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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2007, 04:49:10 PM »
i actually started a thread on conditioning on the steriod board. when i think of conditioning i think of dorain and now phil heath. i believe gh has alot to do with it. but my guess would be genetics also..thats the only answer to that tight skin look they have

Genetics plays a huge part of the game, If your receptors don't respond, they don't respond.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #76 on: April 04, 2007, 04:50:04 PM »
Genetics plays a huge part of the game, If your receptors don't respond, they don't respond.


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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2007, 04:51:05 PM »
Magoo, this clown is so easy, I can just cut and paste flames from my previous posts.  They are all applicable to this toolbox.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #78 on: April 04, 2007, 04:57:54 PM »
Magoo, this clown is so easy, I can just cut and paste flames from my previous posts.  They are all applicable to this toolbox.

honestly, my biggest pet peeve in a debate is when someone repeatedly changes the focal point so they can attempt to be right about something and then claim they won the environment. if you say something and then get proven wrong, man the fuck up and concede you were wrong, i don't get why this idiot won't accept that.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2007, 05:01:01 PM »
honestly, my biggest pet peeve in a debate is when someone repeatedly changes the focal point so they can attempt to be right about something and then claim they won the environment. if you say something and then get proven wrong, man the fuck up and concede you were wrong, i don't get why this idiot won't accept that.

It's because he's an Internet Einstein.  Plus he mentioned something along the lines of being 170, so he is truly a tiny tit and rages out against anyone that is over 200.  Monster jealousy from a highschool kid that thinks he's smart cause he has a coulple of AP classes. 
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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2007, 05:07:13 PM »
How retarded all these replies are.....As if you can just take some drugs and look like that. I take all sorts of shit and many of my friends/acquantances do as well. Not scared to take anything. Further, if given a recipe of drugs to get that huge and ripped, I would do it. It isn't that easy.
    I always hear all the natural guys say...."of, hes just that big because he takes steroids...if I took them I would look even better than that"......unfortunately its a lot more difficult than that. Also, who less qualified to comment on it than those who HAVEN"T taken the drugs in question? You can take as many drugs as you want, but unless you get everythint else down to a tee(diet, exercise, precontest prep, and most importantly your genetics) you are not going to get those kind of results. If it were as simple as "all drugs" then 90% of the people you see at the gym would look like that. Don't be ignorant.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2007, 05:19:23 PM »
doison i've already argued with you once and handily proved you wrong (remember the 19 year old college ball player deep squatting over 600 pounds for reps?), but we'll dance again briefly.

you said:

"How is protein the building blocks of muscle?  Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in? "

dballn and i pointed out that actin and myosin ARE amino acids. you refuted that the body is 60% protein, i linked to an article that says it is (in dry weight).

now you're changing the debate so you can be right about something. your subsequent posts had nothing to do with what was said earlier. stop that, it's a piss poor way of arguing.

My question was of the rhetorical sort. 
I know that myosin and actin are proteins. 
I was asking a specific person "how" this is so. 

I did not need someone to post a wikipedia article on something they have no real knowledge of.  That is not 'dancing,' that is pointless drivel. 

You have no idea what the argument is, so stop attempting to moderate it.

You do not know how or why myosin and actin are proteins. 
You know how to do a search for the answer.  This is not arguing. 

Perhaps you could refute my claims on my diet?  Specifical the reasons why the extremely high carbohydrate, extremely low protein approach will not work? 

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2007, 05:22:51 PM »
honestly, my biggest pet peeve in a debate is when someone repeatedly changes the focal point so they can attempt to be right about something and then claim they won the environment. if you say something and then get proven wrong, man the fuck up and concede you were wrong, i don't get why this idiot won't accept that.

You are utterly clueless my chubby, low totalin' friend. 

If I ask "how" 2 + 2 = 4, do you REALLY think I don't know that 2 + 2 =4? 
That is the essence of my original question. 

The fact is, you have no point of reference for anything I've said. 
I have stated no falcities in any of my posts.  I asked someone who was quick to refute the benefits of my diet approach "why" and "how" his stated facts were true.   He obviously had no answer, nor did anyone else, save for a search online (which by the way, resulted in ambiguous half truths that you were none the wiser to notice)

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2007, 05:24:15 PM »
It's because he's an Internet Einstein.  Plus he mentioned something along the lines of being 170, so he is truly a tiny tit and rages out against anyone that is over 200.  Monster jealousy from a highschool kid that thinks he's smart cause he has a coulple of AP classes. 

You've lost.

I'm on to ZachG and his 1750 total.
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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2007, 05:31:27 PM »
well yea i will say drugs had a big role in that physique. however so did genetics,diet,training, and rest. not anybody can take drugs and look like that it still requires work. steroids aren't a magical injection that allows you to sit on the couch and get huge. i don't use AAS myself but to every huge mother fu**** out there who does congrats, you not only poked yourself with a needle, but you put in some hard work and dedication. steroids without training dieting and rest= nothing but shrunk balls.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2007, 05:56:39 PM »
You've lost.

I'm on to ZachG and his 1750 total.

you know, i've already explained what your problem is, and once before i took you down a peg, so i'm not going to concern myself with this any more. sure, we've lost. hope you get a better night's sleep now.  ::)

i didn't need to get in depth because your statements were patently false/stupid. you say the body isn't 60% protein, i find a doctor who says it is. you say muscles aren't made of protein, then list two proteins and say muscles are made of them. if you wanted to talk about something else, you should have said that but you didn't.

by the way, did your 700+ pound deadlifting "friend" ever enter that competition?

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2007, 06:30:43 PM »
I give that guy credit.  There's no way I could pound myself in the ass on a daily basis like that.  Props!
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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2007, 06:33:53 PM »
Good genes
diet
cardio
good gear


Exactly. Good genes means being able to building a lot of muscle naturally combined with a phenominal genetic response to the drugs.
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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2007, 07:45:56 PM »





so, by your half baked theory, every one of my clients that is currently consuming less calories than they burn, will eventually look like silvio!!! please remove your head from your rectum!!

No chance of that, Dave. I think he likes it up there.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2007, 09:11:35 PM »
Eastcoast - If you're not being sarcastic, then yes....you speak the truth.  If you don't have the genetics, none of the other stuff will work for you.  Rankings sift out the crap.  Almost anyone on Juice can do a level 1 show.  But you have to have some pretty good genetics to place in a Level 5.  And then only the winner of the overall can win a procard.  

So all this talk from guys/gals on here stating "I could be a pro if I took that amount of juice" is complete BS.  If you don't have the receptor affinity for the drugs, they simply ain't going to work for ya.  Hope this helps.







nope. i wasnt being sarcastic. you had listed the same elements in the same order as i did. i also agree with everything else you said in this post. i have been in an overall posedown for a pro card twice in my career so i can speak with decent clarity on what it takes to get there.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #90 on: April 04, 2007, 09:15:36 PM »
Where do you get that 60%??
Wouldn't that number be largely dependant on the muscle mass of that individual? 

How is protein the building blocks of muscle?  Muscle is myosin and actin, where do amino acids come in?
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the 60 percent was a generalization, much like when it is said that the body is 75 percent water. of course this number varies a bit from person to person.


 if not protein, then what other nutrient helps to heal the micro tears incurred during progressive resistance training??


by the way, actin and myosin are also known as "contractile PROTEINS"

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #91 on: April 04, 2007, 09:22:50 PM »
TA has a lot of intelligent things to say and some which are not correct.  TA said that when I lost 20 pounds due to pnemonia that I was "half way there" implying that I had lost mostly fat.  ::)

I assure you, I lost at least 12 pounds of 100% PURE muscle mass with the rest being fat and water and that is exactly what I'm gaining back now.

you're a fool to believe that.  You just  lost water and glycogen.  You don't lose pounds of muscle that easily.

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« Reply #92 on: April 04, 2007, 09:28:39 PM »
I ate about one day's worth of food in two weeks.  It was difficult for me to eat.  I didn't even have the energy to get up and get food in addition to that.  I basically starved myself (not by choice).  Yes, I definitely lost muscle.  It would be different if I was at least consuming some amount of calories, but I was not.

When many people begin a diet (are in a deficit) they lose 10-12lbs in the first 2-3 weeks after eating well above maintenance for awhile.   It's water and glycogen.

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« Reply #93 on: April 04, 2007, 09:30:09 PM »
plus if you were eating the same amount of calories you would have gained fat.

You were not lifting weights and you were less active being sick so you required significantly less calories.

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #94 on: April 04, 2007, 09:37:28 PM »
Scratch what I said above - I probably did lose more fat than muscle, but I definitely lost a lot of muscle.  And even if I did just gain back fat and water, I look a lot more muscular now than I did before.  Call me fat and happy.  8)

I thought you were dieting now?

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #95 on: April 04, 2007, 09:42:55 PM »
Nah.  I would have, but I had two simple requests from TA: verify his B.S degree in Physics and verify his deadlift claim.

what's that have to do with you dieting?

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #96 on: April 05, 2007, 03:45:12 AM »
Drink 2 full cups of Bleach.  Turn on the television and wait for the results.  ;D
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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #97 on: April 05, 2007, 04:04:44 AM »
You're not very intelligent are you? 


Perfectly fine. 
The world needs mediocrity just as much as it needs brilliance.

I hold no ill feelings.  I will gladly engage in a friendly bull session with you while you process my order at Arby's. 

I noticed you mentioned you don't eat any protein.

How will you avoid getting protein from the food when eating at Arby's?

What will you order there that contains no protein?

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2007, 04:13:28 AM »
I noticed you mentioned you don't eat any protein.

How will you avoid getting protein from the food when eating at Arby's?

What will you order there that contains no protein?

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A non-beef....beef sandwich?  ;D

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Re: How is it POSSIBLE to attain this condition?
« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2007, 07:34:59 AM »
Because he thinks there is some sort of mystery or secret when he doesn`t realize that you just have to eat low calories.

thats just bullshit
eating low calories u will look like a flat tire, you cant have fullness by eating low calories
sure u can look like silvio for 1 day after a week of carb loading but not everyday