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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments....im looking for an intelligent and somewhat possibly extensive answer
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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments.
As a non-Squaddie, let me be the first to say...
All drugs.
What the fuck did you think? He used GAKIC or something? ::)
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ALL DRUGS
Edit: Too slow. ;D
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hydroxycut hardcore
hope this helps.
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Bit of a longer diet, to get that kind of conditioning. But it is all drugs, don't kid yourself.
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7 meals a day, 1.5 grams of proteing per 1lb of body wieght and cardio. ::)
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Ok asswipes. No shit the drugs got him shreaded. Im talking about the FULLNESS, the VEINS, the HARDNESS, and the DRYNESS. How does someone come in SO hard and full and dry like that? Its as if he got SO full that his skin appears shrink wrapped as well as he rid himself of every ounce of extracullar water without compromising intramuscular water volume. How friggen difficult is that?
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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments....im looking for an intelligent and somewhat possibly extensive answer
well the picture is the 100% answer to your question, the real question is one you need to ask yourself, are you willing to take the variety and amount of drugs it takes to achieve it?
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Ok asswipes. No shit the drugs got him shreaded. Im talking about the FULLNESS, the VEINS, the HARDNESS, and the DRYNESS. How does someone come in SO hard and full and dry like that? Its as if he got SO full that his skin appears shrink wrapped as well as he rid himself of every ounce of extracullar water without compromising intramuscular water volume. How friggen difficult is that?
Don`t be so fucking stupid.
Hop on down to the Steroids board and acquaint yourself with the wonders of anabolics.
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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments....im looking for an intelligent and somewhat possibly extensive answer
roids help what about 30 percent atleast? and most people inshape are 10 % bodyfat anyways. so thats why any dude on roids can be ripped if they are atleast inshape.
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Ok asswipes. No shit the drugs got him shreaded. Im talking about the FULLNESS, the VEINS, the HARDNESS, and the DRYNESS. How does someone come in SO hard and full and dry like that? Its as if he got SO full that his skin appears shrink wrapped as well as he rid himself of every ounce of extracullar water without compromising intramuscular water volume. How friggen difficult is that?
I hate to say it ALLTOOPOWERFUL, but the responses are correct....to get this look requires quite a bit of drugs as well as a variety of drugs specialized to bring about the hardness, fullness, vascularity etc that you see in Silvio. I wish I could say it is achievable naturally...but it isn't. The only other option you may have is to somehow get your brain to believe that being heavily muscled, vascular while carrying minimal water is NORMAL for you body...this way your brain will force your endocrine system to pump out the multitude and magnitude of hormones needed for your body to attain this conditioning and mass without the drugs. Keep in mind that since your brain will think this is normal for you, the muscle mass will stay forever and no gyno will ever be produced and you will never suffer ill side effects from it...
Now make sure that once you learn these brain manipulation techniques that you share them with the rest of us...lol
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How retarded all these replies are.....As if you can just take some drugs and look like that. I take all sorts of shit and many of my friends/acquantances do as well. Not scared to take anything. Further, if given a recipe of drugs to get that huge and ripped, I would do it. It isn't that easy.
I always hear all the natural guys say...."of, hes just that big because he takes steroids...if I took them I would look even better than that"......unfortunately its a lot more difficult than that. Also, who less qualified to comment on it than those who HAVEN"T taken the drugs in question? You can take as many drugs as you want, but unless you get everythint else down to a tee(diet, exercise, precontest prep, and most importantly your genetics) you are not going to get those kind of results. If it were as simple as "all drugs" then 90% of the people you see at the gym would look like that. Don't be ignorant.
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How retarded all these replies are.....As if you can just take some drugs and look like that. I take all sorts of shit and many of my friends/acquantances do as well. Not scared to take anything. Further, if given a recipe of drugs to get that huge and ripped, I would do it. It isn't that easy.
I always hear all the natural guys say...."of, hes just that big because he takes steroids...if I took them I would look even better than that"......unfortunately its a lot more difficult than that. Also, who less qualified to comment on it than those who HAVEN"T taken the drugs in question? You can take as many drugs as you want, but unless you get everythint else down to a tee(diet, exercise, precontest prep, and most importantly your genetics) you are not going to get those kind of results. If it were as simple as "all drugs" then 90% of the people you see at the gym would look like that. Don't be ignorant.
You obviously don`t have the first clue about how to cycle properly.
Moron.
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Trenbolone helps with muscle harness/quality
Aldactone and diozide...some good diuretics to squeeze water out.
and last, week after week of dieting followed by a good
sodium-drop/carb up process.(and water-shedding)
Hope this helps.
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Ok asswipes. No shit the drugs got him shreaded. Im talking about the FULLNESS, the VEINS, the HARDNESS, and the DRYNESS. How does someone come in SO hard and full and dry like that? Its as if he got SO full that his skin appears shrink wrapped as well as he rid himself of every ounce of extracullar water without compromising intramuscular water volume. How friggen difficult is that?
I think we had a thread to try and define these words, but would you mind elaborating on the differences so we're all on the same page?
Fullness
Hardness
Dryness
Thank you in advance.
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You obviously don`t have the first clue about how to cycle properly.
Moron.
Amazing how you can draw such an accurate and all emcompassing conclusion by reading one paragraph spoken in generalities.
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Trenbolone helps with muscle harness/quality
Aldactone and diozide...some good diuretics to squeeze water out.
and last, week after week of dieting followed by a good
sodium-drop/carb up process.(and water-shedding)
Hope this helps.
haha don`t let "bigwyte" hear you say that, according to "him" drugs play almost no role. ::)
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Amazing how you can draw such an accurate and all emcompassing conclusion by reading one paragraph spoken in generalities.
Your "one paragraph" was one long meltdown full of bitching. Are you taking estrogen at the moment?
Grow a set of balls and be a man for once in your life, "bigwyte"
BTW, thanks for acknowledging that I was "accurate" in what I said ;D
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GENETICS asswipes give the man some credit and a lot of hard work, and everything else, drugs included .
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haha don`t let "bigwyte" hear you say that, according to "him" drugs play almost no role. ::)
it's half and half. Drugs don't do all the work, but at the same time, they can glorify the effects. Its like u got a mustang....you gotta know how to race it well if you wanna be considered a good driver...just having it doesn't make you any better behind the wheel. Same with contest prep.
it's all a science bro.
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How retarded all these replies are.....As if you can just take some drugs and look like that. I take all sorts of shit and many of my friends/acquantances do as well. Not scared to take anything. Further, if given a recipe of drugs to get that huge and ripped, I would do it. It isn't that easy.
I always hear all the natural guys say...."of, hes just that big because he takes steroids...if I took them I would look even better than that"......unfortunately its a lot more difficult than that. Also, who less qualified to comment on it than those who HAVEN"T taken the drugs in question? You can take as many drugs as you want, but unless you get everythint else down to a tee(diet, exercise, precontest prep, and most importantly your genetics) you are not going to get those kind of results. If it were as simple as "all drugs" then 90% of the people you see at the gym would look like that. Don't be ignorant.
Haha oh brother.
Let me guess you stack enough drugs that most pros do, Right? right
You wear under armour to the gym right? right.
You wear house of pain shirts out to eat, so people know you workout, Right?
Your diet sucks right? right
Your work ethic in the gym sucks right? Right
You never have ran a cycle properly right? Right
Hope this helps
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it's half and half. Drugs don't do all the work, but at the same time, they can glorify the effects. Its like u got a mustang....you gotta know how to race it well if you wanna be considered a good driver...just having it doesn't make you any better behind the wheel. Same with contest prep.
it's all a science bro.
Of course, drugs are a part of the equation. Not the only part, but a large part nonetheless.
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clearly the adonis principles at work! ;D
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Your "one paragraph" was one long meltdown full of bitching. Are you taking estrogen at the moment?
Grow a set of balls and be a man for once in your life, "bigwyte"
BTW, thanks for acknowledging that I was "accurate" in what I said ;D
In that case....amazing how you can draw such an accurate and all emcompassing conclusion by reading one "long meltdown full of bitching"
And who is having a melt down? Only one of us is resorting to personal attacks such as "moron"; "be a man for once", "grow some balls".......These are certainly effective tools to get your point across.
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Trenbolone helps with muscle harness/quality
Aldactone and diozide...some good diuretics to squeeze water out.
and last, week after week of dieting followed by a good
sodium-drop/carb up process.(and water-shedding)
Hope this helps.
If only it were that easy.....
You need TONS of water+carbs (with sodium) IN the muscle to bring out fullness like that with ZERO water outside the muscle (under the skin). Any idea how hard it is to do that? Do drugs actually assist in how your muscles LOAD glycogen/water? I know slin does, but it also brings some water retention along with it. How can a roid cause FULLNESS? Explain...
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Of course, drugs are a part of the equation. Not the only part, but a large part nonetheless.
And this was my original point in my rebuttal to "all drugs". So we are on the same page now.
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Your "one paragraph" was one long meltdown full of bitching. Are you taking estrogen at the moment?
Grow a set of balls and be a man for once in your life, "bigwyte"
BTW, thanks for acknowledging that I was "accurate" in what I said ;D
haha "bigwyte" LOVES the cock.
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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments....im looking for an intelligent and somewhat possibly extensive answer
The secret soldier serum.
Doom approves.
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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments....im looking for an intelligent and somewhat possibly extensive answer
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Also...............
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FULL
HARD
THICK
PUMPED
(http://starbulletin.com/2001/08/26/features/artb.jpg)
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FULL
HARD
THICK
PUMPED
(http://starbulletin.com/2001/08/26/features/artb.jpg)
LMAO iv heard competitors use that before stage i swear to god i heard its effective but risky
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No no no here's the secret
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In that case....amazing how you can draw such an accurate and all emcompassing conclusion by reading one "long meltdown full of bitching"
And who is having a melt down? Only one of us is resorting to personal attacks such as "moron"; "be a man for once", "grow some balls".......These are certainly effective tools to get your point across.
Calm down, cupcake, it`s all in good fun.
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genetics.
and drugs.
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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments....im looking for an intelligent and somewhat possibly extensive answer
Well, what the hell do you want us to say?
All Muscletech? I mean, c'mon. ::)
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genetics.
and drugs.
Stloe my answer.
without the genetics the drugs won't work.
If you give a pasty bastard like Kegdrainer the EXACT cycle that guy took he won't even come close to that.
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Easy.
Low Calories.
Anyone can attain Extreme conditioning.
Drugs have nothing to do with it as many Lifetime Naturals achieve this type of conditioning. Myself included.
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Yes I don't understand why he even asked the question
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im going to say from my experiences that it goes something like this:
in order of importance:
1) GENETICS
2) DRUGS
3) DIET
4) HARD WORK IN THE GYM
all 4 components need to be there, but this is the order of their importance to achieve the look that silvio has in that picture.
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Yes I don't understand why he even asked the question
Because he thinks there is some sort of mystery or secret when he doesn`t realize that you just have to eat low calories.
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Because he thinks there is some sort of mystery or secret when he doesn`t realize that you just have to eat low calories.
so, by your half baked theory, every one of my clients that is currently consuming less calories than they burn, will eventually look like silvio!!! please remove your head from your rectum!!
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Easy.
Low Calories.
Anyone can attain Extreme conditioning.
Drugs have nothing to do with it as many Lifetime Naturals achieve this type of conditioning. Myself included.
I haven't had any protein in over 3 weeks, and I'm bigger and leaner than I've ever been.
I will be posting pics soon showing my progression from 185lbs at 35% bodyfat to 170lbs at 3% bodyfat, all while eating anything I want.
In fact, I've been AVOIDING protein to show how unnecessary it is!
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I heard that Silvio takes whey protein rectally. that's how he's able to meet his high protein needs for his 1000 gram protein, 0 gram carbs and fat diet.
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It is a combination of god given genetics, drugs, diet and training. Rated in order of importance. 8)
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Many lifetime naturals can achieve the same conditionhttp://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=1.0
Gossip & Opinionsing that others take drugs to achieve - correct.
Not everyone can get that shredded though. Not everyone is genetically capable of getting that shredded. You seem to think in absolutes when there are shades of grey.
are you saying that 'shredded' = more muscle?
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I haven't had any protein in over 3 weeks, and I'm bigger and leaner than I've ever been.
I will be posting pics soon showing my progression from 185lbs at 35% bodyfat to 170lbs at 3% bodyfat, all while eating anything I want.
In fact, I've been AVOIDING protein to show how unnecessary it is!
wow!!! thanks for the info. protein is now an "unnecessary" macronutrient. despite the fact that the human body is made up of 60% protein and that no other macronutrient other than protein breaks down into amino acids..THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF SKELETAL MUSCLE!! you are a nutrition guru!!!
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I think that genetics are one main aspect, drugs are another ....but diet and training should be looked at as one thing.....each is pretty much useless without the other, and those two together are the hard part.
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It is a combination of god given genetics, drugs, diet and training. Rated in order of importance. 8)
thank you!! that is exactly what i said a few posts earlier.
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TA has a lot of intelligent things to say and some which are not correct. TA said that when I lost 20 pounds due to pnemonia that I was "half way there" implying that I had lost mostly fat. ::)
I assure you, I lost at least 12 pounds of 100% PURE muscle mass with the rest being fat and water and that is exactly what I'm gaining back now.
matt, im sorry. "intelligent things to say!!!???" anyone who thinks pneumonia is an effective method for losing fat has NO understand of human metabolism. you said it best. water and lean mass were what you lost.
his (t.a) own "successes" prove nothing more than the fact that HIS body can end up looking like a drowned rat in a caloric deficit consisting of jujubees, candy buttons, pixie stix and mcgriddles!
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The only macro that the body does not need is carbs.
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BINGO!!! the body can make all other necessary conversions from the other 2 macronutrients.
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obviously drugs got him there, but that doesn't mean his drugs will get everyone there. if anyone seriously thinks that drugs are responsible to that degree then they need to explain why the same group of people do well at the olympia every year. then there's the inherent contradiction in people who look at a great physique and say "all drugs" but when a guy looks like shit a la heiko kallbach it's "too much drugs".
well wait a minute, doesn't that mean that MODERATE levels of drugs attain the best results? or at least severely suggest that there is an upper limit? and more importantly, why is it that even the physiques ruined by drugs often still don't have the muscular development of the top guys?
think about the number of guys you see at the gym doing a totally reasonable cycle but look like hell. i know at least five people who fall into that category. simply knowing how to cycle your drugs isn't going to make you look awesome if you train like a moron, don't eat well, or have shit genetics. i could have chad nicholls directing my diet/pharmaceuticals and charles glass training me. will i be an IFBB pro? i'd bet my first child i won't.
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I think that genetics are one main aspect, drugs are another ....but diet and training should be looked at as one thing.....each is pretty much useless without the other, and those two together are the hard part.
Well I have to hand it to you, at least you typed a post without all the estrogen in it from your earlier posts in this thread, bitch boy.
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matt, im sorry. "intelligent things to say!!!???" anyone who thinks pneumonia is an effective method for losing fat has NO understand of human metabolism. you said it best. water and lean mass were what you lost.
his (t.a) own "successes" prove nothing more than the fact that HIS body can end up looking like a drowned rat in a caloric deficit consisting of jujubees, candy buttons, pixie stix and mcgriddles!
the Steak, Egg and Cheese Bagel is wayyyyyy better than McGriddles.
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thank you!! that is exactly what i said a few posts earlier.
Eastcoast - If you're not being sarcastic, then yes....you speak the truth. If you don't have the genetics, none of the other stuff will work for you. Rankings sift out the crap. Almost anyone on Juice can do a level 1 show. But you have to have some pretty good genetics to place in a Level 5. And then only the winner of the overall can win a procard.
So all this talk from guys/gals on here stating "I could be a pro if I took that amount of juice" is complete BS. If you don't have the receptor affinity for the drugs, they simply ain't going to work for ya. Hope this helps.
Dballn247 8)
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the Steak, Egg and Cheese Bagel is wayyyyyy better than McGriddles.
Yes Sars........As we have discussed, that is the Superior Breakfast Sammich!!! 8)
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wow !
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wow!!! thanks for the info. protein is now an "unnecessary" macronutrient. despite the fact that the human body is made up of 60% protein and that no other macronutrient other than protein breaks down into amino acids..THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF SKELETAL MUSCLE!! you are a nutrition guru!!!
Where do you get that 60%??
Wouldn't that number be largely dependant on the muscle mass of that individual?
How is protein the building blocks of muscle? Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in?
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Where do you get that 60%??
Wouldn't that number be largely dependant on the muscle mass of that individual?
How is protein the building blocks of muscle? Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in?
Myosin is a chain of amino brightspot.
"Myosin contains two heavy chains, each about 2000 amino acids in length, which constitute the head and tail domains. Each of these heavy chains contains the N-terminal head domain, while the C-terminal tails take on a coiled-coil morphology, holding the two heavy chains together (imagine two snakes wrapped around each other, such as in a caduceus). " Wikipedia.
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Myosin is a chain of amino brightspot.
"Myosin contains two heavy chains, each about 2000 amino acids in length, which constitute the head and tail domains. Each of these heavy chains contains the N-terminal head domain, while the C-terminal tails take on a coiled-coil morphology, holding the two heavy chains together (imagine two snakes wrapped around each other, such as in a caduceus). " Wikipedia.
actin's a protein as well.
"Actin is a globular structural, 42-47 kDa protein found in many eukaryotic cells, with concentrations of over 100 μM. It is also one of the most highly conserved proteins, differing by no more than 5% in species as diverse as algae and humans."
also wikipedia.
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oh and one more thing, from http://www.ultrunr.com/protein.html
"Over half the dry weight of the human body is protein. Skeletal muscles are 65% protein, hemoglobin is 20% protein, and brain cells are 10% protein."
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sick genetics with sick drugs with intense training and spot on diet
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oh and one more thing, from http://www.ultrunr.com/protein.html
"Over half the dry weight of the human body is protein. Skeletal muscles are 65% protein, hemoglobin is 20% protein, and brain cells are 10% protein."
Yeah, but I'm taking keto acids, which have the capability of covering all essential amino acids not consumed in the diet.
They are not by origin amino acids though, unless needed to be so in the body.
Also, the very high sugar content of my diet keeps my insulin levels elevated quite high throughout the day. This creates a very anti-catabolic environment, as protein degredation is physiologically impossible in the presence of insulin.
Also, with insulin being a mild diuretic by increasing GFR, I'm able to stave off any water retention. The mild sodium reabsorption in the distal tubule caused by the insulin also provides some benefit as it increases intramuscular hydration.
And we all know that the more water in a muscle, the less catabolic it is!
So, at the end of it all, ANY protein I get from my diet can be utilized for synthesis of new proteins.
I figure that I'll get around 10-20g of protein in my diet each day, no matter how hard I try to avoid it.
And since almost all that protein is being used for synthesis of new proteins by my body, I'm adding muscle at the rate of up to 600g a month! That's a pretty decent size increase over the course of a year, especially considering I'm getting leaner at the same time.
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As a non-Squaddie, let me be the first to say...
All drugs.
What the fuck did you think? He used GAKIC or something? ::)
Looks very similar to the "All McDonalds" look of a True Adonis client. ::)
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adonis "principles"
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Myosin is a chain of amino brightspot.
"Myosin contains two heavy chains, each about 2000 amino acids in length, which constitute the head and tail domains. Each of these heavy chains contains the N-terminal head domain, while the C-terminal tails take on a coiled-coil morphology, holding the two heavy chains together (imagine two snakes wrapped around each other, such as in a caduceus). " Wikipedia.
Can't pull anything out of your brain?
Since you're so bright...you probably know that the C-terminal tails are hydrophobic, correct? And the coiled-coil morphology is a by-product of its state as a hydrophobic tail, not out of any inherent need for that morphology.
Not sure if that info is in wikipedia.....so you'll need to do a quick search through some other engine for your retort "brightspot."
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I answered this for you.....
How is protein the building blocks of muscle? Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in?
and you reply
Can't pull anything out of your brain?
Since you're so bright...you probably know that the C-terminal tails are hydrophobic, correct? And the coiled-coil morphology is a by-product of its state as a hydrophobic tail, not out of any inherent need for that morphology.
Not sure if that info is in wikipedia.....so you'll need to do a quick search through some other engine for your retort "brightspot."
MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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actin's a protein as well.
"Actin is a globular structural, 42-47 kDa protein found in many eukaryotic cells, with concentrations of over 100 μM. It is also one of the most highly conserved proteins, differing by no more than 5% in species as diverse as algae and humans."
also wikipedia.
"most highly conserved proteins" is entirely ambiguous....some wiki nerd needs to stop copy and pasting bits of info from pubmed...
Come to think of it, so is "differing by no more than 5%" is pretty damn ambiguous as well. Differing how? Certainly not by volume? Certainly not by size? Do they mean in morphology?
Because the morphology doesn't differ in any species. All life containing proteins are the "L" form of protein, such as "L-leucine."
Which, by the way is one of the most interesting arguments for life outside of earth, as "L" shaped amino acids have been found on many extraterestrial items (meteors, etc.)
Please remove the ambiguity from your retort.
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I answered this for you.....
and you reply
MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, you answered nothing.
You posted pointless drivel from wikipedia.
My question was a rhetorical question for the person quoted in that post.
It is obvious I know the answer, I wanted to see how Mr. Nutrition responded to my retort.
You however, had to vomit some gibberish you had no understanding of from wikipedia.
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Oh brother, another internet PHD. How about this.....
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Oh brother, another internet PHD. How about this.....
You're not very intelligent are you?
Perfectly fine.
The world needs mediocrity just as much as it needs brilliance.
I hold no ill feelings. I will gladly engage in a friendly bull session with you while you process my order at Arby's.
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You're not very intelligent are you?
Perfectly fine.
The world needs mediocrity just as much as it needs brilliance.
I hold no ill feelings. I will gladly engage in a friendly bull session with you while you process my order at Arby's.
While you are on you shift break from Taco Bell perhaps. And yes, your mediocrity balances the brilliance that I bring to the board.
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i actually started a thread on conditioning on the steriod board. when i think of conditioning i think of dorain and now phil heath. i believe gh has alot to do with it. but my guess would be genetics also..thats the only answer to that tight skin look they have
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While you are on you shift break from Taco Bell perhaps. And yes, your mediocrity balances the brilliance that I bring to the board.
Yes....mediocrity oozes from you. lol
Brilliant come back!
HAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!
I already covered the "fast food" worker put down so common in today's youth.
Please choose another option.
There are many generic, pre-designed comebacks that would have added much more to your retort.
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You're not very intelligent are you?
Perfectly fine.
The world needs mediocrity just as much as it needs brilliance.
I hold no ill feelings. I will gladly engage in a friendly bull session with you while you process my order at Arby's.
doison i've already argued with you once and handily proved you wrong (remember the 19 year old college ball player deep squatting over 600 pounds for reps?), but we'll dance again briefly.
you said:
"How is protein the building blocks of muscle? Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in? "
dballn and i pointed out that actin and myosin ARE amino acids. you refuted that the body is 60% protein, i linked to an article that says it is (in dry weight).
now you're changing the debate so you can be right about something. your subsequent posts had nothing to do with what was said earlier. stop that, it's a piss poor way of arguing.
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i actually started a thread on conditioning on the steriod board. when i think of conditioning i think of dorain and now phil heath. i believe gh has alot to do with it. but my guess would be genetics also..thats the only answer to that tight skin look they have
Genetics plays a huge part of the game, If your receptors don't respond, they don't respond.
Yes....mediocrity oozes from you. lol
Brilliant come back!
HAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!
I already covered the "fast food" worker put down so common in today's youth.
Please choose another option.
There are many generic, pre-designed comebacks that would have added much more to your retort.
::) Keep telling yourself so you can sleep tonight little guy.
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Genetics plays a huge part of the game, If your receptors don't respond, they don't respond.
Good genes
diet
cardio
good gear
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Magoo, this clown is so easy, I can just cut and paste flames from my previous posts. They are all applicable to this toolbox.
Good genes
diet
cardio
good gear
Word 8)
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Magoo, this clown is so easy, I can just cut and paste flames from my previous posts. They are all applicable to this toolbox.
honestly, my biggest pet peeve in a debate is when someone repeatedly changes the focal point so they can attempt to be right about something and then claim they won the environment. if you say something and then get proven wrong, man the fuck up and concede you were wrong, i don't get why this idiot won't accept that.
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honestly, my biggest pet peeve in a debate is when someone repeatedly changes the focal point so they can attempt to be right about something and then claim they won the environment. if you say something and then get proven wrong, man the fuck up and concede you were wrong, i don't get why this idiot won't accept that.
It's because he's an Internet Einstein. Plus he mentioned something along the lines of being 170, so he is truly a tiny tit and rages out against anyone that is over 200. Monster jealousy from a highschool kid that thinks he's smart cause he has a coulple of AP classes.
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How retarded all these replies are.....As if you can just take some drugs and look like that. I take all sorts of shit and many of my friends/acquantances do as well. Not scared to take anything. Further, if given a recipe of drugs to get that huge and ripped, I would do it. It isn't that easy.
I always hear all the natural guys say...."of, hes just that big because he takes steroids...if I took them I would look even better than that"......unfortunately its a lot more difficult than that. Also, who less qualified to comment on it than those who HAVEN"T taken the drugs in question? You can take as many drugs as you want, but unless you get everythint else down to a tee(diet, exercise, precontest prep, and most importantly your genetics) you are not going to get those kind of results. If it were as simple as "all drugs" then 90% of the people you see at the gym would look like that. Don't be ignorant.
well put 8)
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doison i've already argued with you once and handily proved you wrong (remember the 19 year old college ball player deep squatting over 600 pounds for reps?), but we'll dance again briefly.
you said:
"How is protein the building blocks of muscle? Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in? "
dballn and i pointed out that actin and myosin ARE amino acids. you refuted that the body is 60% protein, i linked to an article that says it is (in dry weight).
now you're changing the debate so you can be right about something. your subsequent posts had nothing to do with what was said earlier. stop that, it's a piss poor way of arguing.
My question was of the rhetorical sort.
I know that myosin and actin are proteins.
I was asking a specific person "how" this is so.
I did not need someone to post a wikipedia article on something they have no real knowledge of. That is not 'dancing,' that is pointless drivel.
You have no idea what the argument is, so stop attempting to moderate it.
You do not know how or why myosin and actin are proteins.
You know how to do a search for the answer. This is not arguing.
Perhaps you could refute my claims on my diet? Specifical the reasons why the extremely high carbohydrate, extremely low protein approach will not work?
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honestly, my biggest pet peeve in a debate is when someone repeatedly changes the focal point so they can attempt to be right about something and then claim they won the environment. if you say something and then get proven wrong, man the fuck up and concede you were wrong, i don't get why this idiot won't accept that.
You are utterly clueless my chubby, low totalin' friend.
If I ask "how" 2 + 2 = 4, do you REALLY think I don't know that 2 + 2 =4?
That is the essence of my original question.
The fact is, you have no point of reference for anything I've said.
I have stated no falcities in any of my posts. I asked someone who was quick to refute the benefits of my diet approach "why" and "how" his stated facts were true. He obviously had no answer, nor did anyone else, save for a search online (which by the way, resulted in ambiguous half truths that you were none the wiser to notice)
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It's because he's an Internet Einstein. Plus he mentioned something along the lines of being 170, so he is truly a tiny tit and rages out against anyone that is over 200. Monster jealousy from a highschool kid that thinks he's smart cause he has a coulple of AP classes.
You've lost.
I'm on to ZachG and his 1750 total.
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well yea i will say drugs had a big role in that physique. however so did genetics,diet,training, and rest. not anybody can take drugs and look like that it still requires work. steroids aren't a magical injection that allows you to sit on the couch and get huge. i don't use AAS myself but to every huge mother fu**** out there who does congrats, you not only poked yourself with a needle, but you put in some hard work and dedication. steroids without training dieting and rest= nothing but shrunk balls.
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You've lost.
I'm on to ZachG and his 1750 total.
you know, i've already explained what your problem is, and once before i took you down a peg, so i'm not going to concern myself with this any more. sure, we've lost. hope you get a better night's sleep now. ::)
i didn't need to get in depth because your statements were patently false/stupid. you say the body isn't 60% protein, i find a doctor who says it is. you say muscles aren't made of protein, then list two proteins and say muscles are made of them. if you wanted to talk about something else, you should have said that but you didn't.
by the way, did your 700+ pound deadlifting "friend" ever enter that competition?
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I give that guy credit. There's no way I could pound myself in the ass on a daily basis like that. Props!
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Good genes
diet
cardio
good gear
Exactly. Good genes means being able to building a lot of muscle naturally combined with a phenominal genetic response to the drugs.
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so, by your half baked theory, every one of my clients that is currently consuming less calories than they burn, will eventually look like silvio!!! please remove your head from your rectum!!
No chance of that, Dave. I think he likes it up there.
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Eastcoast - If you're not being sarcastic, then yes....you speak the truth. If you don't have the genetics, none of the other stuff will work for you. Rankings sift out the crap. Almost anyone on Juice can do a level 1 show. But you have to have some pretty good genetics to place in a Level 5. And then only the winner of the overall can win a procard.
So all this talk from guys/gals on here stating "I could be a pro if I took that amount of juice" is complete BS. If you don't have the receptor affinity for the drugs, they simply ain't going to work for ya. Hope this helps.
nope. i wasnt being sarcastic. you had listed the same elements in the same order as i did. i also agree with everything else you said in this post. i have been in an overall posedown for a pro card twice in my career so i can speak with decent clarity on what it takes to get there.
Dballn247 8)
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Where do you get that 60%??
Wouldn't that number be largely dependant on the muscle mass of that individual?
How is protein the building blocks of muscle? Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in?
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the 60 percent was a generalization, much like when it is said that the body is 75 percent water. of course this number varies a bit from person to person.
if not protein, then what other nutrient helps to heal the micro tears incurred during progressive resistance training??
by the way, actin and myosin are also known as "contractile PROTEINS"
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TA has a lot of intelligent things to say and some which are not correct. TA said that when I lost 20 pounds due to pnemonia that I was "half way there" implying that I had lost mostly fat. ::)
I assure you, I lost at least 12 pounds of 100% PURE muscle mass with the rest being fat and water and that is exactly what I'm gaining back now.
you're a fool to believe that. You just lost water and glycogen. You don't lose pounds of muscle that easily.
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I ate about one day's worth of food in two weeks. It was difficult for me to eat. I didn't even have the energy to get up and get food in addition to that. I basically starved myself (not by choice). Yes, I definitely lost muscle. It would be different if I was at least consuming some amount of calories, but I was not.
When many people begin a diet (are in a deficit) they lose 10-12lbs in the first 2-3 weeks after eating well above maintenance for awhile. It's water and glycogen.
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plus if you were eating the same amount of calories you would have gained fat.
You were not lifting weights and you were less active being sick so you required significantly less calories.
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Scratch what I said above - I probably did lose more fat than muscle, but I definitely lost a lot of muscle. And even if I did just gain back fat and water, I look a lot more muscular now than I did before. Call me fat and happy. 8)
I thought you were dieting now?
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Nah. I would have, but I had two simple requests from TA: verify his B.S degree in Physics and verify his deadlift claim.
what's that have to do with you dieting?
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Drink 2 full cups of Bleach. Turn on the television and wait for the results. ;D
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You're not very intelligent are you?
Perfectly fine.
The world needs mediocrity just as much as it needs brilliance.
I hold no ill feelings. I will gladly engage in a friendly bull session with you while you process my order at Arby's.
I noticed you mentioned you don't eat any protein.
How will you avoid getting protein from the food when eating at Arby's?
What will you order there that contains no protein?
-Hedge
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I noticed you mentioned you don't eat any protein.
How will you avoid getting protein from the food when eating at Arby's?
What will you order there that contains no protein?
-Hedge
A non-beef....beef sandwich? ;D
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Because he thinks there is some sort of mystery or secret when he doesn`t realize that you just have to eat low calories.
thats just bullshit
eating low calories u will look like a flat tire, you cant have fullness by eating low calories
sure u can look like silvio for 1 day after a week of carb loading but not everyday
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How retarded all these replies are.....As if you can just take some drugs and look like that. I take all sorts of shit and many of my friends/acquantances do as well. Not scared to take anything. Further, if given a recipe of drugs to get that huge and ripped, I would do it. It isn't that easy.
I always hear all the natural guys say...."of, hes just that big because he takes steroids...if I took them I would look even better than that"......unfortunately its a lot more difficult than that. Also, who less qualified to comment on it than those who HAVEN"T taken the drugs in question? You can take as many drugs as you want, but unless you get everythint else down to a tee(diet, exercise, precontest prep, and most importantly your genetics) you are not going to get those kind of results. If it were as simple as "all drugs" then 90% of the people you see at the gym would look like that. Don't be ignorant.
Correct. Very correct.
Your avatar says enough that you are big guy.
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hamburgers with sauteed onions and lots of mustard is they key. cycle this with blueberry flapjacks smothered in syrup to get shredded.
ahhhhhhhhhhhh! the pieces are starting to fit together!!! yes yes...I can see how this would work! you sir are a genious ;D
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Where do you get that 60%??
Wouldn't that number be largely dependant on the muscle mass of that individual?
How is protein the building blocks of muscle? Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in?
the 60 percent was a generalization, much like when it is said that the body is 75 percent water. of course this number varies a bit from person to person.
if not protein, then what other nutrient helps to heal the micro tears incurred during progressive resistance training??
by the way, actin and myosin are also known as "contractile PROTEINS"
Thanks.
Just wanted to see if you knew your stuff.
I appreciate you using your OWN brain, and not stealing some garbage from wikipedia like a few other people.
I especially like that you stated the understanding that the 60% muscle will be dependant on a number of variables. It shows an understanding of the material, not just the ability to steal someone's thoughts on the subject.
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I noticed you mentioned you don't eat any protein.
How will you avoid getting protein from the food when eating at Arby's?
What will you order there that contains no protein?
-Hedge
I'm guessing you've never heard of Curly fries?
Sure, they have a negligable amount of protein, but that is something I'm willing to risk. They just taste so good.
When I eat at Arby's, the curly fries will typically be the bulk of my protein for the day.
With the keto acids I ingest, the incomplete proteins from the fries will suit the keto acids just fine to complete the "all or nothing principle."
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How retarded all these replies are.....As if you can just take some drugs and look like that. I take all sorts of shit and many of my friends/acquantances do as well. Not scared to take anything. Further, if given a recipe of drugs to get that huge and ripped, I would do it. It isn't that easy.
I always hear all the natural guys say...."of, hes just that big because he takes steroids...if I took them I would look even better than that"......unfortunately its a lot more difficult than that. Also, who less qualified to comment on it than those who HAVEN"T taken the drugs in question? You can take as many drugs as you want, but unless you get everythint else down to a tee(diet, exercise, precontest prep, and most importantly your genetics) you are not going to get those kind of results. If it were as simple as "all drugs" then 90% of the people you see at the gym would look like that. Don't be ignorant.
keep telling yourself its you and not the drugs dude....you'd be wrong.. try 80% minimum thanks to gear... i spent alot of time on gear and off gear...years in both states...
whilst off i was never even close to while on...and i had time to come off, get clean, get back to normal homeostatis adn start adding muscle again beyond the dip and regain of being on....takes balls to the wall training, dieting and discipline to make muscle without gear and even then it still might not happen...
gimme a sniff of test or sust or dbol and i add a pound of muscle...its that light and day...and i never touched GH or anything else...
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Squad members and Adonis you can hold your ALL DRUGS comments....im looking for an intelligent and somewhat possibly extensive answer
''ALL DRUGS"...hahaha...not really, if that was the case, every single GORILLAS and BABOONS at the local GYM would look like that ;D
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as far as getting you skin tight i have heard that staying in near contest shape all year round is the key. will harris for example would blow up to 320 plus pounds off season then diet down to under 225 as an amatuer. his skin was alittle loose around his abs. as i said i believe gh plays a major role in this