Author Topic: MD Radio 2 Hours - going into PBW Radio's time space (Read 10450 times)

danielson · « **Reply #50 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:38:33 PM »

Quote from: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:33:37 PM

Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan

Rons business interests are of no business to you or anyone else. FFS, he lets you of all people speak your mind here, so maybe you should let him give his opinions and keep your stupid comments to yourself.

siouxcountry · « **Reply #51 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:38:41 PM »

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yet you guys at MD don't even allow your members to link to Getbig.

False, as long as the post has content we are allowed to post a link to this site. For example...

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031

danielson · « **Reply #52 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:41:24 PM »

Quote from: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:38:41 PM

False, as long as the post has content we are allowed to post a link to this site. For example...

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031

None of them should be deleted. Ron is one cool mofo for letting the MD fellas promote on his site. If I were him, I wouldn't allow any BBing related spamming. But when you're on top, I guess the little guys don't scare you too much.

siouxcountry · « **Reply #53 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:41:53 PM »

Quote from: danielson on May 24, 2007, 08:38:33 PM

Rons business interests are of no business to you or anyone else. FFS, he lets you of all people speak your mind here, so maybe you should let him give his opinions and keep your stupid comments to yourself.

I have had threads deleted here and links to MD removed from my posts. Would the same have happen if I linked to Bodybuilding.com?

danielson · « **Reply #54 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:45:05 PM »

Quote from: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:41:53 PM

I have had threads deleted here and links to MD removed from my posts. Would the same have happen if I linked to Bodybuilding.com?

How the fuck should I know?

AVBG · « **Reply #55 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:49:03 PM »

Quote from: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:33:37 PM

Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan

Sioux, do you ever stay on topic?

Chick · « **Reply #56 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:54:04 PM »

Quote from: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:41:53 PM

I have had threads deleted here and links to MD removed from my posts. Would the same have happen if I linked to Bodybuilding.com?

BB.com is a sponsor of this site, Genius...

Nuge · « **Reply #57 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:54:41 PM »

Quote from: Colossus_1986 on May 24, 2007, 12:28:39 PM

i never listened to a single episode...i saw the ship sinking from Day 1

You admit you never listened to an episode? You have nothing valid to say about the show, I'm sorry to say. You have admitted that your opinions are based on what, some sort of prescience? You "saw the ship sinking"?

Nuge · « **Reply #58 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:56:53 PM »

Quote from: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 24, 2007, 01:04:36 PM

The problem is that it does interfere with PBW. I actually like both but if I had a choice I'd rather listen to Bob Chick and Dan Soloman than Greg Valentino and John Romano. And playing it at a later time isn't the same as live.

BTW, hows the work with Billy Guns going, he's out 2 days so I'm sure he's taking his dieturics now.

Valentino hasn't even been on the show for months...

danielson · « **Reply #59 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:00:57 PM »

Quote from: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 08:56:53 PM

Valentino hasn't even been on the show for months...

He wasn't good at all. He may be a nice guy, but he comes off as a moron on the air. Larry, however, is sorely missed imo.

Matt C · « **Reply #60 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:02:06 PM »

Quote from: siouxcountry on May 24, 2007, 08:38:41 PM

False, as long as the post has content we are allowed to post a link to this site. For example...

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=8031

I was linking to getbig like mad from my website, but what do the following posts have in common?

Don Youngblood: Masters Olympia Champ R.I.P:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=29696.0

Paul Demayo passes away!

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=31254.0

Ron · « **Reply #61 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:02:21 PM »

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Ron "bodybuilding.com" Avidan

Interesting... First time someone has called me that. I honestly thought I was on Getbig.com. Pay attention Souix. That being said, my relationship with bodybuilding.com is great, we have fun with videos and pictures, and they have no qualms about putting them up with Getbig on there. The guys there work hard, are very respectful, and are very cool. And they don't censor what goes on here at all. I also don't have a problem calling Dave, or John, or Steve Blechman and asking them why they did this also.

But again, you guys are not focusing here - this isnt about MD or bb.com or PBW. The bodybuilding fans are what counts here, and it splits up the fans, forcing them to take sides. Especially if one wanted to listen to both shows. Yeah, you can download it, but come on. 168 hours in a week, two bodybuilding radio shows, same time.

As a business decision on MDs part, what it looks like is that they want to challenge PBW right now for the listeners. That is their business decision, they can do what they want to do in their strategy, but we can comment on it. A greater plan to bring attention by forcing the issue, but was it necessary to do this move just when the MD Radio show was getting more serious, without all the antics.

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I have had threads deleted here

There is a difference betwen a news story and blatant spam. We all know the difference. MD Radio with guest is a news story. New pictures or issues are news stories. Linking to any site just because to get attention is spam. Simple as that.

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I was linking to getbig like mad from my website, but what do the following posts have in common?

I think sometimes I used to keep threads for only 3-6 months, but now I tend to keep them a little longer, over a year. They were purged during maintanence.

Benito Mutumbo · « **Reply #62 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:04:13 PM »

I usually download the shows the next day...and listen to them at some time during the week. So it's not really a problem for me if these two shows overlap.

That said, I am ponderous as to why MD feels the need for another hour. Maybe if they had an extremely good show I could see the show expanding, but as far as I can tell they're constantly tweaking with their formula. Sometimes it's a brutal mess... Sound quality has been an issue for its entire run. And even this week it was a bizarre show. Shawn Ray rambled on for an ungodly time....It's like he was on blow. They should skip the 2nd hour and just go head to head with PBW.

It's going to get ugly...but it's not like MD fired the first shot. I think Peter McGough said on PBW that one of his goals was to drive MD out of business. That was also the episode where Peter told Bob told Chick had a face made for radio.

Two hours is a lot of time. Both shows should go for 90 minutes...and let the chips fall where they made. I'd hate to see one of them go in the tank. Chick, Dan, Palumbo & Romano all put out some decent shows.

Nuge · « **Reply #63 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:05:05 PM »

People like Danielson and AVBG, who are critical of the show but respectful, have rescued this thread from being another typical anti-MD slugfest. Props to Ron, Matt, Lift (and others) as well.

News of MD being a sinking ship, as one psychic has recently prophesied, is wholly untrue. Think of the competitors they've signed. Go through the recent Arnold Classic top 10...

Nuge · « **Reply #64 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:08:10 PM »

Quote from: Benito Mutumbo on May 24, 2007, 09:04:13 PM

I usually download the shows the next day...and listen to them at some time during the week. So it's not really a problem for me if these two shows overlap.

That said, I am ponderous as to why MD feels the need for another hour. Maybe if they had an extremely good show I could see the show expanding, but as far as I can tell they're constantly tweaking with their formula. Sometimes it's a brutal mess... Sound quality has been an issue for its entire run. And even this week it was a bizarre show. Shawn Ray rambled on for an ungodly time....It's like he was on blow. They should skip the 2nd hour and just go head to head with PBW.

It's going to get ugly...but it's not like MD fired the first shot. I think Peter McGough said on PBW that one of his goals was to drive MD out of business. That was also the episode where Peter told Bob told Chick had a face made for radio.

Two hours is a lot of time. Both shows should go for 90 minutes...and let the chips fall where they made. I'd hate to see one of them go in the tank. Chick, Dan, Palumbo & Romano all put out some decent shows.

Excellent post. And yes, sound quality has been consistently problematic--I'm not sure why they can't fix that. I listen to Webcasts made with basically zero budget that sound 10x better.

Nuge · « **Reply #65 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:09:57 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 24, 2007, 08:54:04 PM

BB.com is a sponsor of this site, Genius...

You must be scared that you'll lose listeners. Otherwise you wouldn't bother to tussle with us nameless rubes on the Internet.

Nuge · « **Reply #66 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:15:35 PM »

Quote from: danielson on May 24, 2007, 09:00:57 PM

He wasn't good at all. He may be a nice guy, but he comes off as a moron on the air. Larry, however, is sorely missed imo.

Larry was the MAN. He definitely is missed.

If Larry were still a part of the show, and allowed to exercise some measure of control over its direction, do you think it would be more successful?

danielson · « **Reply #67 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:21:32 PM »

Quote from: Nuge on May 24, 2007, 09:15:35 PM

Larry was the MAN. He definitely is missed.

If Larry were still a part of the show, and allowed to exercise some measure of control over its direction, do you think it would be more successful?

For sure. However, they alienated quite a bit of viewers off the bat with Greggs BS and other things. For instance, to promote a message board fight and have two "online handles" on the air to hype it and then not go through with it was pretty bad. It has gotten better though in the past few weeks, too bad they couldn't have figured out that comedy wasn't as easy as they thought it was from the get. I think the best thing for them now is to keep the show about the guests, and if they can get good ones like they have been, then they have a shot. But better than PBW? no way.

Matt C · « **Reply #68 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:29:22 PM »

Quote from: Ron on May 24, 2007, 09:02:21 PM

I think sometimes I used to keep threads for only 3-6 months, but now I tend to keep them a little longer, over a year. They were purged during maintanence.

I assume you also delete some things for legal reasons, which is understandable. I'm trying to keep archives here:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24

You deleted some very good and controversial threads! Whether by accident or on purpose I don't know. The whole board hack a few years ago was a bit weird to me. I don't see how someone can hack this bulletin board software. If only I could keep up better with the archiving, I would be able to save more of the threads which go on to later get deleted off getbig.

scribbler · « **Reply #69 on:** May 24, 2007, 10:00:10 PM »

Quote from: Benito Mutumbo on May 24, 2007, 09:04:13 PM

I usually download the shows the next day...and listen to them at some time during the week. So it's not really a problem for me if these two shows overlap.

That said, I am ponderous as to why MD feels the need for another hour. Maybe if they had an extremely good show I could see the show expanding, but as far as I can tell they're constantly tweaking with their formula. Sometimes it's a brutal mess... Sound quality has been an issue for its entire run. And even this week it was a bizarre show. Shawn Ray rambled on for an ungodly time....It's like he was on blow. They should skip the 2nd hour and just go head to head with PBW.

It's going to get ugly...but it's not like MD fired the first shot. I think Peter McGough said on PBW that one of his goals was to drive MD out of business. That was also the episode where Peter told Bob told Chick had a face made for radio.

Two hours is a lot of time. Both shows should go for 90 minutes...and let the chips fall where they made. I'd hate to see one of them go in the tank. Chick, Dan, Palumbo & Romano all put out some decent shows.

That is absolute BS. Peter has never said anything of the sort, and we make a consistent effort never to mention any of the competition one way or the other. They do their thing, and we do ours...and that's it.

This whole magazine war issue is dead...let's leave it that way and move on

C

huge285 · « **Reply #70 on:** May 24, 2007, 10:41:00 PM »

Debate is great. The bottom line is that John and I wanted the freedom to explore nutrition and supplement segments (my specialty) and we needed the extra time to do so. I think the fans will be happy with the extra information that is being provided. After all, the bodybuilding radio shows are not for the hosts, or the website owners; they're for the fans. And as a fan myself, I personally want as much information as possible.

Rampage · « **Reply #71 on:** May 24, 2007, 11:10:12 PM »

i would like to start by saying i told u so.i knewww from day 1 that MD was going to turn this into a rivalry.remember when martinez was supposd to be on pbw?im pretty sure MD pulled him last second,bob can help here.i know hes anMD athlete,but if they continue having Just THEIR OWN athletes on,its boriiin! How many times has dex,branch,vic and flex been on!?!

Secondly,bob,if u think the rogue tactics are over frm MDs side,think again.wait till the last few mins of their 1st hour just b4 pbw starts,i GUARENTEE u that this will be their best segment so that ppl wont switch over to pbw

Eeeverything im BB can be directly compared with wrestling bob,if u realy look at it.almost eerie the similarities.this is wwe vs wcw all ova again

huge285 · « **Reply #72 on:** May 25, 2007, 12:09:21 AM »

Why is it that people love to shout "conspiracy" every time someone comes out with a new idea? Can't it just be what it is? Like I said earlier, our show sucks anyway so I'm sure this won't affect anyone's Monday night.

thisiskeith12 · « **Reply #73 on:** May 25, 2007, 12:41:32 AM »

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is broadcasted on over 62 FM and AM terrestial U.S. radio stations along with Sirius Satellite Radio, the Armed Forces Network (heard in over 170 countries), and online at BodybuildingRadio.com.

Hope this helps!

best · « **Reply #74 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:20:49 AM »

Quote from: thisiskeith12 on May 25, 2007, 12:41:32 AM

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly is broadcasted on over 62 FM and AM terrestial U.S. radio stations along with Sirius Satellite Radio, the Armed Forces Network (heard in over 170 countries), and online at BodybuildingRadio.com.

Hope this helps!

I honestly think that is awesome. You really have to tip your cap to Dan and Bob for getting the show onto so many networks and the way they are pushing to get the bodybuilding message out to the masses. It's great for the industry and thus all of us who are a part of it.

For now we're holding it down online with MD No Bull Radio aired live Monday evenings from 7 - 9 PM Eastern, streamed directly from our website of course, and also on Voice America...The world leader in internet radio, with the largest network of Internet Talk Radio stations, anywhere.