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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The Squadfather on June 27, 2007, 03:59:07 PM
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i'm so sick of hearing people talk about how "congress" and the "government" needs to get involved in pro wrestling, major league baseball, pro football, etc. fucck that bullshit, the government is already too intrusive in peoples private lives, what a person puts into their own body is their business and they pay the repurcussions for what they do, it's that simple.
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hehe. people do pay the repercussions for their actions esp in america too... with you guys having to rely on the insurance industry to decide who gets medical care. if u r poor and get screwed up in the USA then you're out of luck... anyone seen that Michael Moore documentary Sicko? I feel sorry for u guys...
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if they really cared they would go after bigger problems like alcohol and cigarrettes
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agreed with squadfather. And climber I dont think you are an american, but michael moore is an idiot and you shouldnt take any of his work seriously.
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i'm so sick of hearing people talk about how "congress" and the "government" needs to get involved in pro wrestling, major league baseball, pro football, etc. fucck that bullshit, the government is already too intrusive in peoples private lives, what a person puts into their own body is their business and they pay the repurcussions for what they do, it's that simple.
i will invade your private life pretty soon budd, getbig will become worldwide recognised after this.
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if they really cared they would go after bigger problems like alcohol and cigarrettes
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Fucking worthless war on drugs..
Congressmen drink their Jack Daniels(far worse than roids) and they whine about steroids - which btw they know VERY LITTLE about.
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hehe. people do pay the repercussions for their actions esp in america too... with you guys having to rely on the insurance industry to decide who gets medical care. if u get screwed up and are poor over then you're out of luck... anyone seen that Michael Moore documentary Sicko? I feel sorry for u guys...
Indeed. The health care system over here is in shambles. It has been taken over by big business and is protected by Daddy Bush.
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tell your sister to have the lube ready this time. i'm tired of getting blood on my dick.
Brutal quoting the wrong person! :D
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agreed with squadfather. And climber I dont think you are an american, but michael moore is an idiot and you shouldnt take any of his work seriously.
oh, that's the first i've heard of that... you really think he's just a crank?
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Brutal quoting the wrong person! :D
oh shit, my bad dude, i was trying to quote "el mariachi". ;D
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i will invade your private life pretty soon budd, getbig will become worldwide recognised after this.
tell your sister to have the lube ready this time little bitch.
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oh shit, my bad dude, i was trying to quote "el mariachi". ;D
hahaha I know man.
Better watch out or Elfagiachi will write your name on a sheet of paper! This time he'll go a step further and xerox the fucking threat. ;D
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hahaha I know man.
Better watch out or Elfagiachi will write your name on a sheet of paper! This time he'll go a step further and xerox the fucking threat. ;D
hahahahaha, epic leaving a paper trail of evidence.
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i heard this today:
"did you hear about that wrestler guy?"
"yeah he killed his family"
"it was roids dude. he was on everything you can imagine"
"yeah that shit makes you crazy"
"i know, right. thats why baseball player hit better when they take them, because they are real angry"
WOW.
then i was like, "hey man, what roids was he on?"
and the guy says, "all of them"
and i said, "wow, really? but do you know which ones?"
"well a lot of them for sure. probably creatine for sure"
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
people have no idea what they are talking about. >:(
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hehe. people do pay the repercussions for their actions esp in america too... with you guys having to rely on the insurance industry to decide who gets medical care. if u r poor and get screwed up in the USA then you're out of luck... anyone seen that Michael Moore documentary Sicko? I feel sorry for u guys...
I KNOW AUSTRALIA ,CANADA. HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE AND IT WORKS.......EVEN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE THEN THE USA....ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY HERE.....SICKO GREAT MOVIE...LIKE THE BIT WHERE NIXON AND THEM ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE AND THE HMO...ALL GREED.....
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I KNOW AUSTRALIA ,CANADA. HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE AND IT WORKS.......EVEN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE THEN THE USA....ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY HERE.....SICKO GREAT MOVIE...LIKE THE BIT WHERE NIXON AND THEM ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE AND THE HMO...ALL GREED.....
Indeed... jsut remember to vote democrat and get those filthy republicans bastards out of office.
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I KNOW AUSTRALIA ,CANADA. HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE AND IT WORKS.......EVEN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE THEN THE USA....ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY HERE.....SICKO GREAT MOVIE...LIKE THE BIT WHERE NIXON AND THEM ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE AND THE HMO...ALL GREED.....
heh, i reckon dude... you are completely right, same here in nz.. a couple of years ago i broke my arm here and everything was free.. they were throwing morphine and whatever at me for nothing.. If i was in the usa I would seriously want to get out of there just because of that (and bush). I thought sicko was good too.
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heh, i reckon dude... you are completely right, same here in nz.. a couple of years ago i broke my arm here and everything was free.. they were throwing morphine and whatever at me for nothing.. If i was in the usa I would seriously want to get out of there just because of that (and bush). I thought sicko was good too.
YEAH EVRYTIME I HAVE BEEN SICK GO TO HOSPITAL GET OUT DOSENT COST A THING....SURE YOU PAY IN TAXES...BUT IT WORKS OUT A LOT CHEAPER THEN HERE IN THE USA........LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE AND FAMILIES ARE PAYING FOR HEALTH CARE........I WOULD RATHER PAY A LITTLE MORE TAX..BE CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN......AMERICA IS MEANT TO BE THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND THEY CANT EVEN GET THIS RIGHT.............JUST LET YOUR PEOPLE DIE......GOOD WORK.......ALL GREED....FUC KIN SICK
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exactly, Michael Moore is just telling the painful truth. The poster who tried to discredit him needs to get his toungue out of Rush Limbaughs fat ass.
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Indeed... jsut remember to vote democrat and get those filthy republicans bastards out of office.
yeah, vote democrat so fags can have gay pride parades down the street of every city, and spanish becomes the official language of the US, and anyone too lazy to get a job can get a nice welfare check.
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Tobbaco is still on the shelves, jagermeister is on the shelves...
So a person can go drink jager till they pass out, and smoke till themselves and eveybody around them has cancer, but a person cant supplement hormones? I just dont get it. Why the hell does it get so much media attention? They should focous on more important things like meth and bethany.
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is that the best and only reason you can think of to vote GOP ? hahahaha ;D
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yeah, vote democrat so fags can have gay pride parades down the street of every city, and spanish becomes the official language of the US, and anyone too lazy to get a job can get a nice welfare check.
lol... are you an evangelical christian too?
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is that the best and only reason you can think of to vote GOP ? hahahaha ;D
Exactly hahahah... They make up myths and lies and try to scare people into voting republican. It is a silly party for silly selfish fat religious biggots.
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NOTHING WRONG WITH GAYS HURTS NOBODY WHAT THEY DO..................THE ENGLISH THING THOU THAT SHIT HAS TO STOP.............
http://www.filecabi.net/video/2209370489.html
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nah, im not religious at all. but i dont like fags, and i dont want to see illegal immigrants outnumber us americans in our own country, and im tired of seeing white trash with 5 kids on welfare. All of which the democrats support.
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NOTHING WRONG WITH GAYS HURTS NOBODY WHAT THEY DO..................THE ENGLISH THING THOU THAT SHIT HAS TO STOP.............
http://www.filecabi.net/video/2209370489.html
ha ha, i know better not to click o that link, but there are a lot suckas that will click it.
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nah, im not religious at all. but i dont like fags, and i dont want to see illegal immigrants outnumber us americans in our own country, and im tired of seeing white trash with 5 kids on welfare. All of which the democrats support.
Wrong... giving amnesty to immigrants allows us to tax them instead of having them live off our tax dollars for free. "Fags" have jsut the same right to be wed as straight people. Ever think that when one dies they'd like to inherit what the other has. Goverment should not enforce religion and religion should not be enforced on goverment. They don't mix. Your hate for "fags" is about as ignorant as hate for blacks.
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Indeed... jsut remember to vote democrat and get those filthy republicans bastards out of office.
amen
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nah, im not religious at all. but i dont like fags, and i dont want to see illegal immigrants outnumber us americans in our own country, and im tired of seeing white trash with 5 kids on welfare. All of which the democrats support.
America is a country made up of diversity and if you can't handle that i suggest you find an island full of white chritians somewhere where you can all pray to Jesus and President Bush and await the on coming destruction of the earth. Republicans and religion do more to hinder the progress of man kind and technology then any other single entity.
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Repubs scream welfare system, but clinton was the one who set the 2 yr limit on it to force all the lazy fatties to get a job.........repubs are mostly idiots.
Most of the country is lying in between the dems and repubs any way.
Will love to see "pinnochio" Bush leave office.
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I knew our healthcare system had gone to hell when I started seeing ads on TV for dick medicine.
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I knew our healthcare system had gone to hell when I started seeing ads on TV for dick medicine.
Yep, its all about the dollars......to hell with the people.. :'(
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nah, im not religious at all. but i dont like fags
dragonheart = self loather....
how do "fags" effect anything? most speak english, dont hurt the economy, cant biologically have children with each other for welfare.....
the worst they will do is make fun of your wardrobe.....
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dragonheart = self loather....
how do "fags" effect anything? most speak english, dont hurt the economy, cant biologically have children with each other for welfare.....
the worst they will do is make fun of your wardrobe.....
Its sick, and wrong. Little kids dont need to see 2 fags holding hands or making out when they go to the mall. If you defend fags you are really a closet homo imo, or have a few fag genes inside you
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Its sick, and wrong. Little kids dont need to see 2 fags holding hands or making out when they go to the mall. If you defend fags you are really a closet homo imo, or have a few fag genes inside you
LOL.....youre funny, not in a "ha ha" way......
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Its sick, and wrong. Little kids dont need to see 2 fags holding hands or making out when they go to the mall. If you defend fags you are really a closet homo imo, or have a few fag genes inside you
I GUESS...MY FATHER AND HIS PARTNER HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 25 YEARS....I GUESS THAT IS BAD....THEY DONT SHOW AFFECTION IN PUBLIC...LIKE A MAN AND WOMAN ..THEN HE GOES AND CHEATS SO DOES THE WIFE...LOOK AT THE DIVORCE RATE IN THE USA......PLEASE MEN AND WOMEN CANT EVEN STAY MARRIED...MARRIGE ISNT LIKE IT USE TO BE......SO IF TO SAME SEX COUPLES WANT TO HAVE A UNION SO THEY GET THE SAME RITES SO BE IT...WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE...SAME FOR ABORTION..IT'S HER CHOICE..NOT YOURS MINE OR THE GOVERMENT.......THEY HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS THEN PEOPLES PRESONAL LIVES......
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I GUESS...MY FATHER AND HIS PARTNER HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 25 YEARS....I GUESS THAT IS BAD....THEY DONT SHOW AFFECTION IN PUBLIC...LIKE A MAN AND WOMAN ..THEN HE GOES AND CHEATS SO DOES THE WIFE...LOOK AT THE DIVORCE RATE IN THE USA......PLEASE MEN AND WOMEN CANT EVEN STAY MARRIED...MARRIGE ISNT LIKE IT USE TO BE......SO IF TO SAME SEX COUPLES WANT TO HAVE A UNION SO THEY GET THE SAME RITES SO BE IT...WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE...SAME FOR ABORTION..IT'S HER CHOICE..NOT YOURS MINE OR THE GOVERMENT.......THEY HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS THEN PEOPLES PRESONAL LIVES......
personally I don't agree with fagism, but as long as it isn't put on display, who cares? I kinda feel the same way about abortion, I'm personally against it, but it's not my decision in a total strangers life.
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personally I don't agree with fagism, but as long as it isn't put on display, who cares? I kinda feel the same way about abortion, I'm personally against it, but it's not my decision in a total strangers life.
LOL
Public displays of fagism ;D
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i'm so sick of hearing people talk about how "congress" and the "government" needs to get involved in pro wrestling, major league baseball, pro football, etc. fucck that bullshit, the government is already too intrusive in peoples private lives, what a person puts into their own body is their business and they pay the repurcussions for what they do, it's that simple.
What sickens me is the fact that congress will make a stink about steroids but not alcohol abuse, rec drug abuse, etc. 1 tylenol/asperin contains more toxins then 1 shot of your AAS drug of choice. The amounts of steroids pro and rec bbdrs take is a drop in the bucket compared to the rec drug, alcohol, pain killer and anti-anxiety drug abuse. Thats how stupid in general people are.
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What sickens me is the fact that congress will make a stink about steroids but not alcohol abuse, rec drug abuse, etc. 1 tylenol/asperin contains more toxins then 1 shot of your AAS drug of choice. The amounts of steroids pro and rec bbdrs take is a drop in the bucket compared to the rec drug, alcohol, pain killer and anti-anxiety drug abuse. Thats how stupid in general people are.
i hear you but i'm talking about government staying out of our lives completely, that was what this country was originally founded on, what you do and what you want to put into your own body is yoru choice and trying to legislate what people put in their own bodies is pointless and futile.
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i hear you but i'm talking about government staying out of our lives completely, that was what this country was originally founded on, what you do and what you want to put into your own body is yoru choice and trying to legislate what people put in their own bodies is pointless and futile.
It's because it's easy to blaime steriods then it's not people to blame. benoit did not kill his family steriods did, bunch of crap. The goverment cannot even run itself but it sure does like to force it's moral finger up my ass. Whole place would be better run by ourselves and states rules.
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It's because it's easy to blaime steriods then it's not people to blame. benoit did not kill his family steriods did, bunch of crap. The goverment cannot even run itself but it sure does like to force it's moral finger up my ass. Whole place would be better run by ourselves and states rules.
in addition the peope blaming the WWE and Vince McMahon are fuccking morons, did people blame the NFL when OJ killed his wife and the other guy, come on gimme a fuccking break, Vince may be a scumbag but blaming him for this is stupid.
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in addition the peope blaming the WWE and Vince McMahon are fuccking morons, did people blame the NFL when OJ killed his wife and the other guy, come on gimme a fuccking break, Vince may be a scumbag but blaming him for this is stupid.
Exactly. Like Vince was handcuffed to this dumbass. he made the choices and did what he did.
Plus you should know OJ did what he did because of white people... ;D
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dragonheart = self loather....
how do "fags" effect anything? most speak english, dont hurt the economy, cant biologically have children with each other for welfare.....
the worst they will do is make fun of your wardrobe.....
LOL
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Exactly. Like Vince was handcuffed to this dumbass. he made the choices and did what he did.
Plus you should know OJ did what he did because of white people... ;D
you know i've seen Vince in interviews losing his temper but i can understand his anger when these clown reporters try to make some connection between him and these guys drug use, Vince said one time that if you have to put a needle in your ass to train and compete you should find another occupation.
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you know i've seen Vince in interviews losing his temper but i can understand his anger when these clown reporters try to make some connection between him and these guys drug use, Vince said one time that if you have to put a needle in your ass to train and compete you should find another occupation.
No shit! It's no different then football/baseball/basketball there are guys who will and guys who won't, it's a personal choice that should be left to that person. NO goverment or church should be able to tell me what the fuck I am doing with my body. The moment I lose my mind and go kill someone then punish me for being a idiot because that is who is responsible not a drug or a company or a owner or anything because I chose to do it.
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Its sick, and wrong. Little kids dont need to see 2 fags holding hands or making out when they go to the mall. If you defend fags you are really a closet homo imo, or have a few fag genes inside you
Grow up. Everyone knows that the people who dislike homosexuals the most are the ones with "a little fag in them" because they see a part of themselves that they are ashamed of. What do you care what people do in private? And trust me, no little kid is gong to be scarred by two human beings showing affection to each other.
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Its sick, and wrong. Little kids dont need to see 2 fags holding hands or making out when they go to the mall. If you defend fags you are really a closet homo imo, or have a few fag genes inside you
someone is a little TOO sensitive on this issue. ;)
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Funny shit right there, I hear this shit all the time too. You just gotta shake your head. The general public loves to swallow everything the fucking six o'clock news feeds them.
i heard this today:
"did you hear about that wrestler guy?"
"yeah he killed his family"
"it was roids dude. he was on everything you can imagine"
"yeah that shit makes you crazy"
"i know, right. thats why baseball player hit better when they take them, because they are real angry"
WOW.
then i was like, "hey man, what roids was he on?"
and the guy says, "all of them"
and i said, "wow, really? but do you know which ones?"
"well a lot of them for sure. probably creatine for sure"
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
people have no idea what they are talking about. >:(
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i hear you but i'm talking about government staying out of our lives completely, that was what this country was originally founded on, what you do and what you want to put into your own body is yoru choice and trying to legislate what people put in their own bodies is pointless and futile.
I agree with you.
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i hear you but i'm talking about government staying out of our lives completely, that was what this country was originally founded on, what you do and what you want to put into your own body is yoru choice and trying to legislate what people put in their own bodies is pointless and futile.
agree, but the argument is that you cant put things in your body that can potentially harm others.....
where the argument fails in govt is that cigarettes are legal...harming others from second hand smoke, and alcohol is legal.....and harms many ways....too many to count
the FACT is that they are both taxed to death.....making money for the wasps in govt.
weed....coke....meth.... ..all dirty...thay dont want any part of it
juice? makes you crazy squad....havent you read the reports??? ;) fucking ridiculous
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agree, but the argument is that you cant put things in your body that can potentially harm others.....
where the argument fails in govt is that cigarettes are legal...harming others from second hand smoke, and alcohol is legal.....and harms many ways....too many to count
the FACT is that they are both taxed to death.....making money for the wasps in govt.
weed....coke....meth.... ..all dirty...thay dont want any part of it
juice? makes you crazy squad....havent you read the reports??? ;) fucking ridiculous
bullshit, smoking doesn't hurt anyone but the smoker, if you don't like it go away from it, alcohol only hurts the person drinking it and don't give me this DWI bullshit either, plenty of sober people die in car accidents all the time, trying to legislate what people put into their own bodies is stupid.
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bullshit, smoking doesn't hurt anyone but the smoker, if you don't like it go away from it, alcohol only hurts the person drinking it and don't give me this DWI bullshit either, plenty of sober people die in car accidents all the time, trying to legislate what people put into their own bodies is stupid.
Amen brother! Let's all try to remember the principle this country was founded on! Freedom! The idea was to keep the government from interfering in our lives as much as possible. Especially when it comes to our bodies!
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bullshit, smoking doesn't hurt anyone but the smoker, if you don't like it go away from it, alcohol only hurts the person drinking it and don't give me this DWI bullshit either, plenty of sober people die in car accidents all the time, trying to legislate what people put into their own bodies is stupid.
come on dude...dont tell me you are gonna argue the "second hand smoke" conspiracy theory.....and a 3 year old kid cant "go away" from parents who smoke. were not just talking bars here....
and yes, old people are worse in many cases than drunks on the road...and the govt doesnt legislate them....but you cant say that drunk driving should not be prohibited...that just ignorant...
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come on dude...dont tell me you are gonna argue the "second hand smoke" conspiracy theory.....and a 3 year old kid cant "go away" from parents who smoke. were not just talking bars here....
and yes, old people are worse in many cases than drunks on the road...and the govt doesnt legislate them....but you cant say that drunk driving should not be prohibited...that just ignorant...
yes a 3 year old can walk away from it, my parents both smoked and i'm just fine and if you get caught driving drunk you go to jail that's the law so if you get caught don't cry that it's unfair but it doesn't mean that alcohol should be illegal to drink or posess.
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agreed. the government makes a clusterfuck out of everything it touches. they need a housecleaning more than anybody.
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yes a 3 year old can walk away from it, my parents both smoked and i'm just fine and if you get caught driving drunk you go to jail that's the law so if you get caught don't cry that it's unfair but it doesn't mean that alcohol should be illegal to drink or posess.
many can be fine....second hand smoke effects different people in different ways....my point was thay cant "just leave" like you said...
i think you missed my point in regard to the alcohol thing....i dont think it should be illegal at all........that why i was saying the govt is insane!!!!! drugs that are mind/ neuro altering are legal....but stuff like juice isnt????? doesnt make sense to me.
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come on dude...dont tell me you are gonna argue the "second hand smoke" conspiracy theory.....and a 3 year old kid cant "go away" from parents who smoke. were not just talking bars here....
and yes, old people are worse in many cases than drunks on the road...and the govt doesnt legislate them....but you cant say that drunk driving should not be prohibited...that just ignorant...
Wes, you gotta take the bad with the good. The concept here is that you don't want anyone legislating behavior (smoking LAWS, helmet LAWS, seatbelt LAWS) because eventually they will get around to legislating something that YOU want to do!
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oh, that's the first i've heard of that... you really think he's just a crank?
The healthcare system is by far the best in the world if you have health insurance which most people do. The hospitals, the technologies and healthcare workers here are the best by far. If you are poor you are fine. If you are rich you are fine. If you are middle income and uninsured or under insured you can be ruined financially.
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Indeed. The health care system over here is in shambles. It has been taken over by big business and is protected by Daddy Bush.
What have the Bush family to do with the healthcare system? Its been the way it is now way before either were in office.
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the government is already too intrusive in peoples private lives, what a person puts into their own body is their business and they pay the repurcussions for what they do, it's that simple.
Bunch of Bull. You can't make a blanket statement like that. That hypothetical person you speak of who you want to allow to put whatever he/she wants in his/her body because it's his/her body can and often does inflict pain or death on others due to their impaired judgement. yeah, go ahead shoot up and get behind the wheel because I can't tell you what you can or can't consume.
I can't remember the last time the government was intrusive in my life. Then again I have nothing to hide. I wish the government had more of a spine and stopped trying to be so appeasing.
As far as gays - ("not that there's anything wrong with that" ;D ;D) It's moraly wrong. There is a reason there is man and woman were created. Procreation. Having said that I have nothing against them and am not one who wishes to attempt to stop them from what they seek even though I don't agree with their way of life.
Good luck if you think the Libs are your answer.
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Bunch of Bull. You can't make a blanket statement like that. That hypothetical person you speak of who you want to allow to put whatever he/she wants in his/her body because it's his/her body can and often does inflict pain or death on others due to their impaired judgement. yeah, go ahead shoot up and get behind the wheel because I can't tell you what you can or can't consume.
I can't remember the last time the government was intrusive in my life. Then again I have nothing to hide. I wish the government had more of a spine and stopped trying to be so appeasing.
As far as gays - ("not that there's anything wrong with that" ;D ;D) It's moraly wrong. There is a reason there is man and woman were created. Procreation. Having said that I have nothing against them and am not one who wishes to attempt to stop them from what they seek even though I don't agree with their way of life.
Good luck if you think the Libs are your answer.
you don't consider having 33 percent of your income taken intrusive?
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Indeed... jsut remember to vote democrat and get those filthy republicans bastards out of office.
Big difference that will make. ::) Are you even old enough to vote?
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you don't consider having 33 percent of your income taken intrusive?
and you want them to take more for a healthcare system?
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and you want them to take more for a healthcare system?
i don't want them to take anything.
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you don't consider having 33 percent of your income taken intrusive?
or maybe tax the rich more?
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When are you guys going to realize that steroids kill!! I heard it on the news and our government is also telling us. Wake up people. >:(
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There is a reason there is man and woman were created. Procreation.
So do you think that a man and woman who get married but choose not to have children are immoral?
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So do you think that a man and woman who get married but choose not to have children are immoral?
No.
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So do you think that a man and woman who get married but choose not to have children are immoral?
this is an argument I have used on occasion. If the bible says that marriage is the only place where sex should take place and that sex is exclusively for procreations than naturally it can be assumed that childless couples are being immoral. It does say be fruitful and multiple. It does not state anywhere that sex is for or can be for personal enjoyment. My wife and I do not have nor do we want to have kids so I guess that makes us immoral. Also, there are a ton of documented cases of homosexuality in nature so to assume its unnatural is to have a limited understanding of nature.
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No.
You have invalidated your previous remark, "It's moraly wrong. There is a reason there is man and woman were created. Procreation." By your reasoning every time YOU have sex without procreating you are immoral. Have you ever used birth control of any kind? I assume you have.
So now tell me why it's wrong for two PEOPLE who feel affection for each other to express that affection and have a life together.
P.S. I am not gay, if that's what you are thinking. But I have good friends and family who are.
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you don't consider having 33 percent of your income taken intrusive?
Damn right it is!
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YEAH EVRYTIME I HAVE BEEN SICK GO TO HOSPITAL GET OUT DOSENT COST A THING....SURE YOU PAY IN TAXES...BUT IT WORKS OUT A LOT CHEAPER THEN HERE IN THE USA........LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE AND FAMILIES ARE PAYING FOR HEALTH CARE........I WOULD RATHER PAY A LITTLE MORE TAX..BE CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN......AMERICA IS MEANT TO BE THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND THEY CANT EVEN GET THIS RIGHT.............JUST LET YOUR PEOPLE DIE......GOOD WORK.......ALL GREED....FUC KIN SICK
You would rather pay 50% TAXES then cover your own med bills?
BTW... why do you go to the hospital when you are sick>>???? You must be one VERY UNhealthy person.
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You have invalidated your previous remark, "It's moraly wrong. There is a reason there is man and woman were created. Procreation." By your reasoning every time YOU have sex without procreating you are immoral.
I never said you have to procreate. And I never said that you should only have sex for the purpose of procreating. Let's not make silly assumptions. I'm simply pointing out that only a man and woman can procreate. And thus only a man and woman are meant to be together in that way. That, in part, is what I base my belief that being actively gay is immoral.
So now tell me why it's wrong for two PEOPLE who feel affection for each other to express that affection and have a life together.
see above. I believe it's immoral but I wouldn't try to stop them from doing what they do. Like in any other classification there are very good people who happen to be gay.
P.S. I am not gay
Not the prevailing word.... kidding ;)
But I have good friends and family who are.
I have a sister in law, one friend and business associates that are gay (that i know of). but that is not the issue. BTW my sis/law is one of the sexiest ladies you'll ever see. irrelevant but I thought I'd throw that out there anyway ;D
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You dont have to increase taxes to pay for universal healthcare. This is a red-herring argument designed to scare an already overtaxed middle class into doing nothing. All you have to do is redistribute the already collected tax money.
Right now our military budget exceeds the next 15 countries COMBINED. Out of every 1 dollar of tax money collected, approximately 51 cents goes to miltary or miltary related use.
Companies like the CIA, FBI, NSA and now homeland security have almost unlimited budgets (and thats just what they are legally forced to disclose). Right now you could pay for full college tuition for every American high school student with the amount of money it takes to keep our armed forces in Iraq for 2 weeks! Two weeks folks. Full four years of the best education system in America, for free. Would that help to make us more competitive in the global market?
The really sad part of our military spending is that it tends to go to the already rich and connected corporations for "special" projects like new bombers, laser equipment and other high-technology. Very little of it makes it to the families of the men and women doing the dying...their benefits are cut and curtailed as even now they are asked to do longer and longer tours.
Companies like Halliburton take billions of tax dollars providing a service that could be done cheaper (if there were open bid contracts) or even if they were handled by a specific government agency that had oversight and was responsible to the people.
It all depends on what the American people decide is more important. Space lasers, small tactical nukes, MOAB's, another carrier, more private outsourcing at inflated rates, or covering everyone medically on the current or even reduced tax setup.
Dont be fooled by the "news" corps who have a vested interest in promoting corporate policy on the national level and get "paid" by endless commericals selling Viagra. And don't be fooled by the rich politicians who can afford their own policy but usually take their "free" government paid healthcare.
Poll after poll for the last 25 years indicates an OVERWHELMING majority of voters, regardless of political strip, would like to see universal heathcare in this country. 70 to 75% is typically the response. This is of course why it doesn't make it to the political arena...ever! To qoute the New York Times, "It has no political support" (!) By political support, of course, they mean the corporations that stand to lose billions of subsidized tax payer money!
As an example, in the 2004 televies debates, John Kerry (the democrat???) never once brought up or remarked to a question about universal or any government sponsored health program. Not once...not in any of the three debates...not even in the "domestic policy" debate! These are the debates where we (the public) get to decide which multi-millionaire, backed by billionaire corps, will do the best job for us "little" people.
Why would that be?
There is no friend anywhere - Lao Tse
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I believe it's immoral...
You've still not made a good case for homosexuality's supposed immorality. Do you believe it's immoral only because it bothers you in some way? Do you believe it's immoral because homosexuality causes people to steal and kill? That's silly, of course, but would be a good reason to condemn it if it were true.
Do you see what I am getting at? You say you have no problem with gay people, and I believe you, BUT you have to slap an immorality sticker on them for no real reason you can define other than they can't procreate. Once again by your reasoning, heterosexual oral and anal sex is also immoral. Would you say that? If so, why? Because there is no procreation? Because it disgusts you? That's not enough of a reason.
I don't mean to pick on you, because there are people who post here who are far more intolerant than you, but I feel that you haven't completely examined your own biases.
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America is a country made up of diversity and if you can't handle that i suggest you find an island full of white chritians somewhere where you can all pray to Jesus and President Bush and await the on coming destruction of the earth. Republicans and religion do more to hinder the progress of man kind and technology then any other single entity.
They had that it was called america you idiot, thats exactly what he is saying hes against.
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Its not homosexuality that bugs me...its the level of promiscuity that you hear about among them that is sickening. Many have had hundreds and even thousands of partners, most of it unprotected. Some of them are also bisexual and spreading the diseases to the hetero population. People that do this dont give a damn about themselves or anyone else..that is extremely dangerous(and immoral)...not something I like to think about. Maybe not being allowed to marry is part of the cause of this..?? anyhow if gay marraige was allowed I could see how some of this behavior might stop...if they were able to commit to each other in that way. That could be a good thing.
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Its not homosexuality that bugs me...its the level of promiscuity that you hear about among them that is sickening. Many have had hundreds and even thousands of partners, most of it unprotected. Some of them are also bisexual and spreading the diseases to the hetero population. People that do this dont give a damn about themselves or anyone else..that is extremely dangerous(and immoral)...not something I like to think about. Maybe not being allowed to marry is part of the cause of this..?? anyhow if gay marraige was allowed I could see how some of this behavior might stop...if they were able to commit to each other in that way. That could be a good thing.
bbbbbbooooooorrrrrrrrrriiiiiinnnnnngggggggggggggg. "commitment" is a fallacy.
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You dont have to increase taxes to pay for universal healthcare. This is a red-herring argument designed to scare an already overtaxed middle class into doing nothing. All you have to do is redistribute the already collected tax money.
Right now our military budget exceeds the next 15 countries COMBINED. Out of every 1 dollar of tax money collected, approximately 51 cents goes to miltary or miltary related use.
Companies like the CIA, FBI, NSA and now homeland security have almost unlimited budgets (and thats just what they are legally forced to disclose). Right now you could pay for full college tuition for every American high school student with the amount of money it takes to keep our armed forces in Iraq for 2 weeks! Two weeks folks. Full four years of the best education system in America, for free. Would that help to make us more competitive in the global market?
The really sad part of our military spending is that it tends to go to the already rich and connected corporations for "special" projects like new bombers, laser equipment and other high-technology. Very little of it makes it to the families of the men and women doing the dying...their benefits are cut and curtailed as even now they are asked to do longer and longer tours.
Companies like Halliburton take billions of tax dollars providing a service that could be done cheaper (if there were open bid contracts) or even if they were handled by a specific government agency that had oversight and was responsible to the people.
It all depends on what the American people decide is more important. Space lasers, small tactical nukes, MOAB's, another carrier, more private outsourcing at inflated rates, or covering everyone medically on the current or even reduced tax setup.
Dont be fooled by the "news" corps who have a vested interest in promoting corporate policy on the national level and get "paid" by endless commericals selling Viagra. And don't be fooled by the rich politicians who can afford their own policy but usually take their "free" government paid healthcare.
Poll after poll for the last 25 years indicates an OVERWHELMING majority of voters, regardless of political strip, would like to see universal heathcare in this country. 70 to 75% is typically the response. This is of course why it doesn't make it to the political arena...ever! To qoute the New York Times, "It has no political support" (!) By political support, of course, they mean the corporations that stand to lose billions of subsidized tax payer money!
As an example, in the 2004 televies debates, John Kerry (the democrat???) never once brought up or remarked to a question about universal or any government sponsored health program. Not once...not in any of the three debates...not even in the "domestic policy" debate! These are the debates where we (the public) get to decide which multi-millionaire, backed by billionaire corps, will do the best job for us "little" people.
Why would that be?
There is no friend anywhere - Lao Tse
Do you think the people in control will actually let the common people have a say?
The governments really don't give a shit about you or me. If they actually did care about the general health of the public, smoking and alcohol would have been illegal a long time ago. The evidence for steroids being harmful or causeing one to go insane is very weak compared to the evidence of cigarettes and alcohol showing these claims. It is all about control with these people.
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Its not homosexuality that bugs me...its the level of promiscuity that you hear about among them that is sickening. Many have had hundreds and even thousands of partners, most of it unprotected. Some of them are also bisexual and spreading the diseases to the hetero population. People that do this dont give a damn about themselves or anyone else..that is extremely dangerous(and immoral)...not something I like to think about. Maybe not being allowed to marry is part of the cause of this..?? anyhow if gay marraige was allowed I could see how some of this behavior might stop...if they were able to commit to each other in that way. That could be a good thing.
Do you have a problem with the level of promiscuity among purely heterosexual people? The characteristics you describe perfectly match many heteros that I know!
Those are old facts, by the way. It was true at one time that promiscuity was rampant in the gay community (among the men, mostly) but I would bet that since the era of AIDS, homosexuals are statistically more careful and less promiscuous than heteros.
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bullshit, smoking doesn't hurt anyone but the smoker, if you don't like it go away from it, alcohol only hurts the person drinking it and don't give me this DWI bullshit either, plenty of sober people die in car accidents all the time, trying to legislate what people put into their own bodies is stupid.
Agreed. 2nd hand smoke is a political stand, nothing more. They should legalize it all, coke, heroin, gear, then see where the chips fall.
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Do you have a problem with the level of promiscuity among purely heterosexual people? The characteristics you describe perfectly match many heteros that I know!
Those are old facts, by the way. It was true at one time that promiscuity was rampant in the gay community (among the men, mostly) but I would bet that since the era of AIDS, homosexuals are statistically more careful and less promiscuous than heteros.
Yes absolutely I do. Statistics (and also seeing it firsthand by working in a largely gay community) that Ive seen over the years say that extreme promiscuity is by FAR more often the case among gay men. If I'm wrong about that please show me. Either way I find it a disturbing trend.
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bullshit, smoking doesn't hurt anyone but the smoker, if you don't like it go away from it, alcohol only hurts the person drinking it and don't give me this DWI bullshit either, plenty of sober people die in car accidents all the time, trying to legislate what people put into their own bodies is stupid.
Youre kidding right? If I even smell smoke I have an asthma attack. >:( Kids growing up in a household full of smokers have no choice but to breathe it and dont know better to get away from it.
I have seen many families destroyed by alchoholism/drugs, including my own. Dont get me started.
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Youre kidding right? If I even smell smoke I have an asthma attack. Kids growing up in a household full of smokers have no choice but to breathe it and dont know better to get away from it.
I have seen many families destroyed by alchoholism/drugs, including my own. Dont get me started.
hahahah, oh brother, another hypochondriac, i'll bet you sanitize your hands 59 times a day don't you? ::)
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Yes absolutely I do. Statistics (and also seeing it firsthand by working in a largely gay community) that Ive seen over the years say that extreme promiscuity is by FAR more often the case among gay men. If I'm wrong about that please show me. Either way I find it a disturbing trend.
A few tidbits...
b) In a study of sexual behavior in homosexuals and heterosexuals, the researchers found that of gay and bisexual men, 24% had one male partner in their lifetime, 45% had 2-4 male partners, 13% had 5-9 male partners, and 18% had 10 or more sexual partners, which produces a mean of less than 6 partners.
In a parallel study, a random sample of primarily straight men (n=3111 males who had had vaginal intercourse; of the total sample of n=3224 males, only 2.3% had indicated having had sex with both men and women), the mean number of sexual partners was 7.3, with 28.2% having 1-3 partners, and 23.3% having greater than 19 partners (Billy). This data indicates that gay men may have fewer number of sexual partners than heterosexuals.
J Billy-1993: Family Planning Perspectives 25:52-60
R Fay-1989, Science 243:338-348
In another set of studies, the first (n=2664) showed that gay men had an average of 6.5 sexual partners in the past 5 years. In fact, the authors of this paper report that "homosexual and bisexual men are much more likely than heterosexual men to be celibate" given the data in the table below, which compares their data to a second, parallel study of only heterosexual men (n=1235, age=18-49 yrs). The table indicates the percentage of men having the given number of sexual partners in the previous year [top row: Binson; bottom row: Dolcini]:
orientation no partners 1 partner 2+ partners
gay 24 % 41 % 35 %
straight 8 % 80 % 12 %
D Binson-1995: Journal of Sex Research 32: 245-54.
M Dolcini-1993: Family Planning Perspectives 25: 208-14.
c) Homosexuals are NOT more likely to be child molesters. In a random sample of 175 child sex offenders 76% report having exclusive adult heterosexual behavior, and 24% report having adult bisexual behavior. The sexual attraction towards children is a pathology unrelated to sexual orientation.
A Groth-1978, Archives of Sexual Behavior 7(3): 175-181
I'm sure you can find statistics that show the opposite, but I have a question for you. Let's assume for the sake of argument that gays show about the same level of fidelity to one partner that straights do. Let's say they're pretty much the same as we are except for the gender they have sex with. Is there something about homosexuality that still bugs you?
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I'm sure you can find statistics that show the opposite, but I have a question for you. Let's assume for the sake of argument that gays show about the same level of fidelity to one partner that straights do. Let's say they're pretty much the same as we are except for the gender they have sex with. Is there something about homosexuality that still bugs you?
Honestly, no..I judge people by how they treat me. Several of them are good friends of mine. My whole point was that allowiing gay marriage might curtail some of that if it is indeed the case.
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Honestly, no..I judge people by how they treat me. Several of them are good friends of mine. My whole point was that allowiing gay marriage might curtail some of that if it is indeed the case.
I definitely agree with you on that! If some low-life, drug-taking, child-beating but HETERO loser can get married why can't two professional educated friends of mine, who both happen to be women, commit their lives to each other?
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hahahah, oh brother, another hypochondriac, i'll bet you sanitize your hands 59 times a day don't you? ::)
Im sorry for addressing one of your posts, I promise it wont happen again. You clearly dont have the capacity for intelligent conversation and/or are just an internet troll.
Have a nice day :)
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Im sorry for addressing one of your posts, I promise it wont happen again. You clearly dont have the capacity for intelligent conversation and/or are just an internet troll.
Have a nice day :)
You're on Getbig, posting on a Squadfather thread! What did you expect?
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Im sorry for addressing one of your posts, I promise it wont happen again. You clearly dont have the capacity for intelligent conversation and/or are just an internet troll.
Have a nice day :)
camn down dude it ain't that serious, why do some of these guys take this stuff so seriously, hahahahaham these "female bodybuilders" get on the drugs and lose their minds with their tempers, hahahaha, they don't realize they're still 5'5" 130 pounds with 11 inch arms.
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camn down dude it ain't that serious, why do some of these guys take this stuff so seriously, hahahahaham these "female bodybuilders" get on the drugs and lose their minds with their tempers, hahahaha, they don't realize they're still 5'5" 130 pounds with 11 inch arms.
I think because it's really hard to communicate a tongue-in-cheek tone through the internet. Something said in a funny way, when seen in print, often comes off too harsh.
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hahahah, oh brother, another hypochondriac, i'll bet you sanitize your hands 59 times a day don't you? Roll Eyes
Yes, the same person who is allergic to rice, milk, and wheat...hahah These guys always make me laugh.
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hahahah, these "women" who get on the juice are the worst, at least guys can take a joke to a certain extent, these "women" get on these drugs and all of a sudden they're 7'6" and 688 pounds at 3 percent bodyfat and brutal killers and not afraid of anyone, hahahaha, they're still skinny, short, weak midgets. ;D
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Ok, lets get back to the point of this tread:
Steroids can definitely hasten violent behaviour. Couple steroids with someone who has a weak mind and it's a recipe for disaster. But, IMO not worse than alcohol, get that same person drunk and the same thing will happen.
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Yes, the same person who is allergic to rice, milk, and wheat...hahah These guys always make me laugh.
haha OWNED!!!! ;D
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Squadfather is madder than a queer with lock jaw on Valentine's Day.
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Squadfather is madder than a queer with lock jaw on Valentine's Day.
I haven't heard that one. I owe so much to getbig.com for really rounding me as an individual. Thanks everyone.
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Youre kidding right? If I even smell smoke I have an asthma attack. >:( Kids growing up in a household full of smokers have no choice but to breathe it and dont know better to get away from it.
I have seen many families destroyed by alchoholism/drugs, including my own. Dont get me started.
second hand smoke article pulled off yahoo 5 minutes ago....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070628/hl_nm/cancer_smoke_dc
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this is an argument I have used on occasion. If the bible says that marriage is the only place where sex should take place and that sex is exclusively for procreations than naturally it can be assumed that childless couples are being immoral. It does say be fruitful and multiple. It does not state anywhere that sex is for or can be for personal enjoyment. My wife and I do not have nor do we want to have kids so I guess that makes us immoral. Also, there are a ton of documented cases of homosexuality in nature so to assume its unnatural is to have a limited understanding of nature.
That's funny. I don't recall any Bible verse that states that sex is exclusively for procreation. In fact, the New Testament encourages married couples to render "due benevolence" unto one another on a regular basis. In other words, the passage about sex being for personal enjoyment appears to be 1 Cor. 7:3-6.
Can I get an "AMEN!!!!" ? ;D
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You have invalidated your previous remark, "It's moraly wrong. There is a reason there is man and woman were created. Procreation." By your reasoning every time YOU have sex without procreating you are immoral. Have you ever used birth control of any kind? I assume you have.
So now tell me why it's wrong for two PEOPLE who feel affection for each other to express that affection and have a life together.
P.S. I am not gay, if that's what you are thinking. But I have good friends and family who are.
How has he invalidated himself? Jeriko stated that there is a reason man and woman were created: Procreation. That's a reason, not the sole reason.
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How has he invalidated himself? Jeriko stated that there is a reason man and woman were created: Procreation. That's a reason, not the sole reason.
First Jeriko said that gays were immoral because they don't procreate. Then I asked him if a man and woman decide to have sex but not procreate are they immoral too? He answered, "No". That is hypocritical and contradictory. He gave no other reason that gays are immoral other than the procreation thing, but he does not hold heteros up to the same standards.