I have been reading many opinions and comments on the subject of who believes in what and what is truth as it pertains to religion?I hear ya, Hustle Man. I've had people get upset at me just for praying for them. To me, that's just a rebellious spirit within a person who has not ever experienced the true relationship with God.
It seems that the so called strong minded individuals (The non-Christians. etc.) have a hard time with the so called weak minded individuals (Believers in Jesus) and what they purport to believe.
Why does this upset so many so called "unbelievers?" Are you trying to make us change or become unbelievers and if so why would you endeavor to do so?
What is your goal here “on getbig” and do you wish everyone would keep their beliefs to themselves or just not talk about Christianity?
I have no patience with people that have no grasp of the word tolerance.But this statement alone is a judgement, is it not? :-\ To have no patience means to be intolerant or to be bigoted.
But this statement alone is a judgement, is it not. :-\ To have no patience means to be intolerant or to be bigoted.Sorry I was speaking about judging people based on religion and there choice. IE "you don't think like I do therefor you are wrong per this book I am holding." I am more free in the belief that I may not have all the answers and I can give you my opinion and base it regarding to me but to then think your less if you choose something different is wrong.
Sorry I was speaking about judging people based on religion and there choice. IE "you don't think like I do therefor you are wrong per this book I am holding." I am more free in the belief that I may not have all the answers and I can give you my opinion and base it regarding to me but to then think your less if you choose something different is wrong.None of us are finished products, bro. We are all a work in progress. Even the ones who think they're better than the guy standing next to them. ;)
I am judgemental and intolerant and flawed to a great extent, I am human and it is expected of me. I work each day to be the person I am expect to but god IMHO knows whats in my heart and understand when and why I fail.
That is why I am intolerant of others who do not have the capicity of being tolerant to others because they may think or believe something else.I am not a finished product nor claim to be.
I have been reading many opinions and comments on the subject of who believes in what and what is truth as it pertains to religion?
It seems that the so called strong minded individuals (The non-Christians. etc.) have a hard time with the so called weak minded individuals (Believers in Jesus) and what they purport to believe.
Why does this upset so many so called "unbelievers?" Are you trying to make us change or become unbelievers and if so why would you endeavor to do so?
What is your goal here “on getbig” and do you wish everyone would keep their beliefs to themselves or just not talk about Christianity?
I won't turn a blind eye to logic and reason which is something i see many "self righteous believers" do in combination with judging and condemning.I was wondering when you were gonna jump in on this conversation. ;)
I was wondering when you were gonna jump in on this conversation. ;)Thought police... ;D
Question: aren't you judging and condemning with this statement? :-\
Thought police... ;Dlol I thought about it before I even posted. lol ;D I thought for sure someone would bring it up. hahahaha
I see a full spectrum of weak and strong minded people in organized religion, unorganized religion and people who don;t believe in GOD.
I think only a very small percentage of people will ever change their beliefs on this board. The object is to debate and discuss religion, not to convert. So when i refute someone's assertion by yelling BS or what ever, it's in that spirit only. I won't turn a blind eye to logic and reason which is something i see many "self righteous believers" do in combination with judging and condemning.
I was wondering when you were gonna jump in on this conversation. ;)
Question: aren't you judging and condemning with this statement? :-\
I have noticed that you throw the term "belief/believe in God" around alot, Whom are you referring to when you say "God" I am curious?
See most people I have talked to have no problem with me inserting "God" into my comments or statements but let me say "Jesus" then the fight is on.
Why is this?
I am referring to "God". I can only assume that you believe Jesus is God also?
I don't have a problem of you inserting Jesus.....after all God is inside all of us... ;) I need a reference for this please
I do have a problem with you stating the "Bible" is the 100% word of God if that is in fact what you say....for then i will debate these things with you. What other word of God do you know of, hence the previous question ...Whom are you referring to when you say "God"?
I am referring to "God".Prayer for me is 100% Belief is 100% a book written by men to control men is a good read.
I don't have a problem of you inserting Jesus.....after all God is inside all of us... ;)
I do have a problem with you stating the "Bible" is the 100% word of God if that is in fact what you say....for then i will debate these things with you. But i will never debate the existence of God or his existence in side all of us.
I suppose you are right if you take into account the pure meanings of the terms.When you debate the validity of the Bible, you argue because of the literal terminology, right? But you are right, the blind eye is what precedes condemnation.
The main point of the that statement is the logic and reason part. When we turn a blind to it AND THEN condem and judge.
Prayer for me is 100% Belief is 100% a book written by men to control men is a good read.Even if you were to read the bible as a historical document you'd have to come to the conclusion that these "men" were inspired to write based on the one that you believe in and pray to with 100% conviction. Would you agree to that?
When you debate the validity of the Bible, you argue because of the literal terminology, right? But you are right, the blind eye is what precedes condemnation.
Not entirely. My main contention is some of the "god" described in the Bible isn't God, it contradicts its self, and therefor the bible isn't the 100% WOG.But you use literal terms of scripture to come to the conclusion that it's contradictory, don't you?
But you use literal terms of scripture to come to the conclusion that it's contradictory, don't you?
Even if you were to read the bible as a historical document you'd have to come to the conclusion that these "men" were inspired to write based on the one that you believe in and pray to with 100% conviction. Would you agree to that?They may have been inspired but to many fingers are in the cake now. I think the bible is a tool. nothing more or less. without action a tool is useless. without a tool you can't build. without thought of the grand desire you have no idea when to start and stop.It's part of the process not the process. It's a outline for a story not the book of life. It sets you on the path but you need action to walk it.
Not entirely. My main contention is some of the "god" described in the Bible isn't God, it contradicts its self, and therefor the bible isn't the 100% WOG.
What percent of the bible is WOG and which is not WOG? Which God do you pray to the lower or higher percent God?
huh? I don;t understand what you mean there in bold. You wrote: "My main contention is some of the "god" described in the Bible isn't God, it contradicts its self, and therefor the bible isn't the 100% WOG." This is why I asked "Which God do you pray to, the lower or higher percent God?"
On the percent of the WOG:
I believe anything pretty much, (there might be some instance that says otherwise) that produces a victim is wrong. "Do on to others"
The parts in the Bible that condemn a chosen path that produces no victims i believe is cultural BS of the times when it was written.
So take the issues of the day: Murdering 3000 people = SIN, Offering up virgin daughters to an angry mob in the story of Sodom = SIN, Pre-marital sex, birth control, how women dress...etc....
I get you now, (I think) you see injustice in stories like you mentioned above and you believe those stories to be hypocritical and not indicative of God's true nature or character, which is LOVE?
I pray to God. There's no lower or higher percentage. God is God regardless of what the bible says or anyone else says.
I don;t think GOD's true nature is LOVE in the sense you may be getting at (a big forgiving teddy bear). But i don't think his true nature is human emotions such as Jealousy, anger etc.... he's beyond that. This is worth a new topic, good point! We are his children, his creation and he is allowing us to live a life on earth giving us the opportunity through this life to grow spiritually. In that, we get challenged all this time in the course of our lives. How we deal those challenges is how we grow spiritually. for example: Teenagers ;D