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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MindSpin on April 20, 2007, 12:26:25 PM
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From Mr. Olympia to doing demos/serving product at a booth :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143005.0;attach=160067;image)
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Yes, a business man trying to sell his product..........how awful. ???
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he looks like hes really into it
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He looks like he's 60! IFBB-level bodybuilding seriously ages these guys.
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From Mr. Olumpia to doing demos/serving product at a booth :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143005.0;attach=160067;image)
Did you forget to mention he owns the company.
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Did you forget to mention he owns the company.
No shit, how is there any shame in being a business owner at a huge expo promoting your product.
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This is weird.. the last pics I saw of Dorian from a few months ago, he was all jacked and big.. now in these he's tiny and looks like he stopped training.. wtf ?!!?
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Wow - a guy promoting his own brand at an expo (when the brand was called Dorian Yates Approved). Nice - besides Dorian, we have Lee Labrada, Rich Gaspari, Gerard Dente, and countless others actually working at a booth. It is pretty cool to see them doing that. You know, in order to learn your business, you have to be able to do every job out there, from pouring drinks to talking about your products to even carrying a box.
It is the ones that don't like to help and just stand there that makes me wonder.
To see someone working, even if it is a former Mr. Olympia, is nice.
Get with the program, Mindspin, and stop eating these protein bars and ice cream!
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No shit, how is there any shame in being a business owner at a huge expo promoting your product.
You guys have no sense of humor ::) I actually just polished off a Pro MR with a scoop of ProPeptide...love the stuff.
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My bad then, i thought you were being serious!!!
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Wow - a guy promoting his own brand at an expo (when the brand was called Dorian Yates Approved). Nice - besides Dorian, we have Lee Labrada, Rich Gaspari, Gerard Dente, and countless others actually working at a booth. It is pretty cool to see them doing that. You know, in order to learn your business, you have to be able to do every job out there, from pouring drinks to talking about your products to even carrying a box.
It is the ones that don't like to help and just stand there that makes me wonder.
To see someone working, even if it is a former Mr. Olympia, is nice.
Get with the program, Mindspin, and stop eating these protein bars and ice cream!
Wonderfully said. :)
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He looks like he's 60! IFBB-level bodybuilding seriously ages these guys.
I thought these guys were supposed to look younger as they ages? :'( damn, Dorian is not even 50 yet
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Wow - a guy promoting his own brand at an expo (when the brand was called Dorian Yates Approved). Nice - besides Dorian, we have Lee Labrada, Rich Gaspari, Gerard Dente, and countless others actually working at a booth. It is pretty cool to see them doing that. You know, in order to learn your business, you have to be able to do every job out there, from pouring drinks to talking about your products to even carrying a box.
It is the ones that don't like to help and just stand there that makes me wonder.
To see someone working, even if it is a former Mr. Olympia, is nice.
Get with the program, Mindspin, and stop eating these protein bars and ice cream!
I don't think I ever saw Bill Phillips, Scott Connelly or David Jenkins walking around their booths with a tray full of samples ;)
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it's a good thing Kevin quit while he was still a-head ;D
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From Mr. Olumpia to doing demos/serving product at a booth :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143005.0;attach=160067;image)
Admit you talked out of your ass this time around, Yemeni. Dorian owns the company. What better marketing stunt to have Mr. O himself , which happens to own the company, advertising personally his product in the biggest fair/expo in the sport?
Besides, you are all too familiar with standing all day long in a supplement expo booth, aren't you? The only difference is that you had to wait 'till the end of the day to get paid by Connelly for a day's job. Dorian pockets 100% of the purchases at the booth, besides putting his product in the market and spreading the word about it.
And he is Mr. Olympia ! ;)
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When an MD or Owner has not walked the Shop floor as it were you get problems, props to him for getting involved at least he does not think he is to good for this type of thing as some people obviously think they are!
ta ta
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I don't think I ever saw Bill Phillips, Scott Connelly or David Jenkins walking around their booths with a tray full of samples ;)
You never saw any of them doing that because it wouldn't mean shit. These weren't bodybuilders, so the average fan could give a rat's ass who are these big shots, and that they are/were big playas in the supp industry. Fans want to see their favorite athletes at the expos, better yet if they own the companies they are doing advertising at hand for the products.
Who could give a shit of difference if he/she was walking around the expo and saw a tall, skinny, big headed moustached guy standing around the booth trying to convince the average joe that his protein is better than the next booth's because it contains metamyosin...... :-\
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Admit you talked out of your ass this time around, Yemeni. Dorian owns the company. What better marketing stunt to have Mr. O himself , which happens to own the company, advertising personally his product in the biggest fair/expo in the sport?
Besides, you are all too familiar with standing all day long in a supplement expo booth, aren't you? The only difference is that you had to wait 'till the end of the day to get paid by Connelly for a day's job. Dorian pockets 100% of the purchases at the booth, besides putting his product in the market and spreading the word about it.
And he is Mr. Olympia ! ;)
Ha ha! I love all these "tough guys" who "know" me. Again...no sense of humor ::)
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You never saw any of them doing that because it wouldn't mean shit. These weren't bodybuilders, so the average fan could give a rat's ass who are these big shots, and that they are/were big playas in the supp industry. Fans want to see their favorite athletes at the expos, better yet if they own the companies they are doing advertising at hand for the products.
Who could give a shit of difference if he/she was walking around the expo and saw a tall, skinny, big headed moustached guy standing around the booth trying to convince the average joe that his protein is better than the next booth's because it contains metamyosin...... :-\
How wrong you are. Even though Scott may have not been walking around with a tray, he was there all day answering questions to a large crowd. Can't say the same for Jenkins or Phillps though...
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Ha ha! I love all these "tough guys" who "know" me. Again...no sense of humor ::)
Not being a tough guy here, far from that! I leave that role for the other geeks in here, since there are a lot of them lurking in here (sandycoosworth comes to mind ;) ).
Just stating the facts, man. Just being real. You seem to be a cool guy and I like your posts, but this time around you dropped the ball. Simple as that.
No hard feelings, I hope. 8)
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I love Dorian's products....when I went to the Olympia expo, his crew was serving something like ice cream..I think it was Dessert Protein or something...best tasting stuff I have ever ate as far as protein powders...better than muscle milk
Wish I could afford supplements at the moment cause I would definately buy Dorian's brand...its high quality stuff!
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I love Dorian's products....when I went to the Olympia expo, his crew was serving something like ice cream..I think it was Dessert Protein or something...best tasting stuff I have ever ate as far as protein powders...better than muscle milk
Wish I could afford supplements at the moment cause I would definately buy Dorian's brand...its high quality stuff!
I agree. I love the consistency & flavor of the ProPeptide.
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From Mr. Olympia to doing demos/serving product at a booth :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143005.0;attach=160067;image)
A 6 time mr "O", millionaire, a true freak mass monster in his day....yup he fell real far ::)
PB
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How wrong you are. Even though Scott may have not been walking around with a tray, he was there all day answering questions to a large crowd. Can't say the same for Jenkins or Phillps though...
To put it mildly, fuck Connelly!
Are you trying to say that a guy like Connelly drives more credibility to his products than an athlete like Dorian Yates does?
Again, to that average fan who have no interest on spending his time reading the mags or the boards to get in touch with who's who in this bizz or the gossip and papparazzi stuff in bb these days, just a regular guy who likes to lift and attend his fave bb shows/events, if he sees a guy like Connelly and then Dorian , both advertising their products, who do you think this fan will be more attracted to? Dorian not only preach, but he practices. He embodies the effects his product may help to produce. Hard to say the same looking at Connelly. Catch my drift?
And once again, didn't you say yourself you don't remember seeing Connelly around the expos, all day? How come now he "get to answer questions all day"?
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Pro Peptide is awesome...I love that stuff, Mindspin!!
When I look at the pic of Dorian serving his products, it makes me respect him even more. This shows a sign of humility....the master being a servant...he came not to be served but to serve....
This pic made Dorian earn my respect
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This is not a first time Mindspin comes out as total jerk and then tries to cover it up. Ron, once again why is he a moderator?
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i can see that the haters are out in full force ::)
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Dorian recently had shoulder surgery,hence the looking smaller.He is no longer partner of "Dorian Yates Approved" ( Pro Peptide,Pro MR ect ) with Kerry Kayes.That brand is now called CNP Professional.This is Dorians newly released line
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He looks like he's 60! IFBB-level bodybuilding seriously ages these guys.
Yates never looked young even when he was young even in his 20's. He just didn't have that look.
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I love how Mindshit said he was joking yet the dipshit douche drinkers here rag on him.
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So there will be no more Dorian Yates Approved?
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I love how Mindshit said he was joking yet the dipshit douche drinkers here rag on him.
Yeah, he said he was joking....the moment the thread backfired on him.
Go back to drooling over some old Les Paul.
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Dorian recently had shoulder surgery,hence the looking smaller.He is no longer partner of "Dorian Yates Approved" ( Pro Peptide,Pro MR ect ) with Kerry Kayes.That brand is now called CNP Professional.This is Dorians newly released line
and Dorian's new line is called "Dorian Yates Ultimate Formula"
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He looks like he's 60! IFBB-level bodybuilding seriously ages these guys.
And tanning.
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To put it mildly, fuck Connelly!
Are you trying to say that a guy like Connelly drives more credibility to his products than an athlete like Dorian Yates does?
I'm going to hate myself for even responding to this, but YES! A qualified MD with 30+ years of experience in dealing with the human metabolism does much more for building consumer brand confidence than a genetic freak pumped full gear. I won't even get into the rationale for this from a marketing standpoint. I'll just let the numbers do the talking. MET-Rx, while owned by Connelly was a $100+ million dollar company. The Dorian Yates approved company has never exceeded $10 million in annual sales.
In fact, NONE of the supplement companies started by former pros (Labrada, Gaspari, Dillet, etc.) has ever surpassed the revenues attained by MET-Rx. Interestingly, after Connelly sold the brand it has completely tanked.
FYI, we did extensive consumer research at many of the companies I worked with (not just MET-Rx) on the value of using pro body building males/females as product endorsers. The results were always consistent. Female body builders caused a major negative reaction across all consumer segments. Male bodybuilders were well perceived by young male teenagers and negatively perceived by most men/women in the 18-49 age range.
Hope that helps.
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He looks like he's 60! IFBB-level bodybuilding seriously ages these guys.
he always looked much older than his age
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I'm going to hate myself for even responding to this, but YES! A qualified MD with 30+ years of experience in dealing with the human metabolism does much more for building consumer brand confidence than a genetic freak pumped full gear. I won't even get into the rationale for this from a marketing standpoint. I'll just let the numbers do the talking. MET-Rx, while owned by Connelly was a $100+ million dollar company. The Dorian Yates approved company has never exceeded $10 million in annual sales.
In fact, NONE of the supplement companies started by former pros (Labrada, Gaspari, Dillet, etc.) has ever surpassed the revenues attained by MET-Rx. Interestingly, after Connelly sold the brand it has completely tanked.
FYI, we did extensive consumer research at many of the companies I worked with (not just MET-Rx) on the value of using pro body building males/females as product endorsers. The results were always consistent. Female body builders caused a major negative reaction across all consumer segments. Male bodybuilders were well perceived by young male teenagers and negatively perceived by most men/women in the 18-49 age range.
Hope that helps.
interesting
please get into the "rationale" on this Yemeni
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To put it mildly, fuck Connelly!
Are you trying to say that a guy like Connelly drives more credibility to his products than an athlete like Dorian Yates does?
Again, to that average fan who have no interest on spending his time reading the mags or the boards to get in touch with who's who in this bizz or the gossip and papparazzi stuff in bb these days, just a regular guy who likes to lift and attend his fave bb shows/events, if he sees a guy like Connelly and then Dorian , both advertising their products, who do you think this fan will be more attracted to? Dorian not only preach, but he practices. He embodies the effects his product may help to produce. Hard to say the same looking at Connelly. Catch my drift?
And once again, didn't you say yourself you don't remember seeing Connelly around the expos, all day? How come now he "get to answer questions all day"?
calm down tiger, yemeni was just joking, go blow your boyfriend and relieve some stress.
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Wow - a guy promoting his own brand at an expo (when the brand was called Dorian Yates Approved). Nice - besides Dorian, we have Lee Labrada, Rich Gaspari, Gerard Dente, and countless others actually working at a booth. It is pretty cool to see them doing that. You know, in order to learn your business, you have to be able to do every job out there, from pouring drinks to talking about your products to even carrying a box.
It is the ones that don't like to help and just stand there that makes me wonder.
Well said, Ron. The guy is a millionaire and was the best in the World at something six times. That makes him better than almost anyone else out there. And, yeah, wow, it is so demeaning to to serve protein drinks made by the company that you own! ::)
Get with the program, Mindspin, and stop eating these protein bars and ice cream!
Oh man, Ron just bitch-slapped a mod and put him in his place. In several years posting here, this is the first time I'm seeing this. Great! ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Well said, Ron. The guy is a millionaire and was the best in the World at something six times. That makes him better than almost anyone else out there. And, yeah, wow, it is so demeaning to to serve protein drinks made by the company that you own! ::)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
How was the view of Yates on those kneepads? :-*
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....and what do you do champ?
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I don't think I ever saw Bill Phillips, Scott Connelly or David Jenkins walking around their booths with a tray full of samples ;)
Maybe you were not looking hard enough.
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Well said, Ron. The guy is a millionaire and was the best in the World at something six times. That makes him better than almost anyone else out there. And, yeah, wow, it is so demeaning to to serve protein drinks made by the company that you own! ::)
Oh man, Ron just bitch-slapped a mod and put him in his place. In several years posting here, this is the first time I'm seeing this. Great! ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
calm down 275 lb monster
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I wouldn't mind it if some A-list pornstars would give out free samples at their tables.
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How was the view of Yates on those kneepads? :-*
How is the view out of the window of that filfthy apartment of yours where you live and workout with your Bowflex? ;D ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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How is the view out of the window of that filfthy apartment of yours where you live and workout with your Bowflex? ;D ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
seriously.
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SADLY...TIME STANDS STILL FOR NOTHING... :(
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calm down 275 lb monster
LOL
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I don't think I ever saw Bill Phillips, Scott Connelly or David Jenkins walking around their booths with a tray full of samples ;)
The reason being is that they were nobodys who owned the company. Dorian is known by everyone in the industry. Are you sick or something. This thread should be canned cause it makes you look dumb. Why did you put this up.
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I agree. I love the consistency & flavor of the ProPeptide.
he has nothing to do with dorian yates approved/ cnp anymore.
i think the new pics are from fibo and it is yates own company. see the new catch phrase, "my company, my rep, your body". yates is full owner now of his own.
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From Mr. Olympia to doing demos/serving product at a booth :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143005.0;attach=160067;image)
and just think, if you were to be serving product at a both it would be a highlite of your life, hahaha.
Ragging a mr o with his own supplement line.....what have you ever done except your 9-5 and 275 pound bench press?
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I'm anxious to see Dorian's new line of supplements. I just got 3 boxes of the DY approved pro-MRP for 50% off at Vitamin Shoppe today because they are clearancing it simply because of the old label (the exp date is 8/2007). I predict that their sales will plummet once Dorian's Mug is removed from the label.
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Haha...Mindspin acts like a prick then gets spanked by Ron. "Oh...I was just kidding guys..."
What a tool.
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Haha...Mindspin acts like a prick then gets spanked by Ron. "Oh...I was just kidding guys..."
What a tool.
I was thinking it, but you said it. ;D
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I'm going to hate myself for even responding to this, but YES! A qualified MD with 30+ years of experience in dealing with the human metabolism does much more for building consumer brand confidence than a genetic freak pumped full gear. I won't even get into the rationale for this from a marketing standpoint. I'll just let the numbers do the talking. MET-Rx, while owned by Connelly was a $100+ million dollar company. The Dorian Yates approved company has never exceeded $10 million in annual sales.
In fact, NONE of the supplement companies started by former pros (Labrada, Gaspari, Dillet, etc.) has ever surpassed the revenues attained by MET-Rx. Interestingly, after Connelly sold the brand it has completely tanked.
FYI, we did extensive consumer research at many of the companies I worked with (not just MET-Rx) on the value of using pro body building males/females as product endorsers. The results were always consistent. Female body builders caused a major negative reaction across all consumer segments. Male bodybuilders were well perceived by young male teenagers and negatively perceived by most men/women in the 18-49 age range.
Hope that helps.
You're a fucking colombian tool! Your hero, Conelly, was a fvcking anesthesyologist, nothing more. He was an enterpreneuer (sp) who seize the oportunitty to explore a market that was at its begginning stage at the time, and for that precise reason the MET-RX company had a much bigger income than Dorian Yates approved. They got a fresh market, not yet blown away by a lot of bad rep like today's supp industry (see ephedrin, pro hormones, etc.).
Scott was just a big headed, moustached skinny guy who lifted weights in his free time and a mercenary visionary who invested in a new born industry to the masses, so to speak. By the way, good job on his part to help ruin, pull the plug on a fantastic bodybuilder's carrer, Paul deMayo's. What a stand up guy Connelly was. Hey, Yemeni, time to change the worn out knee pads!
Maybe for a guy 'in the know' like you, the credibility of a guy like Scott is prefered than Dorian's. But guys like you are the minority in this bizz. How about the average joe fan, walking down the aisles of an expo, and seeing 6 times Mr.O holding a tray with free samples form products of his OWN company, and by his side, Mr. moustache/big head Connelly, fragile as a feather, speaking about 'metamyosin'....who do you think these people would be more prone too?
Come on, man, you know better than that.....
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Not all of them!
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/arnold/2007/party/party2815.jpg)
who's that ugly looking butt boy trying to grab levrone's ass?
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You're a fucking colombian tool! Your hero, Conelly, was a fvcking anesthesyologist, nothing more. He was an enterpreneuer (sp) who seize the oportunitty to explore a market that was at its begginning stage at the time, and for that precise reason the MET-RX company had a much bigger income than Dorian Yates approved. They got a fresh market, not yet blown away by a lot of bad rep like today's supp industry (see ephedrin, pro hormones, etc.).
Scott was just a big headed, moustached skinny guy who lifted weights in his free time and a mercenary visionary who invested in a new born industry to the masses, so to speak. By the way, good job on his part to help ruin, pull the plug on a fantastic bodybuilder's carrer, Paul deMayo's. What a stand up guy Connelly was. Hey, Yemeni, time to change the worn out knee pads!
Maybe for a guy 'in the know' like you, the credibility of a guy like Scott is prefered than Dorian's. But guys like you are the minority in this bizz. How about the average joe fan, walking down the aisles of an expo, and seeing 6 times Mr.O holding a tray with free samples form products of his OWN company, and by his side, Mr. moustache/big head Connelly, fragile as a feather, speaking about 'metamyosin'....who do you think these people would be more prone too?
Come on, man, you know better than that.....
Hmmm....you sound angry. Either you worked for me and I fired you at some point, or you tried to work for me and I didn't hire you :-\
Yes, Scott was an anesthesiologist. However, he has had a personal interest in human metabolism for his entire career, and has always been a huge fan of body building. Because of that he has spent a better part of his career and millions of his own $$$ in metabolism/protein research.
At an expo, the average neophyte will be more attracted to a fitness bunny or pro than an MD...you are correct. However, once there, most pros are more interested in selling their 8x10 pics than in explaining why a particular supplement works. In fact most pros haven't got a clue about nutrition, metabolism, etc. Every show I ever went to with MET-Rx, Connelly was standing right there, from beginning to end, answering questions.
Paul Demayo? WTF are you talking about? Scott paid him an ungodly amount of money, bought him a new car and took care of the guy. Unfortunately, he was whacked and self-destructed.
Do you know what Scott is up to nowadays? You’d be very surprised. Unlike many of the entrepreneurs who made millions from this industry, he is not off living some sort of extravagant lifestyle. He has created a charity foundation and put millions of his own money into it. In the near future, he’ll be doing an interview right here on GetBig, where you can learn about this and much more.
If I stepped on you on my way up, my apologies. I too have matured....somewhat ;D
Peace…
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One time i saw a pic of dorian serving protien puddings to the expo goers.....It was hilarious, all he needed was an apron. :D
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One time i saw a pic of dorian serving protien puddings to the expo goers.....It was hilarious, all he needed was an apron. :D
ha ha ha!!! Wazzup war?
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ha ha ha!!! Wazzup war?
Shit Bro, these guys still drinkin haterade by the gallon!! Buisness as usual at the circus! ;D
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Shit Bro, these guys still drinkin haterade by the gallon!! Buisness as usual at the circus! ;D
wouldn't be GetBig w/o it!
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Back in 1993 at the Arnold Classic, I asked Scott Connelly at the Met-Rx booth what he thought of the importance of glycemic index in bodybuilding. He asked me to explain why it would even be a concern, and once I told him the underlying theories that I'd just begun reading about at the time, he kinda snubbed it off as largely irrelevant, stating that a glass of kool-aid was basically to be viewed as no different than any other carbohydrate source in a gram-for-gram equivalency. It perplexed me as to how Connelly could be so seemingly disinterested in the notion at the time, but looking back on it, I'm not sure he was entirely in error there. Phillips surely went on to market the concept to it's maximum, though, didn't he? That post-workout carbohydrate window thing coupled with the importance of glycemic index in choosing what carbs to throw in there and at other times of the day appealed to everyone's reason so strikingly that it immediately stuck like glue. I don't even think it so important now, though. The idea totally discounts where all the complex carbs from the pre-workout meal are by the time you're done, and has probably been why so many bodybuilders have stayed fatter than they've had to all these years. "IF YOU DON'T EAT 75-100 GRAMS OF SIMPLE CARBS WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF YOUR WORKOUT YOU WILL LOSE MUSCLE! YOU'LL BE EVEN SMALLER THAN YOU WERE BEFORE YOU WENT TO THE GYM!" Bullshit.
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Back in 1993 at the Arnold Classic, I asked Scott Connelly at the Met-Rx booth what he thought of the importance of glycemic index in bodybuilding. He asked me to explain why it would even be a concern, and once I told him the underlying theories that I'd just begun reading about at the time, he kinda snubbed it off as largely irrelevant, stating that a glass of kool-aid was basically to be viewed as no different than any other carbohydrate source in a gram-for-gram equivalency. It perplexed me as to how Connelly could be so seemingly disinterested in the notion at the time, but looking back on it, I'm not sure he was entirely in error there. Phillips surely went on to market the concept to it's maximum, though, didn't he? That post-workout carbohydrate window thing coupled with the importance of glycemic index in choosing what carbs to throw in there and at other times of the day appealed to everyone's reason so strikingly that it immediately stuck like glue. I don't even think it so important now, though. The idea totally discounts where all the complex carbs from the pre-workout meal are by the time you're done, and has probably been why so many bodybuilders have stayed fatter than they've had to all these years. "IF YOU DON'T EAT 75-100 GRAMS OF SIMPLE CARBS WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF YOUR WORKOUT YOU WILL LOSE MUSCLE! YOU'LL BE EVEN SMALLER THAN YOU WERE BEFORE YOU WENT TO THE GYM!" Bullshit.
The glycemic index topic is a hot one for Scott. I've seen him get into some good heated debates with people over it, and royaly own them. funny stuff...
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K9Rx is doing good I think.
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K9Rx is doing good I think.
So so. They have found that unless someone's pet is not doing well, people are not willing to spend that kind of money on them. Most think that the premium pet food brands in the grocery stores are good enough. In truth, ther is some scary shiat in there...
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The glycemic index topic is a hot one for Scott. I've seen him get into some good heated debates with people over it, and royaly own them. funny stuff...
I sure didn't choose to "debate" it with him! ;D
I think I also asked him what kind of doctor he was and he said something about cardiology or some brand of cardiac care being his main background.
Ha ha ha. I've got some stories regarding run-ins with people at expos...
I saw Bill Phillips standing in the corner of the 94 Olympia's expo, and I asked him if Dan "Dukaine" was going to be there...that's how I pronounced it because I'd only read his name, I'd never heard it pronounced "Dushane" by anyone that knew who he was. Keep in mind I was just a 17-year-old kid at the time. So he's like, "WHO?" (like a complete dick) I said it again. He said, "You mean Dan DUCHAINE?" I was like, "well, yeah...whatever?" He's like, no, he's not here. DICK. ha ha But that's before he'd really made it, but like the idea you just alluded to about "stepping on people on your way up," Mindspin, he was probably still just working out the kinks back then, so I'm not mad at him. I doubt he'd act like that today...
That was also the same expo that I got Steve Brisbois cornered in his Hot Stuff booth and demanded that he "swear to God he was natural." Ha ha ha. I feel so bad for him now. He squirmed and got pissed, as I kept insisting on him doing so, you know, because at the time, he was not only playing the natural angle, but the Christian one as well! So he angrily snaps, "YOU DON'T DO THAT!" "Why not?" I asked. "YOU JUST DON'T!" And he walked off. And he was right...you just don't...or at least not when you understand more about the world...I don't wanna make somebody squirm when they're just trying to put food on their table...but that's also why you don't play the Christian/natural angle when you're marketing to kids (when you also happen to be full of shit)! ;D
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Hmmm....you sound angry. Either you worked for me and I fired you at some point, or you tried to work for me and I didn't hire you :-\
"The dudes you abuse on the way up, you might meet up, on your way back down."
Lowell George
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"The dudes you abuse on the way up, you might meet up, on your way back down."
Lowell George
Karma is a biatch. I learned that early.
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I sure didn't choose to "debate" it with him! ;D
I think I also asked him what kind of doctor he was and he said something about cardiology or some brand of cardiac care being his main background.
Ha ha ha. I've got some stories regarding run-ins with people at expos...
I saw Bill Phillips standing in the corner of the 94 Olympia's expo, and I asked him if Dan "Dukaine" was going to be there...that's how I pronounced it because I'd only read his name, I'd never heard it pronounced "Dushane" by anyone that knew who he was. Keep in mind I was just a 17-year-old kid at the time. So he's like, "WHO?" (like a complete dick) I said it again. He said, "You mean Dan DUCHAINE?" I was like, "well, yeah...whatever?" He's like, no, he's not here. DICK. ha ha But that's before he'd really made it, but like the idea you just alluded to about "stepping on people on your way up," Mindspin, he was probably still just working out the kinks back then, so I'm not mad at him. I doubt he'd act like that today...
That was also the same expo that I got Steve Brisbois cornered in his Hot Stuff booth and demanded that he "swear to God he was natural." Ha ha ha. I feel so bad for him now. He squirmed and got pissed, as I kept insisting on him doing so, you know, because at the time, he was not only playing the natural angle, but the Christian one as well! So he angrily snaps, "YOU DON'T DO THAT!" "Why not?" I asked. "YOU JUST DON'T!" And he walked off. And he was right...you just don't...or at least not when you understand more about the world...I don't wanna make somebody squirm when they're just trying to put food on their table...but that's also why you don't play the Christian/natural angle when you're marketing to kids (when you also happen to be full of shit)! ;D
Ha ha ha! funny shit. Like most successful company heads from that time, I think Phillips was bi-polar and on some serious meds. You never know what the mood was going to be.
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This is not a first time Mindspin comes out as total jerk and then tries to cover it up. Ron, once again why is he a moderator?
Because, deep down, he's a big fan of "female" pro bodybuilders.
Biiiig fan.
Ask him. ;D
-Hedge
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Because, deep down, he's a big fan of "female" pro bodybuilders.
Biiiig fan.
Ask him. ;D
-Hedge
he he! There was a man-face in my gym today. It was bench pressing 225 for 10-12 reps and smelled like a man's locker room. But, she was still very feminine of course...
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he he! There was a man-face in my gym today. It was bench pressing 225 for 10-12 reps and smelled like a man's locker room. But, she was still very feminine of course...
hahahahaha, "smelled like a man's locker room". ;D
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I met Mr. Gaspari at the "O" last year and he took out time to explain his product. I thought that was cool
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hes selling his own supplement whats wrong with serving drinks ?
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Dude he's making decent money now.
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I sure didn't choose to "debate" it with him! ;D
I think I also asked him what kind of doctor he was and he said something about cardiology or some brand of cardiac care being his main background.
Ha ha ha. I've got some stories regarding run-ins with people at expos...
I saw Bill Phillips standing in the corner of the 94 Olympia's expo, and I asked him if Dan "Dukaine" was going to be there...that's how I pronounced it because I'd only read his name, I'd never heard it pronounced "Dushane" by anyone that knew who he was. Keep in mind I was just a 17-year-old kid at the time. So he's like, "WHO?" (like a complete dick) I said it again. He said, "You mean Dan DUCHAINE?" I was like, "well, yeah...whatever?" He's like, no, he's not here. DICK. ha ha But that's before he'd really made it, but like the idea you just alluded to about "stepping on people on your way up," Mindspin, he was probably still just working out the kinks back then, so I'm not mad at him. I doubt he'd act like that today...
That was also the same expo that I got Steve Brisbois cornered in his Hot Stuff booth and demanded that he "swear to God he was natural." Ha ha ha. I feel so bad for him now. He squirmed and got pissed, as I kept insisting on him doing so, you know, because at the time, he was not only playing the natural angle, but the Christian one as well! So he angrily snaps, "YOU DON'T DO THAT!" "Why not?" I asked. "YOU JUST DON'T!" And he walked off. And he was right...you just don't...or at least not when you understand more about the world...I don't wanna make somebody squirm when they're just trying to put food on their table...but that's also why you don't play the Christian/natural angle when you're marketing to kids (when you also happen to be full of shit)! ;D
Hahaha, weren't you also the one that posted a story once about calling Ronnie Coleman back in the day when they used to post pros phone numbers in Flex? I remember something like that - Coleman answered and said he gotta do his accountin homework for school. I'm sure he made straight A's too...
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You're a fucking colombian tool! Your hero, Conelly, was a fvcking anesthesyologist, nothing more. He was an enterpreneuer (sp) who seize the oportunitty to explore a market that was at its begginning stage at the time, and for that precise reason the MET-RX company had a much bigger income than Dorian Yates approved. They got a fresh market, not yet blown away by a lot of bad rep like today's supp industry (see ephedrin, pro hormones, etc.).
Scott was just a big headed, moustached skinny guy who lifted weights in his free time and a mercenary visionary who invested in a new born industry to the masses, so to speak. By the way, good job on his part to help ruin, pull the plug on a fantastic bodybuilder's carrer, Paul deMayo's. What a stand up guy Connelly was. Hey, Yemeni, time to change the worn out knee pads!
Maybe for a guy 'in the know' like you, the credibility of a guy like Scott is prefered than Dorian's. But guys like you are the minority in this bizz. How about the average joe fan, walking down the aisles of an expo, and seeing 6 times Mr.O holding a tray with free samples form products of his OWN company, and by his side, Mr. moustache/big head Connelly, fragile as a feather, speaking about 'metamyosin'....who do you think these people would be more prone too?
Come on, man, you know better than that.....
This thread is getting way out of hand ... LOL ! Mindspin, I bet you wished you never would've brought up this topic. * sigh * ... GetBig ... * The Iron Disciple shakes his head and chuckles to himself ... *
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Hahaha, weren't you also the one that posted a story once about calling Ronnie Coleman back in the day when they used to post pros phone numbers in Flex? I remember something like that - Coleman answered and said he gotta do his accountin homework for school. I'm sure he made straight A's too...
LOL
Yeah I basically asked Coleman, "What do you do differently than your peers that enables you to be so competitive without all the drugs they're on?" He was like, "Uh, I just train hahdah!" I'm like, "Oh, for real? That's cool..." ::) Then he's all, "Hey uh, I've got some accountin' homework to get done man. I'm still in school for accounting." I was like, "OK man, thanks." ;D
I called Mike Mentzer one afternoon and he's like, "hey, I'd like to chat with you, but I'm having some friends over for tea just right now!" "Oh, OK man, that's cool, maybe I'll catch you later."
I had no idea they were publishing those numbers for show promoters to call them and stuff, and I'm sure the pros never really knew how to respond when kids called them wanting to talk about working out and stuff. Clearly very awkward. I just figured if they were gonna publish the numbers, that I'd call and try to figure out why the hell none of the flex articles were exactly "working" for me. ;)
I used to call Gold's Venice at 8 o'clock on the Sunday morning after major pro shows (Olympia/Arnold) to get placings, too. Some guy at the front desk would always be like, "ok, hold on..." Then you'd hear him asking anybody within earshot of him, "Hey what was the top 5?" Then like 3 guys would be contributing to the list 'til they got it right and he'd come back and give it to me but I'd already have gotten what they were saying. It was either that or wait 3-4 months to read about it in Flex. So then I'd go and put the list up at my gym, knowing now that I'm the only damn person in the whole club that gave 2 shits about it, much less knew who any of the guys were. ;D
They also used to advertise this one 1-900 number in the back of Flex that was supposed to have those results but it was slow as shit and it just took your money half the time.
God I was a freak. :-[
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Yeah I basically asked Coleman, "What do you do differently than your peers that enables you to be so competitive without all the drugs they're on?" He was like, "Uh, I just train hahdah!" I'm like, "Oh, for real? That's cool..." ::) Then he's all, "Hey uh, I've got some accountin' homework to get done man. I'm still in school for accounting." I was like, "OK man, thanks." ;D
I called Mike Mentzer one afternoon and he's like, "hey, I'd like to chat with you, but I'm having some friends over for tea just right now!" "Oh, OK man, that's cool, maybe I'll catch you later."
I had no idea they were publishing those numbers for show promoters to call them and stuff, and I'm sure the pros never really knew how to respond when kids called them wanting to talk about working out and stuff. Clearly very awkward. I just figured if they were gonna publish the numbers, that I'd call and try to figure out why the hell none of the flex articles were exactly "working" for me. ;)
I used to call Gold's Venice at 8 o'clock on the Sunday morning after major pro shows (Olympia/Arnold) to get placings, too. Some guy at the front desk would always be like, "ok, hold on..." Then you'd hear him asking anybody within earshot of him, "Hey what was the top 5?" Then like 3 guys would be contributing to the list 'til they got it right and he'd come back and give it to me but I'd already have gotten what they were saying. It was either that or wait 3-4 months to read about it in Flex. So then I'd go and put the list up at my gym, knowing now that I'm the only damn person in the whole club that gave 2 shits about it, much less knew who any of the guys were. ;D
They also used to advertise this one 1-900 number in the back of Flex that was supposed to have those results but it was slow as shit and it just took your money half the time.
God I was a freak. :-[
Dude, that is just pure fooking comedy. I remember seeing the pros numbers and calling one (I forget who). I wasn't expecting the number to be real, so when he answered I panicked and hung up...ha ha.
This thread is getting way out of hand ... LOL ! Mindspin, I bet you wished you never would've brought up this topic. * sigh * ... GetBig ... * The Iron Disciple shakes his head and chuckles to himself ... *
It's all good. I found out who "Chris" is...funny guy ;D
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Yeah I basically asked Coleman, "What do you do differently than your peers that enables you to be so competitive without all the drugs they're on?" He was like, "Uh, I just train hahdah!" I'm like, "Oh, for real? That's cool..." ::) Then he's all, "Hey uh, I've got some accountin' homework to get done man. I'm still in school for accounting." I was like, "OK man, thanks." ;D
I called Mike Mentzer one afternoon and he's like, "hey, I'd like to chat with you, but I'm having some friends over for tea just right now!" "Oh, OK man, that's cool, maybe I'll catch you later."
I had no idea they were publishing those numbers for show promoters to call them and stuff, and I'm sure the pros never really knew how to respond when kids called them wanting to talk about working out and stuff. Clearly very awkward. I just figured if they were gonna publish the numbers, that I'd call and try to figure out why the hell none of the flex articles were exactly "working" for me. ;)
I used to call Gold's Venice at 8 o'clock on the Sunday morning after major pro shows (Olympia/Arnold) to get placings, too. Some guy at the front desk would always be like, "ok, hold on..." Then you'd hear him asking anybody within earshot of him, "Hey what was the top 5?" Then like 3 guys would be contributing to the list 'til they got it right and he'd come back and give it to me but I'd already have gotten what they were saying. It was either that or wait 3-4 months to read about it in Flex. So then I'd go and put the list up at my gym, knowing now that I'm the only damn person in the whole club that gave 2 shits about it, much less knew who any of the guys were. ;D
They also used to advertise this one 1-900 number in the back of Flex that was supposed to have those results but it was slow as shit and it just took your money half the time.
God I was a freak. :-[
hahaha, tea. That's priceless though, I remember those phone numbers but I never bothered to call because I figured some big time bodybuilder probably had an army of personal assistants and PR reps so the number was probably just to some office somewhere... ;D hah! If only I had known...
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I'm going to hate myself for even responding to this, but YES! A qualified MD with 30+ years of experience in dealing with the human metabolism does much more for building consumer brand confidence than a genetic freak pumped full gear. I won't even get into the rationale for this from a marketing standpoint. I'll just let the numbers do the talking. MET-Rx, while owned by Connelly was a $100+ million dollar company. The Dorian Yates approved company has never exceeded $10 million in annual sales.
In fact, NONE of the supplement companies started by former pros (Labrada, Gaspari, Dillet, etc.) has ever surpassed the revenues attained by MET-Rx. Interestingly, after Connelly sold the brand it has completely tanked.
FYI, we did extensive consumer research at many of the companies I worked with (not just MET-Rx) on the value of using pro body building males/females as product endorsers. The results were always consistent. Female body builders caused a major negative reaction across all consumer segments. Male bodybuilders were well perceived by young male teenagers and negatively perceived by most men/women in the 18-49 age range.
Hope that helps.
Well, Mindspin, I once took a look at a protein bar and protein drink from MetRx, and what I saw mentioned in the labels appalled me: high fructose corn syrup, partially fractioned palm kernel oil, dextrose, maltodextrine, disodium phosphate, etc. These are all red flags in my book! :o How the fuck can one build muscles while being unhealthy? Well, you can build muscles while being unhealthy - look at steroid users -, but eventually you'll lose it due to disease or weakness.
Fructose is a carbohydrate that is notorious for increasing a process called glycation, which is implicated in artherosclerosis, cancer and the development of wrinkles. I can understand junk drinks like Coca-Cola and Pepsi including high-fructose corn in it's formula, but a company that sells a supposedly healthy nutritional product?
As for the fractioned palm kernel oil, well, the word "fractioned" is synonymous with "hydrogeneted". In this case, it means "partially hydrogenated". Hydrogeneted oils decrease the amount of HDL cholesterol, and are several times more likely than saturated fats to accumulate in the arteries, thus potentially leading to a myocardial infarction.
Disodium phosphate is essentially Sodium attached to a phopshate. A diet rich in Sodium is implicated in renal failure, Potassium deficiency, high systolic blood pressure and edema. It is one of the causal factors associated witha series of debilitating diseases associated with premature ageing and death.
So, yes, Mindspin, I do think that the MetRx products suck; they were already bad for 1993, but are absolutely appalling for 2007. I would much, much rather have a Labrada product, which is devoid of unnecessary trash and contains a higher proportion of whey protein isolates in it's formula - instead of the cheaper whey concentrate -, than a product created by a medical doctor who doesen't know shit about nutrition. Regards. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Well, Mindspin, I once took a look at a protein bar and protein drink from MetRx, and what I saw mentioned in the labels appalled me: high fructose corn syrup, partially fractioned palm kernel oil, dextrose, maltodextrine, disodium phosphate, etc. These are all red flags in my book! :o How the fuck can one build muscles while being unhealthy? Well, you can build muscles while being unhealthy - look at steroid users -, but eventually you'll lose it due to disease or weakness.
Fructose is a carbohydrate that is notorious for increasing a process called glycation, which is implicated in artherosclerosis, cancer and the development of wrinkles. I can understand junk drinks like Coca-Cola and Pepsi including high-fructose corn in it's formula, but a company that sells a supposedly healthy nutritional product?
As for the fractioned palm kernel oil, well, the word "fractioned" is synonymous with "hydrogeneted". In this case, it means "partially hydrogenated". Hydrogeneted oils decrease the amount of HDL cholesterol, and are several times more likely than saturated fats to accumulate in the arteries, thus potentially leading to a myocardial infarction.
Disodium phosphate is essentially Sodium attached to a phopshate. A diet rich in Sodium is implicated in renal failure, Potassium deficiency, high systolic blood pressure and edema. It is one of the causal factors associated witha series of debilitating diseases associated with premature ageing and death.
So, yes, Mindspin, I do think that the MetRx products suck; they were already bad for 1993, but are absolutely appalling for 2007. I would much, much rather have a Labrada product, which is devoid of unnecessary trash and contains a higher proportion of whey protein isolates in it's formula - instead of the cheaper whey concentrate -, than a product created by a medical doctor who doesen't know shit about nutrition. Regards. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I could not agree with you more! With regard to the HFCS, Connelly has been yelling about this for over 15 years. The fact that they have added it to the MET-Rx formulas is a travesty.
A lot has changed in the formulations since Scott sold the company and it's not surprising. Big companies are accustomed to making money by "cost optimizing" products and enhancing their margins.
I will disagree with you however, on the quality of the product in its original formula. The protein profile is unmatched even today. And it has nothing to do with whey isolate, cheap caseins, or any of the other nonsense that "experts" are always spouting off about. Bottom line, there was a very specific amino acid array in the formula that did some pretty amazing stuff. There were also growth factors that had a significant impact on protein synthesis. We had not identified them then, but have now. And, we've managed to isolate and concentrate them!
It’s too bad that the likelihood of this evolving protein formulation will probably never be commercially available. As I previously mentioned, Scott has founded a nonprofit organization and wants nothing to do with our fooked up industry. Luckily, I’ve got access to the stuff :D
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Gaspari's SIZEON is awesome. I kept all 10 pounds I gained off it and don't feel any fatter or more bloated. Even if I am, no one would notice. Granted there was muscle memory there, but SIZEON is great - the pumps were amazing too.
Gaspari products are alright.
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When I was around 15 or so I called Vince Giranda at his gym in California to ask him about his theories on raw fertiel eggs and stuff.
Surprisingly, he was very pleasant, but when I continued to ask him more questions he flipped out and said he was training someone, hahha...it was great.
Also, at 16 after Pumping Iron 2 the women came out I worked for Steve Michalik at Mr America's in NY.
Many women showed up at the gym after that movie and throughout the years after just to talk to Steve and hopefully get him to train them, so we're not that unusual, lol.
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The guy is a millionaire
What makes you think that?
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What makes you think that?
The Olympia prize money, in the 1990s, was U.S130000.00 and he won it six times. Now I don't know if that's tax free, but let's assume it is. So:
6 x 130000 = 780000
Now, it is reasonable to assume that he made three times more than that per year from endorsement contracts and seminars. So:
780000 x 4 = 3120000
It is reasonable to assume, that during those six years, he spent a million bucks on drugs, food, plain tickets, etc. So:
3120000 - 1000000 = 2120000
If he invested the money, then the compound interest rates would have doubles his net worth over those six years. So his total icome after the end of his tenure as Mr.Olympia is:
U.S$4240000.00
Going by the classical definition, a millionaire is someone who posses at least U.S$1000000.00. So yes, Dorian qualiies as a millionaire. My numbers are only an estimate, but they are pretty reasonable. Hope this helps. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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From Mr. Olympia to doing demos/serving product at a booth :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143005.0;attach=160067;image)
lol.... you dont have a clus what you are talking about!
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Wow - a guy promoting his own brand at an expo (when the brand was called Dorian Yates Approved). Nice - besides Dorian, we have Lee Labrada, Rich Gaspari, Gerard Dente, and countless others actually working at a booth. It is pretty cool to see them doing that. You know, in order to learn your business, you have to be able to do every job out there, from pouring drinks to talking about your products to even carrying a box.
It is the ones that don't like to help and just stand there that makes me wonder.
To see someone working, even if it is a former Mr. Olympia, is nice.
Get with the program, Mindspin, and stop eating these protein bars and ice cream!
agreed!..............
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I spoke with Yates yesterday and he is more than happy with how his new supp line has taken off in Europe. This along with his Temple franchise is making him good $$. Supps tastes awesome BTW. Check out his new products at www.dorianyates.eu
www.kagedmuscle.com
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I had no idea they were publishing those numbers for show promoters to call them and stuff, and I'm sure the pros never really knew how to respond when kids called them wanting to talk about working out and stuff. Clearly very awkward. I just figured if they were gonna publish the numbers, that I'd call and try to figure out why the hell none of the flex articles were exactly "working" for me. ;)
This won't surprise anyone, but when I was dieting for my first show at age 18, I used those numbers to call Teen National and Men's National Champ and IFBB Pro Shane DiMora to pick his brain. I don't think I got a whole lot from him.
Then I called Vince Taylor's house in Havre de Grace, Maryland, and his MOTHER answered. I asked what Vince ate and she said, "Oh, he just loves pizza. He eats it everyday." And I said, "What does he drink? Muscle Builder? Weight Gainer 9000?" And she goes, "He drinks Coke. He eats pizza and coke every day." That's right about the time I quit competitive bodybuilding.
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From Mr. Olympia to doing demos/serving product at a booth :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=143005.0;attach=160067;image)
How in the hell did you become a mod making stupid post such as this.........man ron come on.....where is the leadership here? :-\
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This won't surprise anyone, but when I was dieting for my first show at age 18, I used those numbers to call Teen National and Men's National Champ and IFBB Pro Shane DiMora to pick his brain. I don't think I got a whole lot from him.
Then I called Vince Taylor's house in Havre de Grace, Maryland, and his MOTHER answered. I asked what Vince ate and she said, "Oh, he just loves pizza. He eats it everyday." And I said, "What does he drink? Muscle Builder? Weight Gainer 9000?" And she goes, "He drinks Coke. He eats pizza and coke every day." That's right about the time I quit competitive bodybuilding.
Now thats a pisser....I just had a can of tuna and 1 dry potato........for what??? To look like a fat bastard next to a pizza and coke guy!!! >:(
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it's a good thing Kevin quit while he was still a-head ;D
LMAO
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I spoke with Yates yesterday and he is more than happy with how his new supp line has taken off in Europe. This along with his Temple franchise is making him good $$. Supps tastes awesome BTW. Check out his new products at www.dorianyates.eu
www.kagedmuscle.com
His supps are great. How many franchises of Temple are there.
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Question: if Dorian is a millionaire why is he getting punched out at expos for money he owes people?
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This won't surprise anyone, but when I was dieting for my first show at age 18, I used those numbers to call Teen National and Men's National Champ and IFBB Pro Shane DiMora to pick his brain. I don't think I got a whole lot from him.
Then I called Vince Taylor's house in Havre de Grace, Maryland, and his MOTHER answered. I asked what Vince ate and she said, "Oh, he just loves pizza. He eats it everyday." And I said, "What does he drink? Muscle Builder? Weight Gainer 9000?" And she goes, "He drinks Coke. He eats pizza and coke every day." That's right about the time I quit competitive bodybuilding.
reminds me of when i read that the great sergio oliva ate pizza and drank coke after his workouts.
i don't recall him adding whey, vitargo, creatine and glutamine to that mix though. :o
might have gobbed a few dballs though. ;)
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I could not agree with you more! With regard to the HFCS, Connelly has been yelling about this for over 15 years. The fact that they have added it to the MET-Rx formulas is a travesty.
A lot has changed in the formulations since Scott sold the company and it's not surprising. Big companies are accustomed to making money by "cost optimizing" products and enhancing their margins.
I will disagree with you however, on the quality of the product in its original formula. The protein profile is unmatched even today. And it has nothing to do with whey isolate, cheap caseins, or any of the other nonsense that "experts" are always spouting off about. Bottom line, there was a very specific amino acid array in the formula that did some pretty amazing stuff. There were also growth factors that had a significant impact on protein synthesis. We had not identified them then, but have now. And, we've managed to isolate and concentrate them!
It’s too bad that the likelihood of this evolving protein formulation will probably never be commercially available. As I previously mentioned, Scott has founded a nonprofit organization and wants nothing to do with our fooked up industry. Luckily, I’ve got access to the stuff :D
Hook a ni**a up FFS!! 8)
-Hedge
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Yeah I basically asked Coleman, "What do you do differently than your peers that enables you to be so competitive without all the drugs they're on?" He was like, "Uh, I just train hahdah!" I'm like, "Oh, for real? That's cool..." ::) Then he's all, "Hey uh, I've got some accountin' homework to get done man. I'm still in school for accounting." I was like, "OK man, thanks." ;D
I called Mike Mentzer one afternoon and he's like, "hey, I'd like to chat with you, but I'm having some friends over for tea just right now!" "Oh, OK man, that's cool, maybe I'll catch you later."
I had no idea they were publishing those numbers for show promoters to call them and stuff, and I'm sure the pros never really knew how to respond when kids called them wanting to talk about working out and stuff. Clearly very awkward. I just figured if they were gonna publish the numbers, that I'd call and try to figure out why the hell none of the flex articles were exactly "working" for me. ;)
I used to call Gold's Venice at 8 o'clock on the Sunday morning after major pro shows (Olympia/Arnold) to get placings, too. Some guy at the front desk would always be like, "ok, hold on..." Then you'd hear him asking anybody within earshot of him, "Hey what was the top 5?" Then like 3 guys would be contributing to the list 'til they got it right and he'd come back and give it to me but I'd already have gotten what they were saying. It was either that or wait 3-4 months to read about it in Flex. So then I'd go and put the list up at my gym, knowing now that I'm the only damn person in the whole club that gave 2 shits about it, much less knew who any of the guys were. ;D
They also used to advertise this one 1-900 number in the back of Flex that was supposed to have those results but it was slow as shit and it just took your money half the time.
God I was a freak. :-[
haha great story
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Question: if Dorian is a millionaire why is he getting punched out at expos for money he owes people?
he's stingy
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Question: if Dorian is a millionaire why is he getting punched out at expos for money he owes people?
If Donald Trump would be at the same expo, he'd get punched out as well.
Difference is that Dorian feels he's too macho/tough having to have bodyguards and security around him all the time, Donald does not agree on that.
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If Donald Trump would be at the same expo, he'd get punched out as well.
Difference is that Dorian feels he's too macho/tough having to have bodyguards and security around him all the time, Donald does not agree on that.
Is Dorian poor?
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I am certain he can afford bodyguards if he felt the need for them when appearing in public/at expos etc.
Maybe he feels he can take care of himself? ;)
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i think Doz'd feel like a bit of a wanker if he had an entourage or body guards. it's definitely not his style.