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Title: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Hedgehog on April 05, 2007, 01:46:44 PM
doison claims that he can eat whatever he wants, yet get ripped.

Tell us more about this doison.

-Hedge
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: wolfgang187 on April 05, 2007, 01:52:05 PM
How I achieved my goal of 4% body fat by eating peanuts out of my own shit.

By The True Adonis

You might say this is pretty astonishing, but then you might be one of those mere ignorami who subscribe to the idea that you’ve got to ‘eat right’ to lose weight. Well, I’m here to blow holes in that silly myth. I achieved 4 % body fat by eating the peanuts, pea husks, and other caloric legumes out of my own shit. Oh, and with a little Vodka sauce, which is a combination of savory tomatoes, olive oil, cheeses, basil, garlic, oregano and a kick of vodka. Emeril has some very good vodka sauce. I eat it all the time, with the peanuts out of my own shit, of course.

You see, a calorie is calorie, and one simply needs to consume less calories, no matter what they are, than one burns. Cardio is not necessary, because I have this ‘equation’ wherein I consider the thermal and mechanical output of my body, calculate my basal metabolic rate, and simply eat less than that.

Eating the peanuts out of my own shit makes it even easier. This is because I get the full caloric value out of the legume, instead of this mythological “calorie value” you’re supposed to get from the first time around. I find it takes at least three passages to get the full flavor and caloric content from my legumes.

Sometimes I eat the peanuts out of my own shit with a Burger King Whopper. Of course, then I’m eating the sesame seeds out of my own shit for a day or two, which are quite good with Vodka sauce…Did I mention that Emeril has some very good vodka sauce?


QUOTED 2007
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: The Heckler on April 05, 2007, 01:54:31 PM
How I achieved my goal of 4% body fat by eating peanuts out of my own shit.

By The True Adonis

You might say this is pretty astonishing, but then you might be one of those mere ignorami who subscribe to the idea that you’ve got to ‘eat right’ to lose weight. Well, I’m here to blow holes in that silly myth. I achieved 4 % body fat by eating the peanuts, pea husks, and other caloric legumes out of my own shit. Oh, and with a little Vodka sauce, which is a combination of savory tomatoes, olive oil, cheeses, basil, garlic, oregano and a kick of vodka. Emeril has some very good vodka sauce. I eat it all the time, with the peanuts out of my own shit, of course.

You see, a calorie is calorie, and one simply needs to consume less calories, no matter what they are, than one burns. Cardio is not necessary, because I have this ‘equation’ wherein I consider the thermal and mechanical output of my body, calculate my basal metabolic rate, and simply eat less than that.

Eating the peanuts out of my own shit makes it even easier. This is because I get the full caloric value out of the legume, instead of this mythological “calorie value” you’re supposed to get from the first time around. I find it takes at least three passages to get the full flavor and caloric content from my legumes.

Sometimes I eat the peanuts out of my own shit with a Burger King Whopper. Of course, then I’m eating the sesame seeds out of my own shit for a day or two, which are quite good with Vodka sauce…Did I mention that Emeril has some very good vodka sauce?


QUOTED 2007

hahaha the fact that you would make up that whole thing shows just how much Adonis owns your mind
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: doison on April 05, 2007, 01:55:06 PM
The intricities will be explained in due time.  

The basis of the "guidelines" are as follows:
VERY low protein
supplement with Keto Acids
EXTREMELY high monosaccharide/disaccharide intake
as much fat as there happens to be in the foods you enjoy.  

The extreme insulin release causes a state of extreme anti-catabolism.  Muscle breakdown is physiologically impossible when insulin is present, and with our extreme levels of insulin, there are very few insulin receptors untouched.  

With catabolism effectively cut off on all levels, ANY protein consumed will used to synthesise new protein, assuming a stimulus for growth is present.  

We eat no protein on purpose, and the keto acids we consume will cover the lack of essential amino acids we will consume.  

Protein is at roughly 10-20g per day, which will create a growth potential of up to 600g per month.  

600g of brand new muscle growth, each and every month, even when getting leaner.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: nukkaready on April 05, 2007, 01:59:22 PM
The intricities will be explained in due time.  

The basis of the "guidelines" are as follows:
VERY low protein
supplement with Keto Acids
EXTREMELY high monosaccharide/disaccharide intake
as much fat as there happens to be in the foods you enjoy.  

The extreme insulin release causes a state of extreme anti-catabolism.  Muscle breakdown is physiologically impossible when insulin is present, and with our extreme levels of insulin, there are very few insulin receptors untouched.  

With catabolism effectively cut off on all levels, ANY protein consumed will used to synthesise new protein, assuming a stimulus for growth is present.  

We eat no protein on purpose, and the keto acids we consume will cover the lack of essential amino acids we will consume.  

Protein is at roughly 10-20g per day, which will create a growth potential of up to 600g per month.  

600g of brand new muscle growth, each and every month, even when getting leaner.

UNBELIEVABLE... TA (crazy) has gone to Doison (insane) to... ??? (???) ... oh well... to be continued. this is worth any admission fee... funny stuff.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: wolfgang187 on April 05, 2007, 02:12:02 PM
hahaha the fact that you would make up that whole thing shows just how much Adonis owns your mind



is that the best you have
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: doison on April 05, 2007, 02:17:57 PM
UNBELIEVABLE... TA (crazy) has gone to Doison (insane) to... ??? (???) ... oh well... to be continued. this is worth any admission fee... funny stuff.

What can you find wrong in that?
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 05, 2007, 02:22:36 PM
just outta curiosity doison... if this diet worked like you said it does, why take in such little protein? wouldn't taking in 40g a day be better? 50? since every gram is synthesized, why limit yourself?
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: doison on April 05, 2007, 02:29:44 PM
just outta curiosity doison... if this diet worked like you said it does, why take in such little protein? wouldn't taking in 40g a day be better? 50? since every gram is synthesized, why limit yourself?

You can't take in enough monosaccharides and disaccharides to create the anti-catabolic environment where every gram of protein is used for the synthesis of new protein. 

You can take the extra protein, but you increase the likelyhood of two options:
1: the extra protein is extra calories that aren't effeciently used, and you gain fat
2: the extra protein is at the expense of your simple sugar intake, and you create a need for gluconeogenesis, and some of the protein ingested is converted to glucose for energy.  This creates a smaller insulin release, again decreasing the total anti-catabolic state, and the protein that isn't converted to glucose has less of a chance to be used for new muscle synthesis.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 05, 2007, 02:33:11 PM
so somehow... you're claiming that by taking in 20g of protein per day at the most, and by making most of your calories come from saccharides, i can eat whatever i want and get lean.

here's a question for both you AND adonis: why do you assume that "eating whatever i want" means starchy sweets and nothing high protein? eating whatever i want, to me, means a big fuckin steak covered in A1 sauce or a triple-layered cheeseburger, not a goddamn cake and a glass of sugar water.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: doison on April 05, 2007, 02:36:01 PM
so somehow... you're claiming that by taking in 20g of protein per day at the most, and by making most of your calories come from saccharides, i can eat whatever i want and get lean.

here's a question for both you AND adonis: why do you assume that "eating whatever i want" means starchy sweets and nothing high protein? eating whatever i want, to me, means a big fuckin steak covered in A1 sauce or a triple-layered cheeseburger, not a goddamn cake and a glass of sugar water.

Your anger will only slow your gains. 
Anger raises key signal pathways in the body that cause in increase in sympathetic nervous system stimulation.  This creates an environment where the body is in an energy using state, as opposed to an energy storing state. 
Since carbohydrates and fats already keep their primary purpose in the body of use for energy, this increase in energy usage comes from proteins. 
Thus, your anger is slowing your gains. 

Much of your lack of gains is explained in your posts. 
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: wolfgang187 on April 05, 2007, 02:40:24 PM
Your anger will only slow your gains. 
Anger raises key signal pathways in the body that cause in increase in sympathetic nervous system stimulation.  This creates an environment where the body is in an energy using state, as opposed to an energy storing state. 
Since carbohydrates and fats already keep their primary purpose in the body of use for energy, this increase in energy usage comes from proteins. 
Thus, your anger is slowing your gains. 

Much of your lack of gains is explained in your posts. 



HEY BRO YOU SHOULD TRY A CORTISOL BLOCKER FROM LILLY
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 05, 2007, 02:42:56 PM
Your anger will only slow your gains. 
Anger raises key signal pathways in the body that cause in increase in sympathetic nervous system stimulation.  This creates an environment where the body is in an energy using state, as opposed to an energy storing state. 
Since carbohydrates and fats already keep their primary purpose in the body of use for energy, this increase in energy usage comes from proteins. 
Thus, your anger is slowing your gains. 

Much of your lack of gains is explained in your posts. 

a general observation: why is it that everyone on this board with some ridiculous/radical diet plan is also a pretentious nutjob?  ::)

oh, and way to not answer my question. still believe that a 675x10 squat would make luke wood the strongest man on the planet?  ::)
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: doison on April 05, 2007, 02:45:44 PM
oh, and way to not answer my question. still believe that a 675x10 squat would make luke wood the strongest man on the planet?  ::)

The stated quote was "Luke Wood can do 675x10 without breaking a sweat." 
And yes, I believe that no one on the planet can squat 7 plates a side for 10 without breaking a sweat.

Who do you know that can do that? 
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: The Enigma on April 05, 2007, 02:54:00 PM
UNBELIEVABLE... TA (crazy) has gone to Doison (insane) to... ??? (???) ... oh well... to be continued. this is worth any admission fee... funny stuff.

TA's insanity makes for interesting reading.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: The Heckler on April 05, 2007, 03:18:35 PM


HEY BRO YOU SHOULD TRY A CORTISOL BLOCKER FROM LILLY

HEY BRO YOU SHOULD TRY CLICKING ON THAT CAPS LOCK KEY
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 05, 2007, 03:22:40 PM
so somehow... you're claiming that by taking in 20g of protein per day at the most, and by making most of your calories come from saccharides, i can eat whatever i want and get lean.

here's a question for both you AND adonis: why do you assume that "eating whatever i want" means starchy sweets and nothing high protein? eating whatever i want, to me, means a big fuckin steak covered in A1 sauce or a triple-layered cheeseburger, not a goddamn cake and a glass of sugar water.
I agree.

Look at these Gems of mine!

Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 05, 2007, 03:23:23 PM
doison, according to these new principles of yours, are you saying you can put on 100% lean muscle with absolutely zero fat gain if you eat just carbs and fat?  am i getting this right?
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 05, 2007, 03:23:39 PM
so somehow... you're claiming that by taking in 20g of protein per day at the most, and by making most of your calories come from saccharides, i can eat whatever i want and get lean.

here's a question for both you AND adonis: why do you assume that "eating whatever i want" means starchy sweets and nothing high protein? eating whatever i want, to me, means a big fuckin steak covered in A1 sauce or a triple-layered cheeseburger, not a goddamn cake and a glass of sugar water.
A-1 is nasty.

I like Wine-sauces.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 05, 2007, 03:36:28 PM
We cook gourmet meals every single day!
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: tleilaxutank on April 05, 2007, 03:49:51 PM
Fag



Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Sir William Idol on April 05, 2007, 03:55:07 PM
epic recipe for diabetes
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Theoak* on April 05, 2007, 06:01:10 PM
I agree.

Look at these Gems of mine!



Good god that looks nice.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 05, 2007, 07:06:17 PM
Good god that looks nice.

yes, McDonalds really has improved their menu!
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 05, 2007, 07:29:39 PM
A-1 is nasty.

I like Wine-sauces.
Epic truth.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: beatmaster on April 05, 2007, 07:30:40 PM
yes, McDonalds really has improved their menu!

lollllll, funny he never did anything with mc d
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Necrosis on April 05, 2007, 07:53:14 PM
are the doison principles better then the adonis principles?
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: beatmaster on April 05, 2007, 08:16:40 PM

can we have an exemple of what you eat in one day or more (foods) and whats are you cheats?
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: canadaphiliac on April 05, 2007, 08:35:15 PM
are the doison principles better then the adonis principles?
Doth a bear crapeth in the forest?
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 05, 2007, 08:44:18 PM
We cook gourmet meals every single day!

Benefits of unlimited free time.
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Hedgehog on April 06, 2007, 03:01:26 AM
The intricities will be explained in due time. 

The basis of the "guidelines" are as follows:
VERY low protein
supplement with Keto Acids
EXTREMELY high monosaccharide/disaccharide intake
as much fat as there happens to be in the foods you enjoy. 

The extreme insulin release causes a state of extreme anti-catabolism.  Muscle breakdown is physiologically impossible when insulin is present, and with our extreme levels of insulin, there are very few insulin receptors untouched. 

With catabolism effectively cut off on all levels, ANY protein consumed will used to synthesise new protein, assuming a stimulus for growth is present. 

We eat no protein on purpose, and the keto acids we consume will cover the lack of essential amino acids we will consume. 

Protein is at roughly 10-20g per day, which will create a growth potential of up to 600g per month. 

600g of brand new muscle growth, each and every month, even when getting leaner.

Interesting.

Seems like we now have a battle between the DOISON principles and the Abeles principles.

Always good to see a new guy on the block.

-Hedge
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: doison on April 06, 2007, 09:39:33 AM
My goal is to have 30 inch arms at 3.5% bodyfat year round natural.  I want to be able to walk 10 miles on my hands per day without breaking a sweat.  I know when I appy these principles all of this will happen.

Thank you for the support. 
Many scoff at the genius of one. 

You will be handily rewarded by following these guidelines. 

I set new PR's in every lift last night...
My meal plan for the day?
4 2-liters of mountain dew, Arby's curly fries at 3 different times during the day, and keto acids with each curly fry meal. 

All will be astounded when my photos at 2% bodyfat are posted. 
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Necrosis on April 06, 2007, 11:20:29 AM
Thank you for the support. 
Many scoff at the genius of one. 

You will be handily rewarded by following these guidelines. 

I set new PR's in every lift last night...
My meal plan for the day?
4 2-liters of mountain dew, Arby's curly fries at 3 different times during the day, and keto acids with each curly fry meal. 

All will be astounded when my photos at 2% bodyfat are posted. 

never heard of something so radical. sounds like a unique approach
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: doison on April 06, 2007, 11:26:55 AM
never heard of something so radical. sounds like a unique approach


Unique, and backed 100% by scientific literature.

No peer-reviewed medical journal promotes high protein diets for increases in muscle mass. 

What people fail to realize is that ANTI-CATABOLISM is MORE IMPORTANT than anabolism! 
With my diet, a diffuse anti-catabolic environment is created on every cell that has an insulin receptor. 

This means that it is IMPOSSIBLE to lose muscle while on my diet. 
And ANY protein ingested will be used entirely for synthesis of new muscle tissue!

It's SO SIMPLE!
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: the Pure Majestic on April 06, 2007, 11:30:32 AM
Unique, and backed 100% by scientific literature.

No peer-reviewed medical journal promotes high protein diets for increases in muscle mass. 

What people fail to realize is that ANTI-CATABOLISM is MORE IMPORTANT than anabolism! 
With my diet, a diffuse anti-catabolic environment is created on every cell that has an insulin receptor. 

This means that it is IMPOSSIBLE to lose muscle while on my diet. 
And ANY protein ingested will be used entirely for synthesis of new muscle tissue!

It's SO SIMPLE!

I have been following these principles for the last 10 weeks, and am bigger and leaner than I have ever been. 

I eat what I want all day, and improve at the quickest rate possible. 

It's so simple!
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: Debussey on April 06, 2007, 11:31:34 AM
I have been following these principles for the last 10 weeks, and am bigger and leaner than I have ever been. 

I eat what I want all day, and improve at the quickest rate possible. 

It's so simple!
Hey there Adonis
Title: Re: What are the DOISON principles?
Post by: the Pure Majestic on April 06, 2007, 11:33:22 AM
Hey there Adonis

While "Adonis" may be an appropriate title for the physique I have created over the past 2.5 months. 
But, I assure you I am not Adam.