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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The Squadfather on July 03, 2007, 04:34:20 PM
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how many of you people believe the doses that GH says that most pros take? i'll say that the doses he claims are close, i'd believe that most pros probably take 75-80 percent of what he says but i'm not sure about the insulin amounts.
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He claimed the pros were shooting up GH 6 times PER DAY, thats epic bullshit.
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Ive heard that the guys taking the most stuff might use up to 28 iu's a day.
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He claimed the pros were shooting up GH 6 times PER DAY, thats epic bullshit.
yeah like i said the Insulin and GH amounts and frequency is what i have a hard time believing, if these guys are using Serostim or Humatrope i can't even imagine how much money that would be.
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I believe what he saying is true for the most part.
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I believe him. Markus Ruhl is a monster.
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Take this for how you want it, but i know ALOT of peeps inside the industry and peeps close to the top pro's.
Its BS. No pro that i know of takes that much GH, most iv heard is 24iu per day. Most near the top take between 12-18 per day. Slin iv heard very high amounts of various kinds. AAS... well i would estimate the RANGE at 750mg-1.5g test and another 1g of other shit. Thats it.
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Take this for how you want it, but i know ALOT of peeps inside the industry and peeps close to the top pro's.
Its BS. No pro that i know of takes that much GH, most iv heard is 24iu per day. Most near the top take between 12-18 per day. Slin iv heard very high amounts of various kinds. AAS... well i would estimate the RANGE at 750mg-1.5g test and another 1g of other shit. Thats it.
it's hard to imagine Cutler or Coleman on 750-1000mg. of test/week but hey anything is possible i guess.
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There is no way in hell Ronnie is maintaining 260lbs of muscle with only 750mg of test/week.
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very close to the truth - high doses AAS, slin, GH,T#,clen, ECA, pain killers, antidepressants, blood pressure meds, cholesterol meds, diuretics etc.....
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it's hard to imagine Cutler or Coleman on 750-1000mg. of test/week but hey anything is possible i guess.
Hard to imagine even with 15+ius of growth, and tons of slin?
I know a few pros, national guys, and plenty of local guys.
There is no correlation between what guys use, and what level they are. Some of the biggest juicers are the local guys, and some of the lightest users are the pros....of course, some of the pros use a ton as well, but the amounts are all over the board.
It becomes a point of where in the hell do you put all that gear?
How sore are your ass cheecks going to be on 5g of test a week? Even using delts, quads, bis, even lats, you're going to run out of spots to put all that gear pretty quickly.
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very close to the truth - high doses AAS, slin, GH,T#,clen, ECA, pain killers, antidepressants, blood pressure meds, cholesterol meds, diuretics etc.....
what a fuccked up lifestyle.
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Gh15 has thousands of posts. All of them i found intresting/usefull. One controversial post and he looses all crediblty? WTF is that?
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Gh15 has thousands of posts. All of them i found intresting/usefull. One controversial post and he looses all crediblty? WTF is that?
He's a top tier Mr Olympia contender... what he says is definitely right. He wouldn't bullshit us. The only reason I can think where he may be posting bullshit would be to lead other pros astray.
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He's a top tier Mr Olympia contender... what he says is definitely right. He wouldn't bullshit us. The only reason I can think where he may be posting bullshit would be to lead other pros astray.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!! 'cause they all get their info from getbig.com ;D ?
"GH15" started posting right after the titus BS. A year and a half ago.
Just think guys, a total of 225IU of slow/fast insulin in one day combined with 4000mg of glucophage would simply put you in shock, diabetic or not. I've got 2 females Endocrinologist in my familiy...been hearing about that shit for the last 5 yrs... should know..
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!! 'cause they all get their info from getbig.com ;D ?
most of them are just meatheads with secondhand information so I wouldn't be surprised...
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it's hard to imagine Cutler or Coleman on 750-1000mg. of test/week but hey anything is possible i guess.
Well those two use a tad bit more haha. Cutler uses less than Coleman tho. I have gotten numerous answers on what these two use, no definites tho so i cant say for sure
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Gh15 has thousands of posts. All of them i found intresting/usefull. One controversial post and he looses all crediblty? WTF is that?
While I do find gh15s posts very entertaining and at sometimes educational
EVERYTHING he's posted could be found through google with a an hour or two of spare time.
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It's all about stacking and periodizing.
Nobody wakes up one morning and starts shooting 4g of test out of the blue.
Check Chemical enhancement I & II, out of curiosity, that's as close as you can get from the Truth IMO.
Say what you want about ALR, he made a LOT of clients happy, most of them stuck in a downspiral/plateau, including Toney Freeman (he literally rebuilt him)
None of his "protocols" go over 1500mg.
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It's all about stacking and periodizing.
Nobody wakes up one morning and starts shooting 4g of test out of the blue.
Check Chemical enhancement I & II, out of curiosity, that's as close as you can get from the thruth IMO.
Say what you want about ALR, he made a LOT of clients happy, most of them stuck in a ruth, including Toney Freeman (he literally rebuilt him)
None of his "protocols" go over 1500mg.
who's "ALR", Arthur L. Rea?
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who's "ALR", Arthur L. Rea?
hahaha "arthur"
Scott Jensen aka Author L Rea.
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While I do find gh15s posts very entertaining and at sometimes educational
EVERYTHING he's posted could be found through google with a an hour or two of spare time.
No it cant, not that kind of information. Gh has opinions, and they come from experience.
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hahaha "arthur"
Scott Jensen aka Author L Rea.
hahahahaha, i just remember him from reading his shit in MD a few years back.
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how many of you people believe the doses that GH says that most pros take? i'll say that the doses he claims are close, i'd believe that most pros probably take 75-80 percent of what he says but i'm not sure about the insulin amounts.
he's probably a non lifter like you chubby fat ass either really skinny or really fat like you that reads the boards and writes fables like you you fat parrot...
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!! 'cause they all get their info from getbig.com ;D ?
"GH15" started posting right after the titus BS. A year and a half ago.
Just think guys, a total of 225IU of slow/fat insulin in one day combined with 4000mg of glucophage would simply put you in shock, diabetic or not. I've got 2 females Endocrinologist in my familiy...been hearing about that shit for the last 5 yrs... should know..
Exactly. I know that from my experiences with around 10iu ED. TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!! Milos s closer to the center on the dart board with the "700mg a week" comment. I've personally never gone above 1000mg a week and I grow like a weed.
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Gh15 has thousands of posts. All of them i found intresting/usefull. One controversial post and he looses all crediblty? WTF is that?
i wish i lost it to be honest with you they start emailing diff sites now with questions about gh15 what he said when he said why he said,,i told you to keep it on getbig fellas,,gh15 is only for getbig and thatisit i have no need or will to post under this identity on other boards
also let me add one more thing,,to all the doubters,,those are not only pro cycles that i ron jason gustav dex are following,,many of those cycles are followed by AMATUER BODYBUILDERS ON THE WAY TO BECOME PROS,,it not that you wake up a pro and start those protocols,,,those are years of trial and error that result of you finally getting your pro card,,and if you got the genetic repond and knowledge you may shorten it quite a bit
plenty of top amatuer use 1 amp omnadren every single day and 20-30units growth + 50 units slin a day,,,im talking about both international and national athletes,,they do it in the 1000s they spend all the income on it,,they get it free if they in the game,,,they pay for it if not,,and the real rich one get it from the doc prescribed,,
the new fasion now days is to use slin and claim for natural status,,actually its quite old this idea but it gets back in big time,,the gh added and t3 makes you a "complete natural" undetected happy fella
get real my friends
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how many of you people believe the doses that GH says that most pros take? i'll say that the doses he claims are close, i'd believe that most pros probably take 75-80 percent of what he says but i'm not sure about the insulin amounts.
GH15 is full of crap, that being said (and I've said this before) he's the most dangeous poster on here!
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GH15 is full of crap, that being said (and I've said this before) he's the most dangeous poster on here!
i don't think so, i think the guy talks a lot of truth, you may not like what he has to say but the man tells it like it is, the only thing i doubt him on is the freakish amounts of insulin and Glucophage.
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you really are shit for brains ass casm aren't you you fat pig.
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you really are shit for brains ass casm aren't you you fat pig.
you probably think you can be 300 pounds at 3% BF while on 2grams of test just like sevastase
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i don't think so, i think the guy talks a lot of truth, you may not like what he has to say but the man tells it like it is, the only thing i doubt him on is the freakish amounts of insulin and Glucophage.
So why all the fuss about genetics? Anybody taking that amount of gear would have to grow. If these Pro's are the genetic gods they are made out to be wouldn't Milos's assement be more correct?
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GH15 is full of crap, that being said (and I've said this before) he's the most dangeous poster on here!
and when did you get your pro card? when did you place top 10 in any amatuer bodybuilding copetition international or national usa?
just what i thought
what i write here is not for everyday joe i always mention it and repeat it,,it is for experience bodybuilders with years under their belt that have the genetic repond to hormones and wanna make a living off it
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So why all the fuss about genetics? Anybody taking that amount of gear would have to grow. If these Pro's are the genetic gods they are made out to be wouldn't Milos's assement be more correct?
Not necessarily bro, I know of a guy who sticks himslef with ungodly amounts per day (over 1000mgs) and isn't even that big. Genetics as far as muscle belly length, fiber thickness ect. has a lot to do with it. What if all of Ronnie's bodyparts where genetically the same as his calves?
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Not necessarily bro, I know of a guy who sticks himslef with ungodly amounts per day (over 1000mgs) and isn't even that big. Genetics as far as muscle belly length, fiber thickness ect. What if all of Ronnie's bodyparts where genetically the same as his calves?
1000mg's ED is retarded. He should take up bird watching or something. Muscle shape is one thing. Genetic response to drugs is another and thats what I was speaking to. I grow on what I see as a small amount of AAS, and prefer it that. I think the whole think is bullshit with a capitol B. I saw a similar post over on getdrunk.com the other day. This guy was a pro alcoholic. It looked something like this:
12 pack Miller Light for Breakfast
1 pint Jim Beam after cardio
1 box of red wine (improves vascularity)
1 case of Corona Pre-WO
5th Hennesy Post-WO
Bottle of Moet
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Hes 100% legit in my eyes
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He claimed the pros were shooting up GH 6 times PER DAY, thats epic bullshit.
Shooting up six times a day is possible, but I would think only half the quantity he listed.
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Legit. And he aint tellin the 1/2 of it. Way uglier.
All these dorks that never used steroids saying 10cc a week will kill and such have their heads so far up their ass its a comedy.
YOu could take any of these skinny/bony NON-GAINER Naturals here posting Pics and put 20-30 Good looking pounds of BW on them in 10-14 days w/ a couple thousand mgs.
No, it wont be pure muscle, but it will look good. High risk of bad sides? Yes. Smarter ways to do it? Yes.
But quit making excuses and denying what is right in front of your eyes.
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Ultimately it is possible guys are huge on low doses and vice versa. I for example am a mega responder, when I was 22 I went from 225 to 253 in about 8 weeks on 500mgs enanthate and 500mgs deca and 20 mgs daily of dball. I tried to go over that next cycle and got literally sick, my body basically attacked the gear like a virus I ran a fever of 104.8 for over a week it was very serious. I just cannot handle high doses my body doesnt need nor will it allow. I can imagine on 1g of test and some anabolics coupled with high GH and slin doses mega responders with proper diet and training can be insanely massive, add in the fact that every so often a genetic freak like ronnie comes along and you get 280 ripped on teh same dosage, meanwhile guys with shit genetics are on huge cycles and geting no where they just don't respond.
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Ultimately it is possible guys are huge on low doses and vice versa. I for example am a mega responder, when I was 22 I went from 225 to 253 in about 8 weeks on 500mgs enanthate and 500mgs deca and 20 mgs daily of dball. I tried to go over that next cycle and got literally sick, my body basically attacked the gear like a virus I ran a fever of 104.8 for over a week it was very serious. I just cannot handle high doses my body doesnt need nor will it allow. I can imagine on 1g of test and some anabolics coupled with high GH and slin doses mega responders with proper diet and training can be insanely massive, add in the fact that every so often a genetic freak like ronnie comes along and you get 280 ripped on teh same dosage, meanwhile guys with shit genetics are on huge cycles and geting no where they just don't respond.
So you've tried 2 cycles and yur a expert. You got a reaction to the shots is all. Go again.
Here'z the cure Tylenol and ibuprofin. Your body did not "attack" the gear.
Damn I wish I had yur Genetics. YOU dont need slin.
1gr of TE in a guy yur size is childs play. YOu just need to understand how it works, and you clearly Dont.
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Legit. And he aint tellin the 1/2 of it. Way uglier.
All these dorks that never used steroids saying 10cc a week will kill and such have their heads so far up their ass its a comedy.
YOu could take any of these skinny/bony NON-GAINER Naturals here posting Pics and put 20-30 Good looking pounds of BW on them in 10-14 days w/ a couple thousand mgs.
No, it wont be pure muscle, but it will look good. High risk of bad sides? Yes. Smarter ways to do it? Yes.
But quit making excuses and denying what is right in front of your eyes.
Question for ya:
Are gains in strength as drug based as gains in muscle? Say a natural can achieve 75% of their maximum muscle size as a natural, do you think the percentage is the same for strength, or maybe a little higher?
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Shit for someone yall cant stand, hes sure one popular mf-er!!!! IMO its kinda like religion, if you choose not to beleive what he has to say, f-uck it, turn a cheek. Gear is the biggest mystety in bodybuilding. It is kept hush hush. Not too often you find somebody who is willing to speak openly about gear, sources, protocols, and sides. Not to mention somebody who favors exposing the secrets. I admit, i take notes here and there... But i still dont see the controversey, and the need for whoever he is to have his name in 15 threads on the main board. Who cares? ( especially naturals)Its just a disgusting side effect of bodybuilding everybody knows is there but nobody wants to belive.
GH15 is a fictional character for roleplaying and entertainment purposes only. Right?
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GH15 is a fictional character for roleplaying and entertainment purposes only. Right?
yes.
trutha dn fact that can't be debated or proven until he would post a pic but he can't because it would reveal his lies.
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how many of you people believe the doses that GH says that most pros take? i'll say that the doses he claims are close, i'd believe that most pros probably take 75-80 percent of what he says but i'm not sure about the insulin amounts.
i beleive gh 15 i no of one low level competitor who told me about the same amounts all i remember is 4000mgs or 4 grams
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Andreas Munzer's Last Cycle
Week 1-10: Ephedrine
Asprin
Clenbuterol
Valium
Captagon
Cytomel
Weeks 1-5: 500mg/daily Testosterone Enanthate
152mg/daily Parabolan
150mg/daily Dianabol
150mg/daily Halotestin
20IU/daily GH
20IU/daily Insulin
Weeks 6-8: 300mg/daily Masteron
152mg/daily Parabolan
250mg/daily Winstrol Tab
150mg/daily Halotestin
50mg/daily Winstrol Inj.
24IU/daily GH
Weeks 9-10: 200mg/daily Masteron
100mg/daily Winstrol Inj.
200mg/daily Halotestin
400mg/daily Winstrol Tab
24IU/daily GH
Insulin Daily
IGF-1 Daily
Days 1-3 leading up to show: Aldactone, Lasix to cut water
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The Beef would like to know if Ron can verify that Gh is what he claims to be. No names, just yes or no to the top 6 Olympia competator.
On another board, it was claimed that his last post ( the cycle ) was in a Mag a few years back written by an " UnderCover Pro."
The Beef
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So you've tried 2 cycles and yur a expert. You got a reaction to the shots is all. Go again.
Here'z the cure Tylenol and ibuprofin. Your body did not "attack" the gear.
Damn I wish I had yur Genetics. YOU dont need slin.
1gr of TE in a guy yur size is childs play. YOu just need to understand how it works, and you clearly Dont.
I have only done a few cycles because I have moved on in my life, I no longer really feel an urge to get huge. That said I maintain around 225 with 10% year round totally natural, may not impress you but at 5ft9 I carry it well and am strong as shit. When I got sick I was told by some guy online to run 2grams a week of enanthate, around week 2 I got sick as fuck was hallucinating etc etc I did not just "have a bad reaction". The test was ICN Gelinka which if you ever had it was strong as shit. I MIGHT run some gear again just to see how big I get but not till winter. Btw when I went to the hospital for my fever I got tylenol to bring it down a bit, but come on I am not going to stay on that shit for a whole cycle.
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how many of you people believe the doses that GH says that most pros take? i'll say that the doses he claims are close, i'd believe that most pros probably take 75-80 percent of what he says but i'm not sure about the insulin amounts.
it think most of the shit he puts on here is pulled out of his ass ;)
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I'll sum it up in 2 words...BULL SHIT!!!
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He may as well be Adonis until he gets his blue stars.
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and when did you get your pro card? when did you place top 10 in any amatuer bodybuilding copetition international or national usa?
just what i thought
what i write here is not for everyday joe i always mention it and repeat it,,it is for experience bodybuilders with years under their belt that have the genetic repond to hormones and wanna make a living off it
Don't even think about giving me that bullshit, since when dies having a pro card make that person an expert? I guaranfreakingty I can bring someone in the the top 5 or 10 in a National or pro show on a almost a 1/4 of the shit you post as a cycle? And by the way.....1990!
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how many of you people believe the doses that GH says that most pros take? i'll say that the doses he claims are close, i'd believe that most pros probably take 75-80 percent of what he says but i'm not sure about the insulin amounts.
bro i knew of a power lifter in the 1980s that took well over 3 grams of test alone and 10 syntex anadrol a day...
So a pro bodybuilder of today for sure would be putting more hormones in their body then a powerlifter of yesterday...
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bro i knew of a power lifter in the 1980s that took well over 3 grams of test alone and 10 syntex anadrol a day...
So a pro bodybuilder of today for sure would be putting more hormones in their body then a powerlifter of yesterday...
Gear for powerlifting is pretty much a mainstay, the list that clown GH15 listed is pretty much a fulltime job just taking the crap.......GH15 is full of crap!
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I personally have been around ;D bb since I was a little kid, and for 15 years bb myself, competed etc. I can only be grateful thaT someone like gh15 has the balls to lay it out there for everyone to see what has been known in bb since the 40's...So for all the young " naturals" : welcome to bb . ps : beware what u wish for ;D).....more props to u gh15.
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I can't speak on the drug/gear posts as I'm clueless there, but a couple of things he has posted about the female side of competing have been completely off base, as in 100% inaccurate.
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I can't speak on the drug/gear posts as I'm clueless there, but a couple of things he has posted about the female side of competing have been completely off base, as in 100% inaccurate.
do i need say more?
thought so
i start thinking i deal here with bunch of liars and idiots but its fun after all this is all a game nothing is real here right? we all pretend... :D role play :D
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to be honest with you i wouldnt wish this jaw line on a man!,,thats how bad it is and that how much abuse she been through when it comes to her once feminine body,,
this is why i support complete elimination of female bodybuilding
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this is a 'better' picture of that trans
now to tell me this thing is on 1 tablet of 25 mg winstrol per day with some flax seed oil is an insult to my pro card,,
its like that wrestler girl jody china that got fucked up so bad on the combo of hormones painkiller and narcs that she cant distinguish between good and bad,,wrong and right,,ill be damn if i didnt get an email showing a quote from that wrestler girl claiming to never touch aas,,i mean this is beyond crazy it borders insanity,,she was one of the big female abusers of aas painkillers and cocaine,,and to this day fucked her look so bad that she will be die ugly no matter what she does
unbelivable
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Question for ya:
Are gains in strength as drug based as gains in muscle? Say a natural can achieve 75% of their maximum muscle size as a natural, do you think the percentage is the same for strength, or maybe a little higher?
HIGHER
That's probably the main reason you see so many strong naturals that are not big
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I tend to believe gh15 more than Milos, I mean come on, 500-1000mg test ew and 500-1000mg of other stuff, hahaha give me a break. ::)
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it's hard to imagine Cutler or Coleman on 750-1000mg. of test/week but hey anything is possible i guess.
I AGREE...They are both obviously natural.
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The Beef would like to know if Ron can verify that Gh is what he claims to be. No names, just yes or no to the top 6 Olympia competator.
On another board, it was claimed that his last post ( the cycle ) was in a Mag a few years back written by an " UnderCover Pro."
The Beef
even ron called bullshat on his drug post average cycle of pros and top amatuers contenders...
ha ha what a little fool he is he will be ousted just like anus has and fat ass casm was.
no respect at all for these FOOLS
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I did respect 'gh15', but he's made a few silly errors that now make me think he's a gimmic. I don't doubt he's a dealer - probably has a flat in Pattaya and mails out danabols to people.
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Like I said in the other thread about GH15, I believe him about this cycle he laid out for pro use. I know alot of people that compete and they are on some shit close to that right now. Look in the Anablolics 2007 book. William lays out a plan that is pretty similar to that of a pro, he is dead now but the fact still remains that he did it. Matarrazo even has talked about how shit he took and how he would change it all now if he could just to be healthy and fit. While I don't believe everything I read and see, not even from my own momma, I believe this. It is not that far fetched if you have been around this shit long enough and know.
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I believe GH15
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Not true for most of them, they would be dead in a few years.
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1000mgs TE a wk is a HRT type base. Its basicly "drug Free" for plenty of meat monsters ;) ;D
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Don't even think about giving me that bullshit, since when dies having a pro card make that person an expert? I guaranfreakingty I can bring someone in the the top 5 or 10 in a National or pro show on a almost a 1/4 of the shit you post as a cycle? And by the way.....1990!
GH 15 month old baby owned again...
good stuff...
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I did respect 'gh15', but he's made a few silly errors that now make me think he's a gimmic. I don't doubt he's a dealer - probably has a flat in Pattaya and mails out danabols to people.
yes another sees the light!
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yes another sees the light!
Jason How old are you?
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any more info you need scab?
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I believe GH15.
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any more info you need scab?
I meant trab.
been training 24 years, seen just about everything there is to see and can smell shit when I see it.
I'll post some pics if some one tells me how to upload images here....
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any more info you need scab?
Have you EVER USED STEROIDS BOY?
Obviously not. And please dont, there's allready too many immature children on them making problems
for those who use them responsibly.
You are another frustrated Natural, sad and making excuses for your shortcomings.
Talk about somthing you know about, AAS aint it. Maybe fat girls ;D
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Trab, i've been around 'the game' [ ::)] for about ten years, and the kind of cycle gh15 detailed was absolutely ludicrous. Maybe he did it on purpose for shock value, but there is no fucking way anyone is using that amount of slin.
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he did say that it was the confirmed cycle of one person and later said you couldnt take it without serious side effects... maybe thats a thomas prince cycle ;)
i believe part of what he says and part of what milos says... i think both change things around somewhat. btw, milos should do that pbw show about gear, but it wont happen. i guarantee that.
could someone tell me what glucophage is? or post a link. thanks.
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Trab, i've been around 'the game' [ ::)] for about ten years, and the kind of cycle gh15 detailed was absolutely ludicrous. Maybe he did it on purpose for shock value, but there is no fucking way anyone is using that amount of slin.
Bud, I could use 45oo w/ out bad sides. Ive run close to 3000.
There is simply NO Return for me. So its Pointless.
You guys ever even eat w/ a big strong Dude whos 320lbs? Its at another level.
The ONLY limiting factor is injection sites, and he uses creames ALSO w/ inj and orals.
6cc in each hip is very common w/ your Euro monster bretheren. Look at the delts these boys have.
Quads... Shit, Rhule could put 15-20cc in one leg.
Just because you or me cant dont mean them Beef Cows dont.
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I have only done a few cycles because I have moved on in my life, I no longer really feel an urge to get huge. That said I maintain around 225 with 10% year round totally natural, may not impress you but at 5ft9 I carry it well and am strong as shit. When I got sick I was told by some guy online to run 2grams a week of enanthate, around week 2 I got sick as fuck was hallucinating etc etc I did not just "have a bad reaction". The test was ICN Gelinka which if you ever had it was strong as shit. I MIGHT run some gear again just to see how big I get but not till winter. Btw when I went to the hospital for my fever I got tylenol to bring it down a bit, but come on I am not going to stay on that shit for a whole cycle.
::)another internet monster.
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::)another internet monster.
keeping talking mr 50% bodyfat.
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Have you EVER USED STEROIDS BOY?
Obviously not. And please dont, there's allready too many immature children on them making problems
for those who use them responsibly.
You are another frustrated Natural, sad and making excuses for your shortcomings.
Talk about somthing you know about, AAS aint it. Maybe fat girls ;D
i bet your one of the illegimate children i have fathered that i thought misfired obviously not.
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i bet your one of the illegimate children i have fathered that i thought misfired obviously not.
Jason have you EVER Used aas? Just a simple question. You talk like you know So much about them.
I and most people dont respect pps who talk out their ass. ANd it's pretty clear that's you.
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I wonder whats branch uses. he looks to unhealthy to be on 750 - 1000 mg a week.
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I wonder whats branch uses. he looks to unhealthy to be on 750 - 1000 mg a week.
I doubt these guys ever leave wasted space in a 3cc hypo, and often use 6's!
No, the dope anit the only key, their doses would just make most guys sick.
They've built up to it over 10-20yrs also remember.
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I doubt these guys ever leave wasted space in a 3cc hypo, and often use 6's!
No, the dope anit the only key, their doses would just make most guys sick.
They've built up to it over 10-20yrs also remember.
it's the old Joe Meeko theory, "never waste a syringe". :D
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I believe there's a least a few people out there taking something like this. Its more of a personality/addiction issue than anything else. You ever read through some of the threads on BB.com? There's guys there that love nothing more than to post threads like "How many pills do you take a day?!?" or "Post a picture of your supplement stash!" showing pantry fulls of pills, powders, etc. I think the same thing translates over to steroids too, its not unlikely that you have the same type of guy getting his jollies when he can open a door to a cabinent full of syringes, vials, and blister packs....
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I believe there's a least a few people out there taking something like this. Its more of a personality/addiction issue than anything else. You ever read through some of the threads on BB.com? There's guys there that love nothing more than to post threads like "How many pills do you take a day?!?" or "Post a picture of your supplement stash!" showing pantry fulls of pills, powders, etc. I think the same thing translates over to steroids too, its not unlikely that you have the same type of guy getting his jollies when he can open a door to a cabinent full of syringes, vials, and blister packs....
100% spot on. there aint a better pursuit then BBing for a obsessive cumpulsive person. Its tailor made.
Fact is most guys wont get any further Bennies from mega doses. I dont.
But a couple grams a wk do have some serious impact compared to 500.
Drug response if very individual.
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Jason have you EVER Used aas? Just a simple question. You talk like you know So much about them.
I and most people dont respect pps who talk out their ass. ANd it's pretty clear that's you.
Where do I talk out my ass?
I am here to have fun.
Not to learn, not to teach.
As I said in my other post I am 42 years old, been training since 16, born in 1965.
Started juicing at 25 in 1990 the year of the Anti-steroid control act.
Had a good doc prescribing me cycles until 1999, then he retired, besides it was tough to get legitimate stuff after the FDA closed down steris in 1997, a very sad day indeed.
I have been around the explosion of the mexican vet scene seeing it grow from brovel tornel denkall and loeffler to the ttokyo, QV golden days. After the government systematically shut down the mexican roid scene due to ttokyo and ketamine for short. The undeground labs shot up and have taken steam since the early part of the 21 rst century. UG labs are basically shit, I agree with GH15 on that but then again I thought everyone knew that. Chinese powders are shit for purity. The GH market was recently shut down to a huge investigation when an "importing" company got busted named HGH-for-less. Gensci stopped shipping everything here to the states.
This has been a big year for the gov't they have made a huge dent in the market, but really it's not even their doing it's the chinese government.
My juice use, it's boring nothing special, I have done it all pretty much test deca eq var dbol tren GH slin over the last 17 years cycling on and off and know what's possible on the stuff and what's not. I know the stuff he posted is not the norm, the associated test flu from the compounds would put a big man down sick, same with that amount of GH, a mofok couldn't close his hands. I could go on..but do you really need another person telling you how to juice and grow?
I could take a blend of three common tests and deca in a 50 cc bottle and tell someone to ramp up a cc or 2 over 12 weeks and give them a diet and routine and they'd get bigger than the guy overanalyzing and measuring his even blood levels and when they peak and popping winstrol to "free up anabolic receptors" and on turinabol and masteron and primo and other "exotics" these days but you keep on believing GH15 that every top amatuer or and every pro takes 1000's of mgs of AAS a week.
"Gurus" are my pet peeves or guys that pretend to be in the know.
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Where do I talk out my ass?
I am here to have fun.
Not to learn, not to teach.
As I said in my other post I am 42 years old, been training since 16, born in 1965.
Started juicing at 25 in 1990 the year of the Anti-steroid control act.
Had a good doc prescribing me cycles until 1999, then he retired, besides it was tough to get legitimate stuff after the FDA closed down steris in 1997, a very sad day indeed.
I have been around the explosion of the mexican vet scene seeing it grow from brovel tornel denkall and loeffler to the ttokyo, QV golden days. After the government systematically shut down the mexican roid scene due to ttokyo and ketamine for short. The undeground labs shot up and have taken steam since the early part of the 21 rst century. UG labs are basically shit, I agree with GH15 on that but then again I thought everyone knew that. Chinese powders are shit for purity. The GH market was recently shut down to a huge investigation when an "importing" company got busted named HGH-for-less. Gensci stopped shipping everything here to the states.
This has been a big year for the gov't they have made a huge dent in the market, but really it's not even their doing it's the chinese government.
My juice use, it's boring nothing special, I have done it all pretty much test deca eq var dbol tren GH slin over the last 17 years cycling on and off and know what's possible on the stuff and what's not. I know the stuff he posted is not the norm, the associated test flu from the compounds would put a big man down sick, same with that amount of GH, a mofok couldn't close his hands. I could go on..but do you really need another person telling you how to juice and grow?
I could take a blend of three common tests and deca in a 50 cc bottle and tell someone to ramp up a cc or 2 over 12 weeks and give them a diet and routine and they'd get bigger than the guy overanalyzing and measuring his even blood levels and when they peak and popping winstrol to "free up anabolic receptors" and on turinabol and masteron and primo and other "exotics" these days but you keep on believing GH15 that every top amatuer or and every pro takes 1000's of mgs of AAS a week.
"Gurus" are my pet peeves or guys that pretend to be in the know.
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...and your point is? 8)
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I wasn't talking to you. :-X :D ;) ;D
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I wasn't talking to you. :-X :D ;) ;D
I think you're destroying vinee's hero.
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He's a top tier Mr Olympia contender...
Why? Because he says so?
Until Ron gives him blue stars, he could easily be some fat 18-year-old posting from his mom's basement as far as I'm concerned. ::)
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Where do I talk out my ass?
I am here to have fun.
Not to learn, not to teach.
As I said in my other post I am 42 years old, been training since 16, born in 1965.
Started juicing at 25 in 1990 the year of the Anti-steroid control act.
Had a good doc prescribing me cycles until 1999, then he retired, besides it was tough to get legitimate stuff after the FDA closed down steris in 1997, a very sad day indeed.
I have been around the explosion of the mexican vet scene seeing it grow from brovel tornel denkall and loeffler to the ttokyo, QV golden days. After the government systematically shut down the mexican roid scene due to ttokyo and ketamine for short. The undeground labs shot up and have taken steam since the early part of the 21 rst century. UG labs are basically shit, I agree with GH15 on that but then again I thought everyone knew that. Chinese powders are shit for purity. The GH market was recently shut down to a huge investigation when an "importing" company got busted named HGH-for-less. Gensci stopped shipping everything here to the states.
This has been a big year for the gov't they have made a huge dent in the market, but really it's not even their doing it's the chinese government.
My juice use, it's boring nothing special, I have done it all pretty much test deca eq var dbol tren GH slin over the last 17 years cycling on and off and know what's possible on the stuff and what's not. I know the stuff he posted is not the norm, the associated test flu from the compounds would put a big man down sick, same with that amount of GH, a mofok couldn't close his hands. I could go on..but do you really need another person telling you how to juice and grow?
I could take a blend of three common tests and deca in a 50 cc bottle and tell someone to ramp up a cc or 2 over 12 weeks and give them a diet and routine and they'd get bigger than the guy overanalyzing and measuring his even blood levels and when they peak and popping winstrol to "free up anabolic receptors" and on turinabol and masteron and primo and other "exotics" these days but you keep on believing GH15 that every top amatuer or and every pro takes 1000's of mgs of AAS a week.
"Gurus" are my pet peeves or guys that pretend to be in the know.
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Ok, so what makes you dissbelieve 5000cc and Orals by the handfull? That's childs play to lots of these big boy.
No it wont drop them all w/ test flu.
I agree it's excessive and not particularly safe is a understatment, but that dont mean it dont happen.
How many cc you think Greg V pumped into each arm at a sitting?
The practicle limit is only how much beef there is to inject. Whether GH15 is a legit top pro is irrelavant to the fact that
guys do use that much. I do agree w/ plenty of your points, it is WAY overthought. I say all the time, Many guys could pick steroids out of a bucket w/ their eyes closed 1st cycle and make astounding gains, keeping them is the trick.
I just happen to KNOW thet lots of the big Euro boys consider a 10cc vial of Enanthate - 2 SHOTS!
Like it or not it's real. When ya got easy cheap acces- you use more.
Reaction to ALL drugs is very individual. Just cause you get sick dont mean some much smaller guy wont feel great on same stuff.
There's also more to him that rings credible too. Frankly I dont care, but yur 100% wrong if you think that's a undoable
AAS load.
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Not true for most of them, they would be dead in a few years.
really...I know of a guy who use between 75 and 125 percs/vics a day and 4 methadone 40mg waffers for more then 6 years non stop...Still alive and kicking...
The average person would not believe that some people out there use these amounts of drugs...They will say things like no way, they couldn't afford it, It would kill them ect...Well these people are out there and do use massive amounts of drugs..
And the mindset of alot of Bodybuilders are worse then this kid...
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gh15... thanks for keeping it real... i said it before and i'll say it again... your posts are the few worth reading ones on here. keep it up man.
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Why? Because he says so?
Until Ron gives him blue stars, he could easily be some fat 18-year-old posting from his mom's basement as far as I'm concerned. ::)
are blue stars really THAT big of a deal?
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That is a true pro cycle. Unbeliveable but true.
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Lots of them guys is big enough to stick 30-50cc in a Arm at a sit down.
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If gh15 was a real pro, wouldn't Ron have given him blue stars. ???
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If gh15 was a real pro, wouldn't Ron have given him blue stars. ???
Think here. it would narrow it down to a few guys. The dude is clearly Dope central.
ANY of these top dog BBer need be real well conected at best. How you think they support they
lifestyle? It aint prizemoney, that 4 sure.
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Think here. it would narrow it down to a few guys. The dude is clearly Dope central.
ANY of these top dog BBer need be real well conected at best. How you think they support they
lifestyle? It aint prizemoney, that 4 sure.
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THat TOO ;D
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!! 'cause they all get their info from getbig.com ;D ?
"GH15" started posting right after the titus BS. A year and a half ago.
Just think guys, a total of 225IU of slow/fast insulin in one day combined with 4000mg of glucophage would simply put you in shock, diabetic or not. I've got 2 females Endocrinologist in my familiy...been hearing about that shit for the last 5 yrs... should know..
Youd be dead with that much slin..... and if you lived, youd be a diabetic..
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Youd be dead with that much slin..... and if you lived, youd be a diabetic..
most of them are diabetics...Some just don't know it yet
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That's their GOAL! Then they have a reason to have insulin, and pinz and insh will cover it.
You dont understant the level of Duh..
YOu think anyone who use a fatburner classified as POISION that were discoverd in WWII explosives
factories when workers start'd DIE of HYPERTHERMIA care?
Sleep w/ a fan on the head to help stave off brain dammage from overheating insleep.
How about the Cyclists? Them bony farries are even worse.
Blood so thick on EPO it cant pump. Heart moniters to wake them in sleep if HR go too low,
get up and exersize quick so dont die of coranary.