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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: HowieW on June 04, 2007, 07:31:18 AM
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While everyone is welcome to their opinion, I find it ironic that the most vocal critics and "experts" are those that are never at the event???
A promoter is not going to care or seriously consider some tirade from a person that will never buy a ticket and never support or attend an event. Why not try looking at some specific stuff to take issue with.
For example, I enjoyed the Colorado pro show, but would have liked the expo and vendors being part of the contest area.
What is the purpose for endless bashing without substance???
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While everyone is welcome to their opinion, I find it ironic that the most vocal critics and "experts" are those that are never at the event???
A promoter is not going to care or seriously consider some tirade from a person that will never buy a ticket and never support or attend an event. Why not try looking at some specific stuff to take issue with.
For example, I enjoyed the Colorado pro show, but would have liked the expo and vendors being part of the contest area.
What is the purpose for endless bashing without substance???
Its fun, and you know it.
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Howie, you've been kissing ass since the legendary greyhound Adonis brought your comments about nailing 12-year old girls to light.
Remember?
You melted on MD, then started ten threads about "hope and change" in the sport.
So stop criticizing people. you're a perv, dude.
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Synthol, no leggs, no life.
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Live, what's with this charge. Let's hear more!
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Marrs- wtf???? are you talking about
Livewire- what did your "comment" have to do with my thread topic?
You want to bash me and start rumors, fine, whatever, etc. I am just another fan, so why waste time on me, address the ISSUE please
I am just kinda tired of posts from internet wonders that never post their name and never go to actual shows, acting like "experts" when they are pretty clueless . Oh well , do whatever.
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Live, what's with this charge. Let's hear more!
ask adonis. those punks at MD banned me right around then.
howie made some gross comments - he said he was only kidding - about nailing middle schoolers.
true adonis went too far - posted the comments along with howie's school info (howie is a high school teacher in GA). I dont condone that. But the point was that howard - jokingly - said things about what he would do to the middle school girls.
since true adonis did his thing and outed him, howie got quiet and then started all these threads about positivity. that's cool. but when howie lectures people about how to act - when he himself said gross shit about kids - not cool.
i'm sure if it's not true, howie can deny it right now. howard, did you never say those things? I'm sure TA is dying for a chance to post it again should you deny it.
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Livewire- what did your "comment" have to do with my thread topic?
You want to bash me and start rumors, fine, whatever, etc. I am just another fan, so why waste time on me, address the ISSUE please
okay, dodge it, that's cool.
are you denying you ever said anything sexual about middle schoolers, howard?
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LIVEWIRE, I'm going to check the archives at Team Adonis headquarters. I'll confirm.
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okay, dodge it, that's cool.
are you denying you ever said anything sexual about middle schoolers, howard?
Like many here I made a stupid dirty joke. I would never make a serious comment about sex with young girls.
Why do you want to bash me? What is the purpose? What do you GAIN from it? Why do you have a problem with me, have you ever met me? Who are you? Thanks Howard
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Like many here I made a stupid dirty joke. I would never make a serious comment about sex with young girls.
Why do you want to bash me? What is the purpose? What do you GAIN from it? Why do you have a problem with me, have you ever met me? Who are you? Thanks Howard
I'm a kid who works out and does okay in my city's local show and i read getbig.
i don't have a prob with you. YOU started the thread, stating you have a problem with people who criticize shows. youre trying to kiss ass, and thats cool, but dont shit on us to do it.
i think the bigger issue is, why would you make a dirty joke about a kid, dude?
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Maybe some of us dont have the time to spend with steroid abusers and an industry gayer than the rainbow flag sellers of san francisco...
just a thought..
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I'm a kid who works out and does okay in my city's local show and i read getbig.
i don't have a prob with you. YOU started the thread, stating you have a problem with people who criticize shows. youre trying to kiss ass, and thats cool, but dont shit on us to do it.
i think the bigger issue is, why would you make a dirty joke about a kid, dude?
Ok for starters, good luck at your next show and your training. 2nd I never made a joke about anyone specific, just some crude joke in general , which was tasteless and crude , but no personal attacks on any actual kids.
For those that want to know here it is.
A gym owner and character once told me this crude joke about how young is too young when it comes to babes.
He said; " if there is grass on the field....play ball".
That is it and I only quoted the guy and never did I make a serious statement about some actual girl or sex act, etc
3rd, what bugs me is how so many attack the sport that never even go to events. My issue is how can anyone really be certain what went on at a show and never go????
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Ok for starters, good luck at your next show and your training. 2nd I never made a joke about anyone specific, just some crude joke in general , which was tasteless and crude , but no personal attacks on any actual kids.
For those that want to know here it is.
A gym owner and character once told me this crude joke about how young is too young when it comes to babes.
He said; " if there is grass on the field....play ball".
That is it and I only quoted the guy and never did I make a serious statement about some actual girl or sex act, etc
3rd, what bugs me is how so many attack the sport that never even go to events. My issue is how can anyone really be certain what went on at a show and never go????
ahh, gotcha, no prob then, it's cool.
no one really attacks the sport, well, most of us dont. we just talk about what we like and dislike.
anyway, i gotta go. time to play ball!
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It's funny how HowieW is talking shit on this thread about people bad mouthing a show when not being there, knowing very well that the same show he is talking about and the only instance of that show that is being bashed has to do with that 10 yr. old little girl who put up what seemed to most like a STRIP Show at the Colorado Pro.
Now, we here at Getbig know very well that there seem to be many funny characters here that follow a hidden agenda at times. Be it MD and their shills that will do anything to promote their magazine and Blechman at NO cost or be it the different teams that gang up together and attack morons, the likes of HowieW in order to make him understand his downfalls. Here, in this thread, we are slowly revealing the hidden agenda that one Pedophile by the name of HowieW has and is trying real hard to conceal.
In the other thread asking the question of whether or not a 10 yr. old girl has a place in a pro-show performing what appears to be a strip dance, here is what HowieW had to say:
Well said and I agree 100% with this post. I was THERE, I saw it and belive me when bodybuilding corsses the line I speak up. This was cute kid doing a fitness routine with some exercise skills that were pretty advanced for her age.
How in the hell is this sport going to advance if we don't get young people involved and active in it?????
Of course you would find the kid to be cute you fucking pervert, you're the same pedophile that got destroyed over at MD by everyone for making comments about screwing 12-year old girls. Adonis destroyed your ass and could have gotten you fired. You knowing very well as a teacher made remarks about screwing middle-school girls and now in this thread and another you see no harm in having a 10 yr. old do a strip tease and expect NO ONE to read right through your bullshit. Then you try to kick sand over the facts that have been uncovered by posting this garbage:
Like many here I made a stupid dirty joke. I would never make a serious comment about sex with young girls.
Why do you want to bash me? What is the purpose? What do you GAIN from it? Why do you have a problem with me, have you ever met me? Who are you? Thanks Howard
You can make any type of joke you want, but some jokes cross the line. We don't make jokes about having sex with little girls, we don't post nude pictures of kids and think it's in good humor and when you make a joke that lets people into what you really think deep down inside about "little girls", it's beyond a Freudian-slip, it's more like the caged-in HowieW who "probably" owns a closet full of kiddie porn and is now truly showing his colors. Hand them over HowieW....
....the bag full of pictures you took of that 10 yr. old girl to add to your "album",
"1"
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Look I re-posted the actual 1 line stupid, crude joke that I quoted from a gym owner, etc.
Why you want to take such time and effort to bash me and be so obssessed with me is something I can't fathom. But opinions vary.
For the record, I have been with 3 woman in the past 22 yrs, was married to the 1st two for nearly a decade each and dated the 3rd one for the past 6 mos. I enjoy a good career as high school educator in chemistry and physics and used to coach. I also post useing my real identity, but if you prefer to remain hidden, fine, that is your right. I have no sexual interests in 10 yr old kids and enjoy a wonderful relationship with my lady Beth.
Good luck in your life, Howard
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My issue is how can anyone really be certain what went on at a show and never go????
Also, to support our fellow Getbig brothers who didn't go, Bodybuilding.com has the live stream playing which aired just about everything. So, unless you were in the backstage area, you got to see the same show everyone saw at the comfort of their homes..
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Also, to support our fellow Getbig brothers who didn't go, Bodybuilding.com has the live stream playing which aired just about everything. So, unless you were in the backstage area, you got to see the same show everyone saw at the comfort of their homes..
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Yes, and I guess watching a little box is the same as being there....right?
Oh well, look buddy, if ya want to disagree with me, no biggy, but at least make some logical pts ok.
Good luck, Howard
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I used to coach.
uh oh.
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Look I re-posted the actual 1 line stupid, crude joke that I quoted from a gym owner, etc.
Why you want to take such time and effort to bash me and be so obssessed with me is something I can't fathom. But opinions vary.
For the record, I have been with 3 woman in the past 22 yrs, was married to the 1st two for nearly a decade each and dated the 3rd one for the past 6 mos. I enjoy a good career as high school educator in chemistry and physics and used to coach. I also post useing my real identity, but if you prefer to remain hidden, fine, that is your right. I have no sexual interests in 10 yr old kids and enjoy a wonderful relationship with my lady Beth.
Good luck in your life, Howard
I have no qualms with you Howard. I have never even replied to any of your threads/post, so an obsession with you is OUT OF THE QUESTION. Opinions do vary Howard, but when a man who has clearly crossed or "joked" with that thick line of pedophilia makes reference to how proper a "little 10 yr. old's STRIP dance" was at a Pro show, I start to wonder and then I make a post in reply to your comment, simple as that.
If you don't want to be scrutinized, then don't come on here and scrutinized the many GetBiggers who might have not been at that show for whatever reason and assume that they have no way of knowing what went down. The age of the caveman is long gone my friend, we can get all sorts of "material" off the web now without having to resort to venues for exposure..
Your personal history with women is irrelevant for as no one can prove that is true, just as no one can prove that you are not a pervert/pedophile. If you feel the need to disclose your personal identity in order to later become the object of ridicule by way of animated .gif's and oddball pictures that place you in kitty brothels in the outskirts of Manila, then so be it, but none of that has to do with the issue at hand.
Good luck in "your" life HowieW,
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Oh well, look buddy, if ya want to disagree with me, no biggy, but at least make some logical pts ok.
Good luck, Howard
It doesn't get MORE LOGICAL than this HowieW:
It's funny how HowieW is talking shit on this thread about people bad mouthing a show when not being there, knowing very well that the same show he is talking about and the only instance of that show that is being bashed has to do with that 10 yr. old little girl who put up what seemed to most like a STRIP Show at the Colorado Pro.
Now, we here at Getbig know very well that there seem to be many funny characters here that follow a hidden agenda at times. Be it MD and their shills that will do anything to promote their magazine and Blechman at NO cost or be it the different teams that gang up together and attack morons, the likes of HowieW in order to make him understand his downfalls. Here, in this thread, we are slowly revealing the hidden agenda that one Pedophile by the name of HowieW has and is trying real hard to conceal.
In the other thread asking the question of whether or not a 10 yr. old girl has a place in a pro-show performing what appears to be a strip dance, here is what HowieW had to say:
Well said and I agree 100% with this post. I was THERE, I saw it and belive me when bodybuilding corsses the line I speak up. This was cute kid doing a fitness routine with some exercise skills that were pretty advanced for her age.
How in the hell is this sport going to advance if we don't get young people involved and active in it?????
Of course you would find the kid to be cute you fucking pervert, you're the same pedophile that got destroyed over at MD by everyone for making comments about screwing 12-year old girls. Adonis destroyed your ass and could have gotten you fired. You knowing very well as a teacher made remarks about screwing middle-school girls and now in this thread and another you see no harm in having a 10 yr. old do a strip tease and expect NO ONE to read right through your bullshit. Then you try to kick sand over the facts that have been uncovered by posting this garbage:
Like many here I made a stupid dirty joke. I would never make a serious comment about sex with young girls.
Why do you want to bash me? What is the purpose? What do you GAIN from it? Why do you have a problem with me, have you ever met me? Who are you? Thanks Howard
You can make any type of joke you want, but some jokes cross the line. We don't make jokes about having sex with little girls, we don't post nude pictures of kids and think it's in good humor and when you make a joke that lets people into what you really think deep down inside about "little girls", it's beyond a Freudian-slip, it's more like the caged-in HowieW who "probably" owns a closet full of kiddie porn and is now truly showing his colors. Hand them over HowieW....
....the bag full of pictures you took of that 10 yr. old girl to add to your "album",
"1"
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this is Getbig Howie.
we don't kiss arse and we don't tolerate those that do.
we are damn well entitled to our opinions and if you fuck with that you better not have skeletons in your closet.
i sure do hope no one reports your ass to the education board bud. ;)
oh btw, Livewire owns you. ;D
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synthol leads to erectile dysfunction
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i've been to tonnes of prejudgings..
i've never been to a nite show..
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What happened at the expo with the Dark Tan people wanting to leave. And why don't the pros who are in the show go to the expo and sign autographs for the fans. This would help the image of BB greatly.
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"i've been to tonnes of prejudgings..
i've never been to a nite show.."
Yep.
Prejudging:
-cheaper
-more bodybuilding, less flash than nite show
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"i've been to tonnes of prejudgings..
i've never been to a nite show.."
Yep.
Prejudging:
-cheaper
-more bodybuilding, less flash than nite show
i live close to DC..who the fuck wants to drive at nite in DC...
not me...the whole place is 1 big traffic jam.. >:(
plus ya usually know whose gonna win..soo why bother..
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While everyone is welcome to their opinion, I find it ironic that the most vocal critics and "experts" are those that are never at the event???
A promoter is not going to care or seriously consider some tirade from a person that will never buy a ticket and never support or attend an event. Why not try looking at some specific stuff to take issue with.
For example, I enjoyed the Colorado pro show, but would have liked the expo and vendors being part of the contest area.
What is the purpose for endless bashing without substance???
Before joining Getbig all I did was live and breathe bb for myself, but I never attended a show/event...more power to those that do though. After joining Getbig my initial thought was I'd connect with others that share my similar passions....that did happen to some extent. The part I didn't count on was learning about the real bb lifestyle.......now I have little to no interest in competitive bb.....and the irony is Getbig did that for me. The drugs, the g4p, the death, the egos, the eeking through life, the empty promises, the destruction of your body, the true lack of self-esteem in most competitors, etc.....I don't buy mags anymore, I don't watch the competitions, I have no interest in shelling out a dime for merchandise....now I check Arnold results, O results and National results and that's it......for the most part I feel as though I've wasted time investing myself in the sport so heavily when I much more clearly understand how the competitors "do what they do". Hell, I rarely post about bb anymore on Getbig and I never visit any other bb sites like I used to. I enjoy the training and nutrition info here and talkin with other members but that's about it. I've come full circle in my bb experience and I'm right back to where I started......doing it just for me.
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Howie I'm convinced now that you don't see it, but nearly all of your posts these days contain some degree of negativity aimed at modern day bodybuilding. Perhaps it's your need to justify not competing anymore when deep down you wish you were still doing it?
And for someone who claims to have competed 47 million times, I'm still wondering why that damn recent picture of you looking like a bear with your sleeves rolled up standing next to the fence is the picture you're most proud to post. Perhaps showing us (and reminding yourself) what you used to look like would push you over the edge, back into competition, and that's something you're subconsciously trying to avoid? I just wish you'd hurry up and figure out whatever it is you're trying to so you can at least stop making post after aimless post on here, all fucked up with mixed messages.
You really give the impression that you have no idea what you're ever trying to say on here.
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While everyone is welcome to their opinion, I find it ironic that the most vocal critics and "experts" are those that are never at the event???
A promoter is not going to care or seriously consider some tirade from a person that will never buy a ticket and never support or attend an event. Why not try looking at some specific stuff to take issue with.
For example, I enjoyed the Colorado pro show, but would have liked the expo and vendors being part of the contest area.
What is the purpose for endless bashing without substance???
I've been to enough shows to know!
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Before joining Getbig all I did was live and breathe bb for myself, but I never attended a show/event...more power to those that do though. After joining Getbig my initial thought was I'd connect with others that share my similar passions....that did happen to some extent. The part I didn't count on was learning about the real bb lifestyle.......now I have little to no interest in competitive bb.....and the irony is Getbig did that for me. The drugs, the g4p, the death, the egos, the eeking through life, the empty promises, the destruction of your body, the true lack of self-esteem in most competitors, etc.....I don't buy mags anymore, I don't watch the competitions, I have no interest in shelling out a dime for merchandise....now I check Arnold results, O results and National results and that's it......for the most part I feel as though I've wasted time investing myself in the sport so heavily when I much more clearly understand how the competitors "do what they do". Hell, I rarely post about bb anymore on Getbig and I never visit any other bb sites like I used to. I enjoy the training and nutrition info here and talkin with other members but that's about it. I've come full circle in my bb experience and I'm right back to where I started......doing it just for me.
Amen!
That's how I feel as well.
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Before joining Getbig all I did was live and breathe bb for myself, but I never attended a show/event...more power to those that do though. After joining Getbig my initial thought was I'd connect with others that share my similar passions....that did happen to some extent. The part I didn't count on was learning about the real bb lifestyle.......now I have little to no interest in competitive bb.....and the irony is Getbig did that for me. The drugs, the g4p, the death, the egos, the eeking through life, the empty promises, the destruction of your body, the true lack of self-esteem in most competitors, etc.....I don't buy mags anymore, I don't watch the competitions, I have no interest in shelling out a dime for merchandise....now I check Arnold results, O results and National results and that's it......for the most part I feel as though I've wasted time investing myself in the sport so heavily when I much more clearly understand how the competitors "do what they do". Hell, I rarely post about bb anymore on Getbig and I never visit any other bb sites like I used to. I enjoy the training and nutrition info here and talkin with other members but that's about it. I've come full circle in my bb experience and I'm right back to where I started......doing it just for me.
Ditto.
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Amen!
That's how I feel as well.
I have no doubt others do as well. It's initially cool talkin with pros and "experts", but once you get past the facade and add a bit of depth about who these people really are.....well......my previous post outlines my position in general.
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Is it true Howie wants a "Childrens board" and he asked Ron if he could be the Mod??!?
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Is it true Howie wants a "Childrens board" and he asked Ron if he could be the Mod??!?
Something to that effect, why is he getting approved?
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Something to that effect, why is he getting approved?
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Howie isn't the only one that uses negativity around here when talking about modern bodybuilding. There isn't a problem with talking about negative aspects of the sport (too many drugs, bloated bellies, etc.) if they are valid points. However, the problem comes in when people bash for sport with no real objective. Same goes for anyone attacking the guy because of a dumb joke. Everyone has made foolish comments they wish they could take back but that's not what this thread is about. Move on.
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Howie isn't the only one that uses negativity around here when talking about modern bodybuilding. There isn't a problem with talking about negative aspects of the sport (too many drugs, bloated bellies, etc.) if they are valid points. However, the problem comes in when people bash for sport with no real objective. Same goes for anyone attacking the guy because of a dumb joke. Everyone has made foolish comments they wish they could take back but that's not what this thread is about. Move on.
I don't see where someone else's belly size can be used as a legitimate excuse for anyone's not trying to bodybuild themselves, if they were ever drawn to it in the first place. You've gotta have the attitude that you're gonna make out of it whatever you want to. You should look to define the sport, not let the sport define you. And for those that say you've gotta do too much shit now to place well in the NPC or IFBB, well, nobody's ever in this shit for the money anyway. They're here because they wanna be awesome and achieve some degree of semi-celebrity. If it's "too much shit" you feel that someone's making you take, then take a hike...go be a movie star or something. Maybe get a real job. But you know what? You're still not gonna be jacked and that's what you'll miss.
Also Howie acts like he's waiting on the IFBB/NPC to say that drugs are allowed before he's gonna approve of what they're doing or at least quit bitching. Hey, hint hint...you've gotta at least SAY certain things as a sort of disclaimer and to keep the government off your ass. It's irrelevant. Just do whatever you need to do to look the way you wanna look and nobody's gonna say anything, get it? Why need for them to make a formal policy saying, "Hey guys, do all the juice you want; not a problem." Bodybuilding would be shut down quicker than shit! It's all bullshit nitpicking on Howie's part because he needs reason to think he's doing the right thing by just still benching on Mondays and "helping" high school kids pass science tests. He only wants to see himself as having a "casual" interest in the sport when it's very obviously still in his blood.
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Howie..how do you know who does and doesnt go to shows? >:(
and excelent post MOS
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I don't see where someone else's belly size can be used as a legitimate excuse for anyone's not trying to bodybuild themselves, if they were ever drawn to it in the first place. You've gotta have the attitude that you're gonna make out of it whatever you want to. You should look to define the sport, not let the sport define you. And for those that say you've gotta do too much shit now to place well in the NPC or IFBB, well, nobody's ever in this shit for the money anyway. They're here because they wanna be awesome and achieve some degree of semi-celebrity. If it's "too much shit" you feel that someone's making you take, then take a hike...go be a movie star or something. Maybe get a real job. But you know what? You're still not gonna be jacked and that's what you'll miss.
Also Howie acts like he's waiting on the IFBB/NPC to say that drugs are allowed before he's gonna approve of what they're doing or at least quit bitching. Hey, hint hint...you've gotta at least SAY certain things as a sort of disclaimer and to keep the government off your ass. It's irrelevant. Just do whatever you need to do to look the way you wanna look and nobody's gonna say anything, get it? Why need for them to make a formal policy saying, "Hey guys, do all the juice you want; not a problem." Bodybuilding would be shut down quicker than shit! It's all bullshit nitpicking on Howie's part because he needs reason to think he's doing the right thing by just still benching on Mondays and "helping" high school kids pass science tests. He only wants to see himself as having a "casual" interest in the sport when it's very obviously still in his blood.
Sure its' in my blood and yes, I wish I had more discipline to diet at this point in my life, but sadly, I have not.
I also have mixed feelings on the overall world of bodybuilding. Man of Steele wrote a wonderful insightful post on this in this thread for example. I am an idealist and simply would like ths sport to be one that promotes good health along with a great physique. I did compete a bunch of times, but never won any big, national title, just a few Mr Podunks.
As you get older, get into a career and realtionships, etc, the value of your place in bodybuilding contests loses its' luster. So my friend, you are right on the money about my mixed feelings and thanks for pointing out some deep rooted issues about bodybuilding in me.
I am a respected teacher and enjoy teaching as a my career. I also am proud of how I have treated the few woman in my life that I was lucky enough to have love me back. If some knuckleheads want to call me a child abuser hidden behind a fake name on a cpu, all I can do is simply shake my head and wonder . I think,why in the hell would anyone want to do this kind of thing to a regular, working Joe Blow like me is beyond my comprehension. What possible positive gain can they obtain from that except to bring me down...which they won't. My actual record as a man and teacher is pretty decent and I am proud of how I live my life. I served my country as a US marine and help teens as a HS teacher and former coach. I never cheated on either wife and try to live an ethical, decent , modest, humble life.
If you really have an issue with me , contact me with a legit post with your real name attached.
I am not out to kick anyone's azz and at my age am no threat to anyone . It would be nice to simply identify who and what they are and be REASONABLE. Is that too much to ask? Thanks.
As for your view that you need to "cover your ass to avoid the feds", well, I do understand that.
My issue is that the bodybuilders themselves are the only ones hurting their health and possible freesdom.
I think it wrong that one should have to risk their health and breaking drug laws, just to compete fairly in the sport they love.
Man of steele- great post! and thanks Jujoshu.
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this is Getbig Howie.
we don't kiss arse and we don't tolerate those that do.
we are damn well entitled to our opinions and if you fuck with that you better not have skeletons in your closet.
i sure do hope no one reports your ass to the education board bud. ;)
oh btw, Livewire owns you. ;D
Ok it is real simple any knucklehead can post ANYTHING when sitting behind a cpu.
My name is Howard White age 48 and live NW of ATL , Ga.
It is funny how so many that "own" others on this forum don't even post a real identity...cowards ::) ::)
In the end my life is good and I enjoy this forum, all the best, Howard
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no, i never noticed but then i'm not neurotic either
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I'll take bodybuilding for 800$ alex :-\
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What happened at the expo with the Dark Tan people wanting to leave. And why don't the pros who are in the show go to the expo and sign autographs for the fans. This would help the image of BB greatly.
The Darque Tan owner is a classless individual and you won't be seeing him part of any show locally again.
Great idea on the pros going to the expo and signing autographs.
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Why are you divulging your identity now, as if we didn't know it already? ::)
Adonis destroyed you by posting your personal info on MD a while back and he even told us the names of a couple people on your local school board who would decide your fate, if it came to that...
FYI, The state of Ga requires a background check done by the state police to make sure teachers do not have any record of child abuse. I just renewed my certificate and passed obviously.
Look Joey, I am decent man with a wonderful record and rep as a teacher and enjoy a good, yet modest life.
Not sure why you want to make up rumors or have issues with me, but, if it floats your boat, go for it kiddo?
Have a good one buddy, Howard
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"i've been to tonnes of prejudgings..
i've never been to a nite show.."
Yep.
Prejudging:
-cheaper
-more bodybuilding, less flash than nite show
yeah that is a option...I prefer to support the show and buy a nightshow ticket.
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The Darque Tan owner is a classless individual and you won't be seeing him part of any show locally again.
Care to elaborate?
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I've been going to (and promoting and officiating at) bodybuilding contests since 1959 (possibly even earlier) and I often wonder why I still go because I actually have little interest in going to a Pro Event mainly due to the fact that "I've been there. Done that!" and have known the majority of the pros since the mid 60's and have just lost interest in how they place outside of normal life.
I mentioned this a few years back at one of the National Contests and was told that I come back back each year because it is like a high school reunion. And that's about as true as it can be.
Most of the times we don't even see the contest itself. We just gather in the auditorium and talk about the old times when the competitive side of bodybuilding was in its infancy and find out who had recently departed to that Golden Gym up in the sky.
A few years back we were a pretty sizeable group but through the years we have narrowed down to less than a handful. But I'll keep on going back even when I'm the only one remaining with no "high school buddies" to converse with about those days so long ago when Reeves and Yarick and even much later when Strohl and Peanuts and Frenn and Casey and many others were recently out of their teens and doing amazing stuff in the gym and on a stage in the once weird weird world of bodybuilding.
It really was a hell of a lot different way back then.
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I think it wrong that one should have to risk their health and breaking drug laws
Some laws are stupid, and stupid laws were meant to be broken. Anyone who does or doesn't do something just because "it's a law" is a sheep incapable of thinking for himself.
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ask adonis. those punks at MD banned me right around then.
howie made some gross comments - he said he was only kidding - about nailing middle schoolers.
true adonis went too far - posted the comments along with howie's school info (howie is a high school teacher in GA). I dont condone that. But the point was that howard - jokingly - said things about what he would do to the middle school girls.
since true adonis did his thing and outed him, howie got quiet and then started all these threads about positivity. that's cool. but when howie lectures people about how to act - when he himself said gross shit about kids - not cool.
i'm sure if it's not true, howie can deny it right now. howard, did you never say those things? I'm sure TA is dying for a chance to post it again should you deny it.
hahaha i remember that ;D
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Uh, "buddy," I didn't make up anything. It's all public record. About 100 guys over on MD saw you melt down, and witnessed some of the evidence Adonis brought forth.
Pervs like you disgust me.
In the words of Paris Hilton ; "Whatever..."
I am not a pervert or child abuser, and can't fathom why you waste time and energy trying to post crap about a nobody in the sport like me. But whatever floats your boat, see ya
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Dude YOU are the one who was apologizing left and right on the boards when Adonis exposed you. Like I said, MANY of us SAW THE SCREENSHOTS and your original posts. We saw just how perverted your sick mind really is. Adonis took away your manhood and pride and made you run like a little bitch.
Good luck with your life. My comments about this are done. I am no pervert, but feel you are obssessed with me and may be some crazy wacky internet stalker so I will ignore you.
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this joey tito guy obviously had some "bad experiences" as a child :-\
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this joey tito guy obviously had some "bad experiences" as a child :-\
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He seems ok, just got a little carried away with this crap , like any of us can ;)
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Before joining Getbig all I did was live and breathe bb for myself, but I never attended a show/event...more power to those that do though. After joining Getbig my initial thought was I'd connect with others that share my similar passions....that did happen to some extent. The part I didn't count on was learning about the real bb lifestyle.......now I have little to no interest in competitive bb.....and the irony is Getbig did that for me. The drugs, the g4p, the death, the egos, the eeking through life, the empty promises, the destruction of your body, the true lack of self-esteem in most competitors, etc.....I don't buy mags anymore, I don't watch the competitions, I have no interest in shelling out a dime for merchandise....now I check Arnold results, O results and National results and that's it......for the most part I feel as though I've wasted time investing myself in the sport so heavily when I much more clearly understand how the competitors "do what they do". Hell, I rarely post about bb anymore on Getbig and I never visit any other bb sites like I used to. I enjoy the training and nutrition info here and talkin with other members but that's about it. I've come full circle in my bb experience and I'm right back to where I started......doing it just for me.
great post. you should make this a thread.
I feel the same way. I have come full circle. I too bought into the bullshit the industry fed me. I think what did it for me was seeing the shape of most pros off juice. That made me realize all the bullshit supplement companies and mags were promoting. What lies. Too bad.
The internet is destroying Bodybuilding the way it destroyed Scientolgy. Good people are coming forward and exposing the lies and corruption behind these behomeths. Bodybuilding and Scientology are very similiar, they are both highly controlled organizations that intimidate and bully anyone that tells the truth. They both prey on young desperate kids and feed them a line of bullshit to get them suckered in and then continue to take their money by making false promises and selling lies. They both bully and blackmail members into testifying for them and doing their dirty work. They are both run by a small group of greedy corrupt people who have no morals or ethics. They are both being exposed on the internet.
The internet aside from its crass commercialism has done some actual good.
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Attending a show would be a waste of time..
Bodybuilding is a hobby for most here who have careers and other priorities.
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The internet is destroying Bodybuilding the way it destroyed Scientolgy. Good people are coming forward and exposing the lies and corruption behind these behomeths. Bodybuilding and Scientology are very similiar, they are both highly controlled organizations that intimidate and bully anyone that tells the truth. They both prey on young desperate kids and feed them a line of bullshit to get them suckered in and then continue to take their money by making false promises and selling lies. They both bully and blackmail members into testifying for them and doing their dirty work. They are both run by a small group of greedy corrupt people who have no morals or ethics. They are both being exposed on the internet.
interesting points.
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The internet is destroying Bodybuilding the way it destroyed Scientolgy. Good people are coming forward and exposing the lies and corruption behind these behomeths. Bodybuilding and Scientology are very similiar, they are both highly controlled organizations that intimidate and bully anyone that tells the truth. They both prey on young desperate kids and feed them a line of bullshit to get them suckered in and then continue to take their money by making false promises and selling lies. They both bully and blackmail members into testifying for them and doing their dirty work. They are both run by a small group of greedy corrupt people who have no morals or ethics. They are both being exposed on the internet.
That's a good thing. Getbig is what it is due to the honesty!
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about his child abusing shiit....Its got to stop here, and I am suprised Ron lets it continue. If he did indeed post something inappropriate the moderators should have caught it and deleted it and removed him, if they did not they need to be retrained.
Accusing someone of something this heinous is a serious crime in itself. There are a lot of innocent men who lives were ruined during the child abuse hysteria of the late 80's and early 90's. Janet Reno, then Chief Prosecuter in Dade County in Florida put many innocent men behind bars because she bought into the hysteria. She believed crack pot child 'therapists' who coereced children into lying and of course she wanted to make a name for herself at their expense. These poor men (and women) are finally having their convictions overturned and are getting out now but their lives are ruined.
We need to find a solution to pedophilia, but what scientist or doctor would want to touch it, when there are hysterical people out there making false accusations at the drop of a hat. If people are really concerned about child molestation they should be looking to science to find a cure or at least a succeessful treatment. But nobody wants to get involved, nobody wants to touch it. The hysteria and false accusations have to stop. Too many innocent men and women have been falsely accused.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terror/etc/synopsis.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terror/cases/snowden.html
http://www.ags.uci.edu/~dehill/witchhunt/cases/country_walk/reno_ph.htm (from Penthouse)
http://www.oranous.com/innocence/FrankFuster/mediacoverage.html
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great post. you should make this a thread.
I feel the same way. I have come full circle. I too bought into the bullshit the industry fed me. I think what did it for me was seeing the shape of most pros off juice. That made me realize all the bullshit supplement companies and mags were promoting. What lies. Too bad.
The internet is destroying Bodybuilding the way it destroyed Scientolgy. Good people are coming forward and exposing the lies and corruption behind these behomeths. Bodybuilding and Scientology are very similiar, they are both highly controlled organizations that intimidate and bully anyone that tells the truth. They both prey on young desperate kids and feed them a line of bullshit to get them suckered in and then continue to take their money by making false promises and selling lies. They both bully and blackmail members into testifying for them and doing their dirty work. They are both run by a small group of greedy corrupt people who have no morals or ethics. They are both being exposed on the internet.
The internet aside from its crass commercialism has done some actual good.
His post was excellent but in my opinion much of the negative atmosphere on the boards comes from those tha never compete or even attend shows.
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His post was excellent but in my opinion much of the negative atmosphere on the boards comes from those tha never compete or even attend shows.
True, but it is also true that most people that go to shows are somehow vested in the industry in some form or another and their view of it is highly biased. The audience is made up of photographers (amatuer and pro), competitors and would be and wanna be competitors and buisness men, gym owners, sponsors etc.. Not a very subjective group.
One thing i do agree is that pictures on the internet do not give a fair view of a competitors actual physique in person. Competitors should really not be judged to harshly by a photograph and if people really want to critique a physique they should see it in person on stage.
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great post. you should make this a thread.
I feel the same way. I have come full circle. I too bought into the bullshit the industry fed me. I think what did it for me was seeing the shape of most pros off juice. That made me realize all the bullshit supplement companies and mags were promoting. What lies. Too bad.
The internet is destroying Bodybuilding the way it destroyed Scientolgy. Good people are coming forward and exposing the lies and corruption behind these behomeths. Bodybuilding and Scientology are very similiar, they are both highly controlled organizations that intimidate and bully anyone that tells the truth. They both prey on young desperate kids and feed them a line of bullshit to get them suckered in and then continue to take their money by making false promises and selling lies. They both bully and blackmail members into testifying for them and doing their dirty work. They are both run by a small group of greedy corrupt people who have no morals or ethics. They are both being exposed on the internet.
The internet aside from its crass commercialism has done some actual good.
MOS is pretty much on with his post, most of the reasons he said is the reason I stopped competing in 91'. If you've kept up with it for as long as I have, you can see a steady moral decline over the years, and hang on.........it's only going to get worse. As for the G4P, it's an excuse for bodybuilders who say they're straight to come out of the closet and express they're true sexuality and the fact they are just to damn lazy to get a decent job, it's a sad situation fellas!
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Howie,
you seem pretty cool and you handled the backlash with some class. i do hope you're sincere about the kiddie stuff, but i'll take your word for it.
the problem I have is you bashing opinions. what i like about this board is that it is largely uncensored. i don't agree with some opinions here, but if there is one thing that will never ever become redundant and that is the right of expression of opinion.
guess what, if bodybuilding contests couldn't be judged/analysed/disected, etc after the show there would be no more shows! or maybe you didn't notice how few were in the audience.
corporate bbing would go out of business real quick.
put it this way, at a boxing/mma match i can guarantee you that 99% of the paying customers, including those in the audience, have NEVER had a single bout, yet every one of them has an opinion. they will tell you what this guy should of done, what he did wrong, etc, etc, but the simple irrefutable fact is that most of them wouldn't have the foggiest idea.
does that mean they are not entitled to an opinion? hell no, they are the paying customers, they are the reason why we have the bout in the first place. of course their opinion matters.
gotta take the good with the bad Howie and that's why Getbig is cool.