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hahhahahahhaahahahhaaha. ..nice barbell row by his spotter
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i still say those plates aren't real, look at it this way even Ronnie Coleman couldn't come close to that even with the spotters, if this guy can really bench 675 like it's nothing why are his arms only 17 inches? come on you can tell the way he lays down on the bench that he isn't taking it seriously.
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Complete bullshit. When he first grabs the bar, look how easy he's sliding the bar across the uprights. No way you're doing that with that much real weight.
My question is where the fuck are these guys getting fakes plates from and who the hell sells fake plates?
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i still say those plates aren't real, look at it this way even Ronnie Coleman couldn't come close to that even with the spotters, if this guy can really bench 675 like it's nothing why are his arms only 17 inches? come on you can tell the way he lays down on the bench that he isn't taking it seriously.
i have a feeling its rubber plates too...even with the help by his three spotters...no way a guy his size can even rack 675
there's a video of him struggling to get 6 reps (without a spotter) with 315
check out his squat video of 765 ATG...no way this shit is real
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hahahahah, check this out, looks like the same gym and same type of plates and another muscleless jackass pressing big weight, those plates ain't 45 pounds.
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as fake as his natural claim
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yeah those plates are 20-25 pounds which would make the weight around 325-350 still good weight but nowhere near 675.
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hahahahahhaha as if this little fart can do 315.
fake fake and FAKE!!!
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Complete bullshit. When he first grabs the bar, look how easy he's sliding the bar across the uprights. No way you're doing that with that much real weight.
My question is where the fuck are these guys getting fakes plates from and who the hell sells fake plates?
Good point. With that kind of weight........not easy to move like that.
As far as fake plates go, ask the guys at Flex mag, or even a schmoe like Tre. Schmoefathers like to use fake plates for shoots, as I guess they turn on the schmoes to see the muscle beasts lift big weights.....
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hahahahahhaha as if this little fart can do 315.
fake fake and FAKE!!!
hahahah, not only 315 but 315 for 8-10 reps with 12 and a half inch arms, hahahahaha.
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hahahahaha, here's another "beast" from the same gym pumping 500 lbs. for a couple of reps with 16 inch arms, hahahaha, shit this gym is right up there with Westside Barbell. ;D
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hahahaha, watch the way his gay lover Brad spots the weight, he doesn't even lift it off the rack and when he's in mid rep he's looking across the gym, hahahha, fake as the day is long.
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hahahahaha, here's another "beast" from the same gym pumping 500 lbs. for a couple of reps with 16 inch arms, hahahaha, shit this gym is right up there with Westside Barbell. ;D
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hahahaha, watch the way his gay lover Brad spots the weight, he doesn't even lift it off the rack and when he's in mid rep he's looking across the gym, hahahha, fake as the day is long.
JEESUS!!!!!!!!!
Fucking all world class benchers..... ::)
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hahahahaha, another 13 inch armed beast pressing 405. ;D :o
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same gym, same plates. ::)
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hahahahahha, and yet ANOTHER ONE ::) same gym, same plates, 500 for 2. ;D
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another "monster", 405 for 6 easy as pie, same gym, same plates. ;D
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Do these "spotters" ever take their hands off the damn bar.
These are pathetic.
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hahahahah, check this out, looks like the same gym and same type of plates and another muscleless jackass pressing big weight, those plates ain't 45 pounds.
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I love how these guys with no fucking chest or arms to speak are throwing around max number for natural..
these fucker couldn't even do 225 for 5
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HAAHAHAAAAHAHAHHHHAAAA I bet Dante is cursing the moment he decided to use that guy as an example...
He posts Youtube videos for the "haters".... hmmmm I wonder where we've seen that before...
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Why do people post fake videos??? What kind of personal satisfaction would you get from posting fake shit??
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HAAHAHAAAAHAHAHHHHAAAA I bet Dante is cursing the moment he decided to use that guy as an example...
He posts Youtube videos for the "haters".... hmmmm I wonder where we've seen that before...
Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF
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brad looks like he just took a bong rip, now hes gonna see how much weight he can lift.
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I really doubt he's natural. In the video where he talks about being natural he sounds like he's lying.
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If he's natural then he would be stronger than Ronnie Coleman on steroids. He's already lifting weights comparable to Ronnie.
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I really doubt he's natural. In the video where he talks about being natural he sounds like he's lying.
i think hes just one on those big stron hillbilly type u see every so often
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I wonder how much he can lift for 1 clean rep
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Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF
I meant his immaturity and the fact that he put up a video for the "haters"... how immature...
Remember when people were doubting Steve and Justin? They were both top-notch class acts and didn't feel compelled to address the haters in any way...
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I have some of those plates.. We use them for practice on deads or whatever.. They weigh 5 pounds..
We Freak the new people out by throwing the plates at them.. funny as hell..
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I have some of those plates.. We use them for practice on deads or whatever.. They weigh 5 pounds..
We Freak the new people out by throwing the plates at them.. funny as hell..
Looks like you know how to bring new clients, your gym must be a success ;D
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Looks like you know how to bring new clients, your gym must be a success ;D
The older ladies don't ever find it funny though..
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I have some of those plates.. We use them for practice on deads or whatever.. They weigh 5 pounds..
We Freak the new people out by throwing the plates at them.. funny as hell..
mmmm...if that were the case, that guy would have approx. 35lbs on each side
1) the bar is bending (fake bar too?)
2) the spotter in the middle needs an academy award for acting (cause hes pullin' his ass off to get that up)
i dont think hes doing 675lbs....i dont think hes doing 115lbs either
either way....who really cares.....
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I'll take a pic of these plates tomorrow.. They look exactly the same..
Check the close-up rubber weights with the spotter pulling most the weight again..
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lmao at dante saying brads a natural
the guys on more sauce then jack lalanne power juicer...theres a musclemania video of him talking about people who take steriods, and he calls them cheaters and lazy people with a little shiteating smirk on his face. lol he couldn't even look in the camera when he was talking about steriods.
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he must work out with her....
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that lift would not be recognized by any legitimate lifting organization. He is clearly being assisted and he never completes an actual full rep. The bar doesn't move more than an inch under his own power and that motion is on the decent.
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These guys have no idea what a proper bench press is. Bench pressing with clinical form and complete control is very, very taxing on your pecs, front deltoids and nervous system. Guys are shocked when I explain to them what proper benching is, and they realize that they have barely 40% of the strengh they thought they had.
To do a proper bench press, grasp the bar at 75º angle from the delts and lower the bar until it touches your medial pectoralis right above the nipples, then explode in a controlled fashion during the concentric part of the rep until your elbows lock. Following this, lower the bar slowly in the eccentric while controlling the weight with your pecs and not delts and tris. Repeat.
Trust me, doing bench presses like this is the ultimate pec exercise - only the parallel bar dip compares - and it works your tris better than any triceps exercise you could imagine. I am a very strong guy, but I can barely bench 3 plates a side with this super-strict technique and full range of motion. My one rep max in the bench is only four plates a side.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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scot mendelson has the world raw record of 715.
he weighs about 400 lbs, eats plenty of anadrol and halo's and has spent his entire life benching.
why does ANYONE think that a non powerlifter and natural could be anywhere close to scot's numbers.
this fucking mo is only 40 pounds off from mendy's record. - with the countless # of bbers, powerlifters, and strongmen no where close to a 700 raw bench.
get the fuck out of here.
there are def. freaky strong people.
but world class strength is something entirely different.
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he isnt natural, and that isnt 700 pounds imo.
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hahahahaha, here's another "beast" from the same gym pumping 500 lbs. for a couple of reps with 16 inch arms, hahahaha, shit this gym is right up there with Westside Barbell. ;D
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hahahaha, watch the way his gay lover Brad spots the weight, he doesn't even lift it off the rack and when he's in mid rep he's looking across the gym, hahahha, fake as the day is long.
Looks like they have those kind of plastic weights Olympic Weightlifting coaches uses for their noobies. At least on the inside of the barbell.
Here's the flaming fag Castleberry:
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We had plates like those at my old gym for olympic movements. rubber 25 pounders...
You can tell by the way the kids are acting it's all fake.
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Regardless of his strength, size, genetics, lifts, attitude, etc, this Castleberry kid definitely scores pretty high on the gaydar...
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This dingleberry is the next derek anthony...........g4p... :-X
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i still say those plates aren't real, look at it this way even Ronnie Coleman couldn't come close to that even with the spotters, if this guy can really bench 675 like it's nothing why are his arms only 17 inches? come on you can tell the way he lays down on the bench that he isn't taking it seriously.
WHAT THE FUCK DOES RONNIE COLEMAN HAVE TO DO WITH THIS????
RONNIE COLEMAN IS A BODYBUILDER WHO IS VERY STRONG...NOT A POWERLIFTER!!!!!...
BUT JUST TO MAKE NOTE OF IT...HAVE YOU EVER SEEN RONNIE COLEMAN BENCH???...NO YOU HAVEN'T, SO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF HE CAN DO THIS WEIGHT OR NOT? GIVEN THE MONSTROUS WEIGHTS HE HANDLES WITH LEGS, SHOULDERS, BACK, ETC I WOULD NOT BET THE FARM THAT HE CAN'T DO IT....AND GET REPS WITH IT.
THIS GUY IN THIS VIDEO IS GETTING TREMENDOUS HELP FROM THRE SPOTTERS AND EVEN THEN JUST BARELY MADE IT....
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WHAT THE FUCK DOES RONNIE COLEMAN HAVE TO DO WITH THIS????
RONNIE COLEMAN IS A BODYBUILDER WHO IS VERY STRONG...NOT A POWERLIFTER!!!!!...
BUT JUST TO MAKE NOTE OF IT...HAVE YOU EVER SEEN RONNIE COLEMAN BENCH???...NO YOU HAVEN'T, SO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF HE CAN DO THIS WEIGHT OR NOT? GIVEN THE MONSTROUS WEIGHTS HE HANDLES WITH LEGS, SHOULDERS, BACK, ETC I WOULD NOT BET THE FARM THAT HE CAN'T DO IT....AND GET REPS WITH IT.
THIS GUY IN THIS VIDEO IS GETTING TREMENDOUS HELP FROM THRE SPOTTERS AND EVEN THEN JUST BARELY MADE IT....
Capital Meltdown.
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HAHAHAHAAA Samson123 is most probably one of those balding, fat, 50-year-old muscle worshipers who's never picked up a weight in his life, and lusts after Bradley Castleberry and wants to sniff his sweaty soiled jocks...
Hey Samson123, how much did Bradley charge you for his workout underwear?
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Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF
i'm calling bullshit on you and every one of those lifts, no way those plates are 45 pounds, there is no way on earth that that many skinny average guys bench press 405-600 pounds in one gym, you're full of shit, the respect i once had for you is gone now with you lying like that for these clowns.
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WHAT THE FUCK DOES RONNIE COLEMAN HAVE TO DO WITH THIS????
RONNIE COLEMAN IS A BODYBUILDER WHO IS VERY STRONG...NOT A POWERLIFTER!!!!!...
BUT JUST TO MAKE NOTE OF IT...HAVE YOU EVER SEEN RONNIE COLEMAN BENCH???...NO YOU HAVEN'T, SO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF HE CAN DO THIS WEIGHT OR NOT? GIVEN THE MONSTROUS WEIGHTS HE HANDLES WITH LEGS, SHOULDERS, BACK, ETC I WOULD NOT BET THE FARM THAT HE CAN'T DO IT....AND GET REPS WITH IT.
THIS GUY IN THIS VIDEO IS GETTING TREMENDOUS HELP FROM THRE SPOTTERS AND EVEN THEN JUST BARELY MADE IT....
hahahahahaha, caps lock meltdown, BTW when my friend and i met Coleman at a show a few years ago he told us that the most he ever benched was 565 for a very hard single.
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i cant wait till 'brad' has an injury from lifting all this 'heavy' shit.... I rather look like i can move big wieght than actually do so...
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i cant wait till 'brad' has an injury from lifting all this 'heavy' shit.... I rather look like i can move big wieght than actually do so...
that's the thing though he's NOT LIFTING that much weight, the plates are obviously 20-25 pounds apiece.
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I hope they bring plastic plates to my gym one day I want to see what it looks like to bench press 1000.... ;D Bunch of tap out and beanie wearing wastes of space.
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clearly this guy is a bitch.
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where is this gym?
i need to hit some new PR's!
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where is this gym?
i need to hit some new PR's!
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hahahahaha, exactly, now everyone can push "600 pounds" for reps. ;D
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that's the thing though he's NOT LIFTING that much weight, the plates are obviously 20-25 pounds apiece.
My guess is that perhaps a few of them are 45'ers. But most of them are not.
Dante Doggcrapp: If you work out at the same gym as these posers, I'm sure you could verify that there are 5 lbs and 10 lbs plastic plates, looking like 45 lbs, used for technique training.
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My guess is that perhaps a few of them are 45'ers. But most of them are not.
Dante Doggcrapp: If you work out at the same gym as these posers, I'm sure you could verify that there are 5 lbs and 10 lbs plastic plates, looking like 45 lbs, used for technique training.
-Hedge
exactly hedge, either those plates are fake or these guys are taking a magic supplement that gives you superhuman strength in the chest, shoulders and triceps with out increasing their size at all and allowing you to push huge weights with 14-15 inch arms.
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Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF
Yeah, he is 240 at 5 10 and he is natural. SURE HE IS ::)
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WHAT THE FUCK DOES RONNIE COLEMAN HAVE TO DO WITH THIS????
RONNIE COLEMAN IS A BODYBUILDER WHO IS VERY STRONG...NOT A POWERLIFTER!!!!!...
BUT JUST TO MAKE NOTE OF IT...HAVE YOU EVER SEEN RONNIE COLEMAN BENCH???...NO YOU HAVEN'T, SO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF HE CAN DO THIS WEIGHT OR NOT? GIVEN THE MONSTROUS WEIGHTS HE HANDLES WITH LEGS, SHOULDERS, BACK, ETC I WOULD NOT BET THE FARM THAT HE CAN'T DO IT....AND GET REPS WITH IT.
THIS GUY IN THIS VIDEO IS GETTING TREMENDOUS HELP FROM THRE SPOTTERS AND EVEN THEN JUST BARELY MADE IT....
It sounds like you aren't aware that he was a powerlifter before he started bodybuilding
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exactly hedge, either those plates are fake or these guys are taking a magic supplement that gives you superhuman strength in the chest, shoulders and triceps with out increasing their size at all and allowing you to push huge weights with 14-15 inch arms.
I agree, i could only see 2 plates on each side that looked slightly real. I would love it if somebody in one of these videos came up while they were filming and called them on their shit
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Well I just got online and get the typical email saying "Dante check this out"...I've already said this :"Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF"
Im going to do this very very simply
my first question:
1) Who here lives in the SoCal/San Diego area (or if not, who on this board do you trust in his word.... that lives in the SoCal area?)
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Well I just got online and get the typical email saying "Dante check this out"...I've already said this :"Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF"
Im going to do this very very simply
my first question:
1) Who here lives in the SoCal/San Diego area (or if not, who on this board do you trust in his word.... that lives in the SoCal area?)
hey Dante check out the V board, i started a thread absolutely destroying you but the mods moved it over there, you're being owned as we speak.
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Regardless of his strength, size, genetics, lifts, attitude, etc, this Castleberry kid definitely scores pretty high on the gaydar...
Are you saying he's a front runner for the "Golden Dildo" award?
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hey Dante check out the V board, i started a thread absolutely destroying you but the mods moved it over there, you're being owned as we speak.
Really? dont you think I might of posted on that one first?
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You know what, if Dante's gym does have fake plates that would explain a whole lot! Dante speak on this! :o
Dante seriously, are all those kids in your gym legitimately benching 405+ for reps? I'm assuming that the following collection of videos Squadfather posted in that other thread were all actually filmed in the same gym, as SF seems to think.
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Were the videos of Steve Kucklo and Justin Harris filmed in the same gym?
Speak on this
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Really dont you think I might of posted on that one first?
yeah you just reposted that dumb shit that you posted before, i'm saying this, if you're claiming that those weights are 45 pounds apiece you're high as a kite, plain and simple.
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Speak on this
uhhh I just did, so someone or someones please answer the question posted above. Lets get to the bottom of this shall we?
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uhhh I just did, so someone or someones please answer the question posted above. Lets get to the bottom of this shall we?
So your sticking to the claims of them being real lifts?
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is he natural?
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Question for you Dante, are you honestly going to tell me that this average looking 180 pound guy with what looks like 14 and a half inch arms is pushing two reps with 405?
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where'd you go, Dante?
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He's ran down to the gym to get rid of the evidence ;D
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He's ran down to the gym to get rid of the evidence ;D
hahahahahha, either that or deleting every post where he supported that gym or the "men" who "train" there. ;D
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Bottom line about most of these videos, one simple question. If the person can lift the weight, Why does the spotter KEEP HIS HANDS around the bar??? If the spotter is touching the bar in any way, it is a crap lift period. Don't use its for safety excuse. A legit non competition "GYM" bench press if you will is your butt on the bench bring the bar all the way down touch your chest, lock it out at the top with the spotter standing back watching for you to get stuck, not putting his hands anywhere near the bar.
Need an example of someone with real strenght who can really bench press? Check below...
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4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
There is no fucking way that this kid stands up from the ground with 8 plates!!! 765!!! LOL NO FREAKING WAY!!! You have to get it on tape, do that and I'll apologize for doubting you.
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There is no fucking way that this kid stands up from the ground with 8 plates!!! 765!!! LOL NO FREAKING WAY!!! You have to get it on tape, do that and I'll apologize for doubting you.
hahahahha, he won't, Dante chickened out and ran away.
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Bottom line about most of these videos, one simple question. If the person can lift the weight, Why does the spotter KEEP HIS HANDS around the bar??? If the spotter is touching the bar in any way, it is a crap lift period. Don't use its for safety excuse. A legit non competition "GYM" bench press if you will is your butt on the bench bring the bar all the way down touch your chest, lock it out at the top with the spotter standing back watching for you to get stuck, not putting his hands anywhere near the bar.
Need an example of someone with real strenght who can really bench press? Check below...
Damn. Easy too......he looked like he could have kept going..... :o
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You guys are pretty hard on the kid. He looks damn awesome to me.
Who says there is only one way to train? If what he is doing got him 19 1/2 inch arms naturally then maybe just maybe he is on the right track?
About the bench presses... those negatives are giving him good strength and size.
(http://www.fitnessuniverse.com/store/images/videos/bodybuilder/bradly_castleberry/18.jpg)
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hahahahha, he won't, Dante chickened out and ran away.
I will fucking bow down before Billy Castleberry if he deads 765, I'll become his biggest fan.
There is no way, no freakin' way.
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hahahahahaha, his back is so arched in that shot it's hilarious, epic pushing the chest out.
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You guys are pretty hard on the kid. He looks damn awesome to me.
Who says there is only one way to train? If what he is doing got him 19 1/2 inch arms naturally then maybe just maybe he is on the right track?
About the bench presses... those negatives are giving him good strength and size.
Why not just say he benches 375 or 405 without a spot and quite a bit more on negatives? He might be good for 405, probably a bit less IMO, but that's not bad AT ALL. I'm surprised that Dante posted in the way he did about this kid, he is experienced and should know that this kid just CANNOT bench over 500, let alone 675. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Hahahaha those toothpicks couldn't roll those weights.
Edit: Dante what is wrong with you??????
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Why not just say he benches 375 or 405 without a spot and quite a bit more on negatives? He might be good for 405, probably a bit less IMO, but that's not bad AT ALL. I'm surprised that Dante posted in the way he did about this kid, he is experienced and should know that this kid just CANNOT bench over 500, let alone 675. Absolutely ridiculous.
Kid is still young. He is my age. I am much much stricker on form and got pretty good shape out of it. Brad looks like he trains recklessly with huge amounts of weights and got some serious mass to show for it. Maybe it is time for us to open our minds and go for the heavier weights instead of the safe ones?
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I will fucking bow down before Billy Castleberry if he deads 765, I'll become his biggest fan.
There is no way, no freakin' way.
wait...theres a billy and a brad..
which one are we talking about?
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Well I just got online and get the typical email saying "Dante check this out"...I've already said this :"Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF"
Im going to do this very very simply
my first question:
1) Who here lives in the SoCal/San Diego area (or if not, who on this board do you trust in his word.... that lives in the SoCal area?)
Dante, everything you've just written is absolutely irrelevant. Why? Because it is physically impossible for them to bench that weight. The laws of physics preclude them from it. For them to bench 7 plates a side even for a single rep, the cross-sectional area of their pecs, delts and tris would have to be much greater than what they have. Human beings simply do not have the amount of force per gram to bench that much with that amount of muscle mass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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wait...theres a billy and a brad..
which one are we talking about?
My bad, talking about Brad here lol
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Jesus how did I miss this thread????
There are two possibilities:
1. the plates are fake. Do you trust someones claim to be natural when they are lying on video about their lifts?????
**Possible giveaway: notice dingleberry never says how much weight it is when asked by his cronies, "I dunno, six plates", he says.
2. the plates are real and all these guys are loaded up on so much sauce their faces are about to explode. No way those lifts are attainable naturally. I've worked out in hardcore gyms all my life and seen maybe 2 or 3 people lift that much weight that easily.
**Possible giveaway: notice the kids look of disbelief when he finishes lifting six plates? almost like, "oh jesus, this juice is working". Natural lifters know you don't get surprised by your own strength unless you JUST started training.
In either case the dingleberry continues to linger on the ass of bbing...
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hahahahha, he won't, Dante chickened out and ran away.
Do you work? You dont do you? How do you post all day on a message board and work too? I just drove 30 miles and you were still on here posting the whole time during work hours.
You guys can twist this all you want....LOL. Let me point this out again to you yet again
1) I dont know any of those guys whose videos you posted, never even seen them in person. They have absolutely nothing to do with me whatsoever. I have seen Brad. I saw Brad finishing up deadlifting one day. I have never talked to Brad. So you can keep warping this for all you want. I talked about a kid in my gym Brad Castleberry and how his genetics separate him from others....which is something none of you have commented on still. My point of his genetics I feel has been proven beyond belief - case closed. Which is this.....with those unorthodox lifting methods (which I personally think are pretty stupid) he crushes the physiques of everyone he lifts with and pretty much the majority of getbiggers complaining about him. So it goes without saying that with your strict form and "yelling to the hills" adherance to "proper lifting techniques" his genetics still set him ahead of the majority of people. All at 21 years old. Welcome to the world of Paul Demayo, Mendenhall, and others
Again go ahead and click my name and read my last 4-5 posts at getbig. Ive stated the above exactly time and time again and every time you come back with something that is non related (I guess a topic matter that offends your own personal ego).....I have to sit here and wonder "uh great, now whats that got to do with what I said for the umpteenth time, can squadfather et others read a paragraph and understand what was said?" I know they lift like idiots---MORE PROOF OF WHAT I WAS SAYING!
Lets do this, because its so easy to sit on the net and spew out bullcrap with no consequences. Lets make some consequences. People have claimed I am a bullshit artist here...about what I really dont know. I talked about Brad Castleberry and his genetics. That is what I claimed and I stand by that 100% There is no doubt that kid has insane genetics. As far as his lifting poundages, hell if I know, you tell me, I got no idea--(man Ive repeated this 10 times now - its getting ridiculous) They lift wierd, they screw around and spot each other like idiots. But I did a little detective work when I joined my gym and asked around and found out his background and that he is absurdly strong 4 ways around the block. When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700 or put 765 on your back or attempted 675 on the bench (even with super spotters--LOL)...hell if I know what he can truly do, but the kid is strong no matter how idiotic his technique.
So the bullshitting part must mean the plates.....which I know are real so here is my suggestion. Trop might come out and stay with me after the USA so I was thinking having him on camera telling everyone the reality of the plates but that wont get it done will it to the board who will find a conspiracy theory when their is none.
Lets put your money where your mouth is. We will film this whole thing, put you right on camera checking the plates out themselves. Here is my suggestion. A whole bunch of people said I was a bullshit artist and claimed those were fake plates. Dont dissapoint me here and not speak up now. Prove me wrong. Hit me in the wallet. Your so adamant on it this should be easy. Ill put 1000 dollars up to anyone that comes with me to that gym and proves that guy is moving fake plates...we will have you load them up yourself.
And if you dont live in Socal then everyone vote a representative to go prove this for you en masse that you trust and we will get this done. And if he is using real plates you pay me 1000 dollars. Be very careful here, because my suggestion is we put our money in an account beforehand run by Ron and he pays up to the winner when the proof is in. Squadfather since you were first to call me a bullshit artist and the fake plates, Im going to naturally assume you are in, so please contact Ron and we will get this done. See it kind of sucks when you have to put your money where your mouth is doesnt it? it kind of raises the stakes a little bit. I lift there, I know how the gym is set up, and how impossible it would be to get in there with fake plates and not be noticed especially as known as this kid is locally. Do not pull out of this squadfather....your rep is already mud, cmon this is an easy 1 grand in your pocket. And anyone else that wants in--be my guest. Your 1000 against my 1000.
If your not willing to put your money where your mouth is, I consider this discussion over. Brads got elite genetics like I said and was the point in all of this, there is no question on that. And I'm offering you proof on the fake plates, win some money!
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Do you work? You dont do you? How do you post all day on a message board and work too? I just drove 30 miles and you were still on here posting the whole time during work hours.
You guys can twist this all you want....LOL. Let me point this out again to you yet again
1) I dont know any of those guys whose videos you posted, never even seen them in person. They have absolutely nothing to do with me whatsoever. I have seen Brad. I saw Brad finishing up deadlifting one day. I have never talked to Brad. So you can keep warping this for all you want. I talked about a kid in my gym Brad Castleberry and how his genetics separate him from others....which is something none of you have commented on still. My point of his genetics I feel has been proven beyond belief - case closed. Which is this.....with those unorthodox lifting methods (which I personally think are pretty stupid) he crushes the physiques of everyone he lifts with and pretty much the majority of getbiggers complaining about him. So it goes without saying that with your strict form and "yelling to the hills" adherance to "proper lifting techniques" his genetics still set him ahead of the majority of people. All at 21 years old. Welcome to the world of Paul Demayo, Mendenhall, and others
Again go ahead and click my name and read my last 4-5 posts at getbig. Ive stated the above exactly time and time again and every time you come back with something that is non related (I guess a topic matter that offends your own personal ego).....I have to sit here and wonder "uh great, now whats that got to do with what I said for the umpteenth time, can squadfather et others read a paragraph and understand what was said?" I know they lift like idiots---MORE PROOF OF WHAT I WAS SAYING!
Lets do this, because its so easy to sit on the net and spew out bullcrap with no consequences. Lets make some consequences. People have claimed I am a bullshit artist here...about what I really dont know. I talked about Brad Castleberry and his genetics. That is what I claimed and I stand by that 100% There is no doubt that kid has insane genetics. As far as his lifting poundages, hell if I know, you tell me, I got no idea--(man Ive repeated this 10 times now - its getting ridiculous) They lift wierd, they screw around and spot each other like idiots. But I did a little detective work when I joined my gym and asked around and found out his background and that he is absurdly strong 4 ways around the block. When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700 or put 765 on your back or attempted 675 on the bench (even with super spotters--LOL)...hell if I know what he can truly do, but the kid is strong no matter how idiotic his technique.
So the bullshitting part must mean the plates.....which I know are real so here is my suggestion. Trop might come out and stay with me after the USA so I was thinking having him on camera telling everyone the reality of the plates but that wont get it done will it to the board who will find a conspiracy theory when their is none.
Lets put your money where your mouth is. We will film this whole thing, put you right on camera checking the plates out themselves. Here is my suggestion. A whole bunch of people said I was a bullshit artist and claimed those were fake plates. Dont dissapoint me here and not speak up now. Prove me wrong. Hit me in the wallet. Your so adamant on it this should be easy. Ill put 1000 dollars up to anyone that comes with me to that gym and proves that guy is moving fake plates...we will have you load them up yourself.
And if you dont live in Socal then everyone vote a representative to go prove this for you en masse that you trust and we will get this done. And if he is using real plates you pay me 1000 dollars. Be very careful here, because my suggestion is we put our money in an account beforehand run by Ron and he pays up to the winner when the proof is in. Squadfather since you were first to call me a bullshit artist and the fake plates, Im going to naturally assume you are in, so please contact Ron and we will get this done. See it kind of sucks when you have to put your money where your mouth is doesnt it? it kind of raises the stakes a little bit. I lift there, I know how the gym is set up, and how impossible it would be to get in there with fake plates and not be noticed especially as known as this kid is locally. Do not pull out of this squadfather....your rep is already mud, cmon this is an easy 1 grand in your pocket. And anyone else that wants in--be my guest. Your 1000 against my 1000.
If your not willing to put your money where your mouth is, I consider this discussion over. Brads got elite genetics like I said and was the point in all of this, there is no question on that. And I'm offering you proof on the fake plates, win some money!
calm down tiger it aint that serious
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Do you work? You dont do you? How do you post all day on a message board and work too? I just drove 30 miles and you were still on here posting the whole time during work hours.
You guys can twist this all you want....LOL. Let me point this out again to you yet again
1) I dont know any of those guys whose videos you posted, never even seen them in person. They have absolutely nothing to do with me whatsoever. I have seen Brad. I saw Brad finishing up deadlifting one day. I have never talked to Brad. So you can keep warping this for all you want. I talked about a kid in my gym Brad Castleberry and how his genetics separate him from others....which is something none of you have commented on still. My point of his genetics I feel has been proven beyond belief - case closed. Which is this.....with those unorthodox lifting methods (which I personally think are pretty stupid) he crushes the physiques of everyone he lifts with and pretty much the majority of getbiggers complaining about him. So it goes without saying that with your strict form and "yelling to the hills" adherance to "proper lifting techniques" his genetics still set him ahead of the majority of people. All at 21 years old. Welcome to the world of Paul Demayo, Mendenhall, and others
Again go ahead and click my name and read my last 4-5 posts at getbig. Ive stated the above exactly time and time again and every time you come back with something that is non related (I guess a topic matter that offends your own personal ego).....I have to sit here and wonder "uh great, now whats that got to do with what I said for the umpteenth time, can squadfather et others read a paragraph and understand what was said?" I know they lift like idiots---MORE PROOF OF WHAT I WAS SAYING!
Lets do this, because its so easy to sit on the net and spew out bullcrap with no consequences. Lets make some consequences. People have claimed I am a bullshit artist here...about what I really dont know. I talked about Brad Castleberry and his genetics. That is what I claimed and I stand by that 100% There is no doubt that kid has insane genetics. As far as his lifting poundages, hell if I know, you tell me, I got no idea--(man Ive repeated this 10 times now - its getting ridiculous) They lift wierd, they screw around and spot each other like idiots. But I did a little detective work when I joined my gym and asked around and found out his background and that he is absurdly strong 4 ways around the block. When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700 or put 765 on your back or attempted 675 on the bench (even with super spotters--LOL)...hell if I know what he can truly do, but the kid is strong no matter how idiotic his technique.
So the bullshitting part must mean the plates.....which I know are real so here is my suggestion. Trop might come out and stay with me after the USA so I was thinking having him on camera telling everyone the reality of the plates but that wont get it done will it to the board who will find a conspiracy theory when their is none.
Lets put your money where your mouth is. We will film this whole thing, put you right on camera checking the plates out themselves. Here is my suggestion. A whole bunch of people said I was a bullshit artist and claimed those were fake plates. Dont dissapoint me here and not speak up now. Prove me wrong. Hit me in the wallet. Your so adamant on it this should be easy. Ill put 1000 dollars up to anyone that comes with me to that gym and proves that guy is moving fake plates...we will have you load them up yourself.
And if you dont live in Socal then everyone vote a representative to go prove this for you en masse that you trust and we will get this done. And if he is using real plates you pay me 1000 dollars. Be very careful here, because my suggestion is we put our money in an account beforehand run by Ron and he pays up to the winner when the proof is in. Squadfather since you were first to call me a bullshit artist and the fake plates, Im going to naturally assume you are in, so please contact Ron and we will get this done. See it kind of sucks when you have to put your money where your mouth is doesnt it? it kind of raises the stakes a little bit. I lift there, I know how the gym is set up, and how impossible it would be to get in there with fake plates and not be noticed especially as known as this kid is locally. Do not pull out of this squadfather....your rep is already mud, cmon this is an easy 1 grand in your pocket. And anyone else that wants in--be my guest. Your 1000 against my 1000.
If your not willing to put your money where your mouth is, I consider this discussion over. Brads got elite genetics like I said and was the point in all of this, there is no question on that. And I'm offering you proof on the fake plates, win some money!
i don't give two shits what you think of my "rep" "doggcrap" and you didn't answer my question, what do you think of the other dudes clips i posted? you know the 14-15 inch armed guys supposedly pressing 400-500 pounds with apparent ease and also do you honestly think this 21 year old kid is pressing raw weights that are 25-30 pounds off of what guys like Scott Mendelson, Ryan Kennelly and Gene Rychlak are doing?
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nice try big guy, but if it was real, even the dudes spotting him couldn't grab one side of that weight that easy! no f'in way! ::)
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Do you work? You dont do you? How do you post all day on a message board and work too? I just drove 30 miles and you were still on here posting the whole time during work hours.
You guys can twist this all you want....LOL. Let me point this out again to you yet again
1) I dont know any of those guys whose videos you posted, never even seen them in person. They have absolutely nothing to do with me whatsoever. I have seen Brad. I saw Brad finishing up deadlifting one day. I have never talked to Brad. So you can keep warping this for all you want. I talked about a kid in my gym Brad Castleberry and how his genetics separate him from others....which is something none of you have commented on still. My point of his genetics I feel has been proven beyond belief - case closed. Which is this.....with those unorthodox lifting methods (which I personally think are pretty stupid) he crushes the physiques of everyone he lifts with and pretty much the majority of getbiggers complaining about him. So it goes without saying that with your strict form and "yelling to the hills" adherance to "proper lifting techniques" his genetics still set him ahead of the majority of people. All at 21 years old. Welcome to the world of Paul Demayo, Mendenhall, and others
Again go ahead and click my name and read my last 4-5 posts at getbig. Ive stated the above exactly time and time again and every time you come back with something that is non related (I guess a topic matter that offends your own personal ego).....I have to sit here and wonder "uh great, now whats that got to do with what I said for the umpteenth time, can squadfather et others read a paragraph and understand what was said?" I know they lift like idiots---MORE PROOF OF WHAT I WAS SAYING!
Lets do this, because its so easy to sit on the net and spew out bullcrap with no consequences. Lets make some consequences. People have claimed I am a bullshit artist here...about what I really dont know. I talked about Brad Castleberry and his genetics. That is what I claimed and I stand by that 100% There is no doubt that kid has insane genetics. As far as his lifting poundages, hell if I know, you tell me, I got no idea--(man Ive repeated this 10 times now - its getting ridiculous) They lift wierd, they screw around and spot each other like idiots. But I did a little detective work when I joined my gym and asked around and found out his background and that he is absurdly strong 4 ways around the block. When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700 or put 765 on your back or attempted 675 on the bench (even with super spotters--LOL)...hell if I know what he can truly do, but the kid is strong no matter how idiotic his technique.
So the bullshitting part must mean the plates.....which I know are real so here is my suggestion. Trop might come out and stay with me after the USA so I was thinking having him on camera telling everyone the reality of the plates but that wont get it done will it to the board who will find a conspiracy theory when their is none.
Lets put your money where your mouth is. We will film this whole thing, put you right on camera checking the plates out themselves. Here is my suggestion. A whole bunch of people said I was a bullshit artist and claimed those were fake plates. Dont dissapoint me here and not speak up now. Prove me wrong. Hit me in the wallet. Your so adamant on it this should be easy. Ill put 1000 dollars up to anyone that comes with me to that gym and proves that guy is moving fake plates...we will have you load them up yourself.
And if you dont live in Socal then everyone vote a representative to go prove this for you en masse that you trust and we will get this done. And if he is using real plates you pay me 1000 dollars. Be very careful here, because my suggestion is we put our money in an account beforehand run by Ron and he pays up to the winner when the proof is in. Squadfather since you were first to call me a bullshit artist and the fake plates, Im going to naturally assume you are in, so please contact Ron and we will get this done. See it kind of sucks when you have to put your money where your mouth is doesnt it? it kind of raises the stakes a little bit. I lift there, I know how the gym is set up, and how impossible it would be to get in there with fake plates and not be noticed especially as known as this kid is locally. Do not pull out of this squadfather....your rep is already mud, cmon this is an easy 1 grand in your pocket. And anyone else that wants in--be my guest. Your 1000 against my 1000.
If your not willing to put your money where your mouth is, I consider this discussion over. Brads got elite genetics like I said and was the point in all of this, there is no question on that. And I'm offering you proof on the fake plates, win some money!
I got 1,000 for ya if you can prove he's not juiced...
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also Dante when was the last time you saw a 675 pound bar move like it was 135 when someone tried to scoot it over on the rack like Brad did in that clip?
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what do you think of the other dudes clips i posted? you know the 14-15 inch armed guys supposedly pressing 400-500 pounds with apparent ease and also do you honestly think this 21 year old kid is pressing raw weights that are 25-30 pounds off of what guys like Scott Mendelson, Ryan Kennelly and Gene Rychlak are doing?
What do I think? I guess the same as you on that--I dont know who those guys are
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Do you work? You dont do you? How do you post all day on a message board and work too? I just drove 30 miles and you were still on here posting the whole time during work hours.
You guys can twist this all you want....LOL. Let me point this out again to you yet again
1) I dont know any of those guys whose videos you posted, never even seen them in person. They have absolutely nothing to do with me whatsoever. I have seen Brad. I saw Brad finishing up deadlifting one day. I have never talked to Brad. So you can keep warping this for all you want. I talked about a kid in my gym Brad Castleberry and how his genetics separate him from others....which is something none of you have commented on still. My point of his genetics I feel has been proven beyond belief - case closed. Which is this.....with those unorthodox lifting methods (which I personally think are pretty stupid) he crushes the physiques of everyone he lifts with and pretty much the majority of getbiggers complaining about him. So it goes without saying that with your strict form and "yelling to the hills" adherance to "proper lifting techniques" his genetics still set him ahead of the majority of people. All at 21 years old. Welcome to the world of Paul Demayo, Mendenhall, and others
Again go ahead and click my name and read my last 4-5 posts at getbig. Ive stated the above exactly time and time again and every time you come back with something that is non related (I guess a topic matter that offends your own personal ego).....I have to sit here and wonder "uh great, now whats that got to do with what I said for the umpteenth time, can squadfather et others read a paragraph and understand what was said?" I know they lift like idiots---MORE PROOF OF WHAT I WAS SAYING!
Lets do this, because its so easy to sit on the net and spew out bullcrap with no consequences. Lets make some consequences. People have claimed I am a bullshit artist here...about what I really dont know. I talked about Brad Castleberry and his genetics. That is what I claimed and I stand by that 100% There is no doubt that kid has insane genetics. As far as his lifting poundages, hell if I know, you tell me, I got no idea--(man Ive repeated this 10 times now - its getting ridiculous) They lift wierd, they screw around and spot each other like idiots. But I did a little detective work when I joined my gym and asked around and found out his background and that he is absurdly strong 4 ways around the block. When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700 or put 765 on your back or attempted 675 on the bench (even with super spotters--LOL)...hell if I know what he can truly do, but the kid is strong no matter how idiotic his technique.
So the bullshitting part must mean the plates.....which I know are real so here is my suggestion. Trop might come out and stay with me after the USA so I was thinking having him on camera telling everyone the reality of the plates but that wont get it done will it to the board who will find a conspiracy theory when their is none.
Lets put your money where your mouth is. We will film this whole thing, put you right on camera checking the plates out themselves. Here is my suggestion. A whole bunch of people said I was a bullshit artist and claimed those were fake plates. Dont dissapoint me here and not speak up now. Prove me wrong. Hit me in the wallet. Your so adamant on it this should be easy. Ill put 1000 dollars up to anyone that comes with me to that gym and proves that guy is moving fake plates...we will have you load them up yourself.
And if you dont live in Socal then everyone vote a representative to go prove this for you en masse that you trust and we will get this done. And if he is using real plates you pay me 1000 dollars. Be very careful here, because my suggestion is we put our money in an account beforehand run by Ron and he pays up to the winner when the proof is in. Squadfather since you were first to call me a bullshit artist and the fake plates, Im going to naturally assume you are in, so please contact Ron and we will get this done. See it kind of sucks when you have to put your money where your mouth is doesnt it? it kind of raises the stakes a little bit. I lift there, I know how the gym is set up, and how impossible it would be to get in there with fake plates and not be noticed especially as known as this kid is locally. Do not pull out of this squadfather....your rep is already mud, cmon this is an easy 1 grand in your pocket. And anyone else that wants in--be my guest. Your 1000 against my 1000.
If your not willing to put your money where your mouth is, I consider this discussion over. Brads got elite genetics like I said and was the point in all of this, there is no question on that. And I'm offering you proof on the fake plates, win some money!
lol at the novel like meltdown
these guys used fake plates..plain and simple. Even with a team of spotters, no way a guy his size can even do a negative rep with 7 plates. Have you seen the video of brads brother (who looks 150lbs soaking wet with 12'' arms) do 315 for 6 reps like its nothing?
They're using 25lb bumper weights.../thread
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I just looked at those videos again...hahahahahahahaha hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hhahahahahahaaaaaa
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What do I think? I guess the same as you on that--I dont know who those guys are
all three of those guys are current world record holders in the bench press, Mendelson has done 715 raw without a shirt and Rychlak has done 1000 with a shirt but could probably only get 675-680 without the shirt, so are you saying that Castleberry is as strong as those guys?
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lol at the novel like meltdown
these guys used fake plates..plain and simple. Even with a team of spotters, no way a guy his size can even do a negative rep with 7 plates. Have you seen the video of brads brother (who looks 150lbs soaking wet with 12'' arms) do 315 for 6 reps like its nothing?
They're using 25lb bumper weights.../thread
So your in for 1000 too affy? Do I have your word on that?
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Know I know why it says "special" guest under your name, DC
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all three of those guys are current world record holders in the bench press, Mendelson has done 715 raw without a shirt and Rychlak has done 1000 with a shirt but could probably only get 675-680 without the shirt, so are you saying that Castleberry is as strong as those guys?
Do you ever read my posts? Do you have ADD? How many times do I have to say "I got no idea what he can do, I just know he is a seriously strong kid"
Now are you in for 1000 or not? Cmon man dont pull out of this one now too
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Make sure your read the code duello before betting...
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Dante i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because i honest to God think you're a good guy who does good things for people, now go back to page one of this thread and honestly look at all those clips i posted and tell me what you think, are you going to tell me that Brad's brother Billy who appears to weigh 150 pounds with AT MOST 13 inch arms is benching reps with 315? check out the other ones as well.
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Dante i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because i honest to God think you're a good guy who does good things for people, now go back to page one of this thread and honestly look at all those clips i posted and tell me what you think, are you going to tell me that Brad's brother Billy who appears to weigh 150 pounds with AT MOST 13 inch arms is benching reps with 315? check out the other ones as well.
Jesus!!! How many times do I need to repeat myself? I have no idea--probably spotter lifting up 200lbs--I could give a crap.....the point being is you guys saw Brad attempt 675 and even with him getting bombed and getting super spotted you claimed fake weights.
Im giving you the opportunity to take money out of my pocket proving me wrong on that. Are you in or not for the final time?
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Jesus!!! How many times do I need to repeat myself? I have no idea--probably spotter lifting up 200lbs--I could give a crap.....the point being is you guys saw Brad attempt 675 and even with him getting bombed and getting super spotted you claimed fake weights.
Im giving you the opportunity to take money out of my pocket proving me wrong on that. Are you in or not for the final time?
like i said in the other thread i'm not betting money on something i can't be there to personally witness, did you look at the clips?
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Jesus!!! How many times do I need to repeat myself? I have no idea--probably spotter lifting up 200lbs--I could give a crap.....the point being is you guys saw Brad attempt 675 and even with him getting bombed and getting super spotted you claimed fake weights.
Im giving you the opportunity to take money out of my pocket proving me wrong on that. Are you in or not for the final time?
What I want to know is who's one first?
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What I want to know is who's one first?
I'm telling you Who is on first.
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I'm telling you Who is on first.
Well, I'm asking YOU who's on first!
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Well, I'm asking YOU who's on first!
That's the man's name.
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Fake as the day is long.
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That's the man's name.
That's who's name?
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That's who's name?
Yes.
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Yes.
Well go ahead and tell me
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Well go ahead and tell me
Who
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Who
The guy on first
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The guy on first
Who!
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Who!
The first baseman.
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The first baseman.
Who is on first!
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Who is on first!
Have you got a contract with the first baseman?
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Have you got a contract with the first baseman?
Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
Who signs the contract?
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Who signs the contract?
Well, naturally!
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Well, naturally!
When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?
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When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?
Every dollar. Why not? The man's entitled to it.
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Do you work? You dont do you? How do you post all day on a message board and work too? I just drove 30 miles and you were still on here posting the whole time during work hours.
You guys can twist this all you want....LOL. Let me point this out again to you yet again
1) I dont know any of those guys whose videos you posted, never even seen them in person. They have absolutely nothing to do with me whatsoever. I have seen Brad. I saw Brad finishing up deadlifting one day. I have never talked to Brad. So you can keep warping this for all you want. I talked about a kid in my gym Brad Castleberry and how his genetics separate him from others....which is something none of you have commented on still. My point of his genetics I feel has been proven beyond belief - case closed. Which is this.....with those unorthodox lifting methods (which I personally think are pretty stupid) he crushes the physiques of everyone he lifts with and pretty much the majority of getbiggers complaining about him. So it goes without saying that with your strict form and "yelling to the hills" adherance to "proper lifting techniques" his genetics still set him ahead of the majority of people. All at 21 years old. Welcome to the world of Paul Demayo, Mendenhall, and others
Again go ahead and click my name and read my last 4-5 posts at getbig. Ive stated the above exactly time and time again and every time you come back with something that is non related (I guess a topic matter that offends your own personal ego).....I have to sit here and wonder "uh great, now whats that got to do with what I said for the umpteenth time, can squadfather et others read a paragraph and understand what was said?" I know they lift like idiots---MORE PROOF OF WHAT I WAS SAYING!
Lets do this, because its so easy to sit on the net and spew out bullcrap with no consequences. Lets make some consequences. People have claimed I am a bullshit artist here...about what I really dont know. I talked about Brad Castleberry and his genetics. That is what I claimed and I stand by that 100% There is no doubt that kid has insane genetics. As far as his lifting poundages, hell if I know, you tell me, I got no idea--(man Ive repeated this 10 times now - its getting ridiculous) They lift wierd, they screw around and spot each other like idiots. But I did a little detective work when I joined my gym and asked around and found out his background and that he is absurdly strong 4 ways around the block. When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700 or put 765 on your back or attempted 675 on the bench (even with super spotters--LOL)...hell if I know what he can truly do, but the kid is strong no matter how idiotic his technique.
So the bullshitting part must mean the plates.....which I know are real so here is my suggestion. Trop might come out and stay with me after the USA so I was thinking having him on camera telling everyone the reality of the plates but that wont get it done will it to the board who will find a conspiracy theory when their is none.
Lets put your money where your mouth is. We will film this whole thing, put you right on camera checking the plates out themselves. Here is my suggestion. A whole bunch of people said I was a bullshit artist and claimed those were fake plates. Dont dissapoint me here and not speak up now. Prove me wrong. Hit me in the wallet. Your so adamant on it this should be easy. Ill put 1000 dollars up to anyone that comes with me to that gym and proves that guy is moving fake plates...we will have you load them up yourself.
And if you dont live in Socal then everyone vote a representative to go prove this for you en masse that you trust and we will get this done. And if he is using real plates you pay me 1000 dollars. Be very careful here, because my suggestion is we put our money in an account beforehand run by Ron and he pays up to the winner when the proof is in. Squadfather since you were first to call me a bullshit artist and the fake plates, Im going to naturally assume you are in, so please contact Ron and we will get this done. See it kind of sucks when you have to put your money where your mouth is doesnt it? it kind of raises the stakes a little bit. I lift there, I know how the gym is set up, and how impossible it would be to get in there with fake plates and not be noticed especially as known as this kid is locally. Do not pull out of this squadfather....your rep is already mud, cmon this is an easy 1 grand in your pocket. And anyone else that wants in--be my guest. Your 1000 against my 1000.
If your not willing to put your money where your mouth is, I consider this discussion over. Brads got elite genetics like I said and was the point in all of this, there is no question on that. And I'm offering you proof on the fake plates, win some money!
Please clarify this for me if you could: you saw Brad do an 8 plate deadlift (765lbs) from the floor? He stood up with it by himself, no funny stuff going on, no weird spotting from the sides, it was not a lockout rack-dead etc?
Thanks.
When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700
Yes, I'm pulling a shade under 700, but it's in a suit and I'm 30 years old.
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Every dollar. Why not? The man's entitled to it.
Who is?
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Who is?
Yes. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.
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Yes. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.
Who's wife?
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Who's wife?
Yes
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Yes
All I'm tryin' to find out is what's the guy's name on first base
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Yes
Ny God, man! What a post troll you are! :o Are you trying to earn your fifth star here in a month or so? You will still be a newb regardless.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ny God, man! What a post troll you are! :o Are you trying to earn your fifth star here in a month or so? You will still be a newb regardless.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Just making a point (that is obviously lost on you).
I've been on here since 2003.
Clean your vagina.
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Dante, everything you've just written is absolutely irrelevant. Why? Because it is physically impossible for them to bench that weight. The laws of physics preclude them from it. For them to bench 7 plates a side even for a single rep, the cross-sectional area of their pecs, delts and tris would have to be much greater than what they have. Human beings simply do not have the amount of force per gram to bench that much with that amount of muscle mass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Dante, read my reply explaining why you are full of shit. Hope it helps. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dante calm down for a minute; you may be a little out over your ski tips on this one bro...
So essentially, you're wanting to bet someone 1000 dollars that the plates are real? So if somebody comes down there and finds no fake plates in the gym, then I'm assuming they'll also get to drop 675 pounds on top of Brad's chest again and film it so we can see how differently he handles the task using the verified weight? You'd need to do this because if there were fake plates before, then someone could have simply removed them from the premises. Does the person verifying the plates also get to spot Brad so they can relay to Getbig approximately how much they had to help him in the negative or the actual lift if the two of them can actually get it up before his chest cavity explodes? ;D
Squadfather's point here is that if there are 5 or 6 other intermediate-at-best lifters in that gym posting YouTube videos of them pushing that kind of weight, wouldn't it stand to reason that they all probably have access to the same modified Olympic bar/plate set-up and that Brad was probably also using a false prop when attempting to portray himself benching near world-record weight in that video?
I think you're actually trying to bet someone 1000 dollars that he has awesome genetics and that he is "pretty strong," which are terms way too ambiguous for a bet.
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Clean your vagina.
Patrick Bateman is not into vaginas. Your hero is a metrofag! :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The American Psycho book rocks. The thing Pat does with teh dog = teh bomb ;D
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Patrick Bateman is not into vaginas. Your hero is a metrofag! :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
A common misconception. Bret easton ellis, the author of american psycho is a homosexual, not the character
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Dante calm down for a minute; you may be a little out over your ski tips on this one bro...
So essentially, you're wanting to bet someone 1000 dollars that the plates are real? So if somebody comes down there and finds no fake plates in the gym, then I'm assuming they'll also get to drop 675 pounds on top of Brad's chest again and film it so we can see how differently he handles the task using the verified weight? You'd need to do this because if there were fake plates before, then someone could have simply removed them from the premises. Does the person verifying the plates also get to spot Brad so they can relay to Getbig approximately how much they had to help him in the negative or the actual lift if the two of them can actually get it up before his chest cavity explodes? ;D
Squadfather's point here is that if there are 5 or 6 other intermediate-at-best lifters in that gym posting YouTube videos of them pushing that kind of weight, wouldn't it stand to reason that they all probably have access to the same modified Olympic bar/plate set-up and that Brad was probably also using a false prop when attempting to portray himself benching near world-record weight in that video?
I think you're actually trying to bet someone 1000 dollars that he has awesome genetics and that he is "pretty strong," which are terms way too ambiguous for a bet.
the other guys have nothing to do with this--i dont know those guys---I saw and everyone saw videos of Brad getting help with 575 to 675lbs (full on help) which i repeatedly said "wow those guys lift screwy---even with that help and super spotting these guys said "obviously fake weights"
so the bet is --nope not fake weights because there arent fake weights in my gym
So Alex23 took the bet--he bet 1000 dollars that Brad cant duplicate the exact same videos he already has done with "help" because he is betting he is using fake weights
IM saying the weights are real--so after Brad gets done his set with "spotting help"--Alex can take off the weights off the bar and pay up
Its just that simple.
I dont know those other guys--christ i dont even know Brad but I do know one thing--everyone and their brother were saying my gym has fake weights--and IM positive that isnt the case--so ill collect my 1000 proving that--this wasnt about what brad can do in strict red light powerlifting form
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the other guys have nothing to do with this--i dont know those guys---I saw and everyone saw videos of Brad getting help with 575 to 675lbs (full on help) which i repeatedly said "wow those guys lift screwy---even with that help and super spotting these guys said "obviously fake weights"
so the bet is --nope not fake weights because there arent fake weights in my gym
So Alex23 took the bet--he bet 1000 dollars that Brad cant duplicate the exact same videos he already has done with "help" because he is betting he is using fake weights
IM saying the weights are real--so after Brad gets done his set with "spotting help"--Alex can take off the weights off the bar and pay up
Its just that simple.
I dont know those other guys--christ i dont even know Brad but I do know one thing--everyone and their brother were saying my gym has fake weights--and IM positive that isnt the case--so ill collect my 1000 proving that--this wasnt about what brad can do in strict red light powerlifting form
That's exactly what it is Dante.
I show up with 1k cash,
I load the plates, all 7 of them, the kid does 675 raw, no shirt.
Crushes his sternum
I collect 1k.
Still haven't got a reply via email. I emailed you from ag185057@ncr.com
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the other guys have nothing to do with this--i dont know those guys---I saw and everyone saw videos of Brad getting help with 575 to 675lbs (full on help) which i repeatedly said "wow those guys lift screwy---even with that help and super spotting these guys said "obviously fake weights"
so the bet is --nope not fake weights because there arent fake weights in my gym
So Alex23 took the bet--he bet 1000 dollars that Brad cant duplicate the exact same videos he already has done with "help" because he is betting he is using fake weights
IM saying the weights are real--so after Brad gets done his set with "spotting help"--Alex can take off the weights off the bar and pay up
Its just that simple.
I dont know those other guys--christ i dont even know Brad but I do know one thing--everyone and their brother were saying my gym has fake weights--and IM positive that isnt the case--so ill collect my 1000 proving that--this wasnt about what brad can do in strict red light powerlifting form
OK I see. So Alex gets to have 675 verified pounds dropped on Brad's chest with one spotter helping him to get it up. Right? How confident are you that Brad will oblige to film it again?
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That's exactly what it is Dante.
I show up with 1k cash,
I load the plates, all 7 of them, the kid does 675 raw, no shirt.
Crushes his sternum
I collect 1k.
Don't allow his regular spotters to spot him under 675.
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the other guys have nothing to do with this--i dont know those guys---I saw and everyone saw videos of Brad getting help with 575 to 675lbs (full on help) which i repeatedly said "wow those guys lift screwy---even with that help and super spotting these guys said "obviously fake weights"
so the bet is --nope not fake weights because there arent fake weights in my gym
So Alex23 took the bet--he bet 1000 dollars that Brad cant duplicate the exact same videos he already has done with "help" because he is betting he is using fake weights
IM saying the weights are real--so after Brad gets done his set with "spotting help"--Alex can take off the weights off the bar and pay up
Its just that simple.
I dont know those other guys--christ i dont even know Brad but I do know one thing--everyone and their brother were saying my gym has fake weights--and IM positive that isnt the case--so ill collect my 1000 proving that--this wasnt about what brad can do in strict red light powerlifting form
you sound so sure of yourself, how do you know that these clowns don't bring all these fake plates in with them when they "train", seems like they all train together so it makes perfect sense to me, how else do you explain 8 guys of average size being able to bench weights that you rarely see being handled?
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the other guys have nothing to do with this--i dont know those guys---I saw and everyone saw videos of Brad getting help with 575 to 675lbs (full on help) which i repeatedly said "wow those guys lift screwy---even with that help and super spotting these guys said "obviously fake weights"
so the bet is --nope not fake weights because there arent fake weights in my gym
So Alex23 took the bet--he bet 1000 dollars that Brad cant duplicate the exact same videos he already has done with "help" because he is betting he is using fake weights
IM saying the weights are real--so after Brad gets done his set with "spotting help"--Alex can take off the weights off the bar and pay up
Its just that simple.
I dont know those other guys--christ i dont even know Brad but I do know one thing--everyone and their brother were saying my gym has fake weights--and IM positive that isnt the case--so ill collect my 1000 proving that--this wasnt about what brad can do in strict red light powerlifting form
The 585 lbs lift will be impossible.
http://www.thefitexpo.com/events/benchpress.html
He benched 405 lbs at the Arnold this year.
How is he gonna bench 185 lbs more, even if it is with a little help?
And the 675 lbs suicide attempt, don't get me started on that...
-Hedge
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That's exactly what it is Dante.
I show up with 1k cash,
I load the plates, all 7 of them, the kid does 675 raw, no shirt.
Crushes his sternum
I collect 1k.
Still haven't got a reply via email. I emailed you from ag185057@ncr.com
No Alex I guess he'll get to use that same spotter. But if those weights were fake in the original video you're gonna see a different rep altogether, IMO, and that should probably be enough to prove that the first weigh was fake.
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No Alex I guess he'll get to use that same spotter. But if those weights were fake in the original video you're gonna see a different rep altogether, IMO, and that should probably be enough to prove that the first weigh was fake.
I'll spot him myself.
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No its not 675 its 585
585 is what i put up on my thread (look it up yourself)
somebody else put up the 675 one from getbig (squadfather i think)
its 585 with help as that is the link on my post about this
And with that agreed upon and with the same spotting--its a done deal
you can then take off the 585 yourself and see that those weights are normal and pay me 1000
Im not going to bet on a post or a link i didnt even put up
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The 585 lbs lift will be impossible.
http://www.thefitexpo.com/events/benchpress.html
He benched 405 lbs at the Arnold this year.
How is he gonna bench 185 lbs more, even if it is with a little help?
And the 675 lbs suicide attempt, don't get me started on that...
-Hedge
hahahahahaha, so he goes from a 500 pound squat at the beginning of March to an ass on calves 765 in the gym two months later, hahahahahaha, man i need some of what this kid is taking, 265 pounds on my squat in two months, he must be on 25,780,650,550mg. of test a week.
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No its not 675 its 585
585 is what i put up on my thread (look it up yourself)
somebody else put up the 675 one from getbig (squadfather i think)
its 585 with help as that is the link on my post about this
And with that agreed upon and with the same spotting--its a done deal
you can then take off the 585 yourself and see that those weights are normal and pay me 1000
Im not going to bet on a post or a link i didnt even put up
No, no, you said recreate the exact feat in the video, and that was 675.
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I'll spot him myself.
No, then Brad could say he doesn't trust you to do it for fear of injury to himself since you have 1000 dollars on the line. Or he could also say that you even pushed DOWN on the bar if he misses it so that you wouldn't have to cough up the money for Dante.
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675.raw.bitches
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Full Power S B D KILO LBS BW
242 Class Brad Castleberry 227.5 182.5 295 705 1554.2 #2 223
182.5 x 2.2 = 400lb... @ 223, not impressive and 275 away from the 7 plates. attempt.
The bet is for the 675 attempt.
His mom can spot as far as I'm concerned
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no check my original thread and the link to it--squadfather put up the 675 bench
i put up the 585 bench
I could care less either way--its not what brad can lift (and i hope to god you guys arent confusing this at all) you guys said he uses fake weights
Im betting he doesnt
I dont give a shit if they pull up 200lbs
those arent fake weights
Brad can do the high school 10 inch bounce if he wants for all I care--i just know that he isnt using cardboard plates
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Patrick Bateman is not into vaginas. Your hero is a metrofag! :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You crossed the line!
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Dante you're about to provoke poor guys like Alexxx to start suicide lifting! I mean widow-making is one thing, but damn this is some Kamakazi shit! ;D
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no check my original thread and the link to it--squadfather put up the 675 bench
i put up the 585 bench
I could care less either way--its not what brad can lift (and i hope to god you guys arent confusing this at all) you guys said he uses fake weights
Im betting he doesnt
I dont give a shit if they pull up 200lbs
those arent fake weights
Brad can do the high school 10 inch bounce if he wants for all I care--i just know that he isnt using cardboard plates
Make sure to record it when the 675 pounds comes crushing down on him
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no check my original thread and the link to it--squadfather put up the 675 bench
i put up the 585 bench
I could care less either way--its not what brad can lift (and i hope to god you guys arent confusing this at all) you guys said he uses fake weights
Im betting he doesnt
I dont give a shit if they pull up 200lbs
those arent fake weights
Brad can do the high school 10 inch bounce if he wants for all I care--i just know that he isnt using cardboard plates
What about all those other guys from the same gym? Is it likely THEY were using fake weights for their videos? Why are you so hesitant to believe Brad would have done the same thing? Brad's very likely a VERY strong lifter...we're not refuting that at all.
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No its not 675 its 585
585 is what i put up on my thread (look it up yourself)
somebody else put up the 675 one from getbig (squadfather i think)
its 585 with help as that is the link on my post about this
And with that agreed upon and with the same spotting--its a done deal
you can then take off the 585 yourself and see that those weights are normal and pay me 1000
Im not going to bet on a post or a link i didnt even put up
Dante, did you really see him pull 765 from the floor. He pulled only 650 at the Arnold. Which is still very impressive.
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no check my original thread and the link to it--squadfather put up the 675 bench
i put up the 585 bench
I could care less either way--its not what brad can lift (and i hope to god you guys arent confusing this at all) you guys said he uses fake weights
Im betting he doesnt
I dont give a shit if they pull up 200lbs
those arent fake weights
Brad can do the high school 10 inch bounce if he wants for all I care--i just know that he isnt using cardboard plates
Date, that's what he does on the video. That's what we agreed on.
Man what the hell is it with you guys? I never seen anyone twist shit like this board. The deal is this--we saw a vid of brad doing 585 with help and 675 with help. We will go in and have him do something along those lines again like he has already done--and you can take the weights off yourself. I already said I got no idea what he can bench in red light powerlifting terms. You guys claimed after you saw those vids that they were shot with Brad using fake weights. We will go down there and have him repeat that same thing with the same spots he got before and you can take off the weights yourself and ill collect my grand
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Make sure to record it when the 675 pounds comes crushing down on him
hahahahaha 675 would crush Cutler or Coleman's chest let alone this little long haired skinny fruit.
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Im not letting you guys twist this shit and say I said he can lift a certain amount of weight--IM calling you on this---YOU GUYS SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS USING FAKE WEIGHTS on his youtube vids no matter what the spot is (and it was probably a good hefty helping spot--i think i said at least 100lbs off in my original thread)--the matter at hand is if Brad uses fake weights with 585 bench (with help)
the help is regardless
I never once said he can bench 585 or 675--I said matter of factly he isnt using fake plates with that 585 with help....
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Im not letting you guys twist this shit and say I said he can lift a certain amount of weight--IM calling you on this---YOU GUYS SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS USING FAKE WEIGHTS on his youtube vids no matter what the spot is (and it was probably a good hefty helping spot--i think i said at least 100lbs off in my original thread)--the matter at hand is if Brad uses fake weights with 585 bench (with help)
the help is regardless
I never once said he can bench 585 or 675--I said matter of factly he isnt using fake plates with that 585 with help....
yes he is.
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I never once said he can bench 585 or 675--I said matter of factly he isnt using fake plates with that 585 with help....
The deal is this--we saw a vid of brad doing 585 with help and 675 with help. We will go in and have him do something along those lines again like he has already done--and you can take the weights off yourself.
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Dante, did you really see him pull 765 from the floor. He pulled only 650 at the Arnold. Which is still very impressive.
I came in right when they were just getting done (I asked one of the more advanced lifters there what he did--he said 8 plates a side for a single)
I asked my shipping employee the next day what he pulled "8 plates a side for a single"
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hahahahahaha, so he goes from a 500 pound squat at the beginning of March to an ass on calves 765 in the gym two months later, hahahahahaha, man i need some of what this kid is taking, 265 pounds on my squat in two months, he must be on 25,780,650,550mg. of test a week.
SF, he is natural
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8 Plates or 8 'Plates' ? ;D
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Why post a vid of yourself not lifting the weight? Did he think we wouldn't notice the 3 spotters helping him?
I've never seen anybody do something like that.
Except for Kamali. :-\
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Im not letting you guys twist this shit and say I said he can lift a certain amount of weight--IM calling you on this---YOU GUYS SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS USING FAKE WEIGHTS on his youtube vids no matter what the spot is (and it was probably a good hefty helping spot--i think i said at least 100lbs off in my original thread)--the matter at hand is if Brad uses fake weights with 585 bench (with help)
the help is regardless
I never once said he can bench 585 or 675--I said matter of factly he isnt using fake plates with that 585 with help....
I'd advise you let this one go bro. Realize that because of your influence and Alexxx's desperation to believe that "the secret" for his natural ass is just to lift heavier than he ever thought about lifting, he's in some gym right now loading up 405 for behind-the-neck militaries as we speak. I certainly hope he'll be ok. ;D
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hahahahahaha, so he goes from a 500 pound squat at the beginning of March to an ass on calves 765 in the gym two months later, hahahahahaha, man i need some of what this kid is taking, 265 pounds on my squat in two months, he must be on 25,780,650,550mg. of test a week.
At the Arnold Weekend 2007:
242 Class Brad Castleberry Squat:502 Benchpress:402 Deadlift:650 Total = 1554 lbs
A 250+ lbs increase in the squat in a few months?
Time for Dante to wake up and smell the coffee, I think.
-Hedge
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McFarland for president.
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this is my original post with the links
you want to bet on that--with the same help---my 1000 against yours that those are real plates vs your claim of fake plates--WE ARE ON......Everyone knows exactly that this is about you claiming those are fake plates, and Im not going to let anyone twist it thinking its about a good lift by powerlifting standards.
"You know what amazes me about this sport? How many long time juicers somehow forget both that you can build a great physique naturally with hard work and the bottom line is that genetics determine who has a great physique or not. I absolutely believe Michael Lockett is natural, and I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in bodybuilding who builds an awesome physique clean. No one will believe you, you will be constantly deluged with accusations of drug use, its a losing battle....and do you know where it all stems from? Jealousy. Noone can stand anyone else better than themselves physiquewise in this sport....so you have to blast them with "oh they must be doing this and that"... how can they look so different than I do?.........you see bickering even at the pro level and it all trickles on down.
Ever notice there isnt a preponderance of black people on all these muscle message boards stating "why cant I get bigger?" "how do i get cut up?" or "all drugs!"......the reason? They dont have to! By and large with (one notable exception everyone knows on these boards) black people are genetically predispositioned for this sport.
What you basically see on these boards is white kids/men complaining to each other about everyone who is bigger and better than them. I dont know how many times I wanted to yell out to someone bitching and whining about this crap and say "Hey here is your wakeup call, IM going to shit on your bodybuilding dream parade....YOU DONT HAVE ELITE BODYBUILDING GENETICS, DEAL WITH IT!"
Here is a 20 year old kid that lifts at my gym. Brad Castleberry.
He is 5'10" and even larger than he was last year in this video, I would estimate he is 15 lbs larger now onstage and 235-245 now offseason. Everyone knows he is lifetime natural, he is very known around here. I believe he placed 2nd last year in the Musclemania but was awarded first when the drug tests came back and the first place finisher flunked. He lifts with the same crew every day, they all lift the same. Included in that crew is one of my employees (who he hangs with and trains with). My employee has access to the best supplements and proteins there is at Trueprotein, do you think he looks like Brad? Do you think anyone in his lifting crew looks even remotely like Brad? Not even close. Because Brad has a genetic advantage that separates him from everyone. He is genetically gifted along the lines of Matt Mendenhall and Jay Cutler. He will never make it to that level because you cannot go into the Miss Universe without makeup on obviously. But here is a 20 year old kid with incredible genetics who can leap thru the roof, dunk a basketball like its nothing, and things come so easy for him bodybuilding wise.....while the people around him doing the exact same training/eating/supplements are left in the dust.
Ive been stating for years that I believe he who takes his strength levels up to their genetics limits (for reps) will create the largest physique muscularly (according to their genetic makeup). So how does a 20 year old lifetime natural kid create that kind of muscle mass? By lifting shit heavy, powerbuilding. Heavy weights on key exercises for reps in safe form. He has a cousin in the gym who also has the same exact elite genetics but doesnt like to train heavy, the typical "lets get a pump and go home" mentality 90% of the bodybuilding world has. The cousin is lean and skinny, while Brad is lean with a great deal of muscle mass. It's night and day. Whats funny is its a crew of young guys who dont really spot right, I dont think they take things that seriously and hey at 20 years old we all were still learning form and function.
He is trying to do maxx singles here for the video obviously and (for you Squadfather) these would never count in a powerlifting meet (and I would subtract at least 100 pounds off of everything) but the guy is a powerhouse for what he is and has learned what is putting muscle mass on his frame. Heavy weight for reps. Yet again you see where his elite genetics (size, strength, shape, even leaping ability) create a separation from everyday lifters and even his friends he hangs with.
Fair? Nope. But it is what it is. So IMO you can sit there and bitch, moan, complain, and create conspiracy theories the rest of your life or you can take it for what it is and get down to building the best physique your unique genetics (your mom and pop gave you) allow you to"
Again this whole thing was about genetics which for some reason Getbig seems to avoid
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I came in right when they were just getting done (I asked one of the more advanced lifters there what he did--he said 8 plates a side for a single)
I asked my shipping employee the next day what he pulled "8 plates a side for a single"
Okay. Hard to believe considering his Arnold results but whatever.
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Can someone translate what he just said in that sea of text?
He should know getbig doesn't do large posts >:(
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At the Arnold Weekend 2007:
242 Class Brad Castleberry Squat:502 Benchpress:402 Deadlift:650 Total = 1554 lbs
A 250+ lbs increase in the squat in a few months?
Time for Dante to wake up and smell the coffee, I think.
-Hedge
wake up and smell what coffee---read the post above.....this board twists peoples words into whatever they want to believe...do you see me stating anything matter of factly outside that he has great genetics above? Whatever floats your boat--I guess you guys are bored and need some new conspiracy theory
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wake up and smell what coffee---read the post above.....this board twists peoples words into whatever they want to believe...do you see me stating anything matter of factly outside that he has great genetics above? Whatever floats your boat--I guess you guys are bored and need some new conspiracy theory
Just shut up, and make this deal go through. We're all waiting to see him handling 600+ pounds
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this is my original post with the links
you want to bet on that--with the same help---my 1000 against yours that those are real plates vs your claim of fake plates--WE ARE ON......Everyone knows exactly that this is about you claiming those are fake plates, and Im not going to let anyone twist it thinking its about a good lift by powerlifting standards.
"You know what amazes me about this sport? How many long time juicers somehow forget both that you can build a great physique naturally with hard work and the bottom line is that genetics determine who has a great physique or not. I absolutely believe Michael Lockett is natural, and I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in bodybuilding who builds an awesome physique clean. No one will believe you, you will be constantly deluged with accusations of drug use, its a losing battle....and do you know where it all stems from? Jealousy. Noone can stand anyone else better than themselves physiquewise in this sport....so you have to blast them with "oh they must be doing this and that"... how can they look so different than I do?.........you see bickering even at the pro level and it all trickles on down.
Ever notice there isnt a preponderance of black people on all these muscle message boards stating "why cant I get bigger?" "how do i get cut up?" or "all drugs!"......the reason? They dont have to! By and large with (one notable exception everyone knows on these boards) black people are genetically predispositioned for this sport.
What you basically see on these boards is white kids/men complaining to each other about everyone who is bigger and better than them. I dont know how many times I wanted to yell out to someone bitching and whining about this crap and say "Hey here is your wakeup call, IM going to shit on your bodybuilding dream parade....YOU DONT HAVE ELITE BODYBUILDING GENETICS, DEAL WITH IT!"
Here is a 20 year old kid that lifts at my gym. Brad Castleberry.
He is 5'10" and even larger than he was last year in this video, I would estimate he is 15 lbs larger now onstage and 235-245 now offseason. Everyone knows he is lifetime natural, he is very known around here. I believe he placed 2nd last year in the Musclemania but was awarded first when the drug tests came back and the first place finisher flunked. He lifts with the same crew every day, they all lift the same. Included in that crew is one of my employees (who he hangs with and trains with). My employee has access to the best supplements and proteins there is at Trueprotein, do you think he looks like Brad? Do you think anyone in his lifting crew looks even remotely like Brad? Not even close. Because Brad has a genetic advantage that separates him from everyone. He is genetically gifted along the lines of Matt Mendenhall and Jay Cutler. He will never make it to that level because you cannot go into the Miss Universe without makeup on obviously. But here is a 20 year old kid with incredible genetics who can leap thru the roof, dunk a basketball like its nothing, and things come so easy for him bodybuilding wise.....while the people around him doing the exact same training/eating/supplements are left in the dust.
Ive been stating for years that I believe he who takes his strength levels up to their genetics limits (for reps) will create the largest physique muscularly (according to their genetic makeup). So how does a 20 year old lifetime natural kid create that kind of muscle mass? By lifting shit heavy, powerbuilding. Heavy weights on key exercises for reps in safe form. He has a cousin in the gym who also has the same exact elite genetics but doesnt like to train heavy, the typical "lets get a pump and go home" mentality 90% of the bodybuilding world has. The cousin is lean and skinny, while Brad is lean with a great deal of muscle mass. It's night and day. Whats funny is its a crew of young guys who dont really spot right, I dont think they take things that seriously and hey at 20 years old we all were still learning form and function.
He is trying to do maxx singles here for the video obviously and (for you Squadfather) these would never count in a powerlifting meet (and I would subtract at least 100 pounds off of everything) but the guy is a powerhouse for what he is and has learned what is putting muscle mass on his frame. Heavy weight for reps. Yet again you see where his elite genetics (size, strength, shape, even leaping ability) create a separation from everyday lifters and even his friends he hangs with.
Fair? Nope. But it is what it is. So IMO you can sit there and bitch, moan, complain, and create conspiracy theories the rest of your life or you can take it for what it is and get down to building the best physique your unique genetics (your mom and pop gave you) allow you to"
Again this whole thing was about genetics which for some reason Getbig seems to avoid
How would you ever prove they were fake plates? The only thing you could do is have Brad and his original spotter come reasonably close to recreating the feat in the video using an Alex23-verified 675 pounds. Agreed?
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You shouldn't claim a real 675 lift and not expect to get abuse...especially on this site ::)
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this is my original post with the links
you want to bet on that--with the same help---my 1000 against yours that those are real plates vs your claim of fake plates--WE ARE ON......Everyone knows exactly that this is about you claiming those are fake plates, and Im not going to let anyone twist it thinking its about a good lift by powerlifting standards.
"You know what amazes me about this sport? How many long time juicers somehow forget both that you can build a great physique naturally with hard work and the bottom line is that genetics determine who has a great physique or not. I absolutely believe Michael Lockett is natural, and I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in bodybuilding who builds an awesome physique clean. No one will believe you, you will be constantly deluged with accusations of drug use, its a losing battle....and do you know where it all stems from? Jealousy. Noone can stand anyone else better than themselves physiquewise in this sport....so you have to blast them with "oh they must be doing this and that"... how can they look so different than I do?.........you see bickering even at the pro level and it all trickles on down.
Ever notice there isnt a preponderance of black people on all these muscle message boards stating "why cant I get bigger?" "how do i get cut up?" or "all drugs!"......the reason? They dont have to! By and large with (one notable exception everyone knows on these boards) black people are genetically predispositioned for this sport.
What you basically see on these boards is white kids/men complaining to each other about everyone who is bigger and better than them. I dont know how many times I wanted to yell out to someone bitching and whining about this crap and say "Hey here is your wakeup call, IM going to shit on your bodybuilding dream parade....YOU DONT HAVE ELITE BODYBUILDING GENETICS, DEAL WITH IT!"
Here is a 20 year old kid that lifts at my gym. Brad Castleberry.
He is 5'10" and even larger than he was last year in this video, I would estimate he is 15 lbs larger now onstage and 235-245 now offseason. Everyone knows he is lifetime natural, he is very known around here. I believe he placed 2nd last year in the Musclemania but was awarded first when the drug tests came back and the first place finisher flunked. He lifts with the same crew every day, they all lift the same. Included in that crew is one of my employees (who he hangs with and trains with). My employee has access to the best supplements and proteins there is at Trueprotein, do you think he looks like Brad? Do you think anyone in his lifting crew looks even remotely like Brad? Not even close. Because Brad has a genetic advantage that separates him from everyone. He is genetically gifted along the lines of Matt Mendenhall and Jay Cutler. He will never make it to that level because you cannot go into the Miss Universe without makeup on obviously. But here is a 20 year old kid with incredible genetics who can leap thru the roof, dunk a basketball like its nothing, and things come so easy for him bodybuilding wise.....while the people around him doing the exact same training/eating/supplements are left in the dust.
Ive been stating for years that I believe he who takes his strength levels up to their genetics limits (for reps) will create the largest physique muscularly (according to their genetic makeup). So how does a 20 year old lifetime natural kid create that kind of muscle mass? By lifting shit heavy, powerbuilding. Heavy weights on key exercises for reps in safe form. He has a cousin in the gym who also has the same exact elite genetics but doesnt like to train heavy, the typical "lets get a pump and go home" mentality 90% of the bodybuilding world has. The cousin is lean and skinny, while Brad is lean with a great deal of muscle mass. It's night and day. Whats funny is its a crew of young guys who dont really spot right, I dont think they take things that seriously and hey at 20 years old we all were still learning form and function.
He is trying to do maxx singles here for the video obviously and (for you Squadfather) these would never count in a powerlifting meet (and I would subtract at least 100 pounds off of everything) but the guy is a powerhouse for what he is and has learned what is putting muscle mass on his frame. Heavy weight for reps. Yet again you see where his elite genetics (size, strength, shape, even leaping ability) create a separation from everyday lifters and even his friends he hangs with.
Fair? Nope. But it is what it is. So IMO you can sit there and bitch, moan, complain, and create conspiracy theories the rest of your life or you can take it for what it is and get down to building the best physique your unique genetics (your mom and pop gave you) allow you to"
Again this whole thing was about genetics which for some reason Getbig seems to avoid
so take 100 pounds off 675, and u think he could nail 575? ::) ::) ::)
bro, log off, and rinse some beef, do a widowmaker or something
cos you are getting pwned more than Chadwick Mower.
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--we saw a vid of brad doing 585 with help and 675 with help. We will go in and have him do something along those lines again like he has already done--and you can take the weights off yourself.
Get him under 675 and let him do it again.
Who knows, at this kids rate theres prob videos of him doing 750 on youtube by now!
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so take 100 pounds off 675, and u think he could nail 575? ::) ::) ::)
bro, log off, and rinse some beef, do a widowmaker or something
cos you are getting pwned more than Chadwick Mower.
There's the pitch...
...and davidpaul connects!
Ladies and gents, dtothep hits it out the ballpark.
-Hedge
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Dante, I'll tell you what...you better check with Brad to see if he's willing to do this before you go any further, because I don't think he'll agree to it.
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There's the pitch...
...and davidpaul connects!
Ladies and gents, dtothep hits it out the ballpark.
-Hedge
I can't see 575 going up Hedge can you?
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Dante, I'll tell you what...you better check with Brad to see if he's willing to do this before you go any further, because I don't think he'll agree to it.
Stop it McFarland. What needs to be done is to get enough leverage on him to force him to do it.
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I got a feeling a steroid induced meltdown is going to come from Dante soon... its been brewing - this is the calm before the storm.
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so take 100 pounds off 675, and u think he could nail 575? ::) ::) ::)
bro, log off, and rinse some beef, do a widowmaker or something
cos you are getting pwned more than Chadwick Mower.
how come you didnt say "at least 100lbs" like I did, convenience? What does at least 100lbs mean to you? 100 on the dot. How many times have I written on this board "i got no idea what the kid can do"
You know what the sad thing is, I feel like IM arguing for this kid and I dont even know the guy, not in the least.....I could actually give a crap if he can bench 250--it doesnt matter me--obviously it bugs you guys to no end---I just know my gym doesnt have fake weights and if you did try to walk in with fake weights you would have to walk thru the parking lot, thru the main entrance, by all the people in cardio and by everyone lifting...and you would look like an idiot--and everyone would know.
So Im pretty darn sick of arguing about some kid I could care less about except for stating the fact that he has exceptional genetics----people said there are fake weights in my gym and I was willing to bet that their werent. Now if your going to say "cant be duplicated", they took the weights out, whatever whatever and on and on.....I give up. How do you prove the unproveable then. Believe what you want. Anyone in the San Diego area who wants to go check that kid out for yourself, I believe he lifts at around 430 ish in the afternoon and he uses some damn heavy weights in his training. Email me if you want the gym name and go check it out yourself. Man this was stupid....I got to get some work done....I just blew my afternoon arguing whether my gym has fake weights or not
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When I was at the gym today blasting chest, I loaded up 765 on the bar and pressed it out for a partial. I completed the lift with my feet on the bench...Laughing uproariously after popping up off the bench I proceeded to high five everyone in the gym
TRUE STORY
ALL NATURAL BABY!!!!
BOOM!!!!
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Man this was stupid....
That's the first accurate thing you've said so far!
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I can't see 575 going up Hedge can you?
On the moon baby, on the moon! 8)
But other than that, no.
My guess is that the powerlifting results were an unpleasant surprise to Dante.
FWIW, I think Dante's done a good thing with the training system Doggcrapp.
-Hedge
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Dante, I'll tell you what...you better check with Brad to see if he's willing to do this before you go any further, because I don't think he'll agree to it.
If hes gonan try and move 675 he will need Glenn Ross "spotting" him,
by doggcrapp's reckoning the kid could do any those lifts minus 100 pounds with no spot - so he thinsk with no spot he could press 575.
HIS reasoning.
the kid cant do both, so what now?
btw, WHY are you defending him?
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(http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/farmer/2/widowmaker2.jpg)
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What if a few getbiggers went to his gym unannounced with a video camera and demanded that he did 600+?
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To sum it up.
Dante said there are no fake weights in the gym and no one could of walked in with them.
So.
He is saying the 675 raw is real.
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I just know my gym doesnt have fake weights and if you did try to walk in with fake weights you would have to walk thru the parking lot, thru the main entrance, by all the people in cardio and by everyone lifting...and you would look like an idiot--and everyone would know.
Once again:
I'm not saying they are fake weights.
I believe it to be instructional plastic plates. Used primarily by Olympic Weightlifters, and especially the youths when they start out.
Sure, some of the weights on the bar was most likely 45's. But not all of them.
In the squat: from 500 lbs to 765 in 3 months? Come on man.
Also, I think it would be interesting to see you hold this kid true to his claims.
-Hedge
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Once again:
I'm not saying they are fake weights.
I believe it to be instructional plastic plates. Used primarily by Olympic Weightlifters, and especially the youths when they start out.
Sure, some of the weights on the bar was most likely 45's. But not all of them.
In the squat: from 500 lbs to 765 in 3 months? Come on man.
Also, I think it would be interesting to see you hold this kid true to his claims.
-Hedge
He cant thats the thing hes just realised, that kid cant press 675 assisted, nor can he press 575 unassisted, weights some of the best pressers EVER have lifted.
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Natural? What a lying piece of shit...
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Do you work? You dont do you? How do you post all day on a message board and work too? I just drove 30 miles and you were still on here posting the whole time during work hours.
You guys can twist this all you want....LOL. Let me point this out again to you yet again
1) I dont know any of those guys whose videos you posted, never even seen them in person. They have absolutely nothing to do with me whatsoever. I have seen Brad. I saw Brad finishing up deadlifting one day. I have never talked to Brad. So you can keep warping this for all you want. I talked about a kid in my gym Brad Castleberry and how his genetics separate him from others....which is something none of you have commented on still. My point of his genetics I feel has been proven beyond belief - case closed. Which is this.....with those unorthodox lifting methods (which I personally think are pretty stupid) he crushes the physiques of everyone he lifts with and pretty much the majority of getbiggers complaining about him. So it goes without saying that with your strict form and "yelling to the hills" adherance to "proper lifting techniques" his genetics still set him ahead of the majority of people. All at 21 years old. Welcome to the world of Paul Demayo, Mendenhall, and others
Again go ahead and click my name and read my last 4-5 posts at getbig. Ive stated the above exactly time and time again and every time you come back with something that is non related (I guess a topic matter that offends your own personal ego).....I have to sit here and wonder "uh great, now whats that got to do with what I said for the umpteenth time, can squadfather et others read a paragraph and understand what was said?" I know they lift like idiots---MORE PROOF OF WHAT I WAS SAYING!
Lets do this, because its so easy to sit on the net and spew out bullcrap with no consequences. Lets make some consequences. People have claimed I am a bullshit artist here...about what I really dont know. I talked about Brad Castleberry and his genetics. That is what I claimed and I stand by that 100% There is no doubt that kid has insane genetics. As far as his lifting poundages, hell if I know, you tell me, I got no idea--(man Ive repeated this 10 times now - its getting ridiculous) They lift wierd, they screw around and spot each other like idiots. But I did a little detective work when I joined my gym and asked around and found out his background and that he is absurdly strong 4 ways around the block. When is the last time any of you guys pulled 700 or put 765 on your back or attempted 675 on the bench (even with super spotters--LOL)...hell if I know what he can truly do, but the kid is strong no matter how idiotic his technique.
So the bullshitting part must mean the plates.....which I know are real so here is my suggestion. Trop might come out and stay with me after the USA so I was thinking having him on camera telling everyone the reality of the plates but that wont get it done will it to the board who will find a conspiracy theory when their is none.
Lets put your money where your mouth is. We will film this whole thing, put you right on camera checking the plates out themselves. Here is my suggestion. A whole bunch of people said I was a bullshit artist and claimed those were fake plates. Dont dissapoint me here and not speak up now. Prove me wrong. Hit me in the wallet. Your so adamant on it this should be easy. Ill put 1000 dollars up to anyone that comes with me to that gym and proves that guy is moving fake plates...we will have you load them up yourself.
And if you dont live in Socal then everyone vote a representative to go prove this for you en masse that you trust and we will get this done. And if he is using real plates you pay me 1000 dollars. Be very careful here, because my suggestion is we put our money in an account beforehand run by Ron and he pays up to the winner when the proof is in. Squadfather since you were first to call me a bullshit artist and the fake plates, Im going to naturally assume you are in, so please contact Ron and we will get this done. See it kind of sucks when you have to put your money where your mouth is doesnt it? it kind of raises the stakes a little bit. I lift there, I know how the gym is set up, and how impossible it would be to get in there with fake plates and not be noticed especially as known as this kid is locally. Do not pull out of this squadfather....your rep is already mud, cmon this is an easy 1 grand in your pocket. And anyone else that wants in--be my guest. Your 1000 against my 1000.
If your not willing to put your money where your mouth is, I consider this discussion over. Brads got elite genetics like I said and was the point in all of this, there is no question on that. And I'm offering you proof on the fake plates, win some money!
I live in the bay area I will go if someone pays for my gas, will load the plates myself etc. I think this is all doubtful but their form is so shitty it is POSSIBLE the plates are real. Back in the day my boy brandon used to bench 405 for 6 super perfect reps, he was 6ft2 about 265-270 ripped and on a ton of sauce, he was actually going into the nfl but fucked his knee. To think this kid is claiming to do significantly more, on sauce or not I highly doubt it just doesn't sound possible.
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Those clips are absolute dogshit......if those twurps pushed that weight then I have a 19" cock and last I checked my junk was a shriveled 10.5".
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I know this gym and it is close. PM me Dante, anytime.
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I'd advise you let this one go bro. Realize that because of your influence and Alexxx's desperation to believe that "the secret" for his natural ass is just to lift heavier than he ever thought about lifting, he's in some gym right now loading up 405 for behind-the-neck militaries as we speak. I certainly hope he'll be ok. ;D
hahaha I can beat him in any competition. ;)
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This guy is a fucking retard. "You need to train like a powerlifter to look like me." "I eat taco bell, burgers, protein."
You can scroll through the videos while one is playing.
BTW, those guys are lifting at an LA Fitness. The guy with 10 inch arms benching 3 plates is fake for sure. No LA Fitness plates look like that. If anyone wants I will take a pic and post it tomorrow of 45 lb plates from LA Fitness tomorrow.
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This guy is a fucking retard. "You need to train like a powerlifter to look like me." "I eat taco bell, burgers, protein."
You can scroll through the videos while one is playing.
http://muscleboyvideo.blogspot.com/search/label/Brad%20Castleberry
BTW, those guys are lifting at an LA Fitness. The guy with 10 inch arms benching 3 plates is fake for sure. No LA Fitness plates look like that. If anyone wants I will take a pic and post it tomorrow of 45 lb plates from LA Fitness tomorrow.
Post em up Cap, I love it when people are called out and publically humiliated :D
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Post em up Cap, I love it when people are called out and publically humiliated :D
Don't worry sir. I hate to bring the cell in the gym but I will take one for the team. If the skinny asshole benching "315" for 10 is legit then I use 500 easy and the fat powerlifter at my gym pressing 5 plates is setting up for a world record. The plates are not what the gyms use, plain and simple.
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Don't worry sir. I hate to bring the cell in the gym but I will take one for the team. If the skinny asshole benching "315" for 10 is legit then I use 500 easy and the fat powerlifter at my gym pressing 5 plates is setting up for a world record. The plates are not what the gyms use, plain and simple.
Excellent!!! Thanks for taking one for the team. I just posted in the cell phone in the gym thread. I hate those guys!!! Just make sure you turn the phone off after you get pics ;D I've only seen 50kg plates that had rubber on them, all others I've seen have been steel. I've seen some legit 500+ benchers and they are huge compared to these guys, so I am inclined to call bullshit right along with everyone else :D
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Excellent!!! Thanks for taking one for the team. I just posted in the cell phone in the gym thread. I hate those guys!!! Just make sure you turn the phone off after you get pics ;D I've only seen 50kg plates that had rubber on them, all others I've seen have been steel. I've seen some legit 500+ benchers and they are huge compared to these guys, so I am inclined to call bullshit right along with everyone else :D
Yea, I never bring the phone in. If you think you might need to answer the phone, then don't walk through the doors. This gym chain uses steel plates coated with rubber and they are not that thick.
If anybody thinks that Pee Wee Herman benched 315 for 10 and this guy squatted almost as much as Coleman (with wraps and a squat suit) then you are retarded. Even if he is juicing, you don't walk into a gym with your Billabong shorts and a cheap lifting belt and squat 8 plates. Sorry.
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I am starting to think that Dante Truddel is retarded. :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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i still say bumper plates......
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this guy squatted almost as much as Coleman (with wraps and a squat suit) then you are retarded. Even if he is juicing, you don't walk into a gym with your Billabong shorts and a cheap lifting belt and squat 8 plates. Sorry.
Of course he doesn't, what he can do is in the link Hedgehog put up. He squats 500, benches 405 and deads 650. Still very strong but nowhere near what he is claiming. Then there's question if he is juiced of course.
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WOW!!! I can't believe this guy Brad Dingleberry. He is officially a bigger douche bag than Derek Anthony. I never thought I'd say that.
I can't believe that some of you are asking if he is natural, like that matters. So if he is using steroids, it must be true that he can bench 675 ???
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WOW!!! I can't believe this guy Brad Dingleberry. He is officially a bigger douche bag than Derek Anthony. I never thought I'd say that.
I can't believe that some of you are asking if he is natural, like that matters. So if he is using steroids, it must be true that he can bench 675 ???
What's your problem, Oracle? Trey Brewer benches 600's for reps all the time. Soon he will be almost as strong as I am and hit the 800 for reps!
:)
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well, i will NOT say the plates in those videos are fake, but they are definetly NOT 45lbs/20.4kg!!!!
I have used plastic/rubber plates that were only 25lbs/ 11kg about the size of normal big plates. Man, i had a good feeling deadlifting 5 plates aside but they were only 25lbs each!
I can't believe if anyone thinks that castle guy and ALL his pals were so "gifted" in their strengths... ::) especially those with 10-13inch arms, 3 to 4 45lb plates aside? get real, we all know how heavy that is >:(
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Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF
You really do talk a lot of shit.
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As real/natural as pamela anderson tits
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hahahahahahahahaha what a clown
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You really do talk a lot of shit.
I sure do and I back that shit right the hell up!
Nothing is more pathetic than a bunch of shit talkers who throw a bunch of crap out there but when it is going to hit them in the wallet they clam up and you hear crickets.
Not one person took me up on that 1000 dollar offer, do you know why? Because all of a sudden reality sets in that "oh damn I could not only be wrong here after all I said, but be out 1000 dollars too" I had no problem putting a grand up did I? Maybe because I know something you dont? Namely that everyone has to check in to the front desk and they would be like "uhhhh what the hell are you doing?" If you tried to walk in with fake plates. The guy lifts like that all the time, whats he going to do bring fake plates with him to the gym 3-4 times a week? Mike Parretta who at one time was battleing it out with Kazmier locally at my old gym Free's powerlifting gym, lifts at my gym too....he at one time was going after the all time record deadlift and nearly got it......lifts at the same gym, are you going to say he uses those same fake weights?
I'll also give 1000 dollars to anyone who shows me saying matter of factly that the Castleberry kid can "definitely bench this" or "definitely squat that". I dont know what the spotters are lifting I dont know what the squatting spotter is helping him with.....and you know what I dont give a crap. I estimated "at least 100 pounds off" with the 585 bench and the 765 squat....what does "at least 100 pounds off" mean to everyone here? It means to me about 100 to 200lbs off on the lift. So what? The kid lifts like an idiot (and it looks like his friends do too according to those videos).....the point is he is a strong kid with exceptional genetics and those plates are 45 pound plates. I told my employee who knows him to tell him I said those are idiotic lifts and bogus, so if I said that myself what the hell are you guys arguing about?
So the one guy who took me up on my bet tried to weasel out of it by having him spot the kid, having him do 675 someone else posted instead of the 585 bench with super spotting link I put up and the other guy who said "Ill prove tommorow that those arent LA fitness 45 pound plates with pics!" Where is he? I PMed you the address even. You went there and discovered that "oh shit Dante was right" and now you say nothing? Convenient.
The general manager there who is there all day is I believe named Brad. I think thats his name...he is there about 12 hours a day. Why doesnt someone call him up and ask him "hey are there fake plates in your gym? Could someone actually walk into your gym with 4 fake plates and go unnoticed?"
Better yet go down there yourself and yell at those guys for not doing "true to themself" lifting. But I still stand to my word that the Brad kid is one strong 21 year old kid, not doubt about that.
My opinion in life is if you shoot your mouth off and cant back your shit up, your opinion means nothing. Fact: those arent fake plates, and fact that kid cant bench 585 by himself without alot of help, no shit. I backed up my word that those plates are 45's, you guys didnt have the balls to--this convo is done.
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Dante don't expect anything from anyone here. Most are braindead to say the least and are obviously scared of real life confrontations.
I think Brad's official lifts are: bench 400 squat 500 and deadlift 650
I am most impressed by his deadlift then anything else. That is already up there with what Trop and Kulco do.
I guess short people have tighter spines. ;D
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DC, you are a moron. I used to think you were a moderately intelligent guy. The feeling has passed...
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This Doggcrapp guy is seriously retarded.
Dingelberry natural yeah right ::)
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I'm bigger than this guy and I'm natural.. I believe it.. And those rubber weights are light. I have them in my gym too, same ones..
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I'm bigger than this guy and I'm natural.. I believe it.. And those rubber weights are light. I have them in my gym too, same ones..
got any clips of you benching 500+ with no shirt?
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got any clips of you benching 500+ with no shirt?
I'll do it naked..
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Regardless of his strength, size, genetics, lifts, attitude, etc, this Castleberry kid definitely scores pretty high on the gaydar...
~touche mate~
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~touche mate~
He's clearly responding to this thread in that video...Funny, DB incline pressing 125 seems much more doable than benching 600 plus...
punk
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~touche mate~
LOL Dante, yeah Brad doesn't go online huh?
He is MAD, the haterz got to him :D
Brad, inject some more gear, that wasn't too impressive for a juicer :P
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~touche mate~
hahahah epic schmoeband on the head and queer derek anthony like voice to boot.
if he is going to make a video to 'prove' shit, why didnt he just go ahead and bench before verifying they are real plates to the camera ??? ::)
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ha ha ha brutal tough guy slams at the end
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This Brad is lacking in class and intelligence... He is acting like a chick at the height of PMS!!!
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Gotta love those rubber dumbbells.. lol Put those on a scale they will be 80 pounds tops..
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ALL RIGHT DANTE DOGGCRAP.
I have a simple question for you.
DOGGCRAP, if there are in fact 7 45 plates on that bar (675 lbs), then PLEASE TELL ME how exactly Brad can from 00:12-00:15 move the bar casually from side to side?
It's not possible. NOT with that weight. You can't center such a barbell, move it up and down the rack, with 675 lbs on it.
Also, why the f--- 1000 dollar bet. Why not NO money? Who gives a shit about the money... it's about the TRUTH jackass.
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ALL RIGHT DANTE DOGGCRAP.
I have a simple question for you.
DOGGCRAP, if there are in fact 7 45 plates on that bar (675 lbs), then PLEASE TELL ME how exactly Brad can from 00:12-00:15 move the bar casually from side to side?
It's not possible. NOT with that weight. You can't center such a barbell, move it up and down the rack, with 675 lbs on it.
Also, why the f--- 1000 dollar bet. Why not NO money? Who gives a shit about the money... it's about the TRUTH jackass.
exactly what i said in an earlier post, the way that bar slides looks like the way 135 would slide, hahahaha, that clip was faker than Michael Jackson acting like a heterosexual, Marvin Eder was a beast BTW.
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exactly what i said in an earlier post, the way that bar slides looks like the way 135 would slide, hahahaha, that clip was faker than Michael Jackson acting like a heterosexual, Marvin Eder was a beast BTW.
Eder rocked.
And Dante.. If you had a little integrity you wouldn't place a thousand dollar bet on it - you'd simply find out the truth, and the truth then would be to have an objective, impartial member from getbig witness Brad re-do those very feats in a manner very comparable to what we see in the vids.
Somehow, that is not going to happen, I think.
MASTER BENCHER Eddie Robinson, who was MASSIVE, benched 610 at age 20, and that was an unofficial world record.
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I will repeat the statement so dANTE can't miss it:
You CANNOT move the bar so easily back and forth when there's 7 plates on each side. Check out the 675 clip, from 00:12 to 00:15. He moves the weight casually from side to side. - it can't be done. I regularly spot a guy who benches 435 in my gym, and centering the barbell even with 435 is no joke - now, take 675.
LOL at this discussion. ALL rationality implies that it's FAKE.
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And whose gimmick are you?
Monster first three posts!!!
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Hey bitches. You all know I was the first one on the line with the 1K and ready to go to Vista's LA fitness to check out the weights (I'm in Carlsbad 10mins from there)
Well I just did this afternoon.
Dumbells are reals.
Haven't seen any fake plates.
I give the kid benefit of the doubt.
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That's nice.
21 year old Brad Castleberry is stronger, then, than just about every single lifter in the world in his weight class - and he's "natural" too.
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Hey bitches. You all know I was the first one on the line with the 1K and ready to go to Vista's LA fitness to check out the weights (I'm in Carlsbad 10mins from there)
Well I just did this afternoon.
Dumbells are reals.
Haven't seen any fake plates.
I give the kid benefit of the doubt.
That's all fine and good Al....but without the kid popping 675 real lbs. in front of you nothing has been settled IMO
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That's all fine and good Al....but without the kid popping 675 real lbs. in front of you nothing has been settled IMO
Exactly.
I don't doubt the DBs are real.
But we need to see the bench, as I can see NO explanation for the above posts of mine concerning oo:12-00:15 of the clip where Brad moves the bar back and forth.
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Hey bitches. You all know I was the first one on the line with the 1K and ready to go to Vista's LA fitness to check out the weights (I'm in Carlsbad 10mins from there)
Well I just did this afternoon.
Dumbells are reals.
Haven't seen any fake plates.
I give the kid benefit of the doubt.
not until you see the press in person, you don't >:(
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The LA fitness in Redlands has those rubber dumbbells that go up to 100 monster pounds.. The 100 pounders feel like about 60-65 pounds.. They do this so these guys dont break the floor by dropping real 100 pounders.. The wanna-be lifters are happy that they have 100's and the floor will live to see another day..
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Alex what time did you go.....I just got back....I saw my employee there and he said they did back today and was there from 4pm-6pm.
I asked him if he saw a guy with longer blonde hair around and he said he hadnt.
He said they did back today and ended with deadlifts in the far corner and Brad did 600 plus for 7 reps and I hope you saw that.
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ALL RIGHT DANTE DOGGCRAP.
I have a simple question for you.
DOGGCRAP, if there are in fact 7 45 plates on that bar (675 lbs), then PLEASE TELL ME how exactly Brad can from 00:12-00:15 move the bar casually from side to side?
It's not possible. NOT with that weight. You can't center such a barbell, move it up and down the rack, with 675 lbs on it.
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~touche mate~
I just watch that vid with sound... LOL that is funny. He was about to cry. Good lift though.
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HAHAHAAAAA this Dingleberry sounds like the kind of guy who would walk into a prison group shower and drop the soap on purpose.
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I just watch that vid with sound... LOL that is funny. He was about to cry. Good lift though.
Does everyone from San Diego talk like a queer?
honest question
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I asked him if he saw a guy with longer blonde hair around and he said he hadnt.
Is that really all you said "a guy with longer blonde hair". C'mon, how did you really describe Alex23 to your buddy at the gym?
Did you at least say "a big guy with longer blonde hair"?
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Is that really all you said "a guy with longer blonde hair". C'mon, how did you really describe Alex23 to your buddy at the gym?
Did you at least say "a big guy with longer blonde hair"?
I'm sure a big guy with longer blond hair is a fucking rare sight in southern california ::)
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I hope he doesn't try this with real iron weights.. He might need more spotters helping the weight up..
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hahahahaha, looks like we've got a new name among the bench greats of all time, Bill Kazmaier, Jim Williams, Pat Casey, Mike McDonald, Ryan Kennely, Scott Mendelson, Anthony Clark and.........drum roll please.................. ........ 227 pound Brad Castleberry. ::)
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and haow about squatfatter you chubby fat ass casm so goosed and gassed up on roids you could never break 385 with them chubby lil arms tiny tit!!
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ALL RIGHT DANTE DOGGCRAP.
I have a simple question for you.
DOGGCRAP, if there are in fact 7 45 plates on that bar (675 lbs), then PLEASE TELL ME how exactly Brad can from 00:12-00:15 move the bar casually from side to side?
It's not possible. NOT with that weight. You can't center such a barbell, move it up and down the rack, with 675 lbs on it.
I got no idea man...Wd40? Slick50 on the bar? At 00:11 I think I saw Cris Angel the magician in the background and at 00:17 I swear I saw a couple of invisible wires. He is superboy? He has been practicing sliding barbells on steel? I dont know...I dont know the kid. My employee and others do. I did hear he hurt his shoulder/pec on that 675 if that makes you guys feel any better. Just like I said "i got no idea why he lifts like he does and does more weight than he can actually do by far....regardless the kid is abnormally strong for a 21 year old natural"
I also have no idea why the guy diets like he does. I guess he is crash dieting for some show in 3 weeks and does this every time. Ive already told you guys, he has been known around here for years. There was never a big 30 pound bodyweight juice jump size or strength wise. He was abnormally strong when he started at I guess 16 and 175 or so.
The guy has been competing in the musclemania for years. Are you guys watching the same thing I am? I saw a guy who had no chance of making 675 and got absolutely bombed with it, and the spotters spotting him struggled to get it up. I bring this kid up once in a post about how genetics separate people, a kid I dont even know, Im just making an observation...and you guys keep asking me questions about him---I dont know him! Just like what happened when Demayo and his buddies lifted, or Mattarrazzo and his buddies lifted or Cutler and his buddies lifted. One guy soars ahead and leaves his buddies in the dust because he has elite genetics. All of them are doing the same things....but you sure as heck didnt see Demayo's friends showing up onstage in their first show at 228lbs in his first show as a teenager
If you dont believe it--the guy lifts almost every weekday of the week at about 4 to 530pm, go and check it out yourself. Its not a one time youtube video. He lifts like that all the time. Tell him yourself "bro your a incredibly strong kid, why do you do this super spotter stuff?"
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I got no idea man...Wd40? Slick50 on the bar? At 00:11 I think I saw Cris Angel the magician in the background and at 00:17 I swear I saw a couple of invisible wires. He is superboy? He has been practicing sliding barbells on steel? I dont know...I dont know the kid. My employee and others do. I did hear he hurt his shoulder/pec on that 675 if that makes you guys feel any better. Just like I said "i got no idea why he lifts like he does and does more weight than he can actually do by far....regardless the kid is abnormally strong for a 21 year old natural"
I also have no idea why the guy diets like he does. I guess he is crash dieting for some show in 3 weeks and does this every time. Ive already told you guys, he has been known around here for years. There was never a big 30 pound bodyweight juice jump size or strength wise. He was abnormally strong when he started at I guess 16 and 175 or so.
The guy has been competing in the musclemania for years. Are you guys watching the same thing I am? I saw a guy who had no chance of making 675 and got absolutely bombed with it, and the spotters spotting him struggled to get it up. I bring this kid up once in a post about how genetics separate people, a kid I dont even know, Im just making an observation...and you guys keep asking me questions about him---I dont know him! Just like what happened when Demayo and his buddies lifted, or Mattarrazzo and his buddies lifted or Cutler and his buddies lifted. One guy soars ahead and leaves his buddies in the dust because he has elite genetics. All of them are doing the same things....but you sure as heck didnt see Demayo's showing up onstage in their first show at 228lbs in his first show as a teenager
If you dont believe it--the guy lifts almost every weekday of the week at about 4 to 530pm, go and check it out yourself. Its not a one time youtube video. He lifts like that all the time. Tell him yourself "bro your a incredibly strong kid, why do you do this super spotter stuff?"
you're a fat liar, plain and simple, your credibility is ruined with defending this joke.
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Is that really all you said "a guy with longer blonde hair". C'mon, how did you really describe Alex23 to your buddy at the gym?
Did you at least say "a big guy with longer blonde hair"?
Oh man you got me...let me think. I think I said "a guy with longer blonde hair" and i pointed to the length on my neck. And I think my employee said "Is he tall?" and I said "I would say about 5'9" and he is stocky, he has muscle on him, he is a bigger guy"...and my employee said "no I didnt see anyone like that"
you got me NYCbull...I dont know how I could of overlooked the whole conversation and obviously I should of given you the word for word play by play. Should this be a whole new conspiracy in itself? Should we throw out the case because of the lack of discovery/evidence in my quick description of Alex? My apologies to Alex, I did say you were a bigger guy to my employee ( I just forgot this is getbig and they dont like the shortened version ) I move for dismissal
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you're a fat liar, plain and simple, your credibility is ruined with defending this joke.
shut you fat piece of monkey shit.....
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ALL RIGHT DANTE DOGGCRAP.
I have a simple question for you.
DOGGCRAP, if there are in fact 7 45 plates on that bar (675 lbs), then PLEASE TELL ME how exactly Brad can from 00:12-00:15 move the bar casually from side to side?
It's not possible. NOT with that weight. You can't center such a barbell, move it up and down the rack, with 675 lbs on it.
Also, why the f--- 1000 dollar bet. Why not NO money? Who gives a shit about the money... it's about the TRUTH jackass.
Hahaha.
I just checked that part just now. At :13, :14, Shitkid Dingleberry is moving the weight.
I've spotted on lots of heavy benching, and Dingleberry is laughable.
Dante, I think you're starting to realize the kid's a faker by now.
-Hedge
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Nice post DOGGCRAPP except you fail to address my question. I don't appreciate your joke failures either.
NO way a person can slide 675 to the sides as he does at 00:13 and 00:14. the weight is simply too heavy.
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The other stuff - him joking about it, not taking it seriously - is circumstantial. It sure does indicate it's fake, but it doesn't prove it.
BUT, look at Castleberry move the weight from side to side at 00:13 and 00:14. SEE IT. It's not possible. Not with that kind of weight.
Let's ask 500 lb benchers if they can move the weight that easily from side to side.
Ok?
Then let's ask 600 lb benchers if they can.
Now, consider it's 675.
Please explain DC, you're so learned aren't you...you must know.
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excellent point......could'nt believe those guys would be so proud of themselves. I bet they go around saying 405 is just warm ups... :-X do they really feeling a sense of achievement?? ???
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La Fitness rubber weights is the answer to your question..
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so are those really 45lb plates??? ::)
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La Fitness rubber weights is the answer to your question..
I think so too.
BUT, do you KNOW this for sure?
And what about the user who went to the gym and didn't find "fake" plates?
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They are NOT FAKE. thay are just NOT 45lbs
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They are NOT FAKE. thay are just NOT 45lbs
ya the plates are legit...its just they are probably 25 or 35lbs
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They keep the bumper plates in an office or storage room. at least at every gym i've trained at they did.
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I think so too.
BUT, do you KNOW this for sure?
And what about the user who went to the gym and didn't find "fake" plates?
I went to La Fitness and curled their 100 pound dumbbells for 15 clean reps.. It says 100 on them.. I was really strong that day, or those rubber weights are marked up to shut those guys up that cry about how they need bigger weights.. Trust me these iron heavy weights ruin the gyms floor and the weights themselves..
If you want to see how bad the heavy weight is to a gyms floor, come to my gym.. AND I have 2 layers of 1/2 inch rubber flooring..
It's smart of LA fitness, but these guys get a big head till they go to a real gym..
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lol that is ridiculous!!
I wonder what Dante Doggcrapp has to say about this info....
ARMZ, is it that very gym you went to - not just A LA fitness gym?
what about his 765 lb squat?
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I went to La Fitness and curled their 100 pound dumbbells for 15 clean reps.. It says 100 on them.. I was really strong that day, or those rubber weights are marked up to shut those guys up that cry about how they need bigger weights.. Trust me these iron heavy weights ruin the gyms floor and the weights themselves..
If you want to see how bad the heavy weight is to a gyms floor, come to my gym.. AND I have 2 layers of 1/2 inch rubber flooring..
It's smart of LA fitness, but these guys get a big head till they go to a real gym..
I know dumbells, plates and bars from different companies all weight a LITTLE different but they should not vary SO MUCH that a person's 1 rep max increases by 70%.......man even difference of 10% is big.... >:(
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What I don't get is if La Fitness marks their plates different, then why does Doggcrapp say the weights are correct?
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lol that is ridiculous!!
I wonder what Dante Doggcrapp has to say about this info....
ARMZ, is it that very gym you went to - not just A LA fitness gym?
what about his 765 lb squat?
LA Fitness isn't a Franchise, so I'm sure all the equipment is the same at all their locations..
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dante
i used to think you were a serious trainer with integrity. :-[
thanks for exposing yourself as a coward, a liar and a joke. needless to say, doggcrapp is a very appropriate name.
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I went to La Fitness and curled their 100 pound dumbbells for 15 clean reps.. It says 100 on them.. I was really strong that day, or those rubber weights are marked up to shut those guys up that cry about how they need bigger weights.. Trust me these iron heavy weights ruin the gyms floor and the weights themselves..
If you want to see how bad the heavy weight is to a gyms floor, come to my gym.. AND I have 2 layers of 1/2 inch rubber flooring..
It's smart of LA fitness, but these guys get a big head till they go to a real gym..
I do agree that iron weights have a heavier "feel" to them but i have personally weighed the rubber coated weights at LA fitness and they are on the money. i think it's more of a balance issue and the way they are made.
again, i agree the LA weights feel a little lighter but i've weighed the plates and several DB's and they were on the money.
Castleberry is using 25 pound bumper plates meant for olympic lifts, they are more popular in Europe but i've seen them in alot of US gyms.
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Alex what time did you go.....I just got back....I saw my employee there and he said they did back today and was there from 4pm-6pm.
I asked him if he saw a guy with longer blonde hair around and he said he hadnt.
He said they did back today and ended with deadlifts in the far corner and Brad did 600 plus for 7 reps and I hope you saw that.
Went there right after I emailed you, must've been there 2:30 - 3:30 or so.
I'll drop by today around 4-4:30. Can I get a free pass this time ;D ?
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Went there right after I emailed you, must've been there 2:30 - 3:30 or so.
I'll drop by today around 4-4:30. Can I get a free pass this time ;D ?
Have Castleberry bench 585 with real plates...
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I do agree that iron weights have a heavier "feel" to them but i have personally weighed the rubber coated weights at LA fitness and they are on the money. i think it's more of a balance issue and the way they are made.
again, i agree the LA weights feel a little lighter but i've weighed the plates and several DB's and they were on the money.
Castleberry is using 25 pound bumper plates meant for olympic lifts, they are more popular in Europe but i've seen them in alot of US gyms.
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Yes, I know I have the same ones that he's using in the video..
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yeah...castle and company used 25lb plates but titled their youtube clips to be a 45lb plate total. That tells a lot about about them....
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yeah...castle and company used 25lb plates but titled their youtube clip to be a 45lb plate total. That tells a lot about about them....
and of course dante didn't know that, seeing as they are his weights from his gym. ::)
fucking lying fat fuck.
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It makes sense really - imagine all the publicity Castleclown is getting from these clips.
Castleberry does not look tHICK or STRONG to any noteworthy degree. I believe he'd snap under those weights.
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It makes sense really - imagine all the publicity Castleclown is getting from these clips.
Castleberry does not look tHICK or STRONG to any noteworthy degree. I believe he'd snap under those weights.
and it gives more exposure to dante, but unfortunately for him, it won't be good exposure.
doggcrapp = fraud
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and of course dante didn't know that, seeing as they are his weights from his gym. ::)
fucking lying fat fuck.
Worst thing about it is the sheer wall of text he puts into his replies trying to make us believe the lies, i honestly think hes trying to convince himself aswell, its really strange behaviour, especially as some of the people whos disputed his claims are people who know exactly what they are talking about
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Why is DANTE even arguing that point of view?
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Why is DANTE even arguing that point of view?
He cant help it, he melts at the drop of a hat.
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Went there right after I emailed you, must've been there 2:30 - 3:30 or so.
I'll drop by today around 4-4:30. Can I get a free pass this time ;D ?
Let us know if he pays up.
-Hedge
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Let us know if he pays up.
-Hedge
yeah right. alex is a lying c unt.
we're talking about a guy that claimed to have met up with squadfather for a workout (when nobody knew wtf squad actually looked like) saying how big and cut he was in person, etc, 'no joke', etc.
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yeah right. alex is a lying c unt.
we're talking about a guy that claimed to have met up with squadfather for a workout (when nobody knew wtf squad actually looked like) saying how big and cut he was in person, etc, 'no joke', etc.
I remember that post
he said something like "he is a pretty big guy with abs outlines"..LOL
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Another thing i noticed is he doesn't use wrist wraps...
675 with no wrist support... ::)
Ryan Kennely couldn't do that.
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I didn't even think about that - no wrist wraps! lol
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yeah right. alex is a lying c unt.
we're talking about a guy that claimed to have met up with squadfather for a workout (when nobody knew wtf squad actually looked like) saying how big and cut he was in person, etc, 'no joke', etc.
Sometimes you have to show some faith. 8)
If Dante DOGGCRAPP personally witnesses a full benchpress by Dingleberry with 585 lbs and don't think there's anything funky going on, I will pay him.
If Dingleberry can't, I expect Dante to either admit he was wrong or to pay up.
-Hedge
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yeah right. alex is a lying c unt.
we're talking about a guy that claimed to have met up with squadfather for a workout (when nobody knew wtf squad actually looked like) saying how big and cut he was in person, etc, 'no joke', etc.
You must be a pretty quick witted individual.
You make very good distinction between me fucking around and me living 10mins from that actual place.
I'm dropping by later.
Make sure you spend your satruday in front of your computer.
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If Dante DOGGCRAPP personally witnesses a full benchpress by Dingleberry with 585 lbs and don't think there's anything funky going on, I will pay him.
To be fair he has repeatedly said it was a heavy spot, he didn't say the spot was worth 100lbs AT MOST. He said it could be 100 or 200 pounds but strong regardless. I doubt the 765 dead though as he did only 650 in march. As I said, very strong but far from 765.
I don't think it's so smart to vouch for him being natural though. He doesn't know him at all. No big bodyweight jump means nothing. Designer steroids are OTC, available everywhere, don't cause you to bloat with 20lbs of water overnight but sure as hell can make you a lot stronger. Legal in Musclemania too as far as I can tell. Like a guy like this wouldn't be tempted to dabble in them when they are legal both in competition and otherwise. The chance of him not doing it is small IMO if he is competitive.
How can you vouch for someone you don't know? Because they compete in Musclemania? Please.
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HAHAHAAHAHAHAH I just read this whole thread... what a joke.
DOGGCRAPP is a nutter.
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Sometimes you have to show some faith. 8)
If Dante DOGGCRAPP personally witnesses a full benchpress by Dingleberry with 585 lbs and don't think there's anything funky going on, I will pay him.
If Dingleberry can't, I expect Dante to either admit he was wrong or to pay up.
-Hedge
ha ha
you've got a better chance of seeing adonis actually posting his d/lift claims than that happening.
dante should just drop the dogg part of the name. then, for once, he would be spot on. ;)
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Bump...
I refuse to let this thread die!!!
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I like this thread. You learn so much about the southern states.
My friend told me that when he visited the states everyone was benching 3 plates on the incline like its nothing!
I hope I am not disapointed.
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I like this thread. You learn so much about the southern states.
My friend told me that when he visited the states everyone was benching 3 plates on the incline like its nothing!
I hope I am not disapointed.
hahahahahaha, where did he visit? that sure as shit don't happen anywhere i've ever been.
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hahahahahaha, where did he visit? that sure as shit don't happen anywhere i've ever been.
Not sure. Maybe it was LA Fitness?
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Not sure. Maybe it was LA Fitness?
physique wise you'd blow away 97 percent of people i see going into most gyms here in the states.
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physique wise you'd blow away 97 percent of people i see going into most gyms here in the states.
Thanks bro.
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Embrassingly fake. Dude's a retard.
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Dantes credibility is now zero, nice try strudle you did ok selling your stolen ideas for a while but now everyone knows your a fraud.
Do you ever wonder why you always get targeted on this website? cuz you talk shit.
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physique wise you'd blow away 97 percent of people i see going into most gyms here in the states.
I think Alexx should fly down here for a couple of days. Stage in St-Louis and get a good cock cleansing from SF ;).
We'll leave you guys alone and spend some quality time together 8)
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I think this looks a little too easy, especially with no spotters. The 115's at my LA Fitness look a little different. I think I am going to take a picture of them and the 45 lb plates (since I forgot before) so we can all get a look.
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they didnt zoom the camera close enough to read whether they are 120s or not but big deal anyways. He inclined pressed 120s for 11 reps. Thats a respectable lift but this just proves he cant do 6 or 7 plates on bench with no spotter. I can incline 110s for 11 reps and cant get anywhere near 6 plates. He just proved he's full of shit.
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He probably can bench right around 400lbs based on that lift which is good but no 600lbs or whatever nonesence he claimed with his 3 spotters lifting it for him.
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It was a very steep incline press almost a shoulder press but he definatly used his chest and was at an angle. Regardless this still totally proves he could never lift 7 plates. He looks like he may be able to lift 125lbs on a steep incline. Its a good lift and like I said it puts his max around 400lbs on bench or maybe a little more.
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http://forum.athletes.com/fitshow/week28/week28lg.htm
This is REAL power... Shoulder pressing Mariusz style!!
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The 7 plates video was pretty stupid, You can see at first he has one spotter and his face is turning red. Once Brad and the spotter both couldnt get it up the two other spotters joined in and helped. If he really could do 7 plates he should just post a video of him doing 6 plates for 8 reps with no spotters at all or even 5 plates for 10 easy reps with no spotters. He cant though.
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i still laugh at these videos.
just watch how easily they slide the bar over on the racks with 675. i've spotted guys doing board presses in bench shirts with 635 and you CANNOT slide the bar over PERIOD. it would take 4 people to slide the bar left or right on the rack with that much weight.
FAKE plates!
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i still laugh at these videos.
just watch how easily they slide the bar over on the racks with 675. i've spotted guys doing board presses in bench shirts with 635 and you CANNOT slide the bar over PERIOD. it would take 4 people to slide the bar left or right on the rack with that much weight.
FAKE plates!
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I've seen another youtube vid of this kid and he's gettin ready to "press 585" and is asked "hey man, how much is that?" and he says, "I don't know fvckin.....fvckin 6 plates." I also love how he stretches wildly before he presses while looking around to make sure everyone is watching. I'd be surprised if he could put up 250lbs for 3.
This kid is a fvckin tool.
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I've seen another youtube vid of this kid and he's gettin ready to "press 585" and is asked "hey man, how much is that?" and he says, "I don't know fvckin.....fvckin 6 plates." I also love how he stretches wildly before he presses while looking around to make sure everyone is watching. I'd be surprised if he could put up 250lbs for 3.
This kid is a fvckin tool.
he's a tool alright and dante's a bigger tool for backing this crap.
seriously, with every post dante has made on this site all he has done has expose himself and everyone associated with him as a fraud.
dante = dogg crapp
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I am going in for back today and going to do some 6 plate BB rows, LA fitness style. I'll post the video later.
"How much is that cap?"
"Fuckin...Fuckin...6 plates."
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Fuck YEAH! That's how we do it in da 760 !!!
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He probably can bench right around 400lbs based on that lift which is good but no 600lbs or whatever nonesence he claimed with his 3 spotters lifting it for him.
Yes, he did 400 at the Arnold. Very strong for a toolbag like this I must say.
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Yes, he did 400 at the Arnold. Very strong for a toolbag like this I must say.
400 is fine but i will say this...A man that can only get a single with 400 wouldn't even try putting close to 700 pounds over his chest...This kid would get crushed by 500 pounds for crying out loud...And he wouldn't even move 500 pounds more then a few inches down...Hell he only put 500 pounds on his back at the arnold...Now a few months later we are to believe he can move that and more on the bench....That is just silly...
This kid could drop 10 anadrols a day for the next 8 weeks and he wouldn't come close to playing around with those kind of numbers...
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He obviously using some rubber weights because I cannot fathom a kid like that matching weight with Ronnie Coleman and Johnnie Jackson. In addition, I wouldn't have some Abrocrombie & Fitch twinkie as a spotter for that kind of weight because he would not have been able to do shit if it came down on his chest. Finally, his feet was coming off the ground which would have hampered his foundation for even completing an actual lift.
This is an obviously bullshit lift and DC should be ashamed of himself for defending him. He may have had maybe 4 metal plates but the rest were obviously rubber weight. Doggcrapp, you of all people should be able to identify a fraud
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He obviously using some rubber weights because I cannot fathom a kid like that matching weight with Ronnie Coleman and Johnnie Jackson. In addition, I wouldn't have some Abrocrombie & Fitch twinkie as a spotter for that kind of weight because he would not have been able to do shit if it came down on his chest. Finally, his feet was coming off the ground which would have hampered his foundation for even completing an actual lift.
This is an obviously bullshit lift and DC should be ashamed of himself for defending him. He may have had maybe 4 metal plates but the rest were obviously rubber weight. Doggcrapp, you of all people should be able to identify a fraud
The proof is in his legit lifts at the arnold just a few months back from the video...Why Doggcrapp wants to ignore that is truely amazing...The guy benches 400 and squats 500...Thats what he can do...Very good deadlift though...
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He obviously using some rubber weights because I cannot fathom a kid like that matching weight with Ronnie Coleman and Johnnie Jackson. In addition, I wouldn't have some Abrocrombie & Fitch twinkie as a spotter for that kind of weight because he would not have been able to do shit if it came down on his chest. Finally, his feet was coming off the ground which would have hampered his foundation for even completing an actual lift.
This is an obviously bullshit lift and DC should be ashamed of himself for defending him. He may have had maybe 4 metal plates but the rest were obviously rubber weight. Doggcrapp, you of all people should be able to identify a fraud
and you obviously havent read my posts on this thread have you? LOL (I have no idea what he can bench legitimately--I see the same things everyone else does--2 guys pulling up on the ends and one guy pulling up in the middle)....Im defending the weights in that gym, which are 45 pound plates and not fake. Amazing how people jump in an argument without reading any of it.
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and you obviously havent read my posts on this thread have you? LOL (I have no idea what he can bench legitimately--I see the same things everyone else does--2 guys pulling up on the ends and one guy pulling up in the middle)....Im defending the weights in that gym, which are 45 pound plates and not fake. Amazing how people jump in an argument without reading any of it.
are you really arguing with Vince Goodrum ?! ;D
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and you obviously havent read my posts on this thread have you? LOL (I have no idea what he can bench legitimately--I see the same things everyone else does--2 guys pulling up on the ends and one guy pulling up in the middle)....Im defending the weights in that gym, which are 45 pound plates and not fake. Amazing how people jump in an argument without reading any of it.
45 lb bumper plates like that are much fatter. You couldn't fit that many 45lb bumper plates.
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what a bunch of lying morons...i'll post a video of me squatting sometime today....at least my plates are not fake . That dumb ass wouldn't even be able to stand up off the rack with that much weight.
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hahhahahahhaahahahhaaha...nice barbell row by his spotter
SpotterS! There's 3 of those guys and the weight doesn't start moving up until they're all helping. What a gay, what's the point?
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I think he's the trying out for musclehunnks.com or some G4P site...he's getting a lot of good exposure through this
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If this kid is benching fake plates then it shows how much of a tool he really is - whatever that bar with weights on it weighs, he still struggled. He looks like he could probably push 300 max - and that's with spotters.
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Why would I be cursing anything, none of those guys have anything to do with me, I dont train them....I've never even spoken to any of them except one. Here are the facts
1) Those arent fake plates. I lift in that gym...those are the plates
2) Those guys lift like idiots and screw around, didnt i say that in my first post and every post since?
3) That kid is 100% natural (known around here for years, which you guys wouldnt know about) and is 5'10" 240 lean and if he ever did things correctly would really impress a shitload of people because he is astronomically strong (for some strange wierd reason they lift the way they do, I got no idea why)
4) That kid was deadlifting 7-8 plates each side the other day--how do you cheat that up?
My point was and has always been "look at the genetic differences in these people who all lift together and do the same things"....how they lift has nothing to do with me
I think my point is even more proven....look at the screwy way they lift and this kid weighs a lean 5'10" 240 = awesome genetics
Have a field day on them, I dont care, I think how they lift is stupid too...but I do know that one kid is a strong MF
Listen ..I don't know who u are trying to with but here's my oppinion : the kid is not 240, he is not natural , he cannot bench more than 350 for a single , he cannot squat more than 500 for a single and I think he is more around the 450 mark...he is a strong kd no doubt but he is no phenom that's fr sure...he is cocky and hyped up...if he wants to prove anything lift without a spot and if he puts 100 lbs less on all those lifts I think he'll have met-rx bang on his door.U are full of shit.
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I didn' read the whole thread and someone may have noted this before but...look at how easy he slides the bar before lift off..you can't slid 405lb that easy
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I didn' read the whole thread and someone may have noted this before but...look at how easy he slides the bar before lift off..you can't slid 405lb that easy
it has, but you're spot on and this is why i know dante's full of crapp when he vouches for the weight lifted.
he's been around long enough to know that wasn't close to being legitemate.
hell, if he'd been to just one p/lifting meet he'd know that.
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I didn' read the whole thread and someone may have noted this before but...look at how easy he slides the bar before lift off..you can't slid 405lb that easy
Exactly.
Why is it so hard to fathom for DANTO DOGGCLOWN?
Brad Dingleberry wants to sell DVDs and make a career. So they used drill plates - brought along OR belonging to the gym - and made some vids.
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They should hang out with this nut
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Sorry bitches, none of the weights are fake. I trained at LA fitness in Vista a couple of times since then. I even made a fool of myself and weighted a rubber plate which felt lighter, 45.0lb on the spot. The fat plates are the regular plates over there.
I'm not the one making threads after threads about this so don't call me obsessed. I'm just curious 'cause all the drama happens to be around the corner from my house.
If that would make you guys sleep better, I'm checking out the one on Twin Oaks tomorow afternoon (they just opened). If I see Brad, I'll ask him if he wants to push another lift in front of my videocam for you bitches.
13 pages later somebody actually got the balls to check it out themselves, metal plates with a thin film of rubber on them. Anybody here know where to get fake plates with the same "faded" rubber coating that looks exactly identical to the other plates in that LA Fitness? Yea I didnt think so because Ive been around the block and I only know of fake metal plates used for photo shoots.
Now Alex, that guy gets my respect. Marvin and Beast, dont know what to say, its just got to suck to be so adamant and passionate about the subject for 13 pages and then having to eat crow once again.
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13 pages later somebody actually got the balls to check it out themselves, metal plates with a thin film of rubber on them. Anybody here know where to get fake plates with the same "faded" rubber coating that looks exactly identical to the other plates in that LA Fitness? Yea I didnt think so because Ive been around the block and I only know of fake metal plates used for photo shoots.
Now Alex, that guy gets my respect. Marvin and Beast, dont know what to say, its just got to suck to be so adamant and passionate about the subject for 13 pages and then having to eat crow once again.
hey fat fuck, get off my dick. i've given this thread about 5 minutes attention and it was enough to see you and your fat ass all over dingleberry's nutsack.
go out and get a life. you're obsessed with this kid. what, did he kiss you after you sucked his cock and now you're in love? :'(
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hey fat fuck, get off my dick. i've given this thread about 5 minutes attention and it was enough to see you and your fat ass all over dingleberry's nutsack.
go out and get a life. you're obsessed with this kid. what, did he kiss you after you sucked his cock and now you're in love? :'(
Hahaha another Internet rainbow warrior.
I bet you're the kind of guy who comes by and appologizes about his internet comments when meeting in person.
I'll be at the NPC in LA this weekend. Anyone, don't be shy and come say hello.
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Hahaha another Internet rainbow warrior.
I bet you're the kind of guy who comes by and appologizes about his internet comments when meeting in person.
I'll bet at the NPC in LA this weekend. Anyone, don't be shy and come say hello.
i'd love to be but i'll be over at the other side of the world this weekend. ::)
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At the Arnold Weekend 2007:
242 Class Brad Castleberry Squat:502 Benchpress:402 Deadlift:650 Total = 1554 lbs
A 250+ lbs increase in the squat in a few months?
Time for Dante to wake up and smell the coffee, I think.
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Bump for the Dingleberry fanboys.
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Bump for the Dingleberry fanboys.
Maybe hes taking Animal-Pak now?
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Bump for the Dingleberry fanboys.
None of teh videos work :'(
Jason
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i still say those plates aren't real, look at it this way even Ronnie Coleman couldn't come close to that even with the spotters, if this guy can really bench 675 like it's nothing why are his arms only 17 inches? come on you can tell the way he lays down on the bench that he isn't taking it seriously.
Of course you don't. Aren't you the one who talks about everyone else yet doesn't lift himself. Have we ever seen a pic of you lifting. All you can do is talk. That comes to ZERO creditability. Hope this helps you pathetic loser. hahahaha 2008 is going to be banner year for SquadPussy.
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Of course you don't. Aren't you the one who talks about everyone else yet doesn't lift himself. Have we ever seen a pic of you lifting. All you can do is talk. That comes to ZERO creditability. Hope this helps you pathetic loser. hahahaha 2008 is going to be banner year for SquadPussy.
Who's throwing out the first attack? Sounds like you won't let go of last year. :'(
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Who's throwing out the first attack? Sounds like you won't let go of last year. :'(
Wrong! Check the other threads. And plus Squadussy deserves all the shit he gets. He has NO crediability on this board yet he thinks he does. He needs a reality check. As long as he can hide behind a computer he'll be fine. He can't even post a pic of himself. hahahah the guy is pathetic.
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Wrong! Check the other threads. And plus Squadussy deserves all the shit he gets. He has NO crediability on this board yet he thinks he does. He needs a reality check. As long as he can hide behind a computer he'll be fine. He can't even post a pic of himself. hahahah the guy is pathetic.
You're to caught up on credibility on the internet, especially for a guy that "lost" all the pictures that prove all his claims. :-\
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The truth is already out 8)
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You're to caught up on credibility on the internet, especially for a guy that "lost" all the pictures that prove all his claims. :-\
and the funniest and most pathetic part is he still tries to put people down for being "fat"-----oh the hilarious irony on the internet
onlyme is the most bitter person on Getbig-------how many hours (more like months :-\) has he wasted of his life stalking squad and adonis---and his most reoccurring insult about squad is that he's "fat"
hahaha nothing like a 600lb man who lives in his bed calling people fat
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and the funniest and most pathetic part is he still tries to put people down for being "fat"-----oh the hilarious irony on the internet
onlyme is the most bitter person on Getbig-------how many hours (more like months :-\) has he wasted of his life stalking squad and adonis---and his most reoccurring insult about squad is that he's "fat"
hahaha nothing like a 600lb man who lives in his bed calling people fat
I never had a problem with him, but it makes me laugh. He did a commerical and bench presses but he's the only one to ever accomplish anything and he makes fun of Squad, TA, Leafy etc, guys who look ten times better than him and his stories of a game of cribbage with Wayne Gretzky, Mr.T and Phil Collins in 1984. I feel bad for him.
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I never had a problem with him, but it makes me laugh. He did a commerical and bench presses but he's the only one to ever accomplish anything and he makes fun of Squad, TA, Leafy etc, guys who look ten times better than him and his stories of a game of cribbage with Wayne Gretzky, Mr.T and Phil Collins in 1984. I feel bad for him.
exactly
I dont think he understands how bitter and pathetic he comes off
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exactly
I dont think he understands how bitter and pathetic he comes offis
Thats the best part.
Jason