Author Topic: Ever notice that the most negative posts come from those that don't attend?  (Read 5609 times)

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"i've been to tonnes of prejudgings..

i've never been to a nite show.."


Yep.

Prejudging:

-cheaper
-more bodybuilding, less flash than nite show

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"i've been to tonnes of prejudgings..

i've never been to a nite show.."


Yep.

Prejudging:

-cheaper
-more bodybuilding, less flash than nite show

i live close to DC..who the fuck wants to drive at nite in DC...

not me...the whole place is 1 big traffic jam.. >:(


plus ya usually know whose gonna win..soo why bother..
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While everyone is welcome to their opinion, I find it ironic that the most vocal critics and "experts" are those that are never at the event???
A promoter is not going to care or seriously consider some tirade from a person that will never buy a ticket and never support or attend an event. Why not try looking at some specific stuff to take issue with.
For example, I enjoyed the Colorado pro show, but would have liked the expo and vendors being part of the contest area.
What is the purpose for endless bashing without substance???

Before joining Getbig all I did was live and breathe bb for myself, but I never attended a show/event...more power to those that do though.   After joining Getbig my initial thought was I'd connect with others that share my similar passions....that did happen to some extent.   The part I didn't count on was learning about the real bb lifestyle.......now I have little to no interest in competitive bb.....and the irony is Getbig did that for me.   The drugs, the g4p, the death, the egos, the eeking through life, the empty promises, the destruction of your body, the true lack of self-esteem in most competitors, etc.....I don't buy mags anymore, I don't watch the competitions, I have no interest in shelling out a dime for merchandise....now I check Arnold results, O results and National results and that's it......for the most part I feel as though I've wasted time investing myself in the sport so heavily when I much more clearly understand how the competitors "do what they do".  Hell, I rarely post about bb anymore on Getbig and I never visit any other bb sites like I used to.   I enjoy the training and nutrition info here and talkin with other members but that's about it.   I've come full circle in my bb experience and I'm right back to where I started......doing it just for me. 

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Howie I'm convinced now that you don't see it, but nearly all of your posts these days contain some degree of negativity aimed at modern day bodybuilding.  Perhaps it's your need to justify not competing anymore when deep down you wish you were still doing it?

And for someone who claims to have competed 47 million times, I'm still wondering why that damn recent picture of you looking like a bear with your sleeves rolled up standing next to the fence is the picture you're most proud to post.  Perhaps showing us (and reminding yourself) what you used to look like would push you over the edge, back into competition, and that's something you're subconsciously trying to avoid?  I just wish you'd hurry up and figure out whatever it is you're trying to so you can at least stop making post after aimless post on here, all fucked up with mixed messages.

You really give the impression that you have no idea what you're ever trying to say on here.         

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While everyone is welcome to their opinion, I find it ironic that the most vocal critics and "experts" are those that are never at the event???
A promoter is not going to care or seriously consider some tirade from a person that will never buy a ticket and never support or attend an event. Why not try looking at some specific stuff to take issue with.
For example, I enjoyed the Colorado pro show, but would have liked the expo and vendors being part of the contest area.
What is the purpose for endless bashing without substance???

I've been to enough shows to know!

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Before joining Getbig all I did was live and breathe bb for myself, but I never attended a show/event...more power to those that do though.   After joining Getbig my initial thought was I'd connect with others that share my similar passions....that did happen to some extent.   The part I didn't count on was learning about the real bb lifestyle.......now I have little to no interest in competitive bb.....and the irony is Getbig did that for me.   The drugs, the g4p, the death, the egos, the eeking through life, the empty promises, the destruction of your body, the true lack of self-esteem in most competitors, etc.....I don't buy mags anymore, I don't watch the competitions, I have no interest in shelling out a dime for merchandise....now I check Arnold results, O results and National results and that's it......for the most part I feel as though I've wasted time investing myself in the sport so heavily when I much more clearly understand how the competitors "do what they do".  Hell, I rarely post about bb anymore on Getbig and I never visit any other bb sites like I used to.   I enjoy the training and nutrition info here and talkin with other members but that's about it.   I've come full circle in my bb experience and I'm right back to where I started......doing it just for me. 

Amen!


That's how I feel as well.
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Before joining Getbig all I did was live and breathe bb for myself, but I never attended a show/event...more power to those that do though.   After joining Getbig my initial thought was I'd connect with others that share my similar passions....that did happen to some extent.   The part I didn't count on was learning about the real bb lifestyle.......now I have little to no interest in competitive bb.....and the irony is Getbig did that for me.   The drugs, the g4p, the death, the egos, the eeking through life, the empty promises, the destruction of your body, the true lack of self-esteem in most competitors, etc.....I don't buy mags anymore, I don't watch the competitions, I have no interest in shelling out a dime for merchandise....now I check Arnold results, O results and National results and that's it......for the most part I feel as though I've wasted time investing myself in the sport so heavily when I much more clearly understand how the competitors "do what they do".  Hell, I rarely post about bb anymore on Getbig and I never visit any other bb sites like I used to.   I enjoy the training and nutrition info here and talkin with other members but that's about it.   I've come full circle in my bb experience and I'm right back to where I started......doing it just for me. 

Ditto.

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Amen!


That's how I feel as well.

I have no doubt others do as well.    It's initially cool talkin with pros and "experts", but once you get past the facade and add a bit of depth about who these people really are.....well......my previous post outlines my position in general.

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Is it true Howie wants a "Childrens board" and he asked Ron if he could be the Mod??!?

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Is it true Howie wants a "Childrens board" and he asked Ron if he could be the Mod??!?

Something to that effect, why is he getting approved?

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Something to that effect, why is he getting approved?




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Howie isn't the only one that uses negativity around here when talking about modern bodybuilding. There isn't a problem with talking about negative aspects of the sport (too many drugs, bloated bellies, etc.) if they are valid points. However, the problem comes in when people bash for sport with no real objective. Same goes for anyone attacking the guy because of a dumb joke. Everyone has made foolish comments they wish they could take back but that's not what this thread is about. Move on.

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Howie isn't the only one that uses negativity around here when talking about modern bodybuilding. There isn't a problem with talking about negative aspects of the sport (too many drugs, bloated bellies, etc.) if they are valid points. However, the problem comes in when people bash for sport with no real objective. Same goes for anyone attacking the guy because of a dumb joke. Everyone has made foolish comments they wish they could take back but that's not what this thread is about. Move on.

I don't see where someone else's belly size can be used as a legitimate excuse for anyone's not trying to bodybuild themselves, if they were ever drawn to it in the first place.  You've gotta have the attitude that you're gonna make out of it whatever you want to.  You should look to define the sport, not let the sport define you.  And for those that say you've gotta do too much shit now to place well in the NPC or IFBB, well, nobody's ever in this shit for the money anyway.  They're here because they wanna be awesome and achieve some degree of semi-celebrity.  If it's "too much shit" you feel that someone's making you take, then take a hike...go be a movie star or something.  Maybe get a real job.  But you know what?  You're still not gonna be jacked and that's what you'll miss.     

Also Howie acts like he's waiting on the IFBB/NPC to say that drugs are allowed before he's gonna approve of what they're doing or at least quit bitching.  Hey, hint hint...you've gotta at least SAY certain things as a sort of disclaimer and to keep the government off your ass.  It's irrelevant.  Just do whatever you need to do to look the way you wanna look and nobody's gonna say anything, get it?  Why need for them to make a formal policy saying, "Hey guys, do all the juice you want; not a problem."  Bodybuilding would be shut down quicker than shit!  It's all bullshit nitpicking on Howie's part because he needs reason to think he's doing the right thing by just still benching on Mondays and "helping" high school kids pass science tests.  He only wants to see himself as having a "casual" interest in the sport when it's very obviously still in his blood.     

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Howie..how do you know who does and doesnt go to shows?     >:(               



and excelent post MOS
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I don't see where someone else's belly size can be used as a legitimate excuse for anyone's not trying to bodybuild themselves, if they were ever drawn to it in the first place.  You've gotta have the attitude that you're gonna make out of it whatever you want to.  You should look to define the sport, not let the sport define you.  And for those that say you've gotta do too much shit now to place well in the NPC or IFBB, well, nobody's ever in this shit for the money anyway.  They're here because they wanna be awesome and achieve some degree of semi-celebrity.  If it's "too much shit" you feel that someone's making you take, then take a hike...go be a movie star or something.  Maybe get a real job.  But you know what?  You're still not gonna be jacked and that's what you'll miss.     

Also Howie acts like he's waiting on the IFBB/NPC to say that drugs are allowed before he's gonna approve of what they're doing or at least quit bitching.  Hey, hint hint...you've gotta at least SAY certain things as a sort of disclaimer and to keep the government off your ass.  It's irrelevant.  Just do whatever you need to do to look the way you wanna look and nobody's gonna say anything, get it?  Why need for them to make a formal policy saying, "Hey guys, do all the juice you want; not a problem."  Bodybuilding would be shut down quicker than shit!  It's all bullshit nitpicking on Howie's part because he needs reason to think he's doing the right thing by just still benching on Mondays and "helping" high school kids pass science tests.  He only wants to see himself as having a "casual" interest in the sport when it's very obviously still in his blood.     

Sure its' in my blood and yes, I wish I had more discipline to diet at this point in my life, but sadly, I have not.
I also have mixed feelings on the overall world of bodybuilding. Man of Steele wrote a wonderful insightful post on this in this thread for example. I am an idealist and simply would like ths sport to be one that promotes good health along with a great physique. I did compete a bunch of times, but never won any big, national title, just a  few Mr Podunks.
As you get older, get into a career and realtionships, etc, the value of your place in bodybuilding contests loses its' luster. So my friend, you are right on the money about my mixed feelings and thanks for pointing out some deep rooted issues about bodybuilding in me.

I am a respected teacher and enjoy teaching as a my career. I also am proud of how I have treated the few woman in my life that I was lucky enough to have love me back. If some knuckleheads want to call me a child abuser hidden behind a fake name on a cpu, all I can do is simply shake my head and wonder . I think,why in the hell would anyone want to do this kind of thing to a regular, working Joe Blow like me is beyond my comprehension. What possible positive gain can they obtain from that except to bring me down...which they won't. My actual record as a man and teacher is pretty decent and I am proud of how I live my life. I served my country as a US marine and help teens as a HS teacher and former coach. I never cheated on either wife and try to live an ethical, decent , modest, humble life.
If you really have an issue with me , contact me with a legit post with your real name attached.
I am not out to kick anyone's azz and at  my age am no threat to anyone . It would be nice to simply identify who and what they are and be REASONABLE. Is that too much to ask? Thanks.

As for your view that you need to "cover your ass to avoid the feds", well, I do understand that.
My issue is that the bodybuilders themselves are the  only ones hurting their health and possible freesdom.
I think it wrong that one should have to risk their health and breaking drug laws, just to compete fairly in the sport they love.

Man of steele- great post!  and thanks Jujoshu.
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this is Getbig Howie.

we don't kiss arse and we don't tolerate those that do.

we are damn well entitled to our opinions and if you fuck with that you better not have skeletons in your closet.

i sure do hope no one reports your ass to the education board bud. ;)

oh btw, Livewire owns you. ;D


Ok it is real simple  any knucklehead can post ANYTHING when sitting behind a cpu.
My name is Howard White age 48 and live NW of ATL , Ga.
It is funny how so many that "own" others on this forum don't even post a real identity...cowards ::) ::)
In the end my life is good and I enjoy this forum, all the best, Howard
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What happened at the expo with the Dark Tan people wanting to leave.  And why don't the pros who are in the show go to the expo and sign autographs for the fans.  This would help the image of BB greatly.
The Darque Tan owner is a classless individual and you won't be seeing him part of any show locally again.

Great idea on the pros going to the expo and signing autographs.

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Why are you divulging your identity now, as if we didn't know it already?  ::)

Adonis destroyed you by posting your personal info on MD a while back and he even told us the names of a couple people on your local school board who would decide your fate, if it came to that...

FYI, The state of Ga requires a background check done by the state police to make sure teachers do not have any record of child abuse. I just renewed my certificate and passed obviously.
Look Joey, I am decent man with a wonderful record and rep as a teacher and enjoy a good, yet modest life.
Not sure why you want to make up rumors or have issues with me, but, if it floats your boat, go for it kiddo?
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"i've been to tonnes of prejudgings..

i've never been to a nite show.."


Yep.

Prejudging:

-cheaper
-more bodybuilding, less flash than nite show
yeah that is a option...I prefer to support the show and buy a nightshow ticket.
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The Darque Tan owner is a classless individual and you won't be seeing him part of any show locally again.



Care to elaborate?
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I've been going to (and promoting and officiating at) bodybuilding contests since 1959 (possibly even earlier) and I often wonder why I still go because I actually have little interest in going to a Pro Event mainly due to the fact that "I've been there. Done that!" and have known the majority of the pros since the mid 60's and have just lost interest in how they place outside of normal life.

I mentioned this a few years back at one of the National Contests and was told that I come back back each year because it is like a high school reunion. And that's about as true as it can be.

Most of the times we don't even see the contest itself. We just gather in the auditorium and talk about the old times when the competitive side of bodybuilding was in its infancy and find out who had recently departed to that Golden Gym up in the sky.

A few years back we were a pretty sizeable group but through the years we have narrowed down to less than a handful. But I'll keep on going back even when I'm the only one remaining  with no "high school buddies" to converse with about those days so long ago when Reeves and Yarick and even much later when Strohl and Peanuts and Frenn and Casey and many others were recently out of their teens and doing amazing stuff in the gym and on a stage in the once weird weird world of bodybuilding.

It really was a hell of a lot different way back then.


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I think it wrong that one should have to risk their health and breaking drug laws



Some laws are stupid, and stupid laws were meant to be broken.  Anyone who does or doesn't do something just because "it's a law" is a sheep incapable of thinking for himself.
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ask adonis.  those punks at MD banned me right around then.  

howie made some gross comments - he said he was only kidding - about nailing middle schoolers.

true adonis went too far - posted the comments along with howie's school info (howie is a high school teacher in GA).  I dont condone that.  But the point was that howard - jokingly - said things about what he would do to the middle school girls.  

since true adonis did his thing and outed him, howie got quiet and then started all these threads about positivity.  that's cool.  but when howie lectures people about how to act - when he himself said gross shit about kids - not cool.

i'm sure if it's not true, howie can deny it right now.  howard, did you never say those things?  I'm sure TA is dying for a chance to post it again should you deny it.
hahaha i remember that  ;D

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