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Its not place for you.
You always come here and bitching about juicers and fuck up whole thread.
If you dont bitching about juicers every time,your comment are interesting and well appriciated.
If you want to stay here, i think you had better understand it.
Anybody against my opinion,welcome.
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True, that is annoying, but Croatch is such a fan of fake breasts, we should probably keep him around.
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True, that is annoying, but Croatch is such a fan of fake breasts, we should probably keep him around.
haha. One of very few. I also hate fake breasts though..Taste bad also.
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Its not place for you.
You always come here and bitching about juicers and fuck up whole thread.
If you dont bitching about juicers every time,your comment are interesting and well appriciated.
If you want to stay here, i think you had better understand it.
Anybody against my opinion,welcome.
calm down my little oriental friend, it aint that important, have some Sake and relax.
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calm down my little oriental friend, it aint that important, have some Sake and relax.
Hehe thanx dad. ;D
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the funny thing is that he admits to using steroids.
Just for 3 months in the 90s, where he gained 30 pounds of bulk in one summer, I believe.
For this reason, he should be considered a "clean" bodybuilder, not "natural".
There is no re-cherrying your prom date.
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Honestly, according to my almost 20 years of experience,Juices are very psycological.
When people do cycle, they get possitive and eat,sleep and train very well to the high level which cant even compare with their natural state.
And they say"Look at how testoviron go!Look at how oxitosona go!".
How they get big?Because of sleep?Food?Training? or positive mental attitude or JUice?
I still dont know.
And remember many many juicers are small too.
I really dont know the truth.
In here Spain,people used to juicing like using water because they sold juices in drug store!
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Dude are you implying that getbig is an all steroid forum? I'm a natural, and i sure in hell wouldn't want "the big shots aka drug users" talk up steroids and have the younger kids read up on it and get influenced to take them. Then again i'm not knocking on those who take drugs, but just saying it's all fair in play if we have all kinds of "opinions" on this board wherever something's being discussed.
I mean this is getbig, the center of "media" in BB. Not a forum for people to get together and talk about "steroids" only. I'm pretty sure there's specific forums for just that dude.
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Dude are you implying that getbig is an all steroid forum? I'm a natural, and i sure in hell wouldn't want "the big shots aka drug users" talk up steroids and have the younger kids read up on it and get influenced to take them. Then again i'm not knocking on those who take drugs, but just saying it's all fair in play if we have all kinds of "opinions" on this board wherever something's being discussed.
I mean this is getbig, the center of "media" in BB. Not a forum for people to get together and talk about "steroids" only. I'm pretty sure there's specific forums for just that dude.
I understand you and i am natural too.
Of course you can talk and insist the natural BBing way of life.
But,NOT EVERY TIME!!
For ex.
If we are talking about Milos training and his special drink.
He fuck up with his famous comment and we cant hear what he want to say.
That attitude fuck you and me.
Thats what i want to say.
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I understand you and i am natural too.
Of course you can talk and insist the natural BBing way of life.
But,NOT EVERY TIME!!
For ex.
If we are talking about Milos training and his special drink.
He fuck up with his famous comment and we cant hear what he want to say.
That attitude fuck you and me.
Thats what i want to say.
Ah then i guess you and croatch have some things to discuss dude ;D
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Its not place for you.
You always come here and bitching about juicers and fuck up whole thread.
If you dont bitching about juicers every time,your comment are interesting and well appriciated.
If you want to stay here, i think you had better understand it.
It's not the fact that he hates people who use gear it's just that he makes the same comments about juicers. I don't know why it bothers him so much. Who cares really what someone else does or doesn't do?
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Jealousy, envy, etc...
Thats why he sucks when he comment about natural. He comment with those feelings.
Spiritualy smell really bad.
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Nothing more annoying than people who advocate their morals whenever they get the chance.
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Nothing more annoying than people who advocate their morals whenever they get the chance.
Very correct. They stink for their insecurity
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Jealousy, envy, etc...
Self-hatred? Cliche, perhaps, but seems to be rife around here. :-\
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Dude are you implying that getbig is an all steroid forum? I'm a natural, and i sure in hell wouldn't want "the big shots aka drug users" talk up steroids and have the younger kids read up on it and get influenced to take them. Then again i'm not knocking on those who take drugs, but just saying it's all fair in play if we have all kinds of "opinions" on this board wherever something's being discussed.
I mean this is getbig, the center of "media" in BB. Not a forum for people to get together and talk about "steroids" only. I'm pretty sure there's specific forums for just that dude.
Naturally obese.
Why don`t you listen to the Lifetime Natural pros on the OCB board who are OWNING you about your fat?
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Naturally obese.
Why don`t you listen to the Lifetime Natural pros on the OCB board who are OWNING you about your fat?
Thats like asking you to listen to EVERYONE who says you are stupid and full of shit. EVERYONE has owned you so far on Getbig. Being an easy target makes its easy though. Try proving something instead of just letting the shit dribble out of your mouth.
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Naturally obese.
Why don`t you listen to the Lifetime Natural pros on the OCB board who are OWNING you about your fat?
Owning me about my fat ??? Really, hmm strange. But i do know that you got PERMANENTLY banned with your "adonis principles" . "monkey exercises", "trolling as an attention whore" & last but not least saying you're "god's gift to BB" among the natural pros hahahaha epic entertainment dude
;D
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Naturally obese.
Why don`t you listen to the Lifetime Natural pros on the OCB board who are OWNING you about your fat?
whats the OCB board?
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Naturally obese.
Why don`t you listen to the Lifetime Natural pros on the OCB board who are OWNING you about your fat?
huh?
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Everything that clown types is trashing people who uses gear. I guess his experience with gear didnt turn out to good.
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It's not the fact that he hates people who use gear it's just that he makes the same comments about juicers. I don't know why it bothers him so much. Who cares really what someone else does or doesn't do?
Jealousy, envy, etc...
I don't exactly hate all people who use gear, though I do make generalizations.
Jealous of someone who looks worse than me and taking shots every day to get there, that's kind of tough.
Envy...how could you envy someone who relies soley on drugs to build any kind of decent...or mediocre physique?
Nothing more annoying than people who advocate their morals whenever they get the chance.
Very correct. They stink for their insecurity
It's not a moral thing, it's just so simple to gain muscle on gear there really is no challenge. I find it laughable when guys walk around like they achieved something great by taking some dbol and putting on 20lbs of bloat...ahah It's honestly pathetic and everything I'm not about. Bodybuilding should be about pushing yourself and getting past plateaus, etc. What it's become today is a complete joke.
Drugs are so abundant in gyms today, it makes me shake my head every time I enter Gold's. Everyone and their "hardcore" training, bloated to shit, "I compete" attitude. These guys can't attain squat without drug use, or at least 8 of 10. To me, these people are weak individuals who need something to validate some kind of accomplishment, so drugs are an easy way to get some kind of attention with little work, yet many still look like horseshit. Have some integrity and see what you really have, stop the drugs and get real man.
Point is, anyone can get semi jacked on gear, so what. Nobody cares, just like nobody gives a shit I'm natural/clean. I know what I've accomplished without the use of drugs and even it if were 5lbs. of muscle, I know it's all me. Something most juicers will never know.
So, it's not a moral thing, but more like, where is the accomplishment in gaining some shitty size with mass quantities of drugs? Like I've said, Gaining muscle on steroids is like getting fat from eating pizza, neither are very hard.
Croatch on...
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I don't exactly hate all people who use gear, though I do make generalizations.
Jealous of someone who looks worse than me and taking shots every day to get there, that's kind of tough.
Envy...how could you envy someone who relies soley on drugs to build any kind of decent...or mediocre physique?It's not a moral thing, it's just so simple to gain muscle on gear there really is no challenge. I find it laughable when guys walk around like they achieved something great by taking some dbol and putting on 20lbs of bloat...ahah It's honestly pathetic and everything I'm not about. Bodybuilding should be about pushing yourself and getting past plateaus, etc. What it's become today is a complete joke.
Drugs are so abundant in gyms today, it makes me shake my head every time I enter Gold's. Everyone and their "hardcore" training, bloated to shit, "I compete" attitude. These guys can't attain squat without drug use, or at least 8 of 10. To me, these people are weak individuals who need something to validate some kind of accomplishment, so drugs are an easy way to get some kind of attention with little work, yet many still look like horseshit. Have some integrity and see what you really have, stop the drugs and get real man.
Point is, anyone can get semi jacked on gear, so what. Nobody cares, just like nobody gives a shit I'm natural/clean. I know what I've accomplished without the use of drugs and even it if were 5lbs. of muscle, I know it's all me. Something most juicers will never know.
So, it's not a moral thing, but more like, where is the accomplishment in gaining some shitty size with mass quantities of drugs? Like I've said, Gaining muscle on steroids is like getting fat from eating pizza, neither are very hard.
Croatch on...
Blah blah blah. all talk and nothing.
Why dont you compete once?
I have competed several times and beat many juicers.
Why dont you do it too?
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Blah blah blah. all talk and nothing.
Why dont you compete once?
I have competed several times and beat many juicers.
Why dont you do it too?
Monster accomplishment man. Congratulations on your beauty pageant win. Honestly, I could careless about competing, it means nothing to me. I've never had any desire to compete. The last thing I need is a trophy to validate my physique.
Remember, placing 2nd in the Orange County Division 3 Lightweight Class, isn't the Olympia.
Hope this helps.
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Monster accomplishment man. Congratulations on your beauty pageant win. Honestly, I could careless about competing, it means nothing to me. I've never had any desire to compete. The last thing I need is a trophy to validate my physique.
Remember, placing 2nd in the Orange County Division 3 Lightweight Class, isn't the Olympia.
Hope this helps.
So you want us to treat you like Ronnie Coleman for your natural bbing accomplishment?
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croatch, have you ever taken steroids?
According to 240, YES.
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Yeah, tried a cycle in 94' for 2 months. Realized any douchebag could gain muscle on these, then became a man and trained naturally...hha
In all honesty though, gaining 5lbs naturally/without drugs is much tougher than 20lbs on dbol. That's kind of the point. Plus, look around most gyms and see how many guys put on 15lbs in a few months through gear, these guys are a dime a dozen and get no respect from me.
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Yeah, tried a cycle in 94' for 2 months. Realized any douchebag could gain muscle on these, then became a man and trained naturally...hha
In all honesty though, gaining 5lbs naturally/without drugs is much tougher than 20lbs on dbol. That's kind of the point. Plus, look around most gyms and see how many guys put on 15lbs in a few months through gear, these guys are a dime a dozen and get no respect from me.
Why do you care what other people do?
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Why do you care what other people do?
That's the question I'd like answered too. Why does it matter what someone else does?.
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because he criticizes people for doing the same as him.
So it would seem but it's usually the same comments over & over. I'd like to hear/see something new (at the vary least).
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Maybe he is hiding some truth like...
He wanted to keep on juicing, but he had a health problem or removed his gyno...etc.Then he couldnt juice up anymore.
Then he act like this.
Because his attitude is totaly look like those who are jealous about something he wanted to have and failed to have.
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There is no re-cherrying your prom date.
Even is you pray to Jesus REAL HARD?
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Why do you care what other people do?
Yes, why do you care what I post? hahah, Quite possibly the dumbest comment around. Everyone to some degree cares what other people do, it's called civilization.
I now have no respect for your "physique"
you look like shit for a juicer, and what little you do have is all drugs.
go play in traffic
hope this helps
Did one cycle 13 years ago and kept none of the gains, then dropping to nothing @150lbs, now I'm 208 @8%bf. So from A-B without drugs.
So no, the little 58lbs lean gain was all me and no drugs. Playing in traffic is awesome!
Maybe he is hiding some truth like...
He wanted to keep on juicing, but he had a health problem or removed his gyno...etc.Then he couldnt juice up anymore.
Then he act like this.
Because his attitude is totaly look like those who are jealous about something he wanted to have and failed to have.
I wish that was the case and you were right, I would just say, yeah...that's kind of it. In actuality though, I'm not jealous of 2nd rate juiceheads, I almost laugh at them. How can you be jealous of someone who doesn't look as good as you and takes drugs to get there?
Could it be I feel lifting shouldn't be about drugs and people confuse hardcore drug use with dedication? Sorry, the whole gym scene is shot and the majority of juicers are clowns in my eyes. Was I a clown at 18, yes...ahah I also used to collect baseball cards then too. Grow up and get real. Gear is for little boys trying to be men. ;)
There is no re-cherrying your prom date.
Even is you pray to Jesus REAL HARD?
I don't care that I'm not considered "natural" by some. I know what I've gained on my own and that's all that really matters. I can't imagine feeling and fulfillment gaining some bloat weight on anabolics. People are just delusional and confuse the drugs with "their own" gains. Clowns man.
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Yes, why do you care what I post? hahah, Quite possibly the dumbest comment around. Everyone to some degree cares what other people do, it's called civilization.Did one cycle 13 years ago and kept none of the gains, then dropping to nothing @150lbs, now I'm 208 @8%bf. So from A-B without drugs.
So no, the little 58lbs lean gain was all me and no drugs. Playing in traffic is awesome!I wish that was the case and you were right, I would just say, yeah...that's kind of it. In actuality though, I'm not jealous of 2nd rate juiceheads, I almost laugh at them. How can you be jealous of someone who doesn't look as good as you and takes drugs to get there?
Could it be I feel lifting shouldn't be about drugs and people confuse hardcore drug use with dedication? Sorry, the whole gym scene is shot and the majority of juicers are clowns in my eyes. Was I a clown at 18, yes...ahah I also used to collect baseball cards then too. Grow up and get real. Gear is for little boys trying to be men. ;)I don't care that I'm not considered "natural" by some. I know what I've gained on my own and that's all that really matters. I can't imagine feeling and fulfillment gaining some bloat weight on anabolics. People are just delusional and confuse the drugs with "their own" gains. Clowns man.
Hey Croach, you dont notice logicaly you are wrong?
OK. I put myself in the point of you and say that juicers get result easily.
Then why you can see many size difference in juicers?Why flex wheeler didnt use like 1 litter of test against ronnie?So Ronnie took 1 gallon?
I know a guy in the gym who use test like water and own shitty body.
Also,
We(You and me) are natural. Now imagine:If both of us use gear to compete,you still train hard and i still train hard. Whats the difference between competing naturaly and using juice? Anyway we would be training hard.
So why dont you see pros with that point of view?They train hard too. Why you want to compare yourself with them?Its totaly nonsence. You are natural BBer. So I am.
If they say:Hey skinny bber,then i would comment same as you. But about effort,they are same hard trainee as natural competitors.
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Hey Croach, you dont notice logicaly you are wrong?
OK. I put myself in the point of you and say that juicers get result easily.
Then why you can see many size difference in juicers?Why flex wheeler didnt use like 1 litter of test against ronnie?So Ronnie took 1 gallon?
I know a guy in the gym who use test like water and own shitty body.
Also,
We(You and me) are natural. Now imagine:If both of us use gear to compete,you still train hard and i still train hard. Whats the difference between competing naturaly and using juice? Anyway we would be training hard.
So why dont you see pros with that point of view?They train hard too. Why you want to compare yourself with them?Its totaly nonsence. You are natural BBer. So I am.
If they say:Hey skinny bber,then i would comment same as you. But about effort,they are same hard trainee as natural competitors.
Agreed. I'm not saying all juicers have no work ethic, but far too many use it as a crutch cause they simply do not have what it takes to make substantial gains without drugs. These guys are pathetic. Just cause you juice, doesn't mean you are. However, the majority who juice are not pro level and usually look like dog shit. Most likely, have a shitty diet on top of that.
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Using steroids is a trade-off, whether people will admit it or not.
People who choose to use are more likely to have health and legal issues, without a doubt.
health - Just like people who ride a motorcycle, drink on the weekends, or work high stress jobs.
legal - Just like people who try to score weed or whatever, it's always there but as are the risks.
It's their choice. I would never hate on anyone for making that choice. Hell, if no one ever used, there would be no sport of bodybuilding to follow. We're all gonna die of the cardiac or the cancer if something manmade doesn't claim us first. If someone chooses to spend their 60 years with 20+ more pounds of muscle and ends up losing 5 years as a trade off, perhaps it's worth it to them.
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Agreed. I'm not saying all juicers have no work ethic, but far too many use it as a crutch cause they simply do not have what it takes to make substantial gains without drugs. These guys are pathetic. Just cause you juice, doesn't mean you are. However, the majority who juice are not pro level and usually look like dog shit. Most likely, have a shitty diet on top of that.
Agreed too. Anyway I want you to admit that There is no easy way, thats why i beat many juicer in contest and i am planning to do it again with heavier weight.
But at the same time, i respect top amateur and top pro.
Anyway, competition is very hard.
Dont talk about gym rat.About them i have same opinion as you. But still we both beat them ,dont we! ;)
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I agree. It's someones choice and if you use gear, I don't automatically dislike you. I have a little less respect for your gains, but that's about it.
The biggest problem with gear is the high number of douchebags who currently take them. Look around and tell me the majority of juicers aren't complete tools.
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Agreed too. Anyway I want you to admit that There is no easy way, thats why i beat many juicer in contest and i am planning to do it again with heavier weight.
But at the same time, i respect top amateur and top pro.
Anyway, competition is very hard.
Dont talk about gym rat.About them i have same opinion as you. But still we both beat them ,dont we! Wink
If the playing field is level, it's not cheating or weak. I just laugh at gym rats who walk around like they won the Arnold cause they found out how to inject themselves with test. It's no accomplishment to ingest drugs, that's my point.
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I agree. It's someones choice and if you use gear, I don't automatically dislike you. I have a little less respect for your gains, but that's about it.
How many people here "have respect" for anyone's gains in the gym?
Honestly, if a guy gains 30 or zero pounds of muscle in a year, I don't notice, nor care. Same if he makes $0 or $500,000 that year. his business, doesn't affect me.
The biggest problem with gear is the high number of douchebags who currently take them. Look around and tell me the majority of juicers aren't complete tools.
The majority of *people* are complete tools. So as a rule, the majority of cab drivers, lawyers, juicers, McDonalds customers, and getbig posters will be douchebags also. It's just how the world is.
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The majority of *people* are complete tools. So as a rule, the majority of cab drivers, lawyers, juicers, McDonalds customers, and getbig posters will be douchebags also. It's just how the world is.
Good taoism answer. ;)
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I think this case is closed.
Thanx to everybody here and you, Croach.
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The majority of *people* are complete tools. So as a rule, the majority of cab drivers, lawyers, juicers, McDonalds customers, and getbig posters will be douchebags also. It's just how the world is.
hahah, How true. No shortage of assclowns in the world. Funny, cause everyone thinks that.
I think this case is closed.
Thanx to everybody here and you, Croach.
No man, I'm not done, roids suck and I rule!! hahaha
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yet you couldn't?
I gained close to 40lbs in 2 months, mainly water I'm sure, but all the same. Tell me 30-40lbs in 2 months isn't laughable. That was on a mediocre diet. It's a joke man.
My diet didn't support the muscle I had at the time, plus I didn't cycle right. No, I'm not mad I lost that 2 cent sorry ass gear weight...aha
Hope that helps.
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Croatch why do you come on a bodybuilding site then? You know that steroids are a part of it. So why are you here? Just to bash people who use gear? Im trying to understand your way of thinking but I cant. I really think you should see a doctor. You seem angry all the time. In all your pics and videos you seem like you are mad at the world. We know that you looked like shit on gear but dont trash people who dont have shitty genetics like you.
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Croatch why do you come on a bodybuilding site then? You know that steroids are a part of it.
just a wild guess . . . but maybe he doesn't think steroids should be a part of it?
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just a wild guess . . . but maybe he doesn't think steroids should be a part of it?
The guy still uses gear but tries to deny it. I dont understand why he bash people who uses gear but he does the same.
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just a wild guess . . . but maybe he doesn't think steroids should be a part of it?
hahah, Good call.
The guy still uses gear but tries to deny it. I dont understand why he bash people who uses gear but he does the same.
Yeah, still use gear, good call smart guy. If I'm on gear, I want a rebate. Just like most the people I see on should.
Sorry, just the one cycle many years back.
Croatch why do you come on a bodybuilding site then? You know that steroids are a part of it. So why are you here? Just to bash people who use gear? Im trying to understand your way of thinking but I cant. I really think you should see a doctor. You seem angry all the time. In all your pics and videos you seem like you are mad at the world. We know that you looked like shit on gear but dont trash people who dont have shitty genetics like you.
In all my videos I seem mad at the world. Take a closer look, I don't seem too mad....haha Making dumbass infomercials...yeah, real hatred. Ron Moaster is one angry fuck! ahah
I agree, my genetics are shit, where does that leave you now?
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croatch has juiced and used synthol :P
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croatch has juiced and used synthol Tongue
Ahh, my biggest fan. I was wondering what too you so long to post. :-*
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I gained close to 40lbs in 2 months, mainly water I'm sure, but all the same. Tell me 30-40lbs in 2 months isn't laughable. That was on a mediocre diet. It's a joke man.
My diet didn't support the muscle I had at the time, plus I didn't cycle right. No, I'm not mad I lost that 2 cent sorry ass gear weight...aha
Hope that helps.
Was it lean gain?
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I don't exactly hate all people who use gear, though I do make generalizations.
Jealous of someone who looks worse than me and taking shots every day to get there, that's kind of tough.
Envy...how could you envy someone who relies soley on drugs to build any kind of decent...or mediocre physique?It's not a moral thing, it's just so simple to gain muscle on gear there really is no challenge. I find it laughable when guys walk around like they achieved something great by taking some dbol and putting on 20lbs of bloat...ahah It's honestly pathetic and everything I'm not about. Bodybuilding should be about pushing yourself and getting past plateaus, etc. What it's become today is a complete joke.
Drugs are so abundant in gyms today, it makes me shake my head every time I enter Gold's. Everyone and their "hardcore" training, bloated to shit, "I compete" attitude. These guys can't attain squat without drug use, or at least 8 of 10. To me, these people are weak individuals who need something to validate some kind of accomplishment, so drugs are an easy way to get some kind of attention with little work, yet many still look like horseshit. Have some integrity and see what you really have, stop the drugs and get real man.
Point is, anyone can get semi jacked on gear, so what. Nobody cares, just like nobody gives a shit I'm natural/clean. I know what I've accomplished without the use of drugs and even it if were 5lbs. of muscle, I know it's all me. Something most juicers will never know.
So, it's not a moral thing, but more like, where is the accomplishment in gaining some shitty size with mass quantities of drugs? Like I've said, Gaining muscle on steroids is like getting fat from eating pizza, neither are very hard.
Croatch on...
Regardless, you do realize that there is a natural board, don't you? If you take pride in being natural then thats your business. Just like if I choose to jab my ass its my business. I sure as heel don't need some jackass making moral judgements about me. If I were to judge you, I would say that you are nothing but a skinny boned jackass that takes pride in making gains as slowly as humanly possible. Did you refuse your polio shot as a child too because of your "I never take drugs and never will" attitude? Your clean...good for you. I sauce...good for me. But I don't disrespect you for it and I ask for the same in return. As for your little analogy, don't think that by taking AAS that you will automatically gain muscle very easily. You still need to train very hard, eat properly, take suppliments, rest, etc. You have lots to learn in the bbdg world my friend. Stick to the natural board.
PB
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But I don't disrespect you for it and I ask for the same in return. As for your little analogy, don't think that by taking AAS that you will automatically gain muscle very easily. You still need to train very hard, eat properly, take suppliments, rest, etc. You have lots to learn in the bbdg world my friend. Stick to the natural board.
Here's one, try doing it without and see how far you can get. Just a simple challenge from a skinny clown. I'd be, most who juice can't do squat without it. That's the point. Many people train hard, but the fact is, I could train half as hard and my diet could be mediocre and I'd make crazy gains with the right gear. It's a crutch, plain and simple. This is why I don't respect it. If people really wanted to see what "they're" capable of, they would take nothing. At least then if you're bigger/more cut than someone, you would know it's you and not your steroid blend of the week. I'll admit, training without drugs isn't for everyone. Good luck.
but you said that "any douchebag could gain muscle on these" yet you failed when you tried.
So what is it that is lower than a douchebag?
If I gained a total of 35lbs, I would guess there was probably a 15lbs lean gain easily. Believe me, with my diet, etc today, I'd put on an easy 20lbs of muscle in one year, no problem. I don't cause I choose not to. I wouldn't feel any satisfaction in knowing it was a magic pill that got me there, yes magic.
Was it lean gain?
Actual muscle gains.
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I'm proud to be a juicer, and on top of that, I take only Test, now tell me it is easy for me to get to where I want to be? Given it is 50x easier but I still go threw the motions to achieve my body just like you.
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I'm proud to be a juicer, and on top of that, I take only Test, now tell me it is easy for me to get to where I want to be? Given it is 50x easier but I still go threw the motions to achieve my body just like you.
That's the point, you go through the motions, I put heart into my training/diet, etc. For the last 5 years or so, I didn't just...go through the motions, I pretty much made training my lifestyle with pretty much zero deviations. Few people have the dedication needed to attain anything worthwhile without drugs and that's ok, it's honestly not for everyone. Good luck with your test.
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That's the point, you go through the motions, I put heart into my training/diet, etc. For the last 5 years or so, I didn't just...go through the motions, I pretty much made training my lifestyle with pretty much zero deviations. Few people have the dedication needed to attain anything worthwhile without drugs and that's ok, it's honestly not for everyone. Good luck with your test.
uh, just becuase someone is using steroids does not mean they dont do everything to the T. There are many people who are far more dedicated than you, natural or not.
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uh, just becuase someone is using steroids does not mean they dont do everything to the T. There are many people who are far more dedicated than you, natural or not.
Yes, one is Ronnie Coleman, the other is Jay Cutler. But not many more..haha Basically, no deviations on training or diet for a long ass time. Years without a cheat meal, etc. Sorry, you can't top my dedication. There are some who do or are as dedicated, but it's impossible to really surpass what is perfect.
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Dedication?
You ever heard the old saying that the ones who are the loudest are the ones who are the worst violators?
The more you spout, the less respect anyone has for you - regardless of subject matter.
Sorry, truth hurts.
Are you saying you're not going to respect me in the morning? I'm such a slut, sorry.
"The ones who are loudest are the ones who are the worst violators."
Did you make that up. In 31 years, I've never heard that. If a board of people I don't know have less respect for me, I think I'll be able to go on in my life. Thanks though.
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I made up that specific phrase, but not the concept.
It's called confidence. If you have it, you don't have to say anything. You show it by what you do and what you are.
This is a lesson you need to learn in your 32nd year.
If you knew me, I'm the last one to talk about lifting or other things I do. This just happens to be a bb website and drugs are just something I think are garbage. I only mention my gains to prove a point in posts and to belittle 2 cent steroid gains. For example, someone just gained 15lbs from some dbol, I say awesome, I gained 50+ without drugs, but awesome on that dbol man...ahah
You see how that works, it's kind of a one up, shut up, type comment. Again, what I do and most other do isn't even the same thing really. I agree though, some clown boasting about what he can lift, etc is foolish. Nothing screams insecurity more than saying, "Look what I can do, someone look at me."
Sure you don't care about my opinion, big deal, but what about everyone elses?
And if you don't care about their opinion, why should they care about yours?
Good point. I'm sure they don't care about mine, which has been made clear in many posts...haha
Yeah, this is a message board. I post for amusement and laughs. If people like what I say, great, if not, even better. I just try to let people know what is and isn't a great feat. Far too many people confuse crazy drug use with a big accomplishment. I'm here to say, no, there really is nothing you should be proud of because it's just too damn easy.
Hope that cleared up a few points.
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You did it again.
i think i did it again
i made you believe
were more then just friends
oh baby baby
it might seem like a crush
but it doesnt mean
that im serious
cause to lose all my senses
that is just so typically me
oh baby baby
Oops, I did it again.