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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2007, 05:51:23 PM »


"It was your job?" ::)

Can you show us a link where all of us can see exact description of your job?

Myself, as the IFBB professional with large group of the foreign IFBB pros would like to see what that description is...so maybe we can use you for something...


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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2007, 05:57:05 PM »
"It was your job?" ::)

Can you show us a link where all of us can see exact description of your job?

Myself, as the IFBB professional with large group of the foreign IFBB pros would like to see what that description is...so maybe we can use you for something...



Chick's "job" is to keep the IFBB/AMI brass happy, while pretending to "look out" for the athletes

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2007, 06:07:00 PM »
heh, Silvio is a really cool guy. If anyone did something like this to Hide, Mustafa, Milos, 240 or Bust, Tanya, or Hans, I'd act the same. If anyone did anything like this to anyone I respected and/or was friends of, I'd act the same.

You guys misread my actions for being a fanboy.  What you don't realize is that as I work with these people, I have less and less a chance of being a fanboy because I see their faults every day, and don't have them on pedestals. I respect them w/ or w/o their faults -- their positives outweight their negatives.

And, what you don't realize is that this is who I am -- with everybody. Even my nerdy computer friends. I'm a total supporter of all my computer friends AND bodybuilding friends -- they are all very cool, top-knotch, people...otherwise they wouldn't be my friends.

True friendship is something you all have apparently never figured out. Sad actually...


sadly garraeth, these 'pros' are too busy trying to fuck with Milos, that they are willing to go to no ends to "get back at him". Sean Rey is a sneaky bastard and Chick, I have held no opinion of you, but I have to say either you are blindly following selective rules that apply to certain people or you know full well the rules are only being applied to punish those who speak out. I'm starting to believe that you know this and you are part of the problem :-\

And I still don't understand what the fuckin problem is in the first place. ???

thousands of precontest pics are posted before every contest, why is this just now an issue?



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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2007, 06:08:16 PM »
"There is no intimidation, no threatening of his contract...just a statement from Silvio himself. I take no delight in this, as my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract...

Dont shoot the messnger...whatever issues you have w/ Silvio are your own."


Interestingly Bob, last night when I talked to him and asked him - Silvio you told me that Bob approached you back stage and told you about the possibilitty that you are going to loose the contract...yet he claims that he was backstage with his friend Don and you approached them...

So, what is the truth?

He laughed and said: "Why would I approach him? He came to me...just think about it...I can't believe he is now saying this..."

Well, interestingly (again ;)) since than I haven't heard from him and all I see is your statement that obviously doesn't make sense.

AMI office and Robin Chang know very well that I am acting as his manager...but you and Shawn just want to create the situation in which I would look like someone who is not telling the truth.
As my word is EVERYTHING to me - I do have a problem when someone is trying to manipulate the truth.

Silvio will have something to say - that's for sure...and than we'll see what's the truth...

But, as you are saying: "my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract..." - what did you do so far in regards to ANY OTHER IFBB PRO'S contract?

I am so glad you are saying that athlete's contracts are part of your job...I'll certainly have some pros contact you very soon...

Also, how did you even find out about PROBLEM Silvio is having?
Did Robin Chang personally called you on Saturday and told you to immediately do something about it - as IT IS YOUR JOB?

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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2007, 06:10:36 PM »
"It was your job?" ::)

Can you show us a link where all of us can see exact description of your job?

Myself, as the IFBB professional with large group of the foreign IFBB pros would like to see what that description is...so maybe we can use you for something...



sure...here you go. Let me know if I can be of any service to you!


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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2007, 06:12:41 PM »
So, what is the truth?
Maybe he is scared to talk openly with you about it and how he feels about the situation. Perhaps he tells you what you want to hear, just a thought.
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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2007, 06:17:16 PM »
Maybe he is scared to talk openly with you about it and how he feels about the situation. Perhaps he tells you what you want to hear, just a thought.
perhaps he tells AMI and Muscletech what they want to hear as that is were the money is ::)
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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2007, 06:20:32 PM »
sure...here you go. Let me know if I can be of any service to you!


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One that serves as an example or type for others of the same classification.
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Of or characteristic of government by representation.
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OK...now try to find IFBB Athlete's representative and give me a definition or description of your job.

Oh wait, doesn't IFBB have clear definition of your duties...your position and authorities?

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2007, 06:21:38 PM »
ya, you are a really unbiased source "Lift Studios", speaking of ass kissing schmoes.  ::)

         

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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2007, 06:23:11 PM »

OK...now try to find IFBB Athlete's representative and give me a definition or description of your job.

Oh wait, doesn't IFBB have clear definition of your duties...your position and authorities?
I could tell you Milos but the post would just get deleted ;D
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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2007, 06:28:05 PM »
"There is no intimidation, no threatening of his contract...just a statement from Silvio himself. I take no delight in this, as my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract...

Dont shoot the messnger...whatever issues you have w/ Silvio are your own."


Interestingly Bob, last night when I talked to him and asked him - Silvio you told me that Bob approached you back stage and told you about the possibilitty that you are going to loose the contract...yet he claims that he was backstage with his friend Don and you approached them...

So, what is the truth?

Get what I said right...I never indicated who approached who...it's irrelevant. For the record...I approached Silvio as I was making the rounds, shook hands, and he AKED about the situation...makes no difference.

He laughed and said: "Why would I approach him? He came to me...just think about it...I can't believe he is now saying this..."

I like how you twisted it around...nice work


Well, interestingly (again ;)) since than I haven't heard from him and all I see is your statement that obviously doesn't make sense.

AMI office and Robin Chang know very well that I am acting as his manager...but you and Shawn just want to create the situation in which I would look like someone who is not telling the truth.
As my word is EVERYTHING to me - I do have a problem when someone is trying to manipulate the truth.

I have not manipulated anything, and have only reiterated what was told to me by Robin Chang himself...and the email he receive from Silvio's own hands...is his own email manipulated?


Silvio will have something to say - that's for sure...and than we'll see what's the truth...

But, as you are saying: "my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract..." - what did you do so far in regards to ANY OTHER IFBB PRO'S contract?

Can't disclose that info, as it wouldn't be fair to those athletes I work with and the confidentiality which I keep. Their business is betwen them and I, and not relevant to this discussion

I am so glad you are saying that athlete's contracts are part of your job...I'll certainly have some pros contact you very soon...

Have anyone contact me that you wish...always glad to lend a helping hand...thats what I do.

Also, how did you even find out about PROBLEM Silvio is having?
Did Robin Chang personally called you on Saturday and told you to immediately do something about it - as IT IS YOUR JOB?

I've talked to Silvio himself, and Robin asked for me to get involved in the situationas the IFBB rep. I told Silvio at the NYPro, that I would "take care of business for him"...that's what I did.

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2007, 06:28:44 PM »
perhaps he tells AMI and Muscletech what they want to hear as that is were the money is
As well he should. Many pros would like to be in his position with one contract much less two. He deserves it and why let photos on the internet ruin it.

I think it's a dumb idea not to allow the competitors to show photos before a show, but I don't write his paycheck.

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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2007, 06:30:49 PM »

OK...now try to find IFBB Athlete's representative and give me a definition or description of your job.

Oh wait, doesn't IFBB have clear definition of your duties...your position and authorities?

No, they don't as I explained to you...it was created by Myself and Shawn for the purpose of giving a voice to the athletes as a whole to work with the IFBB for change, and to assist in problems which directly affect an athlete...you have a problem with Silvio asking for my help?

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2007, 06:32:25 PM »
As well he should. Many pros would like to be in his position with one contract much less two. He deserves it and why let photos on the internet ruin it.

I think it's a dumb idea not to allow the competitors to show photos before a show, but I don't write his paycheck.


I guess thats were I'm losing this all. His pics are all over the place, have been for months, why is it a problem now?



Chick, you said this was a AMI Muscletech contract issue and nothing to do with the IFBB, why as IFBB rep would you even get involved, unless to help Sean Rey, progress his agenda against Milos.
No, they don't as I explained to you...it was created by Myself and Shawn for the purpose of giving a voice to the athletes as a whole to work with the IFBB for change, and to assist in problems which directly affect an athlete...you have a problem with Silvio asking for my help?
This post speaks volumes about  you and Sean. ::)
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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2007, 06:39:57 PM »
I guess thats were I'm losing this all. His pics are all over the place, have been for months, why is it a problem now?



Chick, you said this was a AMI Muscletech contract issue and nothing to do with the IFBB, why as IFBB rep would you even get involved, unless to help Sean Rey, progress his agenda against Milos.This post speaks volumes about  you and Sean. ::)

Silvio is an IFBB pro....


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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #90 on: May 15, 2007, 06:50:33 PM »
I guess thats were I'm losing this all. His pics are all over the place, have been for months, why is it a problem now?

It's a problem NOW because he's contract NOW...nothing can be done about pics taken BEFORE he signed a contract...get it?

Chick, you said this was a AMI Muscletech contract issue and nothing to do with the IFBB, why as IFBB rep would you even get involved, unless to help Sean Rey, progress his agenda against Milos.This post speaks volumes about  you and Sean. ::)

Shawn and Milos' battle has nothing to do with Me, or Silvio, or this particular event...the post states the truth, nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2007, 06:53:57 PM »

Chick, you said this was a AMI Muscletech contract issue and nothing to do with the IFBB, why as IFBB rep would you even get involved, unless to help Sean Rey, progress his agenda against Milos.This post speaks volumes about  you and Sean. ::)

Silvio is an IFBB pro....



This isn't an IFBB issue, Numnutz...it's a contract issue. One has nothing to do with the other.

Thanks for playing...

Thanks for playing Chicy.

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2007, 07:08:39 PM »
thanks noc kinda what I was getting at, I was just too lazy to get the quotes :D
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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #93 on: May 15, 2007, 07:13:38 PM »
thanks noc kinda what I was getting at, I was just too lazy to get the quotes :D

I would of been too if that 'numnuts' quote wasn't directed to me ;)

how ironic eh 'chic'

not an ifbb issue....is an ifbb issue...the ifbb rep is involved...not an ifbb issue again...contracts + ifbb never inter-link...sean ray does he-shes...

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #94 on: May 15, 2007, 07:31:10 PM »
Exactly...YOU pulled out of the Olympia...YOU are the one who broke the rules, and YOU were the one that was to be held accountable by your own actions....your eyes may be open, but you cant see shit.

The rest of the athletes are doing exactly what YOU were doing...concentrating on themselves and their careers...just like you were too busy putting on color to attend a meeting to form a union...sorry, bro...too little, too late.

NO I CAN SEE YOUR PICS SO I GUESS I CAN SEE SHIT.....OH THAT STORY AGAIN BOB...ITS AS OLD AS YOU

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #95 on: May 15, 2007, 07:35:35 PM »
"There is no intimidation, no threatening of his contract...just a statement from Silvio himself. I take no delight in this, as my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract...

Dont shoot the messnger...whatever issues you have w/ Silvio are your own."


Interestingly Bob, last night when I talked to him and asked him - Silvio you told me that Bob approached you back stage and told you about the possibilitty that you are going to loose the contract...yet he claims that he was backstage with his friend Don and you approached them...

So, what is the truth?

He laughed and said: "Why would I approach him? He came to me...just think about it...I can't believe he is now saying this..."

Well, interestingly (again ;)) since than I haven't heard from him and all I see is your statement that obviously doesn't make sense.

AMI office and Robin Chang know very well that I am acting as his manager...but you and Shawn just want to create the situation in which I would look like someone who is not telling the truth.
As my word is EVERYTHING to me - I do have a problem when someone is trying to manipulate the truth.

Silvio will have something to say - that's for sure...and than we'll see what's the truth...

But, as you are saying: "my job was to do what I could for Silvio in reguards to his contract..." - what did you do so far in regards to ANY OTHER IFBB PRO'S contract?

I am so glad you are saying that athlete's contracts are part of your job...I'll certainly have some pros contact you very soon...

Also, how did you even find out about PROBLEM Silvio is having?
Did Robin Chang personally called you on Saturday and told you to immediately do something about it - as IT IS YOUR JOB?


MILOS LIKE I SAID....I BELIEVE YOU....POOR SILVOI IS JUST BEING TOLD WHAT TO SAY TO KEEP IS CONTRACT...THEY TOLD ME WHAT TO SAY AND WRITE AND YOU KNOW WHAT I DID NOW.....:)

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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2007, 07:39:24 PM »
sure...here you go. Let me know if I can be of any service to you!


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rep·re·sen·ta·tive       (rěp'rĭ-zěn'tə-tĭv)  n.


  
One that serves as an example or type for others of the same classification.
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WELL YOUR NOT THEN..........TYPES FOR OTHERS OF SAME CLASSIFICATION...YOU ARE NOT THE SAME AS ANY COMPETING PRO  THATS FOR SURE......SO YOU HAVE NO JOB...GOOD BYE

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Re: Silvio Samuels AMI Contract Status
« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2007, 07:41:56 PM »
bob is the IFBB's representative to the athletes, not the athletes' representative to the IFBB.
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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #98 on: May 15, 2007, 07:55:12 PM »
Yup. But I'm REALLY glad Silvio's contract is intact. Woulda been a HUGE loss on both sides to break up over such a stupid thing.

Silvio is really cool and fun to hang with.



However, after this, my eyes have really been opened to the true Shawn Ray. To play such mind games on someone who respected him hugely and was a fan is just evil. Just to get back at Milos. Ruin anyone in the attempt.
Not cool.



I was hearing things about this before all this hit the board and I knew right away that Shawn was up to no good. Shawn does not befriend anyone without an ulterior motive. Ya know, all jokes aside, one day Sean is gonna fuck with the wrong guy and wind up in more trouble than he can handle.

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Re: SILVIO SAMUELS AMI CONTRACT STATUS
« Reply #99 on: May 15, 2007, 08:03:09 PM »
I was hearing things about this before all this hit the board and I knew right away that Shawn was up to no good. Shawn does not befriend anyone without an ulterior motive. Ya know, all jokes aside, one day Sean is gonna fuck with the wrong guy and wind up in more trouble than he can handle.

Shawn might have been the narc, but AMI is clearly petty and pathetic for their handling of this.  They're supposed to be a fuccking legit business, yet they act like a cross between a bunch of two-bit high-schoolers and a (two-bit) mafia family.
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