To all concerned:
I just got off the phone with Robin Chang. He read and forwarded to me, an email from Silvio explaining the situation and making his stance clear for the record. Silvio is in Canada at present, shooting pics for Muscletech...
He states that Milos is NOT his manager, and has never had the authority to speak on his behalf. He will address this himself and in greater detail, after the Colorado Pro as it is agravating enough to have to prepare with all that is going on.
There will be no action taken in reguards to his breach of contract, as it has been noted that certain people have mislead him, and have put his contract in jeopardy despite knowing the consequences of those actions. Robin (as representing AMI) and I (as representing the athlete) have discussed this at length and have come to this resolution on Silvio's behalf.
He has been isssued a warning, and knows that as the contracted athlete, he will be responsible for living up to the terms of the contract in any and all future occurances.
Silvio wants it known that he is very happy with both of his endorsement contracts, and hopes to remain a Weider athlete for a long time to come.
To all concerned:
I just got off the phone with Robin Chang. He read and forwarded to me, an email from Silvio explaining the situation and making his stance clear for the record. Silvio is in Canada at present, shooting pics for Muscletech...
He states that Milos is NOT his manager, and has never had the authority to speak on his behalf. He will address this himself and in greater detail, after the Colorado Pro as it is agravating enough to have to prepare with all that is going on.
There will be no action taken in reguards to his breach of contract, as it has been noted that certain people have mislead him, and have put his contract in jeopardy despite knowing the consequences of those actions. Robin (as representing AMI) and I (as representing the athlete) have discussed this at length and have come to this resolution on Silvio's behalf.
He has been isssued a warning, and knows that as the contracted athlete, he will be responsible for living up to the terms of the contract in any and all future occurances.
Silvio wants it known that he is very happy with both of his endorsement contracts, and hopes to remain a Weider athlete for a long time to come.
So does this mean he isn't going to be working with Milos after all this drama?
This certainly will be interesting. I know a lot of the story already.
spill it Jim ;D
how bout suspending Branch for cashing a first place check that wasn't his?
To all concerned:
I just got off the phone with Robin Chang. He read and forwarded to me, an email from Silvio explaining the situation and making his stance clear for the record. Silvio is in Canada at present, shooting pics for Muscletech...
He states that Milos is NOT his manager, and has never had the authority to speak on his behalf. He will address this himself and in greater detail, after the Colorado Pro as it is agravating enough to have to prepare with all that is going on.
There will be no action taken in reguards to his breach of contract, as it has been noted that certain people have mislead him, and have put his contract in jeopardy despite knowing the consequences of those actions. Robin (as representing AMI) and I (as representing the athlete) have discussed this at length and have come to this resolution on Silvio's behalf.
He has been isssued a warning, and knows that as the contracted athlete, he will be responsible for living up to the terms of the contract in any and all future occurances.
Silvio wants it known that he is very happy with both of his endorsement contracts, and hopes to remain a Weider athlete for a long time to come.
I'm probably missing something about this whole issue, but why can't you post progress pics before a contest? I've seen it done before or was it just because it was so close to the contest?
Ah ok. That clears it up. Thanks man.
These guys are accepting the terms of said contracts for a salary basically.
With the internet getting more powerful and its ability to sway votes and confidence, they are locking down what is an approved site and what is not.
In the past ...not matter.......now its big.
To all concerned:
I just got off the phone with Robin Chang. He read and forwarded to me, an email from Silvio explaining the situation and making his stance clear for the record. Silvio is in Canada at present, shooting pics for Muscletech...
He states that Milos is NOT his manager, and has never had the authority to speak on his behalf. He will address this himself and in greater detail, after the Colorado Pro as it is agravating enough to have to prepare with all that is going on.
There will be no action taken in reguards to his breach of contract, as it has been noted that certain people have mislead him, and have put his contract in jeopardy despite knowing the consequences of those actions. Robin (as representing AMI) and I (as representing the athlete) have discussed this at length and have come to this resolution on Silvio's behalf.
He has been isssued a warning, and knows that as the contracted athlete, he will be responsible for living up to the terms of the contract in any and all future occurances.
Silvio wants it known that he is very happy with both of his endorsement contracts, and hopes to remain a Weider athlete for a long time to come.
Milos is going to get a lot of questions at the seminar. Get ready!
I am open to all questions and this is certainly news to me.
Now, to make one thing clear: I said I was acting as Silvio's manager ALL THIS TIME as we had that kind of verbal agreement (not signed contract - as I certainly don't need one...)
Yesterday in other thread when Bob talked about 20% "payment" I clarified that EVERYTHING I did for Silvio in the beginning was FREE - as I wanted to help him get on his feet...
However, as I made many things possible for him and he expressed that he wants to continue using me and he wants to start paying me for my services as he thinks I should get paid something - we discussed several options...
He was asking for advice and different options for payment - and percentage was just one of the ideas...
Now, as some would like to present me as a lier - good luck with that.
I simply DON'T LIE.
Robin knows very well that he was talking to me about Silvio's contract as I was representing him as his manager...and MUSCLETECH people know that as well - as I went back and forth with them for a while making sure to get him MUCH MORE MONEY than what they would offer him...
So, that's that.
I guess I will have to find out from Silvio ASAP what's his stand about this whole thing...but certainly as it looks to me - someone tried to intimidate him and therefore he had to say "proper answer" to the delight of Bob and Shawn...so he could save his contract...
There is no intimidation, no threatening of his contract...just a statement from Silvio himself. I take no delight in this, as my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract...
Dont shoot the messnger...whatever issues you have w/ Silvio are your own.
But, as it goes in life - there are two sides to every story...
#1) I claim that I was acting as his manager since he came here to US...until right now. I organized several PAYING photoshoots with FLEX and MD - and acted as his manager negotiating his fees.
I also acted as his manager in case of publication contract (AMI) as well as supplement contract (Muscletech)
#2) And for Bob's statement:" He states that Milos is NOT his manager, and has never had the authority to speak on his behalf." - read #1.
Gotta hand it to Bob and Shawn. They are crafty.
Brilliant plan to put Silvio in an impossible position to drive a wedge between him and Milos.
Oh come now. It's so freaken obvious what you guys are doing. You realize there are quite a few people on this board who are A LOT smarter than both you put together with Issac on top. It doesn't take a rocket scientest to put 2 and 2 together.
...btw, where's Shawn in all this? He still on the plane?
You're right, it doesn't take a rocket scientist...It takes the conspiracy therorists that take up residence on internet boards, that believe there is an underlying, seedy explanation behind the simplest of events...
Ever consider the OBVIOUS? SILVIO DOESN'T WANT ANYONE SPEAKING FOR HIM EXCEPT HIMSELF... Nahhhh, no fun in that.
Writing is on the wall:
--Shawn text's Silvio 15 min before going on stage
--You approach him after Shawn's failed TM attempts
--Silvio crashes right before stepping on stage
--Now Silvio thinks Milos is to blame
--To clear things up and keep his contract, Silvio MUST disavow Milos
--Shawn celebrates at his success at causing a rift between Silvio and Milos
Ever consider the OBVIOUS?
Writing is on the wall:
--Shawn text's Silvio 15 min before going on stage
--You approach him after Shawn's failed TM attempts
--Silvio crashes right before stepping on stage
--Now Silvio thinks Milos is to blame
--To clear things up and keep his contract, Silvio MUST disavow Milos
--Shawn celebrates at his success at causing a rift between Silvio and Milos
I only hope both Silvio and Milos can see this for what it is. That way, instead of causing a rift, it'll backfire in Shawn's face and make the relationship between Silvio and Milos that much stronger.
Course Silvio wants others to speak for him...in circumstances where he is not versed -- such as contract negotiations. He's be an idiot to turn down Milos' free help. That I know -- Silvio told me as much.
No conspiracy. Simple facts. I'll admit that you might just be a pawn in Shawn's scheme -- I don't know. Either way, Shawn (and I'd suggest you as well) owes Silvio a HUGE apology -- both you know pre-contest etiquette and know not to drop a bomb like that. This cannot be debated.
Silvo's just telling the IFBB monkeys what they want to hear - distance himself from Milos 'officially' The IFBB circus gets more amusing by the second, shawn ray being the number #1 clown followed by the puppet show (bob)
how bout suspending Branch for cashing a first place check that wasn't his?
how bout you stfu and focus on trying to make a living instead?
Trolling for the last 3yrs on a muscle board doesn't give you any "notoriety" IRL.
Hope you realize that?
how bout you stfu and focus on trying to make a living instead?
Trolling for the last 3yrs on a muscle board doesn't give you any "notoriety" IRL.
Hope you realize that?
This isn't an IFBB issue, Numnutz...it's a contract issue. One has nothing to do with the other.
Thanks for playing...
how bout you stfu and focus on trying to make a living instead?
Trolling for the last 3yrs on a muscle board doesn't give you any "notoriety" IRL.
Hope you realize that?
I'm not trying to get notoriety in real life. I believe branch's lat tear should have DQ'd him from the win. I had Dennis james first.
I must be pretty fucken bulletproof if all you can do is argue with me about my mistyping.Bulletproof is George Farrah not I.
You know whose smarter between the two of us.
If I'm wrong, correct me, don't just say "your wrong". Break it down like I did so everyone can understand it. Bullet list in chronological order. I'll ask him when he gets back from Canada too.You're wrong and stop pretending like you know. You latch on to Milos' latest competitor and act like you know what's up. You did it with Mustafa now you're doing with Silvio.
Pawn might be too strong...simply that you believe what Shawn said his intentions were -- and so you're sticking up for him -- and in that way, he's using you and your power.
You're wrong and stop pretending like you know. You latch on to Milos' latest competitor and act like you know what's up. You did it with Mustafa now you're doing with Silvio.
You're an idiot.
You're wrong and stop pretending like you know. You latch on to Milos' latest competitor and act like you know what's up. You did it with Mustafa now you're doing with Silvio.
You're an idiot.
Lift Studios accusing others of "latching" is the irony of the day.I'm there working for various web sites or magazines, BLACK CATTLE.
Every show I go you're at it for 4 hours straight (with a backpack)
You've even done it to me.
Pot calling the cattle black
" The great natural" ::)
I'm there working for various web sites or magazines, BLACK CATTLE.
"done it to you"? That being?
It's kettle not cattle. :-*
it means he's willing to say what is necessary to keep his contract.
You're wrong and stop pretending like you know. You latch on to Milos' latest competitor and act like you know what's up. You did it with Mustafa now you're doing with Silvio.
You're an idiot.
I don't have to wait for the seminar - I already started answering...but certainly - come and ask me anything...
I think Silvio will be here by than...
MILOS AS ONE WHO HAS BEEN SUSPENDED A FEW TIMES....YES THEY WANT YOU TO SAY AND WRITE LETTERS SAYING YOR SORRY AND HOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.....ALL BULLSHIT...THEY MAKE YOU PRETTY MUCH BEG AND CRAWL .......TO STAY WITH THEM
To all concerned:
I just got off the phone with Robin Chang. He read and forwarded to me, an email from Silvio explaining the situation and making his stance clear for the record. Silvio is in Canada at present, shooting pics for Muscletech...
He states that Milos is NOT his manager, and has never had the authority to speak on his behalf. He will address this himself and in greater detail, after the Colorado Pro as it is agravating enough to have to prepare with all that is going on.
There will be no action taken in reguards to his breach of contract, as it has been noted that certain people have mislead him, and have put his contract in jeopardy despite knowing the consequences of those actions. Robin (as representing AMI) and I (as representing the athlete) have discussed this at length and have come to this resolution on Silvio's behalf.
He has been isssued a warning, and knows that as the contracted athlete, he will be responsible for living up to the terms of the contract in any and all future occurances.
Silvio wants it known that he is very happy with both of his endorsement contracts, and hopes to remain a Weider athlete for a long time to come.
Well, I guess your letter writing days are far behind you now arent they?
GOD THAT SOUND SO MUCH LIKE ALL THE SHIT I HATE TO WRIT ENAD SAY TO BE BACK IN ......FUNY AS HELL...MY GOD WHO THEY THINK THEY ARE.....SILVO COME ON MAN....BE A MAN I KNOW ITS HARD WHEN THE MAJORITY OF YOUR INCOME IS FROM THEM BUT HELL...WHY BOW DOWN
He is being a man, and standing up for himself. This isn't an IFBB issue...unfortunately, you're so blinded by anomosity you cant differenciate the two...
BTW...the majority of his income is from Muscletech...not AMI.
Remember those? Contracts? Ahhhhhh the good 'ol days!
He is being a man, and standing up for himself. This isn't an IFBB issue...unfortunately, you're so blinded by anomosity you cant differenciate the two...
BTW...the majority of his income is from Muscletech...not AMI.
Remember those? Contracts? Ahhhhhh the good 'ol days!
YES AN I REMEBER GETTING A PHONE CALL FROM AMI STATING WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND WRITE WHEN I PULLED OUT OF OLYMPIA...........OH MUSCLETECH THE SAME COMPANY THAT THREATENS ITS ATHLETES I THEY GO PDI THEY WILL LOSE THIR CONTRACT..........NO MY EYES ARE OPEN...TO BAD THE REST OF THE ATHLETES ARE BLIND........OLD DAYS I AM STILL HERE GRANDPAR
hahahaha are you the transsexual shawn ray fuvked? When hes discussing issues with Milos... up you pop. Now hes involved again with playing mind games with Silvo prior to him stepping on stage and... up you pop.
did you do him too?
pre or post op?
Lee why do you care what happens with the ifbb? You are with the pdi. Stop crying for attentionNOT CRYING............I CAN HAVE AN OPINION JUST LIKE YOU.....YOU ARENT IFBB OR PDI UT YOU GO ON HERE AND TALK.........SO YOUR POINT IS WHAT
NOT CRYING............I CAN HAVE AN OPINION JUST LIKE YOU.....YOU ARENT IFBB OR PDI UT YOU GO ON HERE AND TALK.........SO YOUR POINT IS WHAT
Lee why do you care what happens with the ifbb? You are with the pdi. Stop crying for attention
I also find it interesting that Lee posts so much about the IFBB, and has been doing that for a while. I mean he left to go to the PDI, why not post about that organisation and promote it etc.
Yes it is correct. I nailed your mom really good. I splash multiple loads on her face. She rub that shit into her skin like it was suave coco butter.
Lee didn't start this topic, he has experience in this situation i.e trying to be told what to say (much like a puppet - see chic/ray) and is giving his input.
Lee knows whats what and speaks the truth - i find that 'intresting' ::)
i believe in you MILOS!
Milos it doesn't look to good for you mate :-\
"It was your job?" ::)
Can you show us a link where all of us can see exact description of your job?
Myself, as the IFBB professional with large group of the foreign IFBB pros would like to see what that description is...so maybe we can use you for something...
heh, Silvio is a really cool guy. If anyone did something like this to Hide, Mustafa, Milos, 240 or Bust, Tanya, or Hans, I'd act the same. If anyone did anything like this to anyone I respected and/or was friends of, I'd act the same.sadly garraeth, these 'pros' are too busy trying to fuck with Milos, that they are willing to go to no ends to "get back at him". Sean Rey is a sneaky bastard and Chick, I have held no opinion of you, but I have to say either you are blindly following selective rules that apply to certain people or you know full well the rules are only being applied to punish those who speak out. I'm starting to believe that you know this and you are part of the problem :-\
You guys misread my actions for being a fanboy. What you don't realize is that as I work with these people, I have less and less a chance of being a fanboy because I see their faults every day, and don't have them on pedestals. I respect them w/ or w/o their faults -- their positives outweight their negatives.
And, what you don't realize is that this is who I am -- with everybody. Even my nerdy computer friends. I'm a total supporter of all my computer friends AND bodybuilding friends -- they are all very cool, top-knotch, people...otherwise they wouldn't be my friends.
True friendship is something you all have apparently never figured out. Sad actually...
"It was your job?" ::)
Can you show us a link where all of us can see exact description of your job?
Myself, as the IFBB professional with large group of the foreign IFBB pros would like to see what that description is...so maybe we can use you for something...
So, what is the truth?Maybe he is scared to talk openly with you about it and how he feels about the situation. Perhaps he tells you what you want to hear, just a thought.
Maybe he is scared to talk openly with you about it and how he feels about the situation. Perhaps he tells you what you want to hear, just a thought.perhaps he tells AMI and Muscletech what they want to hear as that is were the money is ::)
sure...here you go. Let me know if I can be of any service to you!
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One that serves as a delegate or agent for another.
adj.
Representing, depicting, or portraying or able to do so.
Authorized to act as an official delegate or agent.
Of or characteristic of government by representation.
Like or typical of others of the same class.
I could tell you Milos but the post would just get deleted ;D
OK...now try to find IFBB Athlete's representative and give me a definition or description of your job.
Oh wait, doesn't IFBB have clear definition of your duties...your position and authorities?
"There is no intimidation, no threatening of his contract...just a statement from Silvio himself. I take no delight in this, as my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract...
Dont shoot the messnger...whatever issues you have w/ Silvio are your own."
Interestingly Bob, last night when I talked to him and asked him - Silvio you told me that Bob approached you back stage and told you about the possibilitty that you are going to loose the contract...yet he claims that he was backstage with his friend Don and you approached them...
So, what is the truth?
Get what I said right...I never indicated who approached who...it's irrelevant. For the record...I approached Silvio as I was making the rounds, shook hands, and he AKED about the situation...makes no difference.
He laughed and said: "Why would I approach him? He came to me...just think about it...I can't believe he is now saying this..."
I like how you twisted it around...nice work
Well, interestingly (again ;)) since than I haven't heard from him and all I see is your statement that obviously doesn't make sense.
AMI office and Robin Chang know very well that I am acting as his manager...but you and Shawn just want to create the situation in which I would look like someone who is not telling the truth.
As my word is EVERYTHING to me - I do have a problem when someone is trying to manipulate the truth.
I have not manipulated anything, and have only reiterated what was told to me by Robin Chang himself...and the email he receive from Silvio's own hands...is his own email manipulated?
Silvio will have something to say - that's for sure...and than we'll see what's the truth...
But, as you are saying: "my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract..." - what did you do so far in regards to ANY OTHER IFBB PRO'S contract?
Can't disclose that info, as it wouldn't be fair to those athletes I work with and the confidentiality which I keep. Their business is betwen them and I, and not relevant to this discussion
I am so glad you are saying that athlete's contracts are part of your job...I'll certainly have some pros contact you very soon...
Have anyone contact me that you wish...always glad to lend a helping hand...thats what I do.
Also, how did you even find out about PROBLEM Silvio is having?
Did Robin Chang personally called you on Saturday and told you to immediately do something about it - as IT IS YOUR JOB?
I've talked to Silvio himself, and Robin asked for me to get involved in the situationas the IFBB rep. I told Silvio at the NYPro, that I would "take care of business for him"...that's what I did.
perhaps he tells AMI and Muscletech what they want to hear as that is were the money isAs well he should. Many pros would like to be in his position with one contract much less two. He deserves it and why let photos on the internet ruin it.
OK...now try to find IFBB Athlete's representative and give me a definition or description of your job.
Oh wait, doesn't IFBB have clear definition of your duties...your position and authorities?
As well he should. Many pros would like to be in his position with one contract much less two. He deserves it and why let photos on the internet ruin it.I guess thats were I'm losing this all. His pics are all over the place, have been for months, why is it a problem now?
I think it's a dumb idea not to allow the competitors to show photos before a show, but I don't write his paycheck.
No, they don't as I explained to you...it was created by Myself and Shawn for the purpose of giving a voice to the athletes as a whole to work with the IFBB for change, and to assist in problems which directly affect an athlete...you have a problem with Silvio asking for my help?This post speaks volumes about you and Sean. ::)
I guess thats were I'm losing this all. His pics are all over the place, have been for months, why is it a problem now?
Chick, you said this was a AMI Muscletech contract issue and nothing to do with the IFBB, why as IFBB rep would you even get involved, unless to help Sean Rey, progress his agenda against Milos.This post speaks volumes about you and Sean. ::)
I guess thats were I'm losing this all. His pics are all over the place, have been for months, why is it a problem now?
It's a problem NOW because he's contract NOW...nothing can be done about pics taken BEFORE he signed a contract...get it?
Chick, you said this was a AMI Muscletech contract issue and nothing to do with the IFBB, why as IFBB rep would you even get involved, unless to help Sean Rey, progress his agenda against Milos.This post speaks volumes about you and Sean. ::)
Shawn and Milos' battle has nothing to do with Me, or Silvio, or this particular event...the post states the truth, nothing more, nothing less.
Chick, you said this was a AMI Muscletech contract issue and nothing to do with the IFBB, why as IFBB rep would you even get involved, unless to help Sean Rey, progress his agenda against Milos.This post speaks volumes about you and Sean. ::)
Silvio is an IFBB pro....
This isn't an IFBB issue, Numnutz...it's a contract issue. One has nothing to do with the other.
Thanks for playing...
thanks noc kinda what I was getting at, I was just too lazy to get the quotes :D
Exactly...YOU pulled out of the Olympia...YOU are the one who broke the rules, and YOU were the one that was to be held accountable by your own actions....your eyes may be open, but you cant see shit.
The rest of the athletes are doing exactly what YOU were doing...concentrating on themselves and their careers...just like you were too busy putting on color to attend a meeting to form a union...sorry, bro...too little, too late.
"There is no intimidation, no threatening of his contract...just a statement from Silvio himself. I take no delight in this, as my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract...
Dont shoot the messnger...whatever issues you have w/ Silvio are your own."
Interestingly Bob, last night when I talked to him and asked him - Silvio you told me that Bob approached you back stage and told you about the possibilitty that you are going to loose the contract...yet he claims that he was backstage with his friend Don and you approached them...
So, what is the truth?
He laughed and said: "Why would I approach him? He came to me...just think about it...I can't believe he is now saying this..."
Well, interestingly (again ;)) since than I haven't heard from him and all I see is your statement that obviously doesn't make sense.
AMI office and Robin Chang know very well that I am acting as his manager...but you and Shawn just want to create the situation in which I would look like someone who is not telling the truth.
As my word is EVERYTHING to me - I do have a problem when someone is trying to manipulate the truth.
Silvio will have something to say - that's for sure...and than we'll see what's the truth...
But, as you are saying: "my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract..." - what did you do so far in regards to ANY OTHER IFBB PRO'S contract?
I am so glad you are saying that athlete's contracts are part of your job...I'll certainly have some pros contact you very soon...
Also, how did you even find out about PROBLEM Silvio is having?
Did Robin Chang personally called you on Saturday and told you to immediately do something about it - as IT IS YOUR JOB?
sure...here you go. Let me know if I can be of any service to you!WELL YOUR NOT THEN..........TYPES FOR OTHERS OF SAME CLASSIFICATION...YOU ARE NOT THE SAME AS ANY COMPETING PRO THATS FOR SURE......SO YOU HAVE NO JOB...GOOD BYE
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rep·re·sen·ta·tive (rěp'rĭ-zěn'tə-tĭv) n.
One that serves as an example or type for others of the same classification.
One that serves as a delegate or agent for another.
adj.
Representing, depicting, or portraying or able to do so.
Authorized to act as an official delegate or agent.
Of or characteristic of government by representation.
Like or typical of others of the same class.
Yup. But I'm REALLY glad Silvio's contract is intact. Woulda been a HUGE loss on both sides to break up over such a stupid thing.
Silvio is really cool and fun to hang with.
However, after this, my eyes have really been opened to the true Shawn Ray. To play such mind games on someone who respected him hugely and was a fan is just evil. Just to get back at Milos. Ruin anyone in the attempt.
Not cool.
I was hearing things about this before all this hit the board and I knew right away that Shawn was up to no good. Shawn does not befriend anyone without an ulterior motive. Ya know, all jokes aside, one day Sean is gonna fuck with the wrong guy and wind up in more trouble than he can handle.
Shawn might have been the narc, but AMI is clearly petty and pathetic for their handling of this. They're supposed to be a fuccking legit business, yet they act like a cross between a bunch of two-bit high-schoolers and a (two-bit) mafia family.
They are acting like a legit business...one that is paying an athlete for the exclusive right to have pictures and interviews by their own people...you sure are involved alot in someones personal contract dealing for an IFBB rep, when contracts/IFBB are supposed to be seperate entities. I thought earlier in this thread Milos was unofficially helping Silvio with his contracts, how do you know so much about them? A little snooping perhaps?
There was already one warning issued before this ever took place...
Know your facts before making further comments..
I was hearing things about this before all this hit the board and I knew right away that Shawn was up to no good. Shawn does not befriend anyone without an ulterior motive. Ya know, all jokes aside, one day Sean is gonna fuck with the wrong guy and wind up in more trouble than he can handle.
you sure are involved alot in someones personal contract dealing for an IFBB rep, when contracts/IFBB are supposed to be seperate entities. I thought earlier in this thread Milos was unofficially helping Silvio with his contracts, how do you know so much about them? A little snooping perhaps?
No, they don't as I explained to you...it was created by Myself and Shawn for the purpose of giving a voice to the athletes as a whole to work with the IFBB for change, and to assist in problems which directly affect an athlete...you have a problem with Silvio asking for my help?
Excellent point! You've just destroyed their argument! What is silvio meant to do? hide from cameras like a movie star? Lol, nice one Milos. Once again you've outwitted the puppets ;D
If I am not his manager…and Silvio didn’t post that picture – HOW EXACTLY DID HE BREACH HIS CONTRACT?
Does contract stipulates that the athlete could NEVER take a single shot with ANYONE…and if he does he must request from that person that he absolutely CANNOT post the photo or else?
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I'm involved as I was asked to be involved.
Were talking about his AMI contract, not his Muscletech contract....although I have helped various athletes out with Supplement contracts from time to time.
BUT NOW – HERE IS THE QUESTION:
If I am not his manager…and Silvio didn’t post that picture – HOW EXACTLY DID HE BREACH HIS CONTRACT?
Does contract stipulates that the athlete could NEVER take a single shot with ANYONE…and if he does he must request from that person that he absolutely CANNOT post the photo or else?
BUT NOW – HERE IS THE QUESTION:
If I am not his manager…and Silvio didn’t post that picture – HOW EXACTLY DID HE BREACH HIS CONTRACT?
Does contract stipulates that the athlete could NEVER take a single shot with ANYONE…and if he does he must request from that person that he absolutely CANNOT post the photo or else?
I don't have to wait for the seminar - I already started answering...but certainly - come and ask me anything...
I think Silvio will be here by than...
Why can MADMAXI... who claims he is Jay's manager...post photos of Cutler and that's okay?
Is it because he has his lips around AMI's ass when they aren't on Jay's?
Get what I said right...I never indicated who approached who...it's irrelevant. For the record...I approached Silvio as I was making the rounds, shook hands, and he AKED about the situation...makes no difference.
*** It is kind of hard to get things right as you are manipulating the whole thing…
It was the matter of Silvio informing me that you approached him and told him “the news” (which was something that should have never happened 15 minutes before the prejudging). THAT IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
My whole point was that both you and Shawn could be at least that considerate to wait after competition or at least prejudging was over to tell him POSSIBLY VERY DISTURBING NEWS.
Obviously neither of you cared if this action will leave very negative impact on the athlete who was about to step on stage.
You would be absolutely right...If that's the way it was. It wasn't. I wasn't the one that informed Silvio, andcertainly NOT 15 minutes before the prejudging. Shawn had talked to Silvio....MUCH earlier than that, as someone had relayed to him that there were pics of him posted (once again) on your website...something you were told NOT to do AGAIN....as his alleged "manager", you think you would have been smart enough NOT TO DO IT AGAIN AND PUT "YOUR" CLIENTS CONTRACT IN JEOPARDY.
As you always “play the game” and twist things around – you said that you didn’t approach him and instead he came to you and asked you…
Now, after Silvio AGAIN confirmed that was other way around and that you indeed approached him. Now, you are claiming that you did approached him…but he was the one who actually asked you…?
He somehow knew that you must know something that interest him?
He knew because It was already brought up to him....as I said 100 times now. He was told and he was concerned as YOU told him those pics would not be put up...and were....AGAIN.
All I did was reasure him that I would take care of the situation and not to worry about it...Robin told himthe same thing as he was also there that day and also difused the situation...
It is typical you Bob…just like your report to Jim how ” I was running and screaming at Sandy at the Ironman”…when I was walking and talking to you...and THAN asking Tuman...etc...etc - never even looking at Sandy let alone screaming at her...
Never happened....I never said you were "screaming"..I said YOU were the one getting loud and making it a problem (which you were). When the story was told to Jim...it was that *WE* were screaming at Sandy....WE. I made perfectly sure that Jim knew it was YOU that was the hothead, not me as 25 people will attest.
Can't disclose that info, as it wouldn't be fair to those athletes I work with and the confidentiality which I keep. Their business is betwen them and I, and not relevant to this discussion
*** Can’t disclose the info?
My question was: “what did you do so far in regards to ANY OTHER IFBB PRO'S contract?”
I am sure that all of us would appreciate the fact that athletes rep indeed DID SOMETHING TO SOMEONE….of course…if you did….
I'm sure you would, and I'm quite sure THEY wouldn't appreciate their business out there as It was rquested that it not be....most athletes are not Getbig posters and don't want their shot out there...just like this is and just for this reason.
Have anyone contact me that you wish...always glad to lend a helping hand...thats what I do.
*** Who did you help so far and exactly HOW did you help?
By telling them 15 minutes before the prejudging they are about to loose contract…but not to worry about it as Super Bob is coming to their rescue?
See above...because you're scrambling, you're fixated on something that didn't happen. If you cant understand what I've written for the 20th time let me know, I'll rephrase it.
I've talked to Silvio himself, and Robin asked for me to get involved in the situationas the IFBB rep. I told Silvio at the NYPro, that I would "take care of business for him"...that's what I did.
*** Yes, you did talk to Silvio WHEN YOU SHOULDN’T - right before the prejudging….and that is EXACTLY what I complained about.
You wanting to help him is one thing…but doing it the way you did was anything but HELP!
Off course, now is serious issue for him…and he doesn’t know what to do…You and Shawn scared him enough that he doesn’t even want to talk about it – in fear that he will indeed loose the contract.
See above...and above that, etc, etc....
Silvio knows EXACTLY what to do, believe me.
Besides, 2 days BEFORE the competition he called Robin and asked him if it would be OK if Milos post just couple of his photos BEFORE the New York pro…as he believes that photos would get the attention of many people in the industry – which could be VERY GOOD THING for the competitor about to step on stage…
Robin told him that he will “check” with somebody and get back to him…
Morning of the show – just HOURS before hundreds of his photos from the show would be posted on numerous sites – I posted couple of photos of Silvio looking spectacular – to give him “little boost”…
With "managers" like you, who needs enemies? You were told once not to post pics on your site as it was a breach of Silvios contract....why would you put him in that position AGAIN? Was it that important to you?
Assuming your story is correct (which I have my doubts) Did obin ever get back to Silvio? I'm betting he didn't...as a matter of fact, I'm sure that never happened the way you said, as Silvio was quite stunned when those pics were on the internet, and felt quite deceived...THATS WHY HE WAS DISTRAUGHT. He thought you could be trusted...
You would think that EVERYONE who wishes him well would appreciate the photos…
And everyone who buys magazines would be even more excited to look for upcoming issue of the magazine who sponsors particular athlete…but AMEN….it seems to me that system doesn’t work this way…
No, It doesn't work that way...Chris Lund get paid to take photo's for Flex Mag...not you. Do you think HE appreciates you taking pictures when HE'S taking pictures, only to find those shots online? His lighting, his work, his photos....If they can see these same shots (or similiar) on YOUR website....WHY BUY THE MAGAZINE?
Once again, you've already been told NOT to do this, yet continue anyway, even at the expense of an athlete you were allegedly manager of....I guess you've already told us why..."you like to do things YOUR WAY and will continue to to...no matter what anyone tells you..."
BUT NOW – HERE IS THE QUESTION:
If I am not his manager…and Silvio didn’t post that picture – HOW EXACTLY DID HE BREACH HIS CONTRACT?
Does contract stipulates that the athlete could NEVER take a single shot with ANYONE…and if he does he must request from that person that he absolutely CANNOT post the photo or else?
No...YOU were told specifically as YOU were the one doing it. Silvio was in breach as the athlete himself is held accountable for HAVING the pictures taken....this was explained to YOU and to Silvio. Were not talking about the thumbs up pose with fans, or stage shots at the show, etc....don't start playing stupid, now.
It was created by yourself and Shawn?
GIVE ME A BREAK...
I was screaming for that for YEARS before you ever turned pro...
As the talk about that position started - I was the first one who jumped to help Shawn...
Screaming? I thought you didn't do that....! Freudian slip, perhaps.
Exactly..YOU were screaming...Shawn and I DID something about it...big difference.
After realizing how many pro's don't want to support Shawn - as they couldn't stand him - I had to talk them into...as well as call so many of my European friends just to get that number high enough.
Now, it is great that you recognize WHY we should have the rep...As you said: "purpose of giving a voice to the athletes as a whole to work with the IFBB for change, and to assist in problems which directly affect an athlete"
Can you show me a list of the athletes who REQUESTED recent changes?
Sadly, it is NOT THE ATHLETES who wanted ANY of the changes that happened under your term (when does it expire BTW?) - everyone knows WHO wanted the change - and you signed your name and agreed in the name of the IFBB athletes who didn't even have a clue what is going on...
Everything you do Bob is that way.
THat's right...and I'll continue to do things "my way" just as you have so proudly proclaimed that YOU do. It's many of the athletes that liked these changes...as I've asked you over and over...What's the disadvantage of being able to do the mandatory poses AND any other poses you feel shows off your physique??
How did you find out from the athletes that indeed they want to change the first round?
I get a general sense as I ravel all over and see many of those athletes...simple...we talk. Since the athletes have shown they have little to no interest in attending meetings, I can only assume that they are content to have me make the decisions on their behalf (as thats what a REPRESENTATIVE does) and so far...all of those changes have been positively received...ZERO complaints...except for YOU, of course...big surprise there)
Next, did we vote for it?
How many of us agreed?
EXACTLY...
And NO, I don't have a problem if Silvio or anyone else ask you for the help...
I have a problem with WHAT you did in New York backstage...disturbing him in the worst possible time.
Great help indeed.
See the above post by me where I address that...over , and over, and over, and over........
"I was screaming for that for YEARS before you ever turned pro..."
Yea, like a little Girl about how small your arms were /are!
Milos, you POSTED the Pictures knowing the Drama it would cause Silvio and you succeeded!
None of this would be an issue if you hadn't lied to the poor guy when YOU snapped the Pictures of him with YOUR camera and Posted them on the NET KNOWING the end result, while telling Silvio you would not do that!
You can point fingers all you want OJ errr MILOS but they always come back to you!
Ask Gustavo, Mustafa and the like, It just happens to be Silvio's turn.
For the Record: Silvio will NOT be apprearing at Milos' FREE SEMINAR on the 19th thanks to MILOS' actions over the Weekend and that's a FACT! :-*
You like Apples? How ya like Dim Apples! :o
I agree!Shawn I don’t even know but you take the word hypocrite on the dictionary to the next level, I’m going to see if they can add you picture next to it. Almost forgot add sexual predator to that ;D ;D
You can bring that up to Milos when you go there. His actions are reprehensible as Silvio certainly wanted to be there for the fans, now Milos has made that impossible.
Nice job MISHKO :'(
Keep up the great work, first you screw Gustavo, then Mustafa and now Silvio.
Know wonder your Suspended from the IFBB you keep ruining things for these guys trying todo something for themselves now it is affecting the fans! :-\
No, they don't as I explained to you...it was created by Myself and Shawn for the purpose of giving a voice to the athletes as a whole to work with the IFBB for change, and to assist in problems which directly affect an athlete...you have a problem with Silvio asking for my help?
Milos, put down the crack pipe my friend. You are the one who has caused Silvio so much grief with AMI. And the balls you have to ask for 100K in which you thought Silvio deserved 50K. No wonder Robin tossed you on your ass. With friends like you, Silvio can't afford enemies.
The only person who needs to put down the pipe is you Shawn...(oh, I forgot...it is your alter ego texasbubba I am talking to...)
Obviously you are in some LALA land speaking of 50 , 100 ...why don't we go for a cool 200 "K"s?
Indeed - put that pipe away...ASAP...
"I was screaming for that for YEARS before you ever turned pro..."
Yea, like a little Girl about how small your arms were /are!
Milos, you POSTED the Pictures knowing the Drama it would cause Silvio and you succeeded!
None of this would be an issue if you hadn't lied to the poor guy when YOU snapped the Pictures of him with YOUR camera and Posted them on the NET KNOWING the end result, while telling Silvio you would not do that!
You can point fingers all you want OJ errr MILOS but they always come back to you!
Ask Gustavo, Mustafa and the like, It just happens to be Silvio's turn.
For the Record: Silvio will NOT be apprearing at Milos' FREE SEMINAR on the 19th thanks to MILOS' actions over the Weekend and that's a FACT! :-*
You like Apples? How ya like Dim Apples! :o
You guys can debate bullshit and sling mud all day long if you think it will accomplish anything....BUT...I will say that Texasbubba is NOT Shawn...as I now him personally. He is involved in the industry, and has an extensive business background, and probably boasts the biggest bank account on the site..by far.
You guys can debate bullshit and sling mud all day long if you think it will accomplish anything....BUT...I will say that Texasbubba is NOT Shawn...as I now him personally. He is involved in the industry, and has an extensive business background, and probably boasts the biggest bank account on the site..by far.
I was hearing things about this before all this hit the board and I knew right away that Shawn was up to no good. Shawn does not befriend anyone without an ulterior motive. Ya know, all jokes aside, one day Sean is gonna fuck with the wrong guy and wind up in more trouble than he can handle.
You guys can debate bullshit and sling mud all day long if you think it will accomplish anything....BUT...I will say that Texasbubba is NOT Shawn...as I now him personally. He is involved in the industry, and has an extensive business background, and probably boasts the biggest bank account on the site..by far.stop enabling a stooge
and probably boasts the biggest bank account on the site..by far.::)
Hey bubba. Im building a redwood deck in my back yard today. Can you spot me $18,000 dollars for it??? I heard your loaded.
exasbubba is NOT Shawn...as I now him personally.::)
don't loan money to dead beats. This is how the rich stay rich and get richer.
Bubba is Shawn "pedophile" ray.
Bubba is Shawn "pedophile" ray.
Im going to Fuck you soon. Are you off your period yet.
Dude, you are such a looser. Is your lunch break at the factory done yet? And, stop it with all your come on's. I don't swing that way.
Youre too easy....... By the way you cant swing any direction........cuz its called a pussy!!!! :o
I heard the last pussy you had was on the way out of you mother; any truth to that?
Why did Shawn choose the alias "Texas Bubba", was that supposed to be real tricky and incognito ?
::) ;D
I fucking you, and youre a pussy...so....no.
Being identified as Shawn is a complmient. Thank you. I could have only dreamed of being a world class bodybuilder
It is okay to answer the question; is the last piece of pussy you had your mothers?
LOl Youre comprehension skills are about as developed as your spelling skills.
"Suffistication" lolololololll ;D
As is your ability to make more than 100K a year...LOL.
I'd have to lose 325k a year to make 100k........Too funny.......Suffisticate d...
what a bunch of losers on this board...any guy with a real job and a good income wouldn't waste half of his day on a silly message board shouting insults like a 5th grader.
You sound like youre "finacially challenged". :-[
You guys can debate bullshit and sling mud all day long if you think it will accomplish anything....BUT...I will say that Texasbubba is NOT Shawn...as I now him personally. He is involved in the industry, and has an extensive business background, and probably boasts the biggest bank account on the site..by far.
Being identified as Shawn is a complient. Thank you. I could have only dreamed of being a world class tranny fucker. However, I took a different path in life, I only fuck old schmoes.
Not even close, Bill made his money behind a desk. I made money capping and putting out well fires. But, I appreciate the complement.
War Horse is a wannabeanythingnothing.
Is trying to take 50K you job? Does that make you a friend? Manager? Or, Crook?
don't loan money to dead beats. This is how the rich stay rich and get richer.
Milos,
Here again you don't get it. You are the one without credibility. You plead no contest, which in legal terms is short for guilty. You lie about being Silvio's manager. You lied about not acting like a mad man with Sandy. You lied that you were given VIP treatment in NY (Steve gave you the same treatment he did everyone else, he also told you that you could stay as long as you kept you mouth shut during the athletes meeting).
We have an opportunity to vote on the Reps position every year at the Olympia. I assume you would like this position. We don't need a man with you lack of integrity in this job. You may want a piece of everyone's contract. You do recall trying to squeeze 50K out of Robin don't you.
As for Shawn, he has done a great job promoting his and Jeff's contest. Maybe you should try your hand at promoting. I am sure you can afford the sanction fee with a few more deals...LOL.
As for your suspension, the vote has not occurred yet so don't count your chickens before they hatch.
what kind of furniture does he sell? or is that code? if he does sell furniture, isn't there a sales tax?
or is it like craigslist stuff?
Good question. If he sells redwood decks, Id like a bid.
And no, i did not say redwood dicks.. ;D
hahaha another meaningless post by the nobody TexasBlubber. But hey man at least you're rich.
Bob can you comfirm the rumours Ronnie coleman may be issued a warning over Milos's pictures? ::)
Or is shawn ray on good terms with him so no need?
Bob if it was comfirmed Milos was NOT silvo's official manager why was he then issued a warning?
Speak on this.
He was warned that it would put Silvios contract in jeopardy...as he was the one responsible.
Milos took the pics and posted them on HIS own website...thats why he was warned.
honest question for ya bob cause I reqally don't know:
as I understand it you're the "ifbb" athlete rep, right? just looking at the title I would think that you would be the "go between" for the athlete's and the federation, is this accurate? Now the IFBB and AMI-or Weider, whoever Silvio had his contract with-are supposed to be 2 seperate entities, are they not? Why are you dealing with an athlete and a company that sponsers him? It seems to me you're "power" or "authority" should only pertian to matters that involve the athletes and the IFBB not spill over to individuals contract disputes. How far off base and I on this?
This isn't an IFBB issue, Numnutz...it's a contract issue. One has nothing to do with the other.
Thanks for playing...
Milos also has MANY pictures of Ronnie posted on his website, why isn't he in jeopardy of losing his contract?
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I'd say your spot on, even bob admits one has nothing to do with the other here.
::)
He was warned that it would put Silvios contract in jeopardy...as he was the one responsible.
Milos took the pics and posted them on HIS own website...thats why he was warned.
He states that Milos is NOT his manager.
There will be no action taken in reguards to his breach of contract.
He has been isssued a warning.
honest question for ya bob cause I reqally don't know:
as I understand it you're the "ifbb" athlete rep, right? just looking at the title I would think that you would be the "go between" for the athlete's and the federation, is this accurate? Now the IFBB and AMI-or Weider, whoever Silvio had his contract with-are supposed to be 2 seperate entities, are they not? Why are you dealing with an athlete and a company that sponsers him? It seems to me you're "power" or "authority" should only pertian to matters that involve the athletes and the IFBB not spill over to individuals contract disputes. How far off base and I on this?
If Bobby puppet could take his head out of Chang's, Weiders', Manion's and what not's ass, he would take the time to give a good check at Milos' site and find out the zillion pics of almost all the pros on his message boards. Hell, Chick even has his own picture thread there, dedicated to him.....
And as I am a member of that board, I can attest that Milos has been posting the athlete's photos on the site for years now. Why does nobody never ever took action regarding this, at the Woodlan Hills H.Q. ??
Isn't it strange that the only time someone from the Weider group decided to 'punish' one of the featured athletes at Milos' board, is specifically when Milos is at an all time high hotwater in his life as a pro athlete, being at the brink of losing his earnings from his affiliation with the IFBB?
Milos ran a pictorial of a training session he had with Ronnie Coleman, a leg training session, right before the 2004 O. , in his message board. At that time, like everyone know, Ronnie was the golden boy who was wearing the crown. How on Earth NOBODY at the Weider's, or Mr. Robin 'Paladine' Chang TOOK ACTIONS AGAINST RONNIE???? OR MILOS????????
Something that makes you go hummmmmm....like the triple chinned has-been black midget always like vomit at the end of each one of his posts...
Kind of like the way IFBB selects to enforce some of their rules...about athletes in adult films, performance enhancing drugs...and rival federations...they flip a coin on it. you never know what they'll come after you for!
Feel Free to chime in L.P. ;D
He was warned that it would put Silvios contract in jeopardy...as he was the one responsible.
Milos took the pics and posted them on HIS own website...thats why he was warned.
DID ANYONE ASK WHY POSTING PICS ON GETBIG.COM is good or bad thing?
WHY DO WE HAVE BOARDS TO BEGIN WITH?
WHY MANY PROS AND MANY OFFICIALS COME HERE (or other bodybuilding boards)?
DOES ANYONE HERE (pros and officials mentioned) DO NOT LIKE SEEING PHOTOS OF THE IFBB PROS IN PREPARATION FOR THEIR CONTESTS - AND IF SO - WHY?
We (members of this and OTHER bodybuilding boards ARE FANS OF OUR SPORT. Sport of bodybuilding that is). I know that each of us ENJOY seeing photos - REGARDLESS of what we "have to say".
Pro bodybuilders and officials in high positions ARE also fans just like every other member here... ;)
PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS POSTED PICS ......WITH NO PROBLEMS
Fuck, you know how many times I've already asked this same question? What about all the various pictures of Bob and Shawn?!? All I got was something about how amature pictures don't "count"...well, hell, if I took the photos (which I took a hell of a lot of them), then they are taken by an AMATURE -- me.
Oh, but there are a zillion pictures of shawn and bob on the internet on about 5000 websites. PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS! Not amature photos. They better watch out for their contracts too.
And when someone spams 5000 more websites with their photos, does that mean Shawn and Bob are in even more hot water? Dammit Bob and Shawn, you two better start hunting down all the site owners and sending them cease and desist letters!!!
...oh, don't forget about YouTube.com...man you guys are so screwed when your sponsors find out that you've got a zillion videos up on YouTube.
He was warned that it would put Silvios contract in jeopardy...as he was the one responsible.so if I take pictures of Silvio and put them on my website, Silvio gets busted? f'ing lame. Makes absolutely no sense. That means Silvio should never take pics with fans because they may be put on a website and put his contract in jeopardy ::)
Milos took the pics and posted them on HIS own website...thats why he was warned.
honest question for ya bob cause I reqally don't know:
as I understand it you're the "ifbb" athlete rep, right? just looking at the title I would think that you would be the "go between" for the athlete's and the federation, is this accurate? Now the IFBB and AMI-or Weider, whoever Silvio had his contract with-are supposed to be 2 seperate entities, are they not? Why are you dealing with an athlete and a company that sponsers him? It seems to me you're "power" or "authority" should only pertian to matters that involve the athletes and the IFBB not spill over to individuals contract disputes. How far off base and I on this?
Bob, in case you missed it....Milos also has MANY pictures of RONNIE COLEMAN posted on his website, why isn't RONNIE in jeopardy of losing his contract?1
as I understand it you're the "ifbb" athlete rep, right? just looking at the title I would think that you would be the "go between" for the athlete's and the federation, is this accurate?
I get a general sense as I ravel all over and see many of those athletes...simple...we talk. Since the athletes have shown they have little to no interest in attending meetings, I can only assume that they are content to have me make the decisions on their behalf (as thats what a REPRESENTATIVE does)
First of all, once again, Silvio is not in danger of losing his contract. This was already discussed and debated. So enough if this question. It was answered Tuesday.ya know Ronald, you're right, Chick's involvement is minimal, and probably helpful ??? (I hope)
I spoke to Silvio today. I wanted to hear it from the real source. No one else. According to Silvio, the only time Bob got involved is when Bob came backstage to greet all of the competitors, and Silvio approached him to ask him to make sure things are ok with AMI. That was Bob's extent. So back off on Bob, he was doing the right job as Athlete's Liason. And he did it right. Stop associated Bob with Shawn or others.
You still going to the seminar or are you backing out too?
Of course I am going, debate and discussion is one thing, but I will be there covering it for getbig and bb.com, plus bringing some protein samples and perhaps other things for the people that come. You can ask any questions you want, and I want to ask some of my own questions. You foget I had a 30 minute conversation with Silvio today about exactly what happened and everything, but I will go over with Milos on it on Saturday privately instead of on the boards.
Of course I am going, debate and discussion is one thing, but I will be there covering it for getbig and bb.com, plus bringing some protein samples and perhaps other things for the people that come. You can ask any questions you want, and I want to ask some of my own questions. You foget I had a 30 minute conversation with Silvio today about exactly what happened and everything, but I will go over with Milos on it on Saturday privately instead of on the boards.
Of course I am going, debate and discussion is one thing, but I will be there covering it for getbig and bb.com, plus bringing some protein samples and perhaps other things for the people that come. You can ask any questions you want, and I want to ask some of my own questions. You foget I had a 30 minute conversation with Silvio today about exactly what happened and everything, but I will go over with Milos on it on Saturday privately instead of on the boards.
Privately instead of on the boards...after you just posted how supposedly Silvio asked me NOT TO POST his photo and I did... ::)
Just like he also said that I was NEVER authorized to talk in his behalf and also I was never his manager...
Or all this "little confusion" of who approached who - was it Bob approaching him or vice versa...and the story changes just about every time...
Well, for the time being I will leave it at that...
Ron, I will see you before the seminar if you wish to disscuss anything privately...however I don't mind answering your questions publicaly...here on board or during my seminar...
What's more - Silvio can still come to the seminar and answer all the questions right there - in front of everyone... ;)
so are you Silvio's manager??
Hey bubba. Im building a redwood deck in my back yard today. Can you spot me $18,000 dollars for it??? I heard your loaded.