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NEW YORK Three people were arrested and one other was being sought in connection to a plan to set off explosives at John F. Kennedy International Airport, officials close to the investigation said.
The plot, which never got past the planning stages, did not involve airplanes or passenger terminals, according to the two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the arrests had not yet been announced. They did not elaborate on the specific target at the airport, one of the nation's busiest.
Details were to be given out at a 1 p.m. news conference.
Must be true. FOX News. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,277337,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,277337,00.html)
They were going to try and blow up jet fuel hoping for a catastophic chain reaction. :o
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Thanks President Bush for keeping our country safer.
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Something tells me Bush didn't have anything to do with it... Once again, the FBI... As it should be... Can we please get rid of the Dept. of Homeland defense now? It's such a waste.
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Thanks President Bush for keeping our country safer.
Thanks President Bush for pissing so many people off so badly that they want to do this to us. :-\
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Yeah....I heard it was a Catholic , a Jew and a Lutheren..oh wait..no? it was couple of Muslims? ...no way!!! not the religion of peace, I refuse to believe a bunch of wothless pieces of shit wanted to blow up an airport. ::)
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Thanks President Bush for pissing so many people off so badly that they want to do this to us. :-\
Right, because terrorism didn't exist before 2000.
The funny thing is that the government is trying to play it like this was going to be a doomsday scenario. A spokesman for the company that runs the pipelines said they are designed not to blow up like the suspects thought they would.
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Right, because terrorism didn't exist before 2000.
Not nearly to the degree it does now thanks to the worst president ever. :-\
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Terrorism has been a huge problem for America for more than 30 years.
And you seem to be starting with the false premise that there is some rationality to terrorism. These guys usually have no clear goals or motives.
They weren't even middle eastern muslims. One was American, one was Guyanese, they were working in conjunction with a Trinadadian terror cell.
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Not nearly to the degree it does now thanks to the worst president ever. :-\
Whut?
Jimmy Carter is back in the White House? :o
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Whut?
Jimmy Carter is back in the White House? :o
Let's not get carried away here... Carter wasn't a bad president at all.
Herbert Hoover... terrible. Grant... Bad... Bush... just the worst... he really is.
How about this... If he's not the worst, then tell me some of the good things he's done... I'd like to hear them, because I must keep missing them.
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Not nearly to the degree it does now thanks to the worst president ever. :-\
I'd reply, but you're obviously too stupid to understand :-\
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Terrorism has been a huge problem for America for more than 30 years.
And you seem to be starting with the false premise that there is some rationality to terrorism. These guys usually have no clear goals or motives.
They weren't even middle eastern muslims. One was American, one was Guyanese, they were working in conjunction with a Trinadadian terror cell.
i saw a History channel special on this.. Like Egyptian muslim clerics preaching anti-american rhetoric in the early 70's. Looks like these guys have been around and dubya is giving them more and more excuses.
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Let's not get carried away here... Carter wasn't a bad president at all.
Herbert Hoover... terrible. Grant... Bad... Bush... just the worst... he really is.
How about this... If he's not the worst, then tell me some of the good things he's done... I'd like to hear them, because I must keep missing them.
Again, what would Gore or Kerry done if they would have been elected instead of Bush after 9/11? And just why is he the worst?
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Thanks President Bush for pissing so many people off so badly that they want to do this to us. :-\
Your an idiot, if it wasn't for Bush we wouldn't have the security we have now and that goes for around the world!
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Again, what would Gore or Kerry done if they would have been elected instead of Bush after 9/11? And just why is he the worst?
You're asking me to answer to something I can't... I don't know what they would have done... No one does.
Every thing he's touched has gone to absolute crap.
The guy thinks he can write blank checks for everything and he does not think about the consequences of his actions.
Those are just a couple of things off the top of my head that make him the worst.
If you don't think he's the worst, then who was?
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You're asking me to answer to something I can't... I don't know what they would have done... No one does.
Every thing he's touched has gone to absolute crap.
The guy thinks he can write blank checks for everything and he does not think about the consequences of his actions.
Those are just a couple of things off the top of my head that make him the worst.
If you don't think he's the worst, then who was?
We have an extremly proporus economy, intrest rates are low, something like 4.5% unemployment and the markets are hitting an all time high............during wartime mind you, how can you say everything he touches has gone to absolute crap?
I think history has shown that during wartimes we generally had a weak economy.
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We have an extremly proporus economy, intrest rates are low, something like 4.5% unemployment and the markets are hitting an all time high............during wartime mind you, how can you say everything he touches has gone to absolute crap?
I think history has shown that during wartimes we generally had a weak economy.
Interest rates are low because the economy is weak... Unemployment is a made up number... If you don't collect unemployment (ie, your benefits have run out) you're no longer considered 'unemployed', so I don't like using those figures.
I mean, who has been worse than he has been?
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Interest rates are low because the economy is weak... Unemployment is a made up number... If you don't collect unemployment (ie, your benefits have run out) you're no longer considered 'unemployed', so I don't like using those figures.
I mean, who has been worse than he has been?
The economy is weak? Where? Sorry you don't like those figures, but thats just the way it is. Dude, your about the only liberal with any commonsense and don't name call when someone disagrees with you, but come on, give credit when credit is due, the dow was almost at another record yesterday!
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The economy is weak? Where? Sorry you don't like those figures, but thats just the way it is. Dude, your about the only liberal with any commonsense and don't name call when someone disagrees with you, but come on, give credit when credit is due, the dow was almost at another record yesterday!
I've always found the Dow to be a fictitious and inflated sense of the economy.
If you look at inflation since the late 80s the Dow does not match up with it equally... I don't hold the numbers that the Dow produces to be very indicative of the economy as a whole.
That's just me though, some may disagree...
Still, who's been worse than Bush?
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Yeah....I heard it was a Catholic , a Jew and a Lutheren..oh wait..no?
HAHAHA ;D
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Herbert Hoover... terrible. Grant... Bad... Bush... just the worst... he really is.
If he was bad than why did the theme song from "All in the Family" say "Mister we could use a man
Like Herbert Hoover again." ??? ;D
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If he was bad than why did the theme song from "All in the Family" say "Mister we could use a man
Like Herbert Hoover again." ??? ;D
Yeah, I never understood that... Herbert Hoover was one of the worst in history... The term sucks like a Hoover... was really about him, because he freaking sucked!
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Something tells me Bush didn't have anything to do with it... Once again, the FBI... As it should be... Can we please get rid of the Dept. of Homeland defense now? It's such a waste.
why didnt they try to blow up the airport or get on an airplane? because they knew they couldnt get past the security. before homeland they could have easily walked through one of the checkpoints.. homeland is in the business of prevention not apprehension like the fbi.
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Right, because terrorism didn't exist before 2000.
The funny thing is that the government is trying to play it like this was going to be a doomsday scenario. A spokesman for the company that runs the pipelines said they are designed not to blow up like the suspects thought they would.
how many people were killed on american soil before 911?
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I'd reply, but you're obviously too stupid to understand :-\
Good Lord, the irony, it's literally dripping from your post.
It's similar to those posts you make criticizing people for blaming everything on Bush.
You're simply too fueled by hate and right wing propaganda to see anything in any kind of objective way. It's border line frightening.
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I've always found the Dow to be a fictitious and inflated sense of the economy.
Funny, investers including me find it a great indicator, as a matter of fact, so does the rest of the world.
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why didnt they try to blow up the airport or get on an airplane? because they knew they couldnt get past the security. before homeland they could have easily walked through one of the checkpoints.. homeland is in the business of prevention not apprehension like the fbi.
You're missing the point... The Dept. of Homeland transportation as an agency is unneeded... It should never have been created.
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Funny, investers including me find it a great indicator, as a matter of fact, so does the rest of the world.
Not really... It's good for investors because investors use the numbers... Normal people really don't care too much what the Dow does.
Seriously, if you count for inflation, how does is the Dow so damn high? It's just not sensible.
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Bush and Carter are neck in neck for worst..if we never get attacked again and our economy stays strong...Bush won't even be mentioned as the worst next to Carter, who I believ is easily the worst we have ever had.
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Bush and Carter are neck in neck for worst..if we never get attacked again and our economy stays strong...Bush won't even be mentioned as the worst next to Carter, who I believ is easily the worst we have ever had.
What did Carter do that was bad? I'm still trying to figure that one out... Are we talking about the problems with Gasoline? Is that all?
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Yeah....I heard it was a Catholic , a Jew and a Lutheren..oh wait..no? it was couple of Muslims? ...no way!!! not the religion of peace, I refuse to believe a bunch of wothless pieces of shit wanted to blow up an airport. ::)
Right, and it's easier to believe that they hate us because they hate democracy than the fact that they hate us because we are there KILLING them.
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You're missing the point... The Dept. of Homeland transportation as an agency is unneeded... It should never have been created.
im not sure what homeland transpertation is.. do you mean the transportation security admin? the tsa was created because airports are still the #1 target for terrorists. look what happend to our economy in the days after 911 -air transportation is something that must be heavily guarded..
the whole point of homeland is to combine all of the agencies -tsa,border patroll, immigration,fbi anti terror, coast guard, local pd,nsa.....so homeland isn't really a separate agency like the fbi.. it just combines all of these agencies under one rule.. it provides many things that were not done before, and they all run much more effectively. the biggest problem before 911 is that none of the agencies provided info to each other, now all of them must report to homeland and that is spread throughout the other agencies.
so homeland security is "a waste of money" because these agencys already existed, they are just now under one rule
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im not sure what homeland transpertation is.. do you mean the transportation security admin? the tsa was created because airports are still the #1 target for terrorists. look what happend to our economy in the days after 911 -air transportation is something that must be heavily guarded..
the whole point of homeland is to combine all of the agencies -tsa,border patroll, immigration,fbi anti terror, coast guard, local pd,nsa.....so homeland isn't really a separate agency like the fbi.. it just combines all of these agencies under one rule.. it provides many things that were not done before, and they all run much more effectively. the biggest problem before 911 is that none of the agencies provided info to each other, now all of them must report to homeland and that is spread throughout the other agencies.
so homeland security is "a waste of money" because these agencys already existed, they are just now under one rule
As an agency, yes... You could have put them under I dunno.. the Dept. of Defense... What else is security if it's not "Defense".
Isn't that what defense is all about?
And of course I meant the Dept of Homeland Security being a waste... Many thoughts going on at once.
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What did Carter do that was bad? I'm still trying to figure that one out... Are we talking about the problems with Gasoline? Is that all?
I"m looking for a site I found that hasa run down of stupid to dangerous stuff that he did..it breaks each thing down...its easily on pare with Bush...Sold out Iran/allowed the hostage crisis/allowed Russian invasion of Afghanistan/fuel crisis/economy..the list is endless but the site has the breakdown and a better indepth answer to ur question..i'll try and find it.
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Let's not get carried away here... Carter wasn't a bad president at all.
Herbert Hoover... terrible. Grant... Bad... Bush... just the worst... he really is.
How about this... If he's not the worst, then tell me some of the good things he's done... I'd like to hear them, because I must keep missing them.
I disagree. Look at his record. The guy was as bad as it gets.
Inflation, high taxes, economy in the toilet, gas lines, Iran hostage crisis, the list goes on and on.
Bush may be bad but he's no where as bad as the socialist peanut.
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I disagree. Look at his record. The guy was as bad as it gets.
Inflation, high taxes, economy in the toilet, gas lines, Iran hostage crisis, the list goes on and on.
Bush may be bad but he's no where as bad as the socialist peanut.
Hahaha... What's funny is that really, what you described is this administration to a T!
Let's not forget that Carter started the push for supply side economics, which is something that's usually, and erroneously accredited to Reagan.
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Hahaha... What's funny is that really, what you described is this administration to a T!
Let's not forget that Carter started the push for supply side economics, which is something that's usually, and erroneously accredited to Reagan.
We have high taxes, a hostage crisis, out of control inflation, gas lines, and a bad economy under the present administration?
Please get your facts straight.
Taxes are lower (they should be even lower!) and tax revenue is up, unemployment is the lowest it has ever been, and the economy is booming.
I have yet to come across a gas line in the Baltimore/Washington Metro area.
While we are at war we do not have another "Iran hostage crisis" on our hands.
Don't get me wrong, I think Bush is doing a terrible job with the handling of the war and the Bush-Kennedy Illegal Alien Amnesty plan but he's not as bad as the Socialist Peanut.
So are Americans better off now than they were under Carter? Fvck yes.
Hell, I'm even better off now than I was under the Clinton administration.
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Not really... It's good for investors because investors use the numbers... Normal people really don't care too much what the Dow does.
Seriously, if you count for inflation, how does is the Dow so damn high? It's just not sensible.
I agree...although I feel like the economy is fairly good just from looking around me....I admit I don't know shit about stocks (why I am still middle class) but I don't look at thing like "the dow closed over 12000 for the first time" as anything more than with time it is bound to do so.
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Again, what would Gore or Kerry done if they would have been elected instead of Bush after 9/11? And just why is he the worst?
Al Gore would not have wasted resources invading Iraq. Read his 2002 speech about the wisdom of invading Iraq. http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html
...President Bush is telling us that the most urgent requirement of the moment right now is not to redouble our efforts against Al Qaeda, not to stabilize the nation of Afghanistan after driving his host government from power, but instead to shift our focus and concentrate on immediately launching a new war against Saddam Hussein. And he is proclaiming a new, uniquely American right to pre-emptively attack whomsoever he may deem represents a potential future threat. ...
By shifting from his early focus after September 11th on war against terrorism to war against Iraq, the President has manifestly disposed of the sympathy, good will and solidarity compiled by America and transformed it into a sense of deep misgiving and even hostility. In just one year, the President has somehow squandered the international outpouring of sympathy, goodwill and solidarity that followed the attacks of September 11th and converted it into anger and apprehension aimed much more at the United States than at the terrorist network much as we manage to squander in one years time the largest budget surpluses in history and convert them into massive fiscal deficits. He has compounded this by asserting a new doctrine of preemption.
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Now tell me, who was closer to the truth: Al Gore or George "Mission Accomplished, Greeted w/ roses as liberators" Bush?
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I disagree. Look at his record. The guy was as bad as it gets.
Inflation, high taxes, economy in the toilet, gas lines, Iran hostage crisis, the list goes on and on.
Bush may be bad but he's no where as bad as the socialist peanut.
You can't blame Carter for the inflation that started in '65 and grew until Carter's term. Fed. Res. Chmn. Paul Volcker put the country through an intentional recession until the early 1980s when inflation was reigned in and then slashed interest rates (which were as high as 20%) to flood the economy w/ money.
Other than the power of appointment re the federal reserve, a president generally has little to do with the economic cycle.
Many of Carter's deregulatory efforts were continued and accelerated by Reagan: railroads, trucking, oil...Carter cut capital gains from 39% to 28%.
So, in short, Carter's not to blame for the stagflation and Reagan is not responsible for the economic turnaround.
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You can't blame Carter for the inflation that started in '65 and grew until Carter's term. Fed. Res. Chmn. Paul Volcker put the country through an intentional recession until the early 1980s when inflation was reigned in and then slashed interest rates (which were as high as 20%) to flood the economy w/ money.
Other than the power of appointment re the federal reserve, a president generally has little to do with the economic cycle.
Many of Carter's deregulatory efforts were continued and accelerated by Reagan: railroads, trucking, oil...Carter cut capital gains from 39% to 28%.
So, in short, Carter's not to blame for the stagflation and Reagan is not responsible for the economic turnaround.
I respectfully disagree.
From everything I've read Carter messed up. He was given a bad situation and made it worse.
Now being a child of the 70s I do recall a lot of the problems of that era and how things improved under Reagan's leadership.
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I respectfully disagree.
From everything I've read Carter messed up. He was given a bad situation and made it worse.
Now being a child of the 70s I do recall a lot of the problems of that era and how things improved under Reagan's leadership.
Tell me why you disagree with my assessment. I lived through the '70s too.
Did you know that:
President Reagan raised taxes 7 times in his eight years in office.
President Reagan signed the largest tax increase in history.
It's still the largest tax hike ever to this day.
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Based on the fact that the economy was in the tank during Carter's admin. Reagan completely revitalized the economy, setting the stage for the Clinton explosion. I am not saying Clinton did not do a good job as far as the economy but he had a solid foundation to work from. Reagan rebuilt the military, and avoided getting us involved in huge ground occupations, prefering to use proxies as well as overwhelming force when neccesary. He gave the USA a sence of pride and he made it a point of his administration to work to bankrupt the Soviets and help end the cold war. There were issues with some of his econmoic policies....we had a short term recession before Clinton came into office as a result of Bush Sr's policies....and Reagan didn't exactly help the family farmer. He was still the right manfor the job, and exactly what we needed after the disaster that was Carter.
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Based on the fact that the economy was in the tank during Carter's admin. Reagan completely revitalized the economy, setting the stage for the Clinton explosion. I am not saying Clinton did not do a good job as far as the economy but he had a solid foundation to work from. Reagan rebuilt the military, and avoided getting us involved in huge ground occupations, prefering to use proxies as well as overwhelming force when neccesary. He gave the USA a sence of pride and he made it a point of his administration to work to bankrupt the Soviets and help end the cold war. There were issues with some of his econmoic policies....we had a short term recession before Clinton came into office as a result of Bush Sr's policies....and Reagan didn't exactly help the family farmer. He was still the right manfor the job, and exactly what we needed after the disaster that was Carter.
I took no pride in Reagan's support of Nicaraguan rightwing deathsquads. Nor did I take pride in his selling of arms to Iran in Contravention of Congress.
How did Reagan completely revitalize the economy?
I thought that Paul Volcker was responsible for the economic upturn by inducing recession then slashing interest rates.
As for the fall of the Soviet Union, President Reagan was just continuing policies started and maintained by his predecessors. He did nothing special in that respect.
If Reagan set the table for the Clinton economic expansion, did the policies of Gerald Ford set the table for the Reagan economic expansion?
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I thought that Paul Volcker was responsible for the economic upturn by inducing recession then slashing interest rates.
This is why libs disgust me....Volker lowered interest rates so he gets the credit for the economy.....Today, Interest rates are raised and whose fault is it? exactly Bush....
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By rebuilding the military...reordering contrcats such as the B1..M1 etc etc....it bankrupted the Soviets who could not compete. I'm sorry u didn;t like the campaigns in central and south America...it kept the commies back..and cause the Soviets andf their allies to spend tons of money...proxy wars helped end the cold war and avoided a glow in the dark America and an occupied Western Europe. All in all things worked out well.
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I thought that Paul Volcker was responsible for the economic upturn by inducing recession then slashing interest rates.
This is why libs disgust me....Volker lowered interest rates so he gets the credit for the economy.....Today, Interest rates are raised and whose fault is it? exactly Bush....
Who is faulting Bush besides you?
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By rebuilding the military...reordering contrcats such as the B1..M1 etc etc....it bankrupted the Soviets who could not compete. I'm sorry u didn;t like the campaigns in central and south America...it kept the commies back..and cause the Soviets andf their allies to spend tons of money...proxy wars helped end the cold war and avoided a glow in the dark America and an occupied Western Europe. All in all things worked out well.
So Ronald Reagan spent the Soviets into submission?
Did you know that Russia still has its ICBMs pointed at us ready to go at a moment's notice?
What did Reagan win again?
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Yeah...so what..who are they gonna trade with if we are gone..I am not worried about Russia in that way. I'm worried about some scumbag witha backpack nuke killing u and your family..its not if its when bro.
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Yeah...so what..who are they gonna trade with if we are gone..I am not worried about Russia in that way. I'm worried about some scumbag witha backpack nuke killing u and your family..its not if its when bro.
Agreed. Terrorists are not apt to mutual assured destruction.
That's why we need a maximum police effort to keep these radicals down.
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Who is faulting Bush besides you?
I wasn't meaning you personally...just your crew
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Agreed. Terrorists are not apt to mutual assured destruction.
That's why we need a maximum police effort to keep these radicals down.
Thats why we need some of the relaxed rules allowing the Feds to do what they do.My boss' brother is an FBI agent with the Anti-Terrorism TF in cali, he was invloved with plot to blow up LAX in 2004ish. Anyway he says its harder now to get a warrent and do searches then it was pre-911. the pendulum has swung back to make sure liberties are secured so if we can just get back to normal, we will continue to ensure that the scumbags stay away from our cities. I'm really worried about that kind of attack.
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Your an idiot, if it wasn't for Bush we wouldn't have the security we have now and that goes for around the world!
i uege you..when ya travel ...tell folks you r canadian..
Bush for one made sure we cant travel as americans ANYWHERE on the planet..
try it sometimes..
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My mom just flew to Ireland and on to Italy, she used her Irish passport at my urging.
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Yeah....I heard it was a Catholic , a Jew and a Lutheren..oh wait..no? it was couple of Muslims? ...no way!!! not the religion of peace, I refuse to believe a bunch of wothless pieces of shit wanted to blow up an airport. ::)
isn't it a christian that just invaded their country and killed how many?
seriously..wouldn't ya be pissed if lets say russia attacked us to "free us" from bush? ::)
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My mom just flew to Ireland and on to Italy, she used her Irish passport at my urging.
good thinking..you get treated like a 3rd class person if ya reveal you r American...a few buddies of mine couldn't get themselves a facking beer at a german bar recently..
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Yeah alot of folks in Western Europe have short memories..me I don't care, but my mom is 70 and still has her accent so i don't any problems for her while she travels.
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isn't it a christian that just invaded their country and killed how many?
seriously..wouldn't ya be pissed if lets say russia attacked us to "free us" from bush? ::)
We happen to be christian..they do it in the name of Islam....they would be trying to convert us right now as opposed to us buiding schools, roads and wells.
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We happen to be christian..
Bush thinks he's doing gods work...
then we go bomb em...and then they fight back we are told " oh they r doing it in the name of religion"
we've been fucking with their world for oil for a long time now no wonder they r pissed...
yanno when repbs say " ya dont like bush..then leave this country"
well them arab militants been saying " ya dont like our religion then dont do biz with us and leave our country" yet we remain..for the oil..we CANT leave
there r some Americans that have bought it hook line sinker..that muslims all over the planet hate the US...1.4 billion of em..ya think if 1.4 billion folks declared war on us we'd stand a chance?..maybe..but it'd sure be a cluster fuck..
jihand is not universally thought of as "holy war" ...well i ws taught the word jihand growing up and i ws taught it ws "struggle in the way of good"
which meant if i went hungry to feed a poor person i ws doing jihad...
i've said it before..if i did actually believe in god..i'd be a muslim..
o..my parents dont consider these islamists muslims..just cause they say they r dont make em that..
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Bush thinks he's doing gods work...
then we go bomb em...and then they fight back we are told " oh they r doing it in the name of religion"
we've been fucking with their world for oil for a long time now no wonder they r pissed...
yanno when repbs say " ya dont like bush..then leave this country"
well them arab militants been saying " ya dont like our religion then dont do biz with us and leave our country" yet we remain..for the oil..we CANT leave
there r some Americans that have bought it hook line sinker..that muslims all over the planet hate the US...1.4 billion of em..ya think if 1.4 billion folks declared war on us we'd stand a chance?..maybe..but it'd sure be a cluster fuck..
jihand is not universally thought of as "holy war" ...well i ws taught the word jihand growing up and i ws taught it ws "struggle in the way of good"
which meant if i went hungry to feed a poor person i ws doing jihad...
i've said it before..if i did actually believe in god..i'd be a muslim..
o..my parents dont consider these islamists muslims..just cause they say they r dont make em that..
So did Moses, Osama Ben Ladin, King Richard, etc..... religion is often used as a rallying cry.
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So did Moses, Osama Ben Ladin, King Richard, etc..... religion is often used as a rallying cry.
of course it is..
but i hate double standards and hypocracy..it insults my sensibilities..
when we do it..its for the greater good..when someone else does...its terrorism..
just be honest and say " hey we r gonna bomb em..we need the oil..we r gonna piss a lot of folks off but thats the breaks" and i'd respect ya more..
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of course it is..
but i hate double standards and hypocracy..it insults my sensibilities..
when we do it..its for the greater good..when someone else does...its terrorism..
just be honest and say " hey we r gonna bomb em..we need the oil..we r gonna piss a lot of folks off but thats the breaks" and i'd respect ya more..
I agree. But in the case of Al Queda, i see it much different.
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I agree. But in the case of Al Queda, i see it much different.
Al-Queda..these girls aren't muslims...even though their name means "according to the book"...
some passage on the koran will say..and i'll make up an example
1) try and talk to the enemy and lead by example for patience is virtue
2) try n make peace with the enemy and lead by example for such is the way of mohammed and jihad
3) if the enemy presists and war is a must spare women and children etc etc..
now thetaliban go STRAIGHT to # 3 and exclude the woman and children part and say..the koran told me to do so.. :-\
for all the bulshit i hear..no one actually picks the friggin book up and reads the source..
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Al-Queda..these girls aren't muslims...even though their name means "according to the book"...
some passage on the koran will say..and i'll make up an example
1) try and talk to the enemy and lead by example for patience is virtue
2) try n make peace with the enemy and lead my example for such is the way of mohammed and jihad
3) if the enemy presists and war is a much spare women and children etc etc..
now thetaliban go STRAIGHT to # 3 and exclude the woman and children part and say..the koran told me to do so.. :-\
for all the bulshit i hear..no one actually picks the friggin book up and reads the source..
Good post PF.
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PF I hope that picture ain't you, if it is I will have someone to take 240s place as the most ridicoulous looking person on GB
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PF I hope that picture ain't you, if it is I will have someone to take 240s place as the most ridicoulous looking person on GB
thats blupo..he thinks he's shredded....
this is me
(http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/ProteinFarts/th_00000002.jpg)
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thats blupo..he thinks he's shredded....
this is me
(http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/ProteinFarts/th_00000002.jpg)
phew, I didn't want to lose respect for you....I knew I had seen that pic somewhere before
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phew, I didn't want to lose respect for you....I knew I had seen that pic somewhere before
lol...hey man..i know i make fun of blupo..but that remains ONLY on the X..the guy is actually quite entertaining on the E board..
lets keep X stuff on the X....those are my rules and ron embraced em..and i'd be a hypocrite if i broke em..
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lol...hey man..i know i make fun of blupo..but that remains ONLY on the X..the guy is actually quite entertaining on the E board..
lets keep X stuff on the X....those are my rules and ron embraced em..and i'd be a hypocrite if i broke em..
cool cool
why in the world is this thread entitiled "alleged"?
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cool cool
why in the world is this thread entitiled "alleged"?
i dunno...twas a terror plot plain n simple..treason should be punishable by death..
i grew up in a muslim family..and AM NOT a bush fan and seriously do believe that c unt created more terrorists than he killed..
however...people like this..no if ands or buts..
death..and be done with it..
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Toxie your spinning Jihad..just like i could do the same for crusade if I were wearing a tabard with a maltese cross on it..i could say whatever i wanted..but u would know...just like we all know when these guys say Jihad they mean blowing up Westerners and war on the Western world. I never thought I was doing Gods work..Bush is might 'talk to god' but none of us think we're on some crusade...nuke my country then maybe i break out the white sheets and field plate, paint a cross on my chest and head off to the holy land.
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Toxie your spinning Jihad..just like i could do the same for crusade if I were wearing a tabard with a maltese cross on it..i could say whatever i wanted..but u would know...just like we all know when these guys say Jihad they mean blowing up Westerners and war on the Western world. I never thought I was doing Gods work..Bush is might 'talk to god' but none of us think we're on some crusade...nuke my country then maybe i break out the white sheets and field plate, paint a cross on my chest and head off to the holy land.
o the taliban MEAN HOLY WAR...i didn't say the taliban didn't
but the koran does NOT..
read it..go to a mosque and ask for a copy..you'll get it for free..
just dont read the crap on the net k.
Bush is might 'talk to god' but none of us think we're on some crusade
define crusade/JIHAD again..how many iraqis have to die for it to be a crusade?
oo wait..if its not a tradaitional holy war (cause thats hidden) then its A-OK to kill as many as ya want ::)
get off yer high horse mayne..the FACTS speak..how many Americans (christians) have the terrorists killed..
now tell me how many muslims has America killed..
THATS HOW MOST OF THE MUSLIM WORLD SEES IT.. ;)
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Yeah we see it that they want to kill us in the name of their relgion..they see it the same way..we however u spin it, are not. I have a copy...'Its the Know ur enemy thing"..anyway these people have hijacked a religion and nobody from that relgion is doing a damm thing about it.
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Tell me why you disagree with my assessment. I lived through the '70s too.
Did you know that:
President Reagan raised taxes 7 times in his eight years in office.
President Reagan signed the largest tax increase in history.
It's still the largest tax hike ever to this day.
No, Decker I had not heard that about Reagan. Could you please provide some references on the Reagan tax hikes. I'd like to read them.
I do hold Carter responsible for the poor state of the economy (high interest rates, high unemployment, and high inflation), his weak foreign policy, the list goes on and on. I've read nothing positive about this guy.
Here are some sources regarding Carter vs. Bush as who is the worst President.
Please keep your political bias aside and just look at the numbers. http://ibdeditorials.com/Special3.aspx
Also keep in mind that I'm no fan of Bush. He's no Reagan conservative. Not by a long shot.
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No, Decker I had not heard that about Reagan. Could you please provide some references on the Reagan tax hikes. I'd like to read them.
I do hold Carter responsible for the poor state of the economy (high interest rates, high unemployment, and high inflation), his weak foreign policy, the list goes on and on. I've read nothing positive about this guy.
Here are some sources regarding Carter vs. Bush as who is the worst President.
Please keep your political bias aside and just look at the numbers. http://ibdeditorials.com/Special3.aspx
Also keep in mind that I'm no fan of Bush. He's no Reagan conservative. Not by a long shot.
I think President Bush is a more extreme form of Reagan. He's doing things Reagan could only dream of.
Here's the link about the Reagan tax hikes:
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_bartlett/bartlett200310290853.asp
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I've always found the Dow to be a fictitious and inflated sense of the economy.
Still, who's been worse than Bush?
The DOW is easily manipulated. We are currently at record highs at the SAME time as record high gas, high inflation ect. This usually NEVER occurs on it's own. Help is never far away. ;)
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Did I forget the Housing Crash?
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I think President Bush is a more extreme form of Reagan. He's doing things Reagan could only dream of.
Here's the link about the Reagan tax hikes:
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_bartlett/bartlett200310290853.asp
That article should make you happy. I, on the other hand, am very disappointed.
Taxes suck.
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Your currently witnessing how a manipulated stock market works. Despite the housing crash, record gas and oil prices, record home defaults, US manufacturing in a tailspin, horrible auto sales, soaring inflation. And the market continues higher (thank God) The market is NOT reflective of the US economy. It's totally manipulated by the BIG trading firms.
As long as the market heads higher, they can manipulate all they want. ;D
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Did I forget the Housing Crash?
anyone could see the housing crash coming...they just build and build and build.....eventually buyers will run out no matter what the interest rates
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anyway these people have hijacked a religion and nobody from that relgion is doing a damm thing about it.
watcha gonna do?
we had a prominent family with govt ties but we STILL GOT ATTACKED AND A KIDNAPPING ATTEMPT WS MADE on my brother and i..why ya think we moved from pakistan?
lets say you say something ..and voice your opinions publicly..
tomorrow..in the dead of the nite they come rape the women in yopur family and then gut you in front of em and leave them to tell the tale of horror..watcha gonna do call the police?? lol..the police are afraid also..and for annyal salaryu of $1500/yr they aren't gonna help ya..they have families also..
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The terrorists where from Guyana, a south american nation.. Still don't think this is a problem? :-\
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That article should make you happy. I, on the other hand, am very disappointed.
Taxes suck.
You trivialize my view. Civil society has material and strategic needs. A government, by and for the people, sets the strategy and goals for our country. Taxes are the lifeblood of implementing policy.
It is our country and we should support it in the same manner we support our family.
There is no shortcut or magic solution to this.
Nobody likes to pay taxes from a purely selfish point of view, but the continuity of the USA depends on those tax dollars.
It is one's patriotic duty to support his country not just in words but in deeds as well.
There's a lot wrong with governmental waste. That can be fixed. Eliminate corporate influence and lobbyists by revamping campaign financing and we'll see some results pretty quickly.
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You trivialize my view. Civil society has material and strategic needs. A government, by and for the people, sets the strategy and goals for our country. Taxes are the lifeblood of implementing policy.
It is our country and we should support it in the same manner we support our family.
There is no shortcut or magic solution to this.
Nobody likes to pay taxes from a purely selfish point of view, but the continuity of the USA depends on those tax dollars.
It is one's patriotic duty to support his country not just in words but in deeds as well.
There's a lot wrong with governmental waste. That can be fixed. Eliminate corporate influence and lobbyists by revamping campaign financing and we'll see some results pretty quickly.
Sorry, I mean you no disrespect. I understand that taxes are a necessity for any functioning society. The $25,000 question is how to collect and distribute the money. I support indirect taxation thus putting control back in hands of the people. What the government has now is an direct feed to our earnings. It just isn't right.
Additionally, I wouldn't be so bitter if our government was more responsible for OUR money. There is so much wasted and zero accountability in Washington. Having served in the military and involved as a government contractor I see a lot of this first hand. It's hard not to be cynical.
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The terrorists where from Guyana, a south american nation.. Still don't think this is a problem? :-\
They are saying that there are terrorist camps in South America..forming and training small numbers of folks to get them insiude the US. Luckily the areas that they are in are like the wild west and our SOF units can go in a and take care of the problems without causing a stir.