible 5 days a week. I will NEVER miss a session unless dealthy ill.
I get a good 8 hours of sleep a day, usually more, but I usually wake up at midnight starving, so I grab some veggies and some protein.
I don't drink, period.
I smoke maybe a bowl at night 5x a week (never more never any other other time) after training to help me consume more cals (else I'd be too sick to eat, due to training)
My stress level is mild, work relaed only but I leave it at the office (I sit all day and rest)
I use NO OTHER rec drugs. I was using ONE vicodine tab a day for a good year, so I was addicted, but I havent touched one in many many months.
I have tried coke and nubain 1 time. Nothing else.
I will prob. consume an average of a glass or wo of wine NOW, at night as I have heard good things.
No other booze and I havent sarted this yet.
I will be on gear for a long time (maybe ry to come off hr in he future) but this will help me eat more.
I plan to jump start on a cycle now since I have the resources and maybe 2-3 a year always going back o hrt dose.
Tbal at 40mg
eq at 400mg
test at 600mg
npp at 400mg all for 16 weeks starting monday and tbol for first four.
I would like to stay under 12%, and will do so. Keeping abs, what does it take? Also have some tren,prop maseton blend to use down the line to cut hard to 6% and then increase cardio decrease cals.
Diet is 50,30, 20 split, c/p/f.........am I missing anything, right mentality??
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You are a very strange person.
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Since it's pretty mild I'd take the Tbol for half your cycle (i.e. eight weeks).
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I train as heavy and as intense as possible 5 days a week. I will NEVER miss a session unless dealthy ill.
That's fine & all but remember to listen to your body. If it's telling you that you need a rest then take a few days off (even on cycle). If you push yourself too hard & too far you're going risk getting sick, overtraining, & injury.
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You are a very strange person.
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Thanks.....and you never offer any decent advice.........Anyone out there who competes?
Rim - I've heard your repsonse, you haven't been there either......that's really what I'm looking for.......I realize you are trying to help, but looking for some information....thanks.
Oh and your post with the bars question - no need to respond twice, just beause they were free doesnt mean jack man.....so I can get free cheesecake, does that mean eat it.........
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Rim - I've heard your repsonse, you haven't been there either......that's really what I'm looking for.......I realize you are trying to help, but looking for some information....thanks.
What do you mean?
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How long are you intending to be on steroids?
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rim....shhhhh! give others a chance
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Thanks.....and you never offer any decent advice.........Anyone out there who competes?
Yeah, I've only helped you on all 900 of your questions on each forum!...lol
I've competed in bodybuilding as a natural. which is why i choose not to give you any advice on the subject or any subject in the future.
i just like to dissect your redundant questions that you've already asked 5 times.
Good luck champ!
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Thanks.....and you never offer any decent advice.........Anyone out there who competes?
Rim - I've heard your repsonse, you haven't been there either......that's really what I'm looking for.......I realize you are trying to help, but looking for some information....thanks.
Oh and your post with the bars question - no need to respond twice, just beause they were free doesnt mean jack man.....so I can get free cheesecake, does that mean eat it.........
If you don't want the free cheescake I'll take it....mmmmmmmmmm cheesecake...great for the offseason.
First off I'd like to welcome you to the next step.....
Your diet shoud be in check for sure, before you start you training for a contest know what your body reacts to as far as food. Bloating and such is always a huge issue...
EQ will give you the munchies galore so you proabably won't need to smoke to eat. Just remember if you want your body weight to stay to a minimal, that you are eating no garbage.
Closer to contest time your cardio amount will so have to increase in days wise...
I would go 50/30/20 protein/carbs/fat
What kind of test are you using...primo is the best for lean mass...well it has been for me, stacked with EQ...can you say onfire.
Those are the first things that come to mind as they increase I'll add them in...
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rim....shhhhh! give others a chance
::) Anyone is free to respond. I'm responding because I have a window open with getbig on it. So I just responded. If you noticed
I've responded to about four threads in about ten minutes.
One more thing. If you were trying to imply that I don't know how to prep for a contest I suppose you're only half right. I'd be the wrong person to ask about what to do in the week or two before a show (I don't compete 7 I doubt I ever will - I've got too many tattoos & after reading the rules for the NPC I guess you're graded down for them). But I know quite a bit about exercise & dieting. I've been able to diet & exercise myself down to the single bodyfat digits before.
BTW - my offer still stands. If you compete in two years & I'm still living where I'm at now I'll attend the show. That depends on you keeping it cool on the boards.
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::) Anyone is free to respond. I'm responding because I have a window open with getbig on it. So I just responded. If you noticed
I've responded to about four threads in about ten minutes.
One more thing. If you were trying to imply that I don't know how to prep for a contest I suppose you're only half right. I'd be the wrong person to ask about what to do in the week or two before a show (I don't compete 7 I doubt I ever will - I've got too many tattoos & after reading the rules for the NPC I guess you're graded down for them). But I know quite a bit about exercise & dieting. I've been able to diet & exercise myself down to the single bodyfat digits before.
This guy changes ideas like i change underwear...
It's a complete waste of time and effort to even try to help.
I know you are a cool guy who likes to help but it's pointless.
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I know you are a cool guy who likes to help but it's pointless.
I know you're probably right but it's my nature to keep trying to help others - I guess it because of what I do for a living.
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This guy changes ideas like i change underwear...
It's a complete waste of time and effort to even try to help.
I know you are a cool guy who likes to help but it's pointless.
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change ideas??? BULLSHIT! I've wanted to do this for as long as I can remember....yes, some ?s are redundant, but only because Im a perfectionist.....my one confusion right now is this, will I be able to stay lean (and by lean I mean able to see some ab outline) without the cardio.......then, my goal is right on....
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I highly doubt it, you will most likely retain some water
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Lugar, You still never answered how long will your cycle be?
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I highly doubt it, you will most likely retain some water
doubt that i can stay under 10-12??
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Well, you want to gain 50 pounds...I say that will take you 3 cycles for sure. And to get to 6% and still be about 210, maybe 4 cycles. That means it will be 2 years until you may be able to compete......
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I really want to know what it takes to compete. It's a lifetime goal of mine, and at 30 I am wondering if it's too late. Especially, given my current size and strength (6'2, 170 and 10%).....I am now finally on HRT at approx. 250mg so that should be a big piece. Would LOVE to hear from those who have done it and do it and if I'm on the right track for maybe two years.
It's never too late...some guys never do a show until they are in their 40's and they do fine. I know a guy who did his first show at 40 and one the over all in the open. I say find a show you want to do, say one year from now, bulk up as much as you can for the next 8 months and then diet down for the show.
I need to get to 230 and stay under 12%, that way I can cut to 205 or so.
Don't worry so much about weight, worry about what you look like. After all, it's not like you're going to be competing in the Olympia...just put on quality size, and worry about conditioning...this is the biggest factor.
My cardio is limited to just 1 session a week for 30 minutes (is this ok, do I need more???)
If your gains are coming and you're not getting too fat, then it's fine.
I get a good 8 hours of sleep a day, usually more, but I usually wake up at midnight starving, so I grab some veggies and some protein.
If you want the veggies fine, but a better choice or added nutrient would be adding some extra good fats.
I don't drink, period.
Yes you do, wine is drinking.
I smoke maybe a bowl at night 5x a week (never more never any other other time) after training to help me consume more cals (else I'd be too sick to eat, due to training)
I don't like this, it's unnecessary IMO.
I will prob. consume an average of a glass or wo of wine NOW, at night as I have heard good things.
No other booze and I havent sarted this yet.
Like I said, wine is alcohol and should not be a regular part of any BB diet. There are some good health benefits to moderate alcohol consumption, but for a BB the negative out weighs the positive. Alcohol destroys muscle tissue and it slows down the metabolism. 4oz of alcohol takes the body 72hrs for it to reach it's previous metabolic rate, assuming no more was consumed. Obviously the damage done greatly depends on how much alcohol is consumed. I'm not saying you can never drink, but regardless, it should be a rare occurrence, and absolutely never ever when dieting...not 1oz.
I plan to jump start on a cycle now since I have the resources and maybe 2-3 a year always going back o hrt dose.
Tbal at 40mg
eq at 400mg
test at 600mg
npp at 400mg all for 16 weeks starting monday and tbol for first four.
Drop the NPP, things like test, deca, eq, tren, HGH, IGF-1, should be make up your cycles. If you like orals, dbol will put on more size but all in all I'm not a big oral fan.
Diet is 50,30, 20 split, c/p/f.........am I missing anything, right mentality??
Less carbs more fat.
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now those are some great posts and the help I needed. bulk my ass off keep it clean m thru fri and endulge a little on the weekends. 4k in clean cals and do cardio only when fueled and 1x a week or on an off day. ill add some good nuts almonds cashews or something late night too.....how is muscle milk? this all will keep me lean eight wo cardio? I know I'm not gonna be shreded but I will be come contest time.
why do I want to drop the npp? I just got it. how bout if I just use it foor cycle numero uno?
I know this is a r yr plan so I got a good year of hardcore bulking.....i should be able to get to 200 if u guys keep on my ass.
be my coaches and ill fly all u in for a huge post contest party.
I know bout the booze. trust me. 1 or 2 a week max. 10 glasses of wine a mnth max. I want to eat most my cals.
I just am so used to doing cardio daily which I think fucked me upl
also I got these free cases of musclemilk and eas shakes bars....use em? thanks boys for all your help.
explain how testost. supp keeps u lean and big n strong?
also anyone know bout anavar? no I'm not getting it...but a buddy asked me bout it....does it eat fat? would 20mg a dqy do anything for someone cutting?
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Thanks.....and you never offer any decent advice.........Anyone out there who competes?
Columbus.. you know who i am.
..So hear what i have to say.
You know you'll never be anywhere near where you 'need to be' to 'compete'.
Namely because your stiffest competitor has already beaten you.
..that person being yourself.
You can't stick to a routine.
You can't accept advice.. because your personality drowns out the voices of others.
You can't..and won't be able to compete EVER.
..unless you drown that voice out.
..For that, i think you need psychological help.
No flame intended.. but no apologies either.
-Narkissos
Owner of:
Apollo Fitness Inc.
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also anyone know bout anavar? no I'm not getting it...but a buddy asked me bout it....does it eat fat? would 20mg a dqy do anything for someone cutting?
I know you're sick of hearing from me but I don't care. Like I've told you before believe it or not I do try & help you. Even though you either ignore it or give me a start ass answer/response.
Anavar has been shown to lower bodyfat some (but I wouldn't bother with it if I were you - because you're bulking). At 20mg you're "buddy" might get a little stronger & appear more vascular. Remember it would also depend on how that particular person responds to the drug & who made the drug (i.e. UG labs etc).
You still refuse to answer how long you'll be on cycle. Why?
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also I got these free cases of musclemilk and eas shakes bars....use em? thanks boys for all your help.
I don't see anything wrong with the Muscle Milk. It would be helpful for you to reach your daily calorie goal(s).
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I know bout the booze. trust me. 1 or 2 a week max. 10 glasses of wine a mnth max. I want to eat most my cals.
Here's where I differ from most. If you want to have a drink, that's fine. If you're well rested & hydrated properly it won't hurt you. However, you need to stop at one. & please DO NOT drink anything at all if you're taking orals of any kind there's no need to put extra stress on you liver. If you want the benefits of wine & you're taking orals then drink some grape juice.
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I am seeing a therapist biweekly. 6 sessions so far. thought u knew that. can't u tell??? How else could I be eating 4k with noooooo cardio? I use to do cardio every am, now u tell me to skip it until I'm 190 lbs.
That's very hard for esp. when my abs are gone.....i got pics as of today........ill post em
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now those are some great posts and the help I needed. bulk my ass off keep it clean m thru fri and endulge a little on the weekends. 4k in clean cals and do cardio only when fueled and 1x a week or on an off day.
Whatever you do, don't over-complicate things. I always think that even for a naturally lean guy, it's still a good idea to eat relatively clean while bulking, but there is no reason to get anal about it in the off-season. Now if you were someone like me who puts on size fairly easily, both the good and the bad kinds, then you definitely have to be a little more carefull. Your plan to eat clean during the wk and indulge on the wk end is fine, but if you get the urge to eat something a little "dirtier" during the wk, I doubt it would hurt
someone like you. Through it all, use the mirror and a good set of eyes to judge your progress...find someone who is more experienced who can look at you periodically to give you good critique...our own eyes can be very deceiving.
ill add some good nuts almonds cashews or something late night too.....how is muscle milk? this all will keep me lean eight wo cardio? I know I'm not gonna be shreded but I will be come contest time.
Again, stop worrying so much about staying "lean." Right now this is not a problem. I'm not saying get fat, but as long as you keep fretting over your abs, your progress is going to be hindered. As for the nuts, raw almonds would be the best choice. Any nut or legume is fine, they just need to be raw if you're going to get the full nutritional value. As for the muscle milk, I love the taste and it will give you a boost in calories for sure, but over all I'm not a huge fan...there are better options.
why do I want to drop the npp? I just got it. how bout if I just use it foor cycle numero uno?
Use it if you want, it's just not necessary.
I just am so used to doing cardio daily which I think fucked me upl
There is nothing wrong with a little cardio when bulking, I don't care who you are..keeping a healthy cardio vascular system is very important, keeping your metabolism revving will also make gains come easier. However, keep it in balance, if you're not gaining quality size, then examine things, and make necessary adjustments.
also I got these free cases of musclemilk and eas shakes bars....use em? thanks boys for all your help.
Use them to supplement your diet, not as mainstays. If you can eat "real' food then do that.
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wow good stuff brutha.....i did cardio today....1x a week adequate to stay lean? you made some great posts...what would you use instead of muscle milk....im no fan either....my diet and supps in check?
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wow good stuff brutha.....i did cardio today....1x a week adequate to stay lean? you made some great posts...what would you use instead of muscle milk....im no fan either....my diet and supps in check?
Staying lean is relative to calories in vs calories out, that's it. If you do no cardio but yet you're below maintenance or right at it, then you'll lose weight or stay the same. You really need to stop worrying so much about weight and staying lean. When you bulk up, you're not going to be lean, sorry. Good news though, you'll be adding muscle that you couldn't otherwise. Further, although you won't be "lean" this is relative to BB standards. Although BB's are not lean in the off-season, they are not typically fat by real world standards...at least they shouldn't be.
Instead of muscle milk, just get a good whey isolate powder and throw in natural PB w/it.
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It's funny how I tell Lugar something & he either ignores it or gives me a smart ass answer but when someone else tells him almost the same thing they get a thanks. ::)
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It's funny how I tell Lugar something & he either ignores it or gives me a smart ass answer but when someone else tells him almost the same thing they get a thanks. ::)
I did not realize you'd already said the same stuff. Typically I'll read the entire thread, but with this one I just responded to his original questions.
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I did not realize you'd already said the same stuff. Typically I'll read the entire thread, but with this one I just responded to his original questions.
I'm just making a point to Lugar. I didn't say them same things in this thread but in others I have. No problems it's all good. He'll probably make four or five threads about the same thing with in the next month. ;D He thinks I'm mean because I don't always tell him what he wants to here. I actually am not I'm just being honest & I'm trying to keep him from fucking himself up. Oh well. Notice how he also refuses to answer how long his cycle is going to be. Oh well, such is life. I will continue to try & help him unless he specifically asks me not to. I've also tried to make some of my posts more positive. It's all good either way.
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I'm sorry but those pics are not from today....
see this thread and the date ( look familiar?)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=267757
Interesting. Why is the account suspended?
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swear to god those pics are from yesterday.....why the hell would I make this shit up........im listening trust me. I know who to listen to now good advice from davie n arnold jr they r it......theyve been there......plus goals are same........pics are e a mnth into bulk 9 %? close to my max of 12 before I cut back.......
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all my trouble was pre-therapy....it's sad, but not afraid to admit I had a ED disease, I'm batteling it...I will beat it, thanks for the support!
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cheat day tdy what should I hsve bought a box of oreos n strwberry quick for late night.....
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cheat day tdy what should I hsve bought a box of oreos n strwberry quick for late night.....
What are you asking? Are you asking what you should eat when you cheat? If so, a cheat meal is just that, a "cheat meal." For example, I recently started dieting for a show, I am on a no carb, high protein, moderate fat diet...no carbs means I eat no carbs. I have one cheat meal per wk, Saturday night, last meal of the day, whatever on earth I want. Last night, Chinese food, last wk, a big ass pile of Mexican food. Next Saturday I might bury my face in a gallon of ice cream, or I might eat a butt load of pizza...it doesn't matter.
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I wissed out..........feels like I cheat everynight............
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I made these crazy snacks that keep me awak all night.....I find myself eating them at all hours of the night, first I start with a homemade bar and thick egg white shake with veggies...then I swear I wake up 3-4 times ad eat more veggies and these:
I've baked fat free cream cheese, protein powder, sf davinchi syrup, egg whites in a pan and then froze them......tell last candy bars.....I alsmost eat a whole pan each nioght....prob. a full container of cc, 2 scoops protein, egg whites, syrup.......
Also, ff sf pudding with a scoop of protein........freeze for a little, almost like ice cream........almost eat an entire container each night at 2am/////sucks.
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I made these crazy snacks that keep me awak all night.....I find myself eating them at all hours of the night, first I start with a homemade bar and thick egg white shake with veggies...then I swear I wake up 3-4 times ad eat more veggies and these:
I've baked fat free cream cheese, protein powder, sf davinchi syrup, egg whites in a pan and then froze them......tell last candy bars.....I alsmost eat a whole pan each nioght....prob. a full container of cc, 2 scoops protein, egg whites, syrup.......
Also, ff sf pudding with a scoop of protein........freeze for a little, almost like ice cream........almost eat an entire container each night at 2am/////sucks.
Man you sound like a creative chef. Thats cool. Those are interesting ideas.
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Columbus.. you know who i am.
..So hear what i have to say.
You know you'll never be anywhere near where you 'need to be' to 'compete'.
Namely because your stiffest competitor has already beaten you.
..that person being yourself.
You can't stick to a routine.
You can't accept advice.. because your personality drowns out the voices of others.
You can't..and won't be able to compete EVER.
..unless you drown that voice out.
..For that, i think you need psychological help.
No flame intended.. but no apologies either.
-Narkissos
Owner of:
Apollo Fitness Inc.
Best post in this thread.
You guys are wasting your time.
He's asked these questions several times on this board and about 5 other websites. The SAME damn questions are asked every month.
Good luck helping this guy. He is the last person on this planet who should be using steroids with all his head problems.
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Anything worng with getting so many cals in the om, waking to eat, etc.........here's my concrete plan.........
730 PRO CARB FAT
1/2 CUP OATS 5.00 27.00 3.00 150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 18.00 - - 225.00
2 EGG WHITES 6.00 1.00 1.00 80.00
1 banana 1.50 30.00 1.40 125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin 4.00 30.00 3.00 160.00
34.50 88.00 8.40 740.00
10
3oz Flank Steak 21.00 - 3.75 135.00
4oz Buffalo 36 3.00 180
1 cp brown rice 3.00 45.00 3.00 210.00
60.00 45.00 9.75 525.00
1pm
5oz chicken 33.75 - 3.13 162.50
1 CUP OATS 10.00 54.00 6.00 300.00
43.75 54.00 9.13 462.50
TRAIN 3PMS
sip of extend - - - #REF! -
600ISH
2 PCS TOAST 3.00 30.00 3.00 125.00
SALAD 2.00 30.00 3.00 150.00
can on tuna 43.00 - 2.00 150.00
45.00 0 30.00 5.00 0 300.00
7PM
2 TB PB 9.20 60.00 4.00 320.00
2PCS TOAST 3.00 30.00 3.00 175.00
1 banana 1.50 30.00 1.40 125.00
13.70 120.00 - 8.40 - 620.00
900
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 12.00 1.00 - 65.00
20 almonds 10.00 10.00 18.00 200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND 20.00 5.00 2.00 120.00
42.00 16.00 0 20.00 0 385.00
VEGGIES TO SNACK ON
238.95 - 353.00 #VALUE! 60.68 #REF! 3,032.50
31.52% 46.56% 0.39 18.01%
955.80 1,412.00 0 546.08
1,181.60 1,181.60 590.80 2,954.00
942.65 - 828.60 #VALUE! 530.13 (78.50)
0.32 0.47 0.18
275.00 325.00 40.00
I think I am going to add two shakes of pb, milk, casein splenda.............mayb e a muscle milk or maybe some low sugar bars................
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Anything worng with getting so many cals in the om, waking to eat, etc.........here's my concrete plan.........
730 PRO CARB FAT
1/2 CUP OATS 5.00 27.00 3.00 150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 18.00 - - 225.00
2 EGG WHITES 6.00 1.00 1.00 80.00
1 banana 1.50 30.00 1.40 125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin 4.00 30.00 3.00 160.00
34.50 88.00 8.40 740.00
10
3oz Flank Steak 21.00 - 3.75 135.00
4oz Buffalo 36 3.00 180
1 cp brown rice 3.00 45.00 3.00 210.00
60.00 45.00 9.75 525.00
1pm
5oz chicken 33.75 - 3.13 162.50
1 CUP OATS 10.00 54.00 6.00 300.00
43.75 54.00 9.13 462.50
TRAIN 3PMS
sip of extend - - - #REF! -
600ISH
2 PCS TOAST 3.00 30.00 3.00 125.00
SALAD 2.00 30.00 3.00 150.00
can on tuna 43.00 - 2.00 150.00
45.00 0 30.00 5.00 0 300.00
7PM
2 TB PB 9.20 60.00 4.00 320.00
2PCS TOAST 3.00 30.00 3.00 175.00
1 banana 1.50 30.00 1.40 125.00
13.70 120.00 - 8.40 - 620.00
900
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 12.00 1.00 - 65.00
20 almonds 10.00 10.00 18.00 200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND 20.00 5.00 2.00 120.00
42.00 16.00 0 20.00 0 385.00
VEGGIES TO SNACK ON
238.95 - 353.00 #VALUE! 60.68 #REF! 3,032.50
31.52% 46.56% 0.39 18.01%
955.80 1,412.00 0 546.08
1,181.60 1,181.60 590.80 2,954.00
942.65 - 828.60 #VALUE! 530.13 (78.50)
0.32 0.47 0.18
275.00 325.00 40.00
I think I am going to add two shakes of pb, milk, casein splenda.............mayb e a muscle milk or maybe some low sugar bars................
;D...... :'(
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Anything worng with getting so many cals in the om, waking to eat, etc.........here's my concrete plan.........
730 PRO CARB FAT
1/2 CUP OATS 5.00 27.00 3.00 150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 18.00 - - 225.00
2 EGG WHITES 6.00 1.00 1.00 80.00
1 banana 1.50 30.00 1.40 125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin 4.00 30.00 3.00 160.00
34.50 88.00 8.40 740.00
10
3oz Flank Steak 21.00 - 3.75 135.00
4oz Buffalo 36 3.00 180
1 cp brown rice 3.00 45.00 3.00 210.00
60.00 45.00 9.75 525.00
1pm
5oz chicken 33.75 - 3.13 162.50
1 CUP OATS 10.00 54.00 6.00 300.00
43.75 54.00 9.13 462.50
TRAIN 3PMS
sip of extend - - - #REF! -
600ISH
2 PCS TOAST 3.00 30.00 3.00 125.00
SALAD 2.00 30.00 3.00 150.00
can on tuna 43.00 - 2.00 150.00
45.00 0 30.00 5.00 0 300.00
7PM
2 TB PB 9.20 60.00 4.00 320.00
2PCS TOAST 3.00 30.00 3.00 175.00
1 banana 1.50 30.00 1.40 125.00
13.70 120.00 - 8.40 - 620.00
900
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 12.00 1.00 - 65.00
20 almonds 10.00 10.00 18.00 200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND 20.00 5.00 2.00 120.00
42.00 16.00 0 20.00 0 385.00
VEGGIES TO SNACK ON
238.95 - 353.00 #VALUE! 60.68 #REF! 3,032.50
31.52% 46.56% 0.39 18.01%
955.80 1,412.00 0 546.08
1,181.60 1,181.60 590.80 2,954.00
942.65 - 828.60 #VALUE! 530.13 (78.50)
0.32 0.47 0.18
275.00 325.00 40.00
I think I am going to add two shakes of pb, milk, casein splenda.............mayb e a muscle milk or maybe some low sugar bars................
Seriously Charles.
How many fucking times have you posted this on these forums in the last 3 months?
Don't make me start bumping threads!
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Just worries me as it feels like I am eating soo much yet the scale isnt doing much..........did you think it's enough food? Also, is it pretty detremental to get the bulk of your cals btween 6pm and bed.......(9pm)
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Just worries me as it feels like I am eating soo much yet the scale isnt doing much..........
::) ... because muscle increase in a linear fashion right?
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need my head on str8 shitty liftn day feel fat n bloated abs look blurred tdy. depressed need a smack down from some good bro fucccccck
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need my head on str8 shitty liftn day feel fat n bloated abs look blurred tdy. depressed need a smack down from some good bro fucccccck
Stop looking at your abs and keep your eyes set on your long term goals. picture the end product, not the short term appearance.
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YOUR abs look faded as the day goes on? Fing sucks......sharp in the am, now look skinny fat......feel like stopping and starting to do cardio again....cant let myself do it bro.....cmon...........i gotta keep eating...all night.......just got done training, all i had was toast, tuna and a salad......damnnnnnn.... ..all my other meals in though..........
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YOUR abs look faded as the day goes on? Fing sucks......sharp in the am, now look skinny fat......feel like stopping and starting to do cardio again....cant let myself do it bro.....cmon...........i gotta keep eating...all night.......just got done training, all i had was toast, tuna and a salad......damnnnnnn.... ..all my other meals in though..........
Seek mental help, please DO NOT take steroids.
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I;m fucking seeking help already for the 10,00000 time....just sometimes I still get depressed....listen dude, I've followed what a few guys have said to a tee....I'm lamming every bit of 4k in cals, doing no cardio, training my ass off....so when the abs fade, or look coverered up in the om, tats gotta be normal to feel that way, agreed?
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no its not normal to feel that way, if you already feel this depressed a couple days into wait for a month down the road when you have a little bit of bloat.
You sound almost suicidal the way you talk. :-\
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Suicidal? Hardly.....just depressing when you look at your aabs flxed and they are crisp in the am, then the night comes around and they are vanished......wwater retention?
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Suicidal? Hardly.....just depressing when you look at your aabs flxed and they are crisp in the am, then the night comes around and they are vanished......wwater retention?
No I think it is probally just fat starting to acumulate, you better be careful.
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sorta funny......see everyone smile.... ::)
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Suicidal? Hardly.....just depressing when you look at your aabs flxed and they are crisp in the am, then the night comes around and they are vanished......wwater retention?
It should not be depressing, you should be happy about it. Why? It takes solid weight gain to gain muscle...if you're not gaining weight, then you're not gaining muscle...some fat comes with it. How much fat is determined by how you do things as well as your genetic makeup, but at some level it is inevitable. In your case, I don't think "too much fat" is going to be a problem.
Now, post any questions you want, but in the name of sanity, stop talking and worrying about your abs.
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just depressing tolose your abs when youve had em and this deisease for 5 years.........My face looks fuller......the only thing is I'm REALLY not eating that much, it's 100% clean, and my strength is weel, weak but improving......it would be a whole different story if
#1 I was eating swhit..........all day fast food, pizza etc.........
#2 my strength was going through the roof
The only good thing is I'm doing NO cardio and till holding on to a faded 4 pack.......plus I eat really late, my bars, and snacks, which I could do if I was cutting....but really, the scale is moving, and I'm only getting in 4 good meals...........tell, me....looking at what Ive eaten every day since we first spoke, should the scale really be soaring???
730 PRO CARB FAT
1/2 CUP OATS 5.00 27.00 3.00 150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 18.00 - - 225.00
2 EGG WHITES 6.00 1.00 1.00 80.00
1 banana 1.50 30.00 1.40 125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin 4.00 30.00 3.00 160.00
34.50 88.00 8.40 740.00
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3oz Flank Steak 21.00 - 3.75 135.00
4oz Buffalo 36 3.00 180
1 brown rice 3.00 45.00 3.00 210.00
60.00 45.00 9.75 525.00
1pm
5oz chicken 33.75 - 3.13 162.50
1 CUP OATS 10.00 54.00 6.00 300.00
43.75 54.00 9.13 462.50
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2 PCS TOAST 3.00 30.00 3.00 125.00
SALAD 2.00 30.00 3.00 150.00
can on tuna 43.00 - 2.00 150.00
45.00 0 30.00 5.00 0 300.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 12.00 1.00 - 65.00
20 almonds 10.00 10.00 18.00 200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND 20.00 5.00 2.00 120.00
42.00 16.00 0 20.00 0 385.00
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See, so if I'm gonna lose some cuts, so be it, just want to be strong! I want weight gain = strength gain!!!
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good luck to you in attaining your goals
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text msg warning.......im amazed how quickly abs gone I look like 12 %172lbs........gotta cheat sll werkend need some pushing
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I was jsut thinking, no cardio is a step (even though I feel like a slg without it) I'll save it for when I cut...I need 50lbs over these next 2 years....going to start having to eat whatever doesnt move.....I also need my cheat meals for the extra cals...suppose to get in 1 a week......meals, not days........help me betwwen a box of fig newtons, oreos and chock. strawberry qucik (1 liter).........I'm just in the mood for salty and or sweet....no wings or fast food...I want a good pm, post training, prebed snack......a thick casein shake and some quick? Anyone in? I need the cals, just dont want them to be sloppy cals!!
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Amazing what 3,.500 cals can do in one week...I look like (abs anyway) that I'm 12%, skinny fat look sucks! 174, highest I've been in ahwile.....gues I have to let it go and finally do as you guys say and cheat this weekend.....pound hard.
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Amazing what 3,.500 cals can do in one week...I look like (abs anyway) that I'm 12%, skinny fat look sucks! 174, highest I've been in ahwile.....gues I have to let it go and finally do as you guys say and cheat this weekend.....pound hard.
You posted this yesterday on another board:
"4,000 cals a day for 3 weeks now man........hardly something to laugh at......although I still have those figs and oreos.........just dont get really hunfry till after training then its too late......."
Do you eat more on other boards than you do on this one?
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I never count cals Mav......its an approx. a minimum of 3500k and a max of 4k......somedays I may not get all my night meals in (80% of my food consumption comes post training, prebed from 5pm to 1am.....sometimes, like after heavy deads, I lose the urge to eat.......
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I never count cals Mav......its an approx. a minimum of 3500k and a max of 4k......somedays I may not get all my night meals in (80% of my food consumption comes post training, prebed from 5pm to 1am.....sometimes, like after heavy deads, I lose the urge to eat.......
If you do not count calories, then why do you post your daily diet that includes a daily caloric value. Ironically, you will then question those daily calories and ask for feedback from the boards as to whether or not you should increase or decrease your calories, (total calories, individual meal calories, etc.).
But then again, you don't count calories...
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WITHIN A FEW HUNDRED..........
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Okay.
By the way: I challenge you to post some new pictures. Good pictures. Not little thumbnails. I, including most everyone on this board, want to see what the mirror says. Because the mirror doesn't lie!