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As a retired police officer, back in the 80's many of us used steroids and lifted religiously. We worked in the most dangerous departments in the USA..The goal was simple, get and stay strong, your life depended on it.
Now comes along this article: http://www.law.depaul.edu/students/organizations_journals/student_orgs/lawslj/Volume%202,%20Issue%202/Sweitzer%20Cops%20On%20Steroids.pdf
And the misinformation mindspin begins. In the early 80's doctors prescribed with ease and the cost was minimal. That was then this is now.
Do you feel most, some, a few of police officers today are using steroids???
Do you see this as a problem?
Beks
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Myself I wanted to be as strong as this dude I knew who was the strongest cop in the world (steroids). I would say if you were gang task or in a big dangerous city one might want to be jacked and steroids would save an officer many hours. It does kind of go against the whole think of "conflict of interest" though and I don't think cops should really, at least most cops.
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nothing new....
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if you get a scrip fine,, dont know to many docs that will deny this to a cop.. but if your doing illegally to "survive". then your a hypocrite, because everyone your arresting are committing crimes for their survival.
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My dad was a cop for 28 years and never had to take any shit to reach around and deliver a deserved beating... ;D
Of course he was a big guy, as big as me; 5'11 250lb of kosher beef...
not bashing on you beks, just saying that if we didn't have the lax "non discrimitating" & "minority promoting" enrollment policies we would still have a bunch of badasses beefs out there doing the job God (or natural selection ;D) built them for...
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not bashing on you beks, just saying that if we didn't have the lax "non discrimitating" & "minority promoting" enrollment policies we would still have a bunch of badasses beefs out there doing the job God (or natural selection ;D) built them for...
100% correct
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My dad was a cop for 28 years and never had to take any shit to reach around and deliver a deserved beating... ;D
Of course he was a big guy, as big as me; 5'11 250lb of kosher beef...
not bashing on you beks, just saying that if we didn't have the lax "non discrimitating" & "minority promoting" enrollment policies we would still have a bunch of badasses beefs out there doing the job God (or natural selection ;D) built them for...
Times change. The reasoning for giving cops 9mms was that the criminals all had them and the cops were outgunned. It's seems just as unfair to ask a natty cop to tackle a juiced up drug dealer.
The last paragraph I agree with 100%.
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Times change. The reasoning for giving cops 9mms was that the criminals all had them and the cops were outgunned. It's seems just as unfair to ask a natty cop to tackle a juiced up drug dealer.
The last paragraph I agree with 100%.
Hell, I should've been more specific, I know my dad and if it had been avail. he would have jumped on the train (the thick cocky type ;D ) but by then it was mid 80's and he was on a more bureaucratic role..
I condone any performance enhanancements when you put you life on the line.
Dude, the worst thing in my life ever was to stay with my mom when my dad was on a busy night shift and see her stress out.. :(
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dont know any cops personaly but from the look of it many juice and i dont blame em
drive by certain parts on nyc harlem, east ny, bushwick some huge fuckers there
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dont know any cops personaly but from the look of it many juice and i dont blame em
drive by certain parts on nyc harlem, east ny, bushwick some huge fuckers there
How 'bout bigger guns ;D (my grand father type of answer, Greatest Generation old School)
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dont know any cops personaly but from the look of it many juice and i dont blame em
drive by certain parts on nyc harlem, east ny, bushwick some huge fuckers there
I don't blame them either. They deal with scum and assholes all day. Anything they can do to get the upper hand, good for them.
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As long as you test clean to get into HPD, then the lid comes off. Lots of big cops in Hawaii.
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As long as you test clean to get into HPD, then the lid comes off. Lots of big cops in Hawaii.
there sure are
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I think it's fine as long as it doesn't effect the cop's attitude too much, which is probably asking too much.
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Here's the perfect example of police on steroids
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I know several cops in a few cities around me that are on gear and they don't mind talking to me about it, but they also leave alot of the guys in the gym alone about their steroid use too....Soo I guess it is an even trade...On the other hand, a friend of mine in Tampa that use to sell steroids to his cop buddies got busted by some of the same cops that he sold to; of course all the cops completely denied ever buying them LoL.... ::)
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As a retired police officer, back in the 80's many of us used steroids and lifted religiously. We worked in the most dangerous departments in the USA..The goal was simple, get and stay strong, your life depended on it.
Now comes along this article: http://www.law.depaul.edu/students/organizations_journals/student_orgs/lawslj/Volume%202,%20Issue%202/Sweitzer%20Cops%20On%20Steroids.pdf
And the misinformation mindspin begins. In the early 80's doctors prescribed with ease and the cost was minimal. That was then this is now.
Do you feel most, some, a few of police officers today are using steroids???
Do you see this as a problem?
Beks
what has using steriods got to do with being a gd police officer, your just looking for excuse to use. every other steriod user out there wants to get big and strong too, what makes you guys special? theres always a lawful way to get big and strong
if u want to be a gd officer, go read ur law books, practice with your guns, and train in martial arts and train in running and lift weights only on compound exercise these are the real useful things to do
what? next, the cops are going to be asking for free steriods from the government. because your 'life depends on it'
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what has using steriods got to do with being a gd police officer, your just looking for excuse to use. every other steriod user out there wants to get big and strong too, what makes you guys special? theres always a lawful way to get big and strong
if u want to be a gd officer, go read ur law books, practice with your guns, and train in martial arts and train in running and lift weights only on compound exercise these are the real useful things to do
what? next, the cops are going to be asking for free steriods from the government. because your 'life depends on it'
Sounds like a perfect career for washed-up bodybuilders to consider....LoL
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being big and taking steroids does not make you tougher,so there is no need for police to take them especially when you have a gun a bullet proof vest and a baton,not to mention an entire police force backing you up.If police use steroids they are breaking the law plain and simple and from anyone else i would not care because i have done them myself but from someone who is supposed to uphold the law,they should also have to follow the law.but nowadays most police are corrupt anyway so what are you going do.The police even allowing ronnie to be a cop is rediculous,as obvious as his steroid use is it just shows that cops dont abide by the rules and they wonder why people hate them.
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Every cop I knew in Erie, PA (and I had 2 relatives on the force) used...it's funny how a lifting injury ended one of their careers I think he tells people some angel dusted dude bit his thumb off when really it was his bench weight (565) falling on the thumb.
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I'm a Sergeant on a department located about an hour outside of Chicago. We have close to 50 sworn. I would say that there is no one on my department that is juiced and of the thousands of cops that I have met over the years, there have only been 2 or 3 that I have suspected of juicing.
While I agree with the last two paragraphs in your post, this first portion is completely delusional. If you can honestly say that of the thousands of cops you've met, you only think 2 or 3 juiced you need to find a different profession.
First, I appreciate the job you do and respect that you are doing a service for us to protect the law on a local level. But, I know too many cops who are really no different than your average citizen aside from they don't get in any legal trouble for breaking the same laws. If its not juicing, they smoke pot, drink and drive, speed when not in pursuit, confiscating and then selling drugs, participating in illegal gambling, etc. I know multiple cops who smoke weed and bet with bookies. Conservatively, I'll say that 60% (in my opinion its much higher) of cops have huge egos that only inflate once on the job. They think they're untouchable and get on huge power trips, mostly younger officers. They contort the fact they're using illegal substances into justification that's its part of their job.
Again, with steroids, its the same as everything else. If you see some punk 24 year old cop with veins bursting out of his forearms just from getting out of the car, can you honestly say you think he's natural. I'm 26, and have been lifting seriously for at least the last 6 years. I'm natural and the only supplement you'll find in my house is a bag of whey protein I use if I absolutely cannot get whole food. In the six years of reading mags, doing research and gaining experience, you quickly figure out what you're capable of physically and the limitations of not juicing and how much of what you're reading is propaganda bullshit. I'm fine with that, its my choice. Also, I'm not some hater who thinks everyone that looks better than me is juicing. That's not at all the case but it makes it quite easy to tell the difference between someone juicing vs. a natural. Its more about intimidation, the cop wanting to get out of his cruiser and intimidate his prospective arrests with his size and probable strength.
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if you get a scrip fine,, dont know to many docs that will deny this to a cop.. but if your doing illegally to "survive". then your a hypocrite, because everyone your arresting are committing crimes for their survival.
robbing a bank is for your survival? selling drugs to kids for survival? that is a demented point of view...
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robbing a bank is for your survival? selling drugs to kids for survival? that is a demented point of view...
well you gotta make money somehow.... ::)
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COPS NEED STEROIDS?? Dumbest shit I've ever heard - do you guys thing a jucied up bber could beat a pro boxer or MMA fighter?? Hell I bet the cop who beat Kimbo down wasn't on juice. They just need to stop getting pussies on the force!! Cops really don't need that much weight training - they need to train like boxers and MMA fighters.
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Times change. The reasoning for giving cops 9mms was that the criminals all had them and the cops were outgunned. It's seems just as unfair to ask a natty cop to tackle a juiced up drug dealer.
The last paragraph I agree with 100%.
They are still outgunned with the 9's. They need .45's.
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what has using steriods got to do with being a gd police officer, your just looking for excuse to use. every other steriod user out there wants to get big and strong too, what makes you guys special? theres always a lawful way to get big and strong
if u want to be a gd officer, go read ur law books, practice with your guns, and train in martial arts and train in running and lift weights only on compound exercise these are the real useful things to do
what? next, the cops are going to be asking for free steriods from the government. because your 'life depends on it'
You haven't got a clue....
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Lots of cops sauce hard at my gym. They usually train in the middle of the night after their shifts are over. They gym is 24 hrs so it suits them. Funny though....they'll pull a kid over for having a little weed on him/her giving them a hard time, but they'll stick AAS in their systems.
PB
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They are still outgunned with the 9's. They need .45's.
Police officer's don't use 9's anymore, they are all .45 or .40.... the 9mm is too fast, and doesn't have good knock down power.
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COPS NEED STEROIDS?? Dumbest shit I've ever heard - do you guys thing a jucied up bber could beat a pro boxer or MMA fighter?? Hell I bet the cop who beat Kimbo down wasn't on juice. They just need to stop getting pussies on the force!! Cops really don't need that much weight training - they need to train like boxers and MMA fighters.
do you think these guys aren't juiced? ::)
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My brother is a Highway Patrolman in Ca. He is very well known because of his size and his accomplishments. He got into the academy at 6'6" 330 lbs. Because of his college degrees, letters of recommendations and other shit they allowed him to enter the academy at that size if he could do the obstacle course. And he did it with flying colors. If you are a cop in California you will probably know my brother. He won some award in 1996 or so for being a great cop or something. I think he went and met with the president who gave him the award. I don't really know much about it. Last time I saw him was at this wedding where there were 200 cops. All they did all day and night was tell me stories about him. But he never took roids and never needed them. He was taller and bigger than everyone his whole life. Even in high back then because of his size he had to play JV as a freshman.
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My brother is a Highway Patrolman in Ca. He is very well known because of his size and his accomplishments. He got into the academy at 6'6" 330 lbs. Because of his college degrees, letters of recommendations and other shit they allowed him to enter the academy at that size if he could do the obstacle course. And he did it with flying colors. If you are a cop in California you will probably know my brother. He won some award in 1996 or so for being a great cop or something. I think he went and met with the president who gave him the award. I don't really know much about it. Last time I saw him was at this wedding where there were 200 cops. All they did all day and night was tell me stories about him. But he never took roids and never needed them. He was taller and bigger than everyone his whole life. Even in high back then because of his size he had to play JV as a freshman.
good for your brother but thats not the case for 99.9% of people
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Q: "Do you feel most, some, or a few of police officers today are using steroids???
A: 15-20% is my guess. If I was Five-O, I'd do the same.
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Q: "Do you feel most, some, or a few of police officers today are using steroids???
A: 15-20% is my guess. If I was Five-O, I'd do the same.
If you saw the cops here you would think at least 50% of them are on roids. When the OJ trial was announced they had all the biggest and baddest cops in Hawaii walking the streets of Waikiki. I went down there and I swear NO ONE was going to start any shit that day. I swear EVERY cop was just huge. And you should see the prison guards here. Just enormous. I know allot of them since they all trained at The Gym or Gold's. There are probably more big motherfuckers here per capita than anywhere else in the country. And I know that their is the strongest guys here compared to any gyms I have been to around the world in one place. Seeing guys bench 405 or 495 for reps here is an everyday occurance. Usually when you are at a gym when guys are doing this kind of weight the majority of the gym is watching. Here people barely notice until 600 is on the bar or guys are repping with 500. Strong dudes here.
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since your in hawaii are most of these huge guys samoan,because i know some samoans and they are huge.
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COPS NEED STEROIDS?? Dumbest shit I've ever heard - do you guys thing a jucied up bber could beat a pro boxer or MMA fighter?? Hell I bet the cop who beat Kimbo down wasn't on juice. They just need to stop getting pussies on the force!! Cops really don't need that much weight training - they need to train like boxers and MMA fighters.
you made a good point. If there are cops on steroids, it's a small portion of them. Shit, most of them are obese to begin with. If you take away the Gun and the club, most cops will get the shit beat ouf of them on the streets
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If you saw the cops here you would think at least 50% of them are on roids. When the OJ trial was announced they had all the biggest and baddest cops in Hawaii walking the streets of Waikiki. I went down there and I swear NO ONE was going to start any shit that day. I swear EVERY cop was just huge. And you should see the prison guards here. Just enormous. I know allot of them since they all trained at The Gym or Gold's. There are probably more big motherfuckers here per capita than anywhere else in the country. And I know that their is the strongest guys here compared to any gyms I have been to around the world in one place. Seeing guys bench 405 or 495 for reps here is an everyday occurance. Usually when you are at a gym when guys are doing this kind of weight the majority of the gym is watching. Here people barely notice until 600 is on the bar or guys are repping with 500. Strong dudes here.
There have also been 5 triple bodyweight benchers from Hawaii, so seeing big weight on the bar is nothing.
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My dad was a cop for 28 years and never had to take any shit to reach around and deliver a deserved beating... ;D
Of course he was a big guy, as big as me; 5'11 250lb of kosher beef...
not bashing on you beks, just saying that if we didn't have the lax "non discrimitating" & "minority promoting" enrollment policies we would still have a bunch of badasses beefs out there doing the job God (or natural selection ;D) built them for...
your dad was a homo like most cops are....stop the game.
Many cops are on steroids and have been for many years...nothing new there... it is white man's impotence that leads them to use these drugs in order to feel MANLY...ha ha ha. I used to know a guy who sold steroids in mass and he would always remark that his best clients were cops and firemen. Piss poor execuses about needing steroids to do their job is laughable at best...but maybe letting them take the steroids will be the best thing to happen to the police force ever...ya see, once they start dropping from coronaries, high blood pressure, kidney failure and the like, then the fantasy that they wish to live will come to an end. Truth of the matter the only thing white a cop needs to do is develop his brain (where he is sorley lacking) and performing the duties offhis job will become much easier. Hitler once thought that giving military soldiers steroids would make them a better soldier...guess what IT DIDN'T. It made them aggressive and crazy and dysfunctional. Todays white cop is a low class idiot, who spends way too much time watching TV, drinking, playing video games and living warped fantasies about having POWER. We all witnessed that druken white cop beating that white female bartender recently because she refused to serve him any more drinks because he was so inebriated. Imagine what will happen with white cops operating on low brain cells (as this cop has), carrying more powerful guns and operating under the delusion and influence of steroids? BTW has anyone noticed that whites are now being beaten, shot, assaulted, arrested ETC often on such shows as COPS and the like? Just a warning to you all that YOU are now on the HIT list by cops and law enforcement, because they now realize that it is YOU who are the PROBLEM.....and YOU who needs to be SUBDUED...
This article written only tries to justify giving cops more guns and drugs under the guise of fighting crime...I have always said that even a pedophile can make an argument to justify raping little boys...the issue becomes is it a MORAL and RIGHT thing to do? I also noticed the gross factual errors in information in the article right off the bat...First off 90% of all drug usage (DEA reports) in america is in the white community(the REAL INNER CITY GHETTO) why then are the cops using the excuse of the African American and Hispanic communities to justify their actions and wants?...LYING TONGUE SYNDROME?? That means 90% of the 1.1 TRILLION dollars in drugs sales and usage is by caucasians yet they keep trying to claim it ion everyone else...sad thing is this information on white drug use has been known for DECADES...yet the LIE persists. Maybe as the CRYSTAL METHERS grows, whites will finally come to admit their problem....
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LYING TONGUE SYNDROME??
No. We like blaming you because it drives you up the wall. Everyone finds it easy to believe too.
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First, I say that if you are employed to enforce the law and openly break it, that is something you have to live this, and I could not. Secondly, I see the problem with officers or ANYONE who takes gear and it inflates a false sense of ego where they begin to abuse their power....with cops it is a much more open field to practice such behavior......
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your dad was a #### like most cops are....stop the game.
Many cops are on steroids and have been for many years...nothing new there... it is white man's impotence that leads them to use these drugs in order to feel MANLY...ha ha ha. I used to know a guy who sold steroids in mass and he would always remark that his best clients were cops and firemen. Piss poor execuses about needing steroids to do their job is laughable at best...but maybe letting them take the steroids will be the best thing to happen to the police force ever...ya see, once they start dropping from coronaries, high blood pressure, kidney failure and the like, then the fantasy that they wish to live will come to an end. Truth of the matter the only thing white a cop needs to do is develop his brain (where he is sorley lacking) and performing the duties offhis job will become much easier. Hitler once thought that giving military soldiers steroids would make them a better soldier...guess what IT DIDN'T. It made them aggressive and crazy and dysfunctional. Todays white cop is a low class idiot, who spends way too much time watching TV, drinking, playing video games and living warped fantasies about having POWER. We all witnessed that druken white cop beating that white female bartender recently because she refused to serve him any more drinks because he was so inebriated. Imagine what will happen with white cops operating on low brain cells (as this cop has), carrying more powerful guns and operating under the delusion and influence of steroids? BTW has anyone noticed that whites are now being beaten, shot, assaulted, arrested ETC often on such shows as COPS and the like? Just a warning to you all that YOU are now on the HIT list by cops and law enforcement, because they now realize that it is YOU who are the PROBLEM.....and YOU who needs to be SUBDUED...
This article written only tries to justify giving cops more guns and drugs under the guise of fighting crime...I have always said that even a pedophile can make an argument to justify raping little boys...the issue becomes is it a MORAL and RIGHT thing to do? I also noticed the gross factual errors in information in the article right off the bat...First off 90% of all drug usage (DEA reports) in america is in the white community(the REAL INNER CITY GHETTO) why then are the cops using the excuse of the African American and Hispanic communities to justify their actions and wants?...LYING TONGUE SYNDROME?? That means 90% of the 1.1 TRILLION dollars in drugs sales and usage is by caucasians yet they keep trying to claim it ion everyone else...sad thing is this information on white drug use has been known for DECADES...yet the LIE persists. Maybe as the CRYSTAL METHERS grows, whites will finally come to admit their problem....
You know what is funny that my brother was very gentle. The reason he did not go pro in football was because he was to nice. He had 40+ letters from colleges offering him scholarships. He was just so huge. But didn't have the killer attitude. Then he became a cop and it all turned around. He became an asshole while on duty. I always said to him that if he had that attitude he would have been All-Pro in football.
since your in hawaii are most of these huge guys samoan,because i know some samoans and they are huge.
Yes some samoans and hawaiians. Even the japanese cops are big. there are some big white ones too.
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most of the cops I knew all carried .40's and a few .45's...my other couz used to carry a snubby .357 talk about wrist damage firing that fugger....that'd take down an elephant....also a funny thing the best snipers in the swat team used .50 sniper rifles, that would suck missing the target. Go through the neighbor's roof and go through two floors.