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Title: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Lift Studios on May 24, 2007, 12:14:56 PM
MD radio takes a direct jab at Getbig supported Pro Bodybuilding Weekly by extending into a second hour. What will happen when no one calls in because bodybuilding fans are listening to PBW?

According to co-host John Romano, “The new two-hour format gives us the freedom to delve deeper into the psyche of our guests.  It will loosen up the show.  It’ll also allow us to have in-depth segments on nutrition and supplements.”

 According to Muscular Development owner, Steve Blechman, “This new extended format gives us the perfect opportunity to have an open call-in segment.  For the first time in bodybuilding radio history, listeners will have a chance to interact with their idols, LIVE!  As we all know, listener interaction, ultimately, leads to a greater sense of community!”
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: 240 is Back on May 24, 2007, 12:16:07 PM
For the first time in bodybuilding radio history, listeners will have a chance to interact with their idols, LIVE!  

Second time, actually.

PBW originally had a call-in segment, didn't they?
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: Bluto on May 24, 2007, 12:17:47 PM
they can have 24-7 for what i care. put someone like adonis on there and he can talk for hours on his diet round it up with vince goodrum who talks so slow that he need a few hours just to get his point across

sky is the limit
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 24, 2007, 12:18:21 PM
Second time, actually.

PBW originally had a call-in segment, didn't they?

Yes in fact they did.
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: gordiano on May 24, 2007, 12:18:35 PM
MD radio takes a direct jab at Getbig supported Pro Bodybuilding Weekly by extending into a second hour. As if listening to tranny talk and anal sex wasn't enough in one hour, listeners now get two hours. What will happen when no one calls in because bodybuilding fans are listening to PBW?

According to co-host John Romano, “The new two-hour format gives us the freedom to delve deeper into the psyche of our guests.  It will loosen up the show.  It’ll also allow us to have in-depth segments on nutrition and supplements.”

 According to Muscular Development owner, Steve Blechman, “This new extended format gives us the perfect opportunity to have an open call-in segment.  For the first time in bodybuilding radio history, listeners will have a chance to interact with their idols, LIVE!  As we all know, listener interaction, ultimately, leads to a greater sense of community!”


HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Ron on May 24, 2007, 12:19:34 PM

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MD NO BULL RADIO, co-hosted by John Romano and Dave Palumbo, has extended its show’s format to 2 hours starting this Monday May 28, 2007 (7pm EST).  Due to popular demand and an increased listenership over the last several weeks, The Muscle Mob has decided to extend its “shroud of influence” into the uncharted waters of a multi-hour radio show. 


While I have no problem with this move expanding into two hours, I think it is grossly unfair for the Muscle Mob to blatantly attack Pro Bodybuilding Radio's time slot by expanding directly into theirs.

There are 168 hours in a week, and yet, this was chosen to attack the one hour per week that PBW is on.  It was nice to be able to go ahead and listen to No Bull for one hour and then PBW for the other room, but this move, attacking and trying to split the very fans that we all covet, is not cool.

Perhaps one hour earlier would solve the problem. Can you think about doing that???

Now, yes, we can all download it, and listen to it later, but as a PR move, splitting the audience, or trying to just isnt cool.

Keep this discussion focused please.
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: Stark on May 24, 2007, 12:19:55 PM
Bodybuilding radio ::)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Chick on May 24, 2007, 12:21:54 PM


While I have no problem with this move expanding into two hours, I think it is grossly unfair for the Muscle Mob to blatantly attack Pro Bodybuilding Radio's time slot by expanding directly into theirs.

There are 168 hours in a week, and yet, this was chosen to attack the one hour per week that PBW is on.  It was nice to be able to go ahead and listen to No Bull for one hour and then PBW for the other room, but this move, attacking and trying to split the very fans that we all covet, is not cool.

Perhaps one hour earlier would solve the problem. Can you think about doing that???

Now, yes, we can all download it, and listen to it later, but as a PR move, splitting the audience, or trying to just isnt cool.

Keep this discussion focused please.


And this surprises you?
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: Lee_a_priest on May 24, 2007, 12:24:32 PM
MD radio takes a direct jab at Getbig supported Pro Bodybuilding Weekly by extending into a second hour. As if listening to tranny talk and anal sex wasn't enough in one hour, listeners now get two hours. What will happen when no one calls in because bodybuilding fans are listening to PBW?

According to co-host John Romano, “The new two-hour format gives us the freedom to delve deeper into the psyche of our guests.  It will loosen up the show.  It’ll also allow us to have in-depth segments on nutrition and supplements.”

 According to Muscular Development owner, Steve Blechman, “This new extended format gives us the perfect opportunity to have an open call-in segment.  For the first time in bodybuilding radio history, listeners will have a chance to interact with their idols, LIVE!  As we all know, listener interaction, ultimately, leads to a greater sense of community!”

MD RADIO IS GOING DOWN THE TUBE............THROW SOME MORE MONEY IT THAT AND THE WEBSITE........
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Ron on May 24, 2007, 12:25:36 PM

Yes it does - a little.  We are all here to promote the sport, and think of the fans. Not break down with having the fans to choose exactly at the same time of the day one hour a week. 

Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Stark on May 24, 2007, 12:27:48 PM
It is beyond me why these guys cannot pull together, each of them swear they want to push Bodybuilding promote it the best way possible and than this ::)

What else would you expect from a bunch of guys that call themself the Muscle Mob ::)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Chick on May 24, 2007, 12:28:04 PM
Yes it does - a little.  We are all here to promote the sport, and think of the fans. Not break down with having the fans to choose exactly at the same time of the day one hour a week. 



I beleive the fans have already made their choice...Like a tree in the forrest, my friend..! ;D
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: Colossus_1986 on May 24, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
MD RADIO IS GOING DOWN THE TUBE............THROW SOME MORE MONEY IT THAT AND THE WEBSITE........

i never listened to a single episode...i saw the ship sinking from Day 1
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Lee_a_priest on May 24, 2007, 12:29:02 PM
It is beyond me why these guys cannot pull together, each of them swear they want to push Bodybuilding promote it the best way possible and than this ::)

What else would you expect from a bunch of guys that call themself the Muscle Mob ::)

ITS A SINKING SHIP.......THATS WHY I JUMPED OFF........:)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: jaejonna on May 24, 2007, 12:29:56 PM
ITS A SINKING SHIT.......THATS WHY I JUMPED OFF........:)
Are you saying the the PDI is a 'SAILING SHIP' Lee_a_Preist ?>
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2007, 12:32:36 PM
This is what Ryan Deluca gets for putting 100% of all bodybuilding.com's profits back into the website up until 2003.  Bodybuilding.com is a giant which will never be matched.

It would be like trying to beat myspace or youtube - you just can't.  And money can't buy it either.  Youtube came out of nowhere and has twice the traffic that myspace does which was a beast already around forever.  Some things you just can't replicate with money or effort.  For example, amazon.com tried the auction format and failed miserably, despite pouring millions of dollars into it.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Stark on May 24, 2007, 12:33:08 PM
What makes me laugh is the fact that you all act like you are super surprised :D :D

Come on guys anybody working for Flex MD or BB.com would gladly stab you in the back if they see an advantage for themself, this is business and there is money to be made, all that fake camaraderie is just fucking Bullshit and I want to puke blood when I see them all hugging each other and playing good friends and than later on stab each other in the back online ::)

Face it fellas most Pro Bodybuilders are blessed with good genetics but not much brain.

ITS A SINKING SHIP.......THATS WHY I JUMPED OFF........:)

That and the fact that you are an outspoken person made me believe a long time ago that you are defiantly not belong to the category of BB I just described above, the way you did that thing was questionable but you did damn good to leave leave the sinking ship.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Lift Studios on May 24, 2007, 12:36:43 PM
This is what Ryan Deluca gets for putting 100% of all bodybuilding.com's profits back into the website up until 2003.  Bodybuilding.com is a giant which will never be matched.

It would be like trying to beat myspace or youtube - you just can't.  And money can't buy it either.  Youtube came out of nowhere and has twice the traffic that myspace does which was a beast already around forever.  Some things you just can't replicate with money or effort.  For example, amazon.com tried the auction format and failed miserably, despite pouring millions of dollars into it.
What the heck does this have to do with the radio shows. Put down your pipe brudda.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: west coast willie on May 24, 2007, 12:37:19 PM
i know a fella who works close with Muscular Development. He said the mag is run like a circus.  With that radio program they keep tryin different ways to make it work. Aint nobody seems to listen to it.    
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Ron on May 24, 2007, 12:38:09 PM
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Flex MD or BB.com would gladly stab you in the back if they see an advantage for themself, this is business and there is money to be made,

Business is business, but bad PR isnt good either. After all, fans are fans, and this just seems not good for the fans. We do have a right to discuss and debate this.  How many bodybuilding radio shows are there? Two.


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He said the mag is run like a circus. 


Leave that crap out of this. They bring out an issue every month, and it is fine.  Stop bashing, stick to the topic and focus on the issue.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: 240 is Back on May 24, 2007, 12:40:53 PM
What the heck does this have to do with the radio shows. Put down your pipe brudda.

matt never misses an opportunity to invent a reason to interject the greatness that is BBing.com :)


And on his point - the great ones in the *real world* last for decades.  Online, not so much - yet.  Google can and proabbly will be outdone by an easier, cooler, more fun engine.  Ever seen that search engine where the hot girl talks to you while you search? (Anyone have the link? It's great).  Someone, somewhere will duplicate google's search algorhythm while at the same time giving you your NBA, hot girls, chess match, or whatever floats your boat.  And they will take over.  Same with their sister youtube - the class action suits for copyright infringement could crush them.  And it just takes one person with a good idea to outdo myspace and their lame friend layout system.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Stark on May 24, 2007, 12:43:52 PM
Business is business, but bad PR isnt good either. After all, fans are fans, and this just seems not good for the fans. We do have a right to discuss and debate this.  How many bodybuilding radio shows are there? Two.

You just prooved my point Ron, there are 2... only 2 Radio shows and these two shows (think how small they are, they maybe even call each other on the phone, I cannot imagine them having a studio) like 20 people cannot pull together to make this somewhat enjoyable ::)

It's childish and pathetic imho.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radios time space
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2007, 12:49:38 PM
What the heck does this have to do with the radio shows. Put down your pipe brudda.

Speaking of off topic: Isaac, remember when you said drugs should be prohibited?  Epic not realizing prohibition doesn't work.  ;D  Actually, it worked for Al Capone - and the thousands left dead in his wake.  It didn't work to actually stop alcohol related problems though.  :)  Hope this helps.

Here:

matt never misses an opportunity to invent a reason to interject the greatness that is BBing.com :)

Word!!!

MD is shooting themselves in the foot here.  I like MD, but bodybuilding.com pulled their ads with MD due to other issues and BB.com is not exactly an entity you want to be enemies with if you plan to be a part of the bodybuilding industry.  MD's radio show would do better if they tried to make friends with the PBW team.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Saxon on May 24, 2007, 12:51:17 PM
Good old competition.  Let the consumer choose their preferred product.  Both products will have to continue improving, innovating and whatever to keep the sponsors happy and keep the consumer listening.  There are benefits for the consumer in this.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: huge285 on May 24, 2007, 12:56:03 PM
Our show sucks anyway, so why do you care?

For your information, the 6pm time slot wasn't available.....so 8pm was all we had to work with.  We couldn't let this opportunity slip by. . .  over the last 3 weeks, our listening audience has skyrocketted.

Besides, people have the option to download the shows later and listen at their leisure.  What's the big deal?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: OneMoreRep on May 24, 2007, 12:56:17 PM
According to Muscular Development owner, Steve Blechman, “This new extended format gives us the perfect opportunity to have an open call-in segment.  For the first time in bodybuilding radio history, listeners will have a chance to interact with their idols, LIVE!  As we all know, listener interaction, ultimately, leads to a greater sense of community!”

Idols?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2007, 12:56:22 PM
Good old competition.  Let the consumer choose their preferred product.  Both products will have to continue improving, innovating and whatever to keep the sponsors happy and keep the consumer listening.  There are benefits for the consumer in this.

In theory yes.  But I think it is pretty well inevitable that PBW will be the preferred product.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2007, 12:58:03 PM
Our show sucks anyway, so why do you care?

For your information, the 6pm time slot wasn't available.....so 8pm was all we had to work with.  We couldn't let this opportunity slip by. . .  over the last 3 weeks, our listening audience has skyrocketted.

Besides, people have the option to download the shows later and listen at their leisure.  What's the big deal?

I think the concern is that MD did this intentionally.  This type of cutthroat business will probably hurt bodybuilding more than it will help.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: 240 is Back on May 24, 2007, 12:59:19 PM
over the last 3 weeks, our listening audience has skyrocketted.

To what do you attribute this recent jump in listenership, Dave?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 24, 2007, 01:00:28 PM
Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is broadcasted on over 62 FM and AM terrestial U.S. radio stations along with Sirius Satellite Radio, the Armed Forces Network (heard in over 170 countries), and online at BodybuildingRadio.com.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: swilkins1984 on May 24, 2007, 01:03:48 PM
I thought with Shawn as a PBW representative and former Weider athlete appearing on No Bull that some of the barriers between the shows were being taken down but I guess I was wrong.  
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 24, 2007, 01:04:36 PM
Our show sucks anyway, so why do you care?

For your information, the 6pm time slot wasn't available.....so 8pm was all we had to work with.  We couldn't let this opportunity slip by. . .  over the last 3 weeks, our listening audience has skyrocketted.

Besides, people have the option to download the shows later and listen at their leisure.  What's the big deal?



The problem is that it does interfere with PBW.  I actually like both but if I had a choice I'd rather listen to Bob Chick and Dan Soloman than Greg Valentino and John Romano.  And playing it at a later time isn't the same as live.  


BTW, hows the work with Billy Guns going, he's out 2 days so I'm sure he's taking his dieturics now.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Ron on May 24, 2007, 01:05:00 PM
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Besides, people have the option to download the shows later and listen at their leisure.  What's the big deal?

The big deal is that the fan base is small as it is, and splitting it up on a 'live' broadcast isnt cool. Yes, everyone can download it, but the perception is that this looked premeditated.  It is like having two football games on at the same time, with only two to choose from. Simple logic.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Spicy Shushi on May 24, 2007, 01:06:14 PM
Our show sucks anyway, so why do you care?
Finally Padumbo says something that makes sense.

This is an attempt to breathe life into a dying corpse.

Anyone else notice that titanic.com is redirecting to MuscularDevelopment.com?

Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Stark on May 24, 2007, 01:15:14 PM
Idols?

I was thinking the same thing lol, like hell do I idolize anybody, fans maybe but that's it.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: UK Gold on May 24, 2007, 01:24:53 PM
This blatant attempt to attack PBBW is disgusting, and it shows the mentality of the clowns behind MD. Chick has his faults [a vendetta against Dorian, a hatred of Milos, a very close 'friendship' with Shawn etc], but he is an excellent radio host that knows his subject and can speak with assurance and dignity. Compare that to Palumbo and his tranny banging, drug dealing pals. MD will lose this one, and i won't be at all surprised if the magazine eventually folds as well.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 24, 2007, 01:26:47 PM
which show is sean on...i'll switch to the other
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: best on May 24, 2007, 01:34:41 PM
Good old competition.  Let the consumer choose their preferred product.  Both products will have to continue improving, innovating and whatever to keep the sponsors happy and keep the consumer listening.  There are benefits for the consumer in this.



Solid post. 

But really, who is anyone kidding?  There has always been competition between the programs.  There is no getting around that.  Same day, different day, no matter.  To think otherwise is foolish. 

It's obvious that our show seems to draw the venom out of the people on this board.  That being the case, for those of you who wish to continue to focus on elaborate and ribald tales of the past, knock yourselves out.  You're obviously not interested in listening to the show anyway, so please don't. 

For anyone here who is smart enough to read between the lines of the posts that bash us, I invite you to give our extended and informative format a listen.  You'll find yourself pleasantly surprised. 


 :) 
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Jerome on May 24, 2007, 01:35:15 PM
Besides, people have the option to download the shows later and listen at their leisure.  What's the big deal?

I agree
I download both shows so that I skip the ads
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2007, 01:46:42 PM
I agree
I download both shows so that I skip the ads

Same here.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: west coast willie on May 24, 2007, 02:50:06 PM

 I invite you to give our extended and informative format a listen.  You'll find yourself pleasantly surprised. 

 :) 


sorry bro. i tried to listen to the MD show the other night. One of the hosts was ramblin about mexican women and some other bullsshit. I turned it off after like 5 minutes.  Thumbs way down.
 
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Blockhead on May 24, 2007, 03:15:09 PM

 "...listeners will have a chance to interact with their idols.."

 Ba ha ha ha ha!

 Bodybuilders aren't like other "Professional Athletes". They're as accessible as your next door neighborhood.

 "idols". Hahahahaha!
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: AVBG on May 24, 2007, 04:30:59 PM
I dont think its really a competition, even though MD would like us to think that it is.

They make claims about their listenership going up, but the reality is that when PBW airs each week, everyone is talking and discussing the content of the show.  On the other hand, you never hear anyone talking about No Bull Radio (except a few loyal MD supporters). 

Even when they had Shawn Ray on, it was like it never even happened.  No disrespect to MD, but they should really try to get the first hour right before they add another one.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: swilkins1984 on May 24, 2007, 04:47:44 PM
This blatant attempt to attack PBBW is disgusting, and it shows the mentality of the clowns behind MD. Chick has his faults [a vendetta against Dorian, a hatred of Milos, a very close 'friendship' with Shawn etc], but he is an excellent radio host that knows his subject and can speak with assurance and dignity. Compare that to Palumbo and his tranny banging, drug dealing pals. MD will lose this one, and i won't be at all surprised if the magazine eventually folds as well.

Huh? If Bob has a "vendetta" against Dorian because he thinks that Dorian may not have been the clear winner on each of those 6 wins then he has a vendetta with Ronnie, Haney, and Franco because each of them he has said could have been defeated on different occasions. As for Milos, it just seems like a heated debate but far from hatred.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 24, 2007, 06:52:33 PM
Again...

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is broadcasted on over 62 FM and AM terrestial U.S. radio stations along with Sirius Satellite Radio, the Armed Forces Network (heard in over 170 countries), and online at BodybuildingRadio.com.

Hope this helps! :D
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Spicy Shushi on May 24, 2007, 07:37:08 PM
Again...

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is broadcasted on over 62 FM and AM terrestial U.S. radio stations along with Sirius Satellite Radio, the Armed Forces Network (heard in over 170 countries), and online at BodybuildingRadio.com.

Hope this helps! :D
Go to bed kid.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Spicy Shushi on May 24, 2007, 07:59:41 PM


Solid post. 

But really, who is anyone kidding?  There has always been competition between the programs.  There is no getting around that.  Same day, different day, no matter.  To think otherwise is foolish. 

It's obvious that our show seems to draw the venom out of the people on this board.  That being the case, for those of you who wish to continue to focus on elaborate and ribald tales of the past, knock yourselves out.  You're obviously not interested in listening to the show anyway, so please don't. 

For anyone here who is smart enough to read between the lines of the posts that bash us, I invite you to give our extended and informative format a listen.  You'll find yourself pleasantly surprised. 

 :) 
Anyone who is smart enough knows no one listens to MD Radio. Why would you come on getbig to defend yourselves if you didn't care? MD is obessesed with Getbig and what is being said about them.

You sunk your own battleship before the battle began.

Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 24, 2007, 08:24:06 PM
Dave is a good guy and I honestly like the show, he does a good job imo. Not as good as Bob and Dan, but the shows are very different and I listen to them both every Monday. That being said, whatever lame brain came up with this idea obviously doesn't care about the real BBing fans. True, most readers of MD probably don't even log onto the site or listen to the show, but the hardcore BBing fans should be treated better than this. We know why they are doing this, and it is not helping the "Muscle Mob" from a PR standpoint.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 24, 2007, 08:30:38 PM




It's obvious that our show seems to draw the venom out of the people on this board.   

If it is so obvious, then why do you guys constantly spam Getbig? Ron stickey's Daves Threads about the MD show every week(or allows them to be stickeyed anyway), yet you guys at MD don't even allow your members to link to Getbig. Perhaps if you changed your policies and treated Ron(GB) as well as he treats you guys, there would not be as much venom?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:33:37 PM
The big deal is that the fan base is small as it is, and splitting it up on a 'live' broadcast isnt cool. Yes, everyone can download it, but the perception is that this looked premeditated.  It is like having two football games on at the same time, with only two to choose from. Simple logic.


Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan  ::)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 24, 2007, 08:38:33 PM
Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan  ::)

Rons business interests are of no business to you or anyone else. FFS, he lets you of all people speak your mind here, so maybe you should let him give his opinions and keep your stupid comments to yourself.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:38:41 PM
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yet you guys at MD don't even allow your members to link to Getbig.

False, as long as the post has content we are allowed to post a link to this site. For example...

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031 (http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 24, 2007, 08:41:24 PM
False, as long as the post has content we are allowed to post a link to this site. For example...

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031 (http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031)

None of them should be deleted. Ron is one cool mofo for letting the MD fellas promote on his site. If I were him, I wouldn't allow any BBing related spamming. But when you're on top, I guess the little guys don't scare you too much.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:41:53 PM
Rons business interests are of no business to you or anyone else. FFS, he lets you of all people speak your mind here, so maybe you should let him give his opinions and keep your stupid comments to yourself.

I have had threads deleted here and links to MD removed from my posts. Would the same have happen if I linked to Bodybuilding.com?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 24, 2007, 08:45:05 PM
I have had threads deleted here and links to MD removed from my posts. Would the same have happen if I linked to Bodybuilding.com?

How the fuck should I know?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: AVBG on May 24, 2007, 08:49:03 PM
Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan  ::)

Sioux, do you ever stay on topic?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Chick on May 24, 2007, 08:54:04 PM
I have had threads deleted here and links to MD removed from my posts. Would the same have happen if I linked to Bodybuilding.com?

BB.com is a sponsor of this site, Genius...
Title: Re: MD Radio attempts to take on PBW
Post by: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 08:54:41 PM
i never listened to a single episode...i saw the ship sinking from Day 1

You admit you never listened to an episode? You have nothing valid to say about the show, I'm sorry to say. You have admitted that your opinions are based on what, some sort of prescience? You "saw the ship sinking"?  ::)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 08:56:53 PM


The problem is that it does interfere with PBW.  I actually like both but if I had a choice I'd rather listen to Bob Chick and Dan Soloman than Greg Valentino and John Romano.  And playing it at a later time isn't the same as live. 


BTW, hows the work with Billy Guns going, he's out 2 days so I'm sure he's taking his dieturics now.

Valentino hasn't even been on the show for months...
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 24, 2007, 09:00:57 PM
Valentino hasn't even been on the show for months...

He wasn't good at all. He may be a nice guy, but he comes off as a moron on the air. Larry, however, is sorely missed imo.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2007, 09:02:06 PM
False, as long as the post has content we are allowed to post a link to this site. For example...

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031 (http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031)

I was linking to getbig like mad from my website, but what do the following posts have in common?

Don Youngblood: Masters Olympia Champ R.I.P:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=29696.0

Paul Demayo passes away!

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=31254.0
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Ron on May 24, 2007, 09:02:21 PM
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Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan

Interesting... First time someone has called me that.  I honestly thought I was on Getbig.com. Pay attention Souix. That being said, my relationship with bodybuilding.com is great, we have fun with videos and pictures, and they have no qualms about putting them up with Getbig on there. The guys there work hard, are very respectful, and are very cool.  And they don't censor what goes on here at all. I also don't have a problem calling Dave, or John, or Steve Blechman and asking them why they did this also.    

But again, you guys are not focusing here - this isnt about MD or bb.com or PBW.  The bodybuilding fans are what counts here, and it splits up the fans, forcing them to take sides. Especially if one wanted to listen to both shows. Yeah, you can download it, but come on. 168 hours in a week, two bodybuilding radio shows, same time.

As a business decision on MDs part, what it looks like is that they want to challenge PBW right now for the listeners. That is their business decision, they can do what they want to do in their strategy, but we can comment on it.  A greater plan to bring attention by forcing the issue, but was it necessary to do this move just when the MD Radio show was getting more serious, without all the antics.

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I have had threads deleted here



There is a difference betwen a news story and blatant spam. We all know the difference. MD Radio with guest is a news story. New pictures or issues are news stories.  Linking to any site just because to get attention is spam.  Simple as that.

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I was linking to getbig like mad from my website, but what do the following posts have in common?

I think sometimes I used to keep threads for only 3-6 months, but now I tend to keep them a little longer, over a year. They were purged during maintanence.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on May 24, 2007, 09:04:13 PM
I usually download the shows the next day...and listen to them at some time during the week.  So it's not really a problem for me if these two shows overlap.  

That said, I am ponderous as to why MD feels the need for another hour.  Maybe if they had an extremely good show I could see the show expanding, but as far as I can tell they're constantly tweaking with their formula.  Sometimes it's a brutal mess... Sound quality has been an issue for its entire run.  And even this week it was a bizarre show.  Shawn Ray rambled on for an ungodly time....It's like he was on blow.  They should skip the 2nd hour and just go head to head with PBW.

It's going to get ugly...but it's not like MD fired the first shot.  I think Peter McGough said on PBW that one of his goals was to drive MD out of business.  That was also the episode where Peter told Bob told Chick had a face made for radio.

Two hours is a lot of time.  Both shows should go for 90 minutes...and let the chips fall where they made.  I'd hate to see one of them go in the tank.  Chick, Dan, Palumbo & Romano all put out some decent shows.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 09:05:05 PM
People like Danielson and AVBG, who are critical of the show but respectful, have rescued this thread from being another typical anti-MD  slugfest. Props to Ron, Matt, Lift (and others) as well.

News of MD being a sinking ship, as one psychic has recently prophesied, is wholly untrue. Think of the competitors they've signed. Go through the recent Arnold Classic top 10... 
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 09:08:10 PM
I usually download the shows the next day...and listen to them at some time during the week.  So it's not really a problem for me if these two shows overlap. 

That said, I am ponderous as to why MD feels the need for another hour.  Maybe if they had an extremely good show I could see the show expanding, but as far as I can tell they're constantly tweaking with their formula.  Sometimes it's a brutal mess... Sound quality has been an issue for its entire run.  And even this week it was a bizarre show.  Shawn Ray rambled on for an ungodly time....It's like he was on blow.  They should skip the 2nd hour and just go head to head with PBW.

It's going to get ugly...but it's not like MD fired the first shot.  I think Peter McGough said on PBW that one of his goals was to drive MD out of business.  That was also the episode where Peter told Bob told Chick had a face made for radio.

Two hours is a lot of time.  Both shows should go for 90 minutes...and let the chips fall where they made.  I'd hate to see one of them go in the tank.  Chick, Dan, Palumbo & Romano all put out some decent shows.

Excellent post. And yes, sound quality has been consistently problematic--I'm not sure why they can't fix that. I listen to Webcasts made with basically zero budget that sound 10x better.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 09:09:57 PM
BB.com is a sponsor of this site, Genius...

You must be scared that you'll lose listeners. Otherwise you wouldn't bother to tussle with us nameless rubes on the Internet.  ;D
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 09:15:35 PM
He wasn't good at all. He may be a nice guy, but he comes off as a moron on the air. Larry, however, is sorely missed imo.

Larry was the MAN. He definitely is missed.

If Larry were still a part of the show, and allowed to exercise some measure of control over its direction, do you think it would be more successful?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 24, 2007, 09:21:32 PM
Larry was the MAN. He definitely is missed.

If Larry were still a part of the show, and allowed to exercise some measure of control over its direction, do you think it would be more successful?

For sure. However, they alienated quite a bit of viewers off the bat with Greggs BS and other things. For instance, to promote a message board fight and have two "online handles" on the air to hype it and then not go through with it was pretty bad. It has gotten better though in the past few weeks, too bad they couldn't have figured out that comedy wasn't as easy as they thought it was from the get. I think the best thing for them now is to keep the show about the guests, and if they can get good ones like they have been, then they have a shot. But better than PBW? no way.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2007, 09:29:22 PM
I think sometimes I used to keep threads for only 3-6 months, but now I tend to keep them a little longer, over a year. They were purged during maintanence.

I assume you also delete some things for legal reasons, which is understandable.  I'm trying to keep archives here:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24

You deleted some very good and controversial threads!  Whether by accident or on purpose I don't know.  The whole board hack a few years ago was a bit weird to me.  I don't see how someone can hack this bulletin board software.  If only I could keep up better with the archiving, I would be able to save more of the threads which go on to later get deleted off getbig.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: scribbler on May 24, 2007, 10:00:10 PM
I usually download the shows the next day...and listen to them at some time during the week.  So it's not really a problem for me if these two shows overlap. 

That said, I am ponderous as to why MD feels the need for another hour.  Maybe if they had an extremely good show I could see the show expanding, but as far as I can tell they're constantly tweaking with their formula.  Sometimes it's a brutal mess... Sound quality has been an issue for its entire run.  And even this week it was a bizarre show.  Shawn Ray rambled on for an ungodly time....It's like he was on blow.  They should skip the 2nd hour and just go head to head with PBW.

It's going to get ugly...but it's not like MD fired the first shot.  I think Peter McGough said on PBW that one of his goals was to drive MD out of business.  That was also the episode where Peter told Bob told Chick had a face made for radio.

Two hours is a lot of time.  Both shows should go for 90 minutes...and let the chips fall where they made.  I'd hate to see one of them go in the tank.  Chick, Dan, Palumbo & Romano all put out some decent shows.

That is absolute BS. Peter has never said anything of the sort, and we make a consistent effort never to mention any of the competition one way or the other. They do their thing, and we do ours...and that's it.

This whole magazine war issue is dead...let's leave it that way and move on

C
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: huge285 on May 24, 2007, 10:41:00 PM
Debate is great.  The bottom line is that John and I wanted the freedom to explore nutrition and supplement segments (my specialty) and we needed the extra time to do so.  I think the fans will be happy with the extra information that is being provided.  After all, the bodybuilding radio shows are not for the hosts, or the website owners; they're for the fans.  And as a fan myself, I personally want as much information as possible. 
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Rampage on May 24, 2007, 11:10:12 PM
i would like to start by saying i told u so.i knewww from day 1 that MD was going to turn this into a rivalry.remember when martinez was supposd to be on pbw?im pretty sure MD pulled him last second,bob can help here.i know hes anMD athlete,but if they continue having Just THEIR OWN athletes on,its boriiin! How many times has dex,branch,vic and flex been on!?!

 Secondly,bob,if u think the rogue tactics are over frm MDs side,think again.wait till the last few mins of their 1st hour just b4 pbw starts,i GUARENTEE u that this will be their best segment so that ppl wont switch over to pbw

Eeeverything im BB can be directly compared with wrestling bob,if u realy look at it.almost eerie the similarities.this is wwe vs wcw all ova again
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: huge285 on May 25, 2007, 12:09:21 AM
Why is it that people love to shout "conspiracy" every time someone comes out with a new idea?  Can't it just be what it is?  Like I said earlier, our show sucks anyway so I'm sure this won't affect anyone's Monday night.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 25, 2007, 12:41:32 AM

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is broadcasted on over 62 FM and AM terrestial U.S. radio stations along with Sirius Satellite Radio, the Armed Forces Network (heard in over 170 countries), and online at BodybuildingRadio.com.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: best on May 25, 2007, 08:20:49 AM
Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is broadcasted on over 62 FM and AM terrestial U.S. radio stations along with Sirius Satellite Radio, the Armed Forces Network (heard in over 170 countries), and online at BodybuildingRadio.com.

Hope this helps!



I honestly think that is awesome.  You really have to tip your cap to Dan and Bob for getting the show onto so many networks and the way they are pushing to get the bodybuilding message out to the masses.  It's great for the industry and thus all of us who are a part of it.  :)


For now we're holding it down online with MD No Bull Radio aired live Monday evenings from 7 - 9 PM Eastern, streamed directly from our website of course, and also on Voice America...The world leader in internet radio, with the largest network of Internet Talk Radio stations, anywhere.   8)

Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: UK Gold on May 25, 2007, 08:36:25 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: danielson on May 25, 2007, 08:37:28 AM


I honestly think that is awesome.  You really have to tip your cap to Dan and Bob for getting the show onto so many networks and the way they are pushing to get the bodybuilding message out to the masses.  It's great for the industry and thus all of us who are a part of it.  :)


For now we're holding it down online with MD No Bull Radio aired live Monday evenings from 7 - 9 PM Eastern, streamed directly from our website of course, and also on Voice America...The world leader in internet radio, with the largest network of Internet Talk Radio stations, anywhere.   8)



Will you be giving out any free T shirts over here today Best?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: efirkey on May 25, 2007, 09:00:26 AM
Good old competition.  Let the consumer choose their preferred product.  Both products will have to continue improving, innovating and whatever to keep the sponsors happy and keep the consumer listening.  There are benefits for the consumer in this.

True...wrestling was way more entertaining when the wwf (wwe) was competing directly against the wcw on monday nights.  When you didn't like what was happening on WWE you turned on WCW, but you were still watching wrestling and still were a fan of wrestling.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 25, 2007, 09:09:51 AM
True...wrestling was way more entertaining when the wwf (wwe) was competing directly against the wcw on monday nights.  When you didn't like what was happening on WWE you turned on WCW, but you were still watching wrestling and still were a fan of wrestling.

sorry jumbo but you lost me listener when you messaged on Getbig something about not feeling empathy for victims of scams
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Option D on May 25, 2007, 09:13:05 AM
Why is it that people love to shout "conspiracy" every time someone comes out with a new idea?  Can't it just be what it is?  Like I said earlier, our show sucks anyway so I'm sure this won't affect anyone's Monday night.

Trying to listen to the "MUSCLE MOB"  ::) (oh brother) is like nails on a chalk board for me...the only reason i listen to it is the guests and even they suck from time to time. PBW keeps me entertained from begining to end except for the freakin muscletech spots....

but yeah it was a low blow and you know it dave...you are the last one with any administration authority that i respect over there but this wasa punk ass move cha cha. To sit and tell me you cant see the negaive effect of this is horse shit...not only do you split fans...the guests will have scheduling conflicts because of it too...nothing good comes of this. ....
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: punk_rockerX on May 25, 2007, 09:16:57 AM
perfect... more time for sad-ass valentino to talk about trany sex. ::)
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Nuge on May 25, 2007, 09:42:17 AM
perfect... more time for sad-ass valentino to talk about trany sex. ::)

Valentino hasn't been on the show for a long time, and will not be back, as far as I know.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Biggunzzz on May 25, 2007, 09:50:58 AM
these guys have no idea what they are doing, what happened to the porn = bodybuilding debate??? oh yeah, they caught so much heat they did away with it.

but can they really screen all the getbiggers that will call and slam the show and give derek anthony shout outs???? ???
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: huge285 on May 25, 2007, 10:52:23 AM
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Quote from: efirkey on Today at 09:00:26 AM
True...wrestling was way more entertaining when the wwf (wwe) was competing directly against the wcw on monday nights.  When you didn't like what was happening on WWE you turned on WCW, but you were still watching wrestling and still were a fan of wrestling.


sorry jumbo but you lost me listener when you messaged on Getbig something about not feeling empathy for victims of scams
 
 
What are you taking about?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Option D on May 25, 2007, 10:54:30 AM
DAMN IT....WHOS Foolin with my posts.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: 240 is Back on May 25, 2007, 11:02:04 AM
DAMN IT....WHOS Foolin with my posts.

your post was altered?  in what way?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Option D on May 25, 2007, 12:13:50 PM
your post was altered?  in what way?

only because i posted a pic of the owner of MD...it isnt a lie..this "guy" :-\ is the owner

Title: Will PBW respond?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 25, 2007, 01:35:49 PM
Let's hear from Dan and Bob - How do you guys feel about the new head-to-head time slot move by MD?
Title: Re: Radio Wars II - PBW fires back
Post by: gordiano on May 25, 2007, 01:36:48 PM
Attention whore..... ;D
Title: Re: Radio Wars II - PBW fires back
Post by: Bluto on May 25, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
240 is the #1 gossip whore
Title: Re: Will PBW respond?
Post by: Dan Solomon on May 25, 2007, 05:37:20 PM
Let's hear from Dan and Bob - How do you guys feel about the new head-to-head time slot move by MD?

Since we launched PBW back in 2005, we’ve remained committed to ONE format, ONE style, ONE time slot and TWO hosts.  We’ve avoided any need to make “knee-jerk” changes.  It would have been VERY easy for us to expand PBW to a 2 hour format (or to simply start one hour earlier).  In the end, we felt that such a move would alienate MD as they were trying to get their own thing off the ground. --  I have to admit, it's been very "interesting" to watch the other team re-invent their approach on a monthly basis.  But, I won’t judge them for it. 

The popularity of PBW has a lot to do with an expanded promotional network:  Muscle  & Fitness and Flex Magazine (Bodybuilding’s Top 2 Circulations) have been very kind to us.  – Bodybuilding.com (the #1 ranked industry website) drives thousands of daily listeners to PBW.  We also enjoy support from the other magazines (Ironman, MuscleMag, etc…) as well as bodybuilding’s most popular message board (GetBig) and several online partners like MuscleMayhem.com, FlexOnline.com, MrOlympia.com, IronAge, MuscleTech.com, JayCutler.com, MuscleTime.com, among others.

PBW’s audience extends far beyond the internet.  The show is tied into several syndication deals, expanding our reach to a growing list of AM radio stations throughout the U.S. and Virgin Islands, along with the 170 global stations that comprise the Armed Forces Radio network. It gives us great satisfaction to know that the troops in the field are able to enjoy a weekly serving of bodybuilding radio. 

As we move forward, we will continue to make tactical decisions that truly benefit the fans.  As we’ve all learned, actions speak louder than words….and the numbers don’t lie.  In this case, the numbers (and your feedback) speak VERY loud…and we are grateful for it.  Let’s end this post with a quote from a friend…and a loyal listener:

“The direction that Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is going so far has boded extremely well for our community. And, as more and more of us tune in, it becomes more powerful.”  – John Romano, Muscular Development Magazine

Enjoy the holiday weekend everybody…
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 25, 2007, 05:52:10 PM
Our show sucks anyway


I applaud your honesty, Dave!  ;D
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 25, 2007, 06:03:49 PM
He wasn't good at all. He may be a nice guy, but he comes off as a moron on the air. Larry, however, is sorely missed imo.

MD jumped the shark when Larry left...  he was the show's only redeeming quality.  Bob & Dan should consider inviting him on as a guest-host occasionally.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: west coast willie on May 25, 2007, 06:06:12 PM
good post Dan. Just keep doin your thing and keep it positive.  When you gonna get Lee Haney on PBW. The greatest of all time!
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: efirkey on May 25, 2007, 06:18:38 PM
sorry jumbo but you lost me listener when you messaged on Getbig something about not feeling empathy for victims of scams

what?
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: 240 is Back on May 25, 2007, 11:56:26 PM
“The direction that Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is going so far has boded extremely well for our community. And, as more and more of us tune in, it becomes more powerful.   ---  John Romano, Muscular Development Magazine

Props to Romano for his honesty.  Props to both stations for doing their thing to grow the sport. 
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: Matt C on May 26, 2007, 12:02:45 AM
Bodybuilding.com is unstoppable at this point in time.  That's what you get for being in the right place at the right time and working extremely hard by reinvesting back into the business model.  Had it been another place or time, hard work wouldn't have gotten it where it is today.  It is a combination of both luck and great effort that made it what it is.  No one can compete with it now.  Unless the youtube of bodybuilding comes along.
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 26, 2007, 12:59:11 AM
good post Dan. Just keep doin your thing and keep it positive.  When you gonna get Lee Haney on PBW. The greatest of all time!

Lee "Milk still on his breath" Haney has already been on PBW...

The archive can be found at http://www.BodybuildingRadio.com
Title: Re: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space
Post by: youandme on May 26, 2007, 08:08:49 AM
Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan  ::)

yeah ok that's why Ron makes moves to unite not divide  ::) pull your head out of your ass or rottweiler's for that matter.