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More babies killed today than all military deaths in the Iraq war to date...
Is it true a woman hung her babies in Texas this morning?
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typical bible thumper values..
more babies died of random causes all over America so its ok for us to kill a few ten thousand in iraq..
please go to iraq and get yerself offed..or at least get yer tubes tied before ya spread yer legs..
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typical bible thumper values..
more babies died of random causes all over America so its ok for us to kill a few ten thousand in iraq..
please go to iraq and get yerself offed..or at least get yer tubes tied before ya spread yer legs..
Who gives a shit about iraqis? There's nothing you can do so stop speaking out of blind anger towards the side that you are on.
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28,000 died in car accidents last year............8 times more than killed in 9/11 yet we won;t spend 400 billion to build safer cars?
The thing is, those soldiers have friends relative and in many cases children looking up to them and now they are gone.
WHY? Was it for freedom? Or was it for greed? Or was it just a BIG mistake to begin with?
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28,000 died in car accidents last year............8 times more than killed in 9/11 yet we won;t spend 400 billion to build safer cars?
The thing is, those soldiers have friends relative and in many cases children looking up to them and now they are gone.
WHY? Was it for freedom? Or was it for greed? Or was it just a BIG mistake to begin with?
what does that have to do with killing 3600 babies a day?
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what does that have to do with killing 3600 babies a day?
exactly!
Just like comparing baby deaths to Iraq war deaths.
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exactly!
Just like comparing baby deaths to Iraq war deaths.
the comparison comes in the way that liberals cry foul over every death of a soldier yet could care less how moany babies are killed.....little odd to me
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the comparison comes in the way that liberals cry foul over every death of a soldier yet could care less how moany babies are killed.....little odd to me
and by the same token, my comparison was based on the out cry and resulting 400 billions spent from the 300 deaths on 9/11 int eh face of 28,000 dying every year from accidents and ads that to the 15,000 murdered victims...etc.... How many fo those deaths could we stop with 400 billion?
I think you have a good point but, these are unborn babies compared to living people who's death is felt by many in their circle of friends and relatives.
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greed?
there ya have it..
its the American version of terrorism....jesus told me to do it..so i did..
in islam ya call that jihad..
eventually someone makes a lot of $
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How many Iraqi babies have been killed by U.S. soldiers who invaded their country? Don't those babies matter equally? Have many Iraqi babies parents were killed by U.S. soldiers who invaded their country?
I know the rascist, nationalistic fascists here don't give a shit.
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How many Iraqi babies have been killed by U.S. soldiers who invaded their country? Don't those babies matter equally? Have many Iraqi babies parents were killed by U.S. soldiers who invaded their country?
VEry valid points.
All points to the fact: War should be avoided at all costs and used as a last resort.
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How many Iraqi babies have been killed by U.S. soldiers who invaded their country? Don't those babies matter equally? Have many Iraqi babies parents were killed by U.S. soldiers who invaded their country?
I know the rascist, nationalistic fascists here don't give a shit.
I give a shit...
the comparison comes in the way that liberals cry foul over every death of a soldier yet could care less how moany babies are killed.....little odd to me
That's a broad statement you're making there... one which is very unfounded.
I bet there are just as many "republicans" who get abortions as democrats...
Please someone show me how the people getting the abortions are divided by party lines.
I doubt anyone can find that comparison anywhere.
Your statement is completely made up.
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All true....as a copnservative this question is not something i get into...way more important things facing us at this point. Hey LSD..what government hand-outs have u benefited from...Stafford loans...welfare..tax refunds//etc... I think u should give em back since u hate our horrible facist state.
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I think u should give em back since u hate our horrible facist state.
If I was like you and supported our horrible fascist state, could I keep them?!
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I'm a productive member of society and I have repayable school loans..plus I'm taxed to the hilt. I do enough to make sure ur safe and warm and tucked in tight at night.
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I do enough to make sure ur safe and warm and tucked in tight at night.
That's the myth they want you to believe. U.S. soldiers are not keeping U.S. citizens safe. They are creating enemies in the world through our imperialistic foreign policy.
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I do what I'm told....killing rags ensures u don't glow..whatever other reason for this war..the more that flock to Iraq..the last chance of some nutbag doing some shit here to u...they hate us all evenly but its easier there then here to get at us. We sent plenty to meet Muhammed that would otherwise have been plotting nasty stuff for u and yours.
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I do what I'm told....killing rags ensures u don't glow..
Coincidentally, I had just posted in another thread your repeated demonstrations dehumanizing Iraqis. I realize soldiers have a hard time accepting the fact that they are killing human beings, so they traditionally dehumanize them with slurs. A good part of PTSD comes on when soldiers mature as humans and realize what they've done to other humans.
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I give a shit...
That's a broad statement you're making there... one which is very unfounded.
I bet there are just as many "republicans" who get abortions as democrats...
Please someone show me how the people getting the abortions are divided by party lines.
I doubt anyone can find that comparison anywhere.
Your statement is completely made up.
I didn't say only liberals get abortions, but the liberals are the ones crying about the soldier deaths, not conservatives, and the liberals are also the ones that want to keep killing babies, not conservatives. True conservatives don't get abortions
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the liberals are also the ones that want to keep killing babies,
Abortions don't kill babies, soldiers kill babies.
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Abortions don't kill babies, soldiers kill babies.
I would like to see a fact from you (not that you know what that is) that shows the number of civilian deaths in Iraq attributed to american soldiers, as opposed to the number of deaths associated with insurgent suicide bombers.
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I would like to see a fact from you (not that you know what that is) that shows the number of civilian deaths in Iraq attributed to american soldiers, as opposed to the number of deaths associated with insurgent suicide bombers.
Why do you care about a number? Do you have any compassion for the Iraqi people? The U.S. government and corporate media don't want you to care about Iraqi civilians. I have a hard time believing that you would care without getting an order to do so.
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Why do you care about a number? Do you have any compassion for the Iraqi people? The U.S. government and corporate media don't want you to care about Iraqi civilians. I have a hard time believing that you would care without getting an order to do so.
That is because you didn't see me in Iraq restoring their roads, water supplies, electricity....didn't see me giving my MREs to the kids...tossing a football with them. I do care and only want the Iraqis to have what we have but just like we had to lose thousand of people during the revolution to get where we are they will have to also. What I didn't see was american soldiers intentionally targeting civilians.
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but just like we had to lose thousand of people during the revolution to get where we are they will have to also.
They have to lose thousands of people for our revolution in their country. How's that "democracy at gunpoint" thing working out?
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They have to lose thousands of people for our revolution in their country. How's that "democracy at gunpoint" thing working out?
they clearly couldn't do it on their own...don't get me wrong, we need peace there as bad as they do, we definately have personal interest.
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they clearly couldn't do it on their own...don't get me wrong, we need peace there as bad as they do, we definately have personal interest.
Perhaps they "couldn't do it on their own" because the objective and subjective conditions were not ready. Perhaps the recognition of a civil war between factions kept Iraqi people from banding together against tyranny. Perhaps the U.S. doesn't give a shit about what happens to them because of our personal (financial) interests.
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Perhaps they "couldn't do it on their own" because the objective and subjective conditions were not ready. Perhaps the recognition of a civil war between factions kept Iraqi people from banding together against tyranny. Perhaps the U.S. doesn't give a shit about what happens to them because of our personal (financial) interests.
of course we are looking out for #1, but in the end they will we have to have peace there and they will benefit from it....all good in the end
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of course we are looking out for #1, but in the end they will we have to have peace there and they will benefit from it....all good in the end
We are not "#1." That's just our imperialist rationalization that we use to harm people in other countries.
What evidence do you have that their will be peace in the end? How many people have to die? Why should U.S. soldiers create conditions for Iraqis to die in the (secondary) hope that it leads to peace?
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We are not "#1." That's just our imperialist rationalization that we use to harm people in other countries.
What evidence do you have that their will be peace in the end? How many people have to die? Why should U.S. soldiers create conditions for Iraqis to die in the (secondary) hope that it leads to peace?
We aren't #1? then why has no one stopped us? What evidence do you have that their won't be peace in the end? I have history on my side (Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea...) Why not step in and at least try and give them peace...why let them be mass murdered?
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We aren't #1? then why has no one stopped us? What evidence do you have that their won't be peace in the end? I have history on my side (Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea...) Why not step in and at least try and give them peace...why let them be mass murdered?
What is the U.S. #1 in? Imperialism?
"Let's try and give them peace" That's like the guy who batters his girlfriend and then says, "Baby, let's be friends."
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What is the U.S. #1 in? Imperialism?
"Let's try and give them peace" That's like the guy who batters his girlfriend and then says, "Baby, let's be friends."
You must not be american.....are you canadian? Jag is that you?
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You must not be american
You would think that because Americans are indoctrinated from a young age to believe that we are #1. Not many seem to think outside their conditioning and realize that we aren't #1 in much. Go ahead and name those things you think America is #1 at. I already gave you one.
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You must not be american.....are you canadian? Jag is that you?
You can't just say we're number 1 though.
The US isn't number 1 in.
Telecommunications.
Education
Voter Turnout
The best place to be a mother... http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/05/13/for-mothers-the-us-is-not-number-one-not-even-close/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2Fblogs%2Fnotion%3Fpid%3D194814&frame=true (http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/05/13/for-mothers-the-us-is-not-number-one-not-even-close/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2Fblogs%2Fnotion%3Fpid%3D194814&frame=true)
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You can't just say we're number 1 though.
The US isn't number 1 in.
Telecommunications.
Education
Voter Turnout
The best place to be a mother... http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/05/13/for-mothers-the-us-is-not-number-one-not-even-close/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2Fblogs%2Fnotion%3Fpid%3D194814&frame=true (http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/05/13/for-mothers-the-us-is-not-number-one-not-even-close/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2Fblogs%2Fnotion%3Fpid%3D194814&frame=true)
until someone knocks us off the throne we are #1....don't care what you say...libs are tryin to change that though
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until someone knocks us off the throne we are #1....don't care what you say...libs are tryin to change that though
#1 in what?
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until someone knocks us off the throne we are #1....don't care what you say...libs are tryin to change that though
Come on man... I want us to be number 1. I live in this country too, but I can't spend money on education (which by the way equates to our country's future) when it's all going to Iraq...
What is the US number 1 in?
You say we're number 1... please tell me what we're number 1 in.
(Besides Military spending)
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#1 in what?
everything baby...we do what we want and noone will stop us...that =#1
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30 May update...
Monster red herring thread . nice work.
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Come on man... I want us to be number 1. I live in this country too, but I can't spend money on education (which by the way equates to our country's future) when it's all going to Iraq...
What is the US number 1 in?
You say we're number 1... please tell me what we're number 1 in.
(Besides Military spending)
Ok, I'll tell you what...I will agree that we waste money in Iraq as soon as you will admit we are wasting money combating mother nature or as libs like to call it "global warming"
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everything baby...we do what we want and noone will stop us...that =#1
That's the one I already gave you- imperialism. Nothing to be proud of. Got anything more? Human rights, economic mobility, education, etc.
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30 May update...
Monster red herring thread . nice work.
Aren't you glad to have me back? I have gotten to you yet again where all you can do is try to insult me!!! I love this game!
how does your dumbass propose that it is a red herring?....oh wait, I know...you pulled out your Dem handbook again...
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Ok, I'll tell you what...I will agree that we waste money in Iraq as soon as you will admit we are wasting money combating mother nature or as libs like to call it "global warming"
I don't see how anything that can be helpful to our environment is a waste.
Where are we "wasting" money?
Even if "Global Warming" is a myth, doesn't it make sense to be nice to the environment if you can? How much does it "cost" to be more fuel conscientious. I thought if you used less fuel, you'd spend LESS money.
At least that's how it works for me.
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I don't see how anything that can be helpful to our environment is a waste.
Where are we "wasting" money?
Even if "Global Warming" is a myth, doesn't it make sense to be nice to the environment if you can? How much does it "cost" to be more fuel conscientious. I thought if you used less fuel, you'd spend LESS money.
At least that's how it works for me.
I'll give you the fuel... but we could use all the fuel we want for eternity and mother nature will do what she wants...
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I didn't say only liberals get abortions, but the liberals are the ones crying about the soldier deaths, not conservatives, and the liberals are also the ones that want to keep killing babies, not conservatives. True conservatives don't get abortions
Do you believe the War in Iraq is a war True conservatives support?
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That's the one I already gave you- imperialism. Nothing to be proud of. Got anything more? Human rights, economic mobility, education, etc.
Nope, I didn't think so.
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Nope, I didn't think so.
well our human rights are for sure the best in the world, our moral compass, our pride (with the exception of you) our military, our work ethic etc....
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Aren't you glad to have me back? I have gotten to you yet again where all you can do is try to insult me!!! I love this game!
Do you still hate black people as much as you did in April, mm69?
Red herring, meet red herring.
Do you prefer logging in as mm69 or egp13 (a nonstop poster who disappeared when you came back - much like you disappeared when he arrived. Oh - and cue him to log in quickly and post 2 times before disappearing until the next time you're called on it).
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well our human rights are for sure the best in the world, our moral compass, our pride (with the exception of you) our military, our work ethic etc....
Human rights- How are we doing with immigrants? Prisoners of war? You yourself avocate for waterboarding. The right to healthcare?
Moral compass- Invade and destroy a sovereign nation, profit uber alles
Pride- That's just nationalism
Military- We are the bullies of the world!
Work ethic- Why do you think we beat other countries at this?
Your claim has no basis in reality. I can see you with a big foam finger, stupidly chanting "We're number 1!"
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Do you still hate black people as much as you did in April, mm69?
Red herring, meet red herring.
Do you prefer logging in as mm69 or egp13 (a nonstop poster who disappeared when you came back - much like you disappeared when he arrived. Oh - and cue him to log in quickly and post 2 times before disappearing until the next time you're called on it).
geese good one.....
you still can't answer why you think I would lie about egj13....I have no reason to....
way to run to insults when your "arguments" fail
better do some reading tonight so you have something to post tomorrow
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mm69,
how can you condone waterboarding, but say our human rights are the best in the world?
Look at the many nations who DON'T waterboard. How are they WORSE than us in terms of human rights?
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you still can't answer why you think I would lie about egj13....I have no reason to....
you were exposed as a racist. that's plenty of reason. many folks muted you. more reason.
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More babies killed today than all military deaths in the Iraq war to date...
You should be happy......their probably all liberals babies. ::)
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mm69,
how can you condone waterboarding, but say our human rights are the best in the world?
Look at the many nations who DON'T waterboard. How are they WORSE than us in terms of human rights?
I don't see us waterboarding american citizens...I could care less what they do with detainees...no sympathy..so yes our human rights are top notch for our citizens
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I'll give you the fuel... but we could use all the fuel we want for eternity and mother nature will do what she wants...
I won't disagree, maybe that's true, but if you err on the side of caution, AND it saves some money, wouldn't that be the best course of action?
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I'll give you the fuel... but we could use all the fuel we want for eternity and mother nature will do what she wants...
Are you a scientist? ::)..... Do you have any kind of educational background in science?.... ::)
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I don't see us waterboarding american citizens...I could care less what they do with detainees...no sympathy..so yes our human rights are top notch for our citizens
According to you, waterboarding is not torture. So why shouldn't the government use it on U.S. citizens?
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According to you, waterboarding is not torture. So why shouldn't the government use it on U.S. citizens?
I didn't say they wouldn't, just that they haven't...and I would like to see that shit on some of these murderers that won't confess to what the total of their action is.
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I won't disagree, maybe that's true, but if you err on the side of caution, AND it saves some money, wouldn't that be the best course of action?
I'm not against trying new things, just don't think the government should pass laws making things mandatory that no one has proof will even help. I am about smaller govt....
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I didn't say they wouldn't, just that they haven't...and I would like to see that shit on some of these murderers that won't confess to what the total of their action is.
you think they should torture US citizens?
Wow.
Just, wow.
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you think they should torture US citizens?
Wow.
Just, wow.
I didn't say torture, I said waterboard...I'm sure you know my stance on waterboarding....I mean hell, they put SERE and SEAL trainees through a form of waterboarding......the strong can survive the treatment, the weak give in....if you have a serial killer that has bodies of which he won't reveal the location, why not wateboard him and find out where the people are?
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Ok right thread ::)
Considering the fact that the Left will be taking over soon and i don't trust them near as much as Bush and he's completely lost me at this point, giving anybody the power to torture Americans is a bad idea. Muslims hiding nukes or muslim supporters hiding nukes don't fall into this category. Fuck them!!!!
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why let them be mass murdered?
by now we have killed more iraqis then saddam ever did...
btw..what magic number did he have to kill for us to try n liberate em
i mean we WERE FRIENDS WITH HIM
you have killed 23341...thats fiiine by us...23342..oh gash darnit now ya done it..we shallll invade ::)
n oh..answer me this..someone that has nukes and sees the biggest army on this planet attacking..dont ya think that person might think " heyy this might be a good time to use em" :-\
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We haven't and I'd like to see proof..I'm sure if we stay we might. And Hitler didn't and he could have so Saddam might have some crap lying around and decided not to. I sure as hell thought we'd get slimed while we rolled toward Bagdad