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Title: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 05, 2007, 05:11:26 PM
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth

A light bulb appears over my head. I finally get it.

For the democratic process to run properly it necessitates the voter to have some knowledge of what he is voting on.  For it to work properly it requires voters to cast their votes based on an educated opinion.  If you are going to vote on something like stem cell research you should at least know what it is, correct?

Sadly, that isn’t how many American vote, as is obvious when during an election year people are talking about whether or not someone “looks presidential” and whether the person looks “likeable”. Well the question is, how can Americans vote on such things as global warming, stem cell research, cloning and what have you when basic scientific fundamental concepts fly right over our heads.

"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century." Said Jon D. Miller, a political scientists who directs the Center for Biomedical Communications at the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, he regularly surveys Americans for his clients which include the National Science Foundation on the public’s knowledge and attitudes towards science in general.
I mean, lets be honest, if you don’t know what a fucking cell is how can you understand what stem cell research is enough to vote on it?

And according to this guy most Americans don’t know what a cell is. Then it hit me.  There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative. Like I said, it hit me. And it hit me hard.

Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical “authorities” they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?

What a dangerous misstep.

Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.

Those things go hand in hand. He says that every time he goes on the radio to talk about his findings he gets people from the listening area sending him cards in the mail saying that they will pray for him. So I take it even though they don’t understand what he is talking about when he refers to “DNA” they know that people that use big words like that are most likely going to hell.

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Source: Scientific Savvy? In U.S., Not Much, New York Times, August 30, 2005
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 05, 2007, 05:18:13 PM
A certain portion of the population will always be stupid.

Intelligence has shown to be normally distributed and I think you know that.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: CARTEL on July 05, 2007, 05:22:28 PM
How's this for distribution of stupidity...

TA, Goodbum, Daddywaddy, Shifted Shapes.

All from North Carolina.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 05, 2007, 05:29:01 PM
A certain portion of the population will always be stupid.

Intelligence has shown to be normally distributed and I think you know that.
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: trab on July 05, 2007, 05:30:49 PM
Some of the bigest idiots I ever seen me is been higher eduKation products.
There a big diff  'tween educated and smart.

That Sun revolves around the Earth thing is a little troubling though. I dont doubt the 1:5.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 05, 2007, 05:35:01 PM
Some of the bigest idiots I ever seen me is been higher eduKation products.
There a big diff  'tween educated and smart.

That Sun revolves around the Earth thing is a little troubling though. I dont doubt the 1:5.

Something like 70% of americans CAN'T locate afghanistan on a globe.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Deadpool on July 05, 2007, 05:35:55 PM
and most of those who can locate it are in the military
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: CARTEL on July 05, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
Where do these polls come from?

Nobodys ever asked me shit.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: trab on July 05, 2007, 05:36:53 PM
Something like 70% of americans CAN'T locate afghanistan on a globe.

Shit, I bet close to that cant locate their own city on a map or globe.
ANd theres plenty that cant find their ass w/ both hands.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: leonp1981 on July 05, 2007, 05:37:07 PM
Something like 70% of americans CAN'T locate afghanistan on a globe.

Not surprising when the entire government can't find WMD in Saddam's back yard.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 05, 2007, 05:37:14 PM
and most of those who can locate it are in the military

hahaha The brutal truth.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: tleilaxutank on July 05, 2007, 05:38:44 PM
http://www.flockofdodos.com/

A very good documentary on the idiocy of the religious right and conservative america
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 05, 2007, 05:39:30 PM
Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

Hahahahah. Thank god for communism!
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Deadpool on July 05, 2007, 05:40:00 PM
Not surprising when the entire government can't find WMD in Saddam's back yard.

yup.  they were supposed to be the reason we went in there...  :-\
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: CARTEL on July 05, 2007, 05:43:15 PM
Hahahahah. Thank god for communism!

Yeah, these guys need another Uncle Joe Stalin to thin the herd around here  ;D

They thought Hitler was bad, Joe was far worse.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: SAMSON123 on July 05, 2007, 05:43:44 PM
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth
A light bulb appears over my head.
I finally get it.
For the democratic process to run properly it necessitates the voter to have some knowledge of what he is voting on.
For it to work properly it requires voters to cast their votes based on an educated opinion.
If you are going to vote on something like stem cell research you should at least know what it is, correct?
Sadly, that isn’t how many American vote, as is obvious when during an election year people are talking about whether or not someone “looks presidential” and whether the person looks “likeable”.
Well the question is, how can Americans vote on such things as global warming, stem cell research, cloning and what have you when basic scientific fundamental concepts fly right over our heads.
"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century." Said Jon D. Miller, a political scientists who directs the Center for Biomedical Communications at the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, he regularly surveys Americans for his clients which include the National Science Foundation on the public’s knowledge and attitudes towards science in general.
I mean, lets be honest, if you don’t know what a fucking cell is how can you understand what stem cell research is enough to vote on it?
And according to this guy most Americans don’t know what a cell is.
Then it hit me.
There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative.
Like I said, it hit me. And it hit me hard.
Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical “authorities” they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?
What a dangerous misstep.
Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.
Those things go hand in hand.
He says that every time he goes on the radio to talk about his findings he gets people from the listening area sending him cards in the mail saying that they will pray for him.
So I take it even though they don’t understand what he is talking about when he refers to “DNA” they know that people that use big words like that are most likely going to hell.

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Source: Scientific Savvy? In U.S., Not Much, New York Times, August 30, 2005


If you were SMART...you would know that america is not a DEMOCRACY...IT IS A REPUBLIC and the only thing that would even mildly suggest that there is anything democratic about it is the fact that the public "IS ALLOWED" to vote....even though their votes are not counted because presidents are SELECTED...not elected. Outside of that it is a DICTATORSHIP under the control of CORPORATIONS.

Is a light going off in your head now???

When does the president confront the masses in times when a decision must be made.....NEVER!!!!...therefore there is NO DEMOCRACY. So called representatives are bought by corporations and made to speak for the corporation as oppose to the people making their representative hear their wants and then make them known to the president or government. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN AMERICA. So regardless of what you feel about the intelligence level of americans...and I will admit they are not the smartest people by a long shot, you must first understand the felonious system of government at work in america to know why america is in the shape that it is in.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: WhiteCastle on July 05, 2007, 05:54:00 PM
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

Intelligence, by any of the usual scales, is definitely normally distributed (the measurement of it deliberately makes it so).  Inluding religion won't alter the distribution being normal, but if you were to draw two distributions, one for relgious and one for nonreligious people, the distributions typically don't have the same mean.  
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: pluck on July 05, 2007, 06:02:05 PM
Too many variables are at play in such a study where the source is unknown. Are the people being surveyed teenagers, middle aged or senile elderly?

What part of the country, or is it a national poll?
 ...etc, etc.

Ignorance will always exist...do you think the people who have to work 50, 60, 70+ hours a week to pay the bills, give a shit where buttfuck, Afghanistan is, or what natural selection is?
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Kegdrainer on July 05, 2007, 06:03:13 PM
stupider is not a word.  i hope you were being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 05, 2007, 06:07:17 PM
If you were SMART...you would know that america is not a DEMOCRACY...IT IS A REPUBLIC and the only thing that would even mildly suggest that there is anything democratic about it is the fact that the public "IS ALLOWED" to vote....even though their votes are not counted because presidents are SELECTED...not elected. Outside of that it is a DICTATORSHIP under the control of CORPORATIONS.

Is a light going off in your head now???

When does the president confront the masses in times when a decision must be made.....NEVER!!!!...therefore there is NO DEMOCRACY. So called representatives are bought by corporations and made to speak for the corporation as oppose to the people making their representative hear their wants and then make them known to the president or government. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN AMERICA. So regardless of what you feel about the intelligence level of americans...and I will admit they are not the smartest people by a long shot, you must first understand the felonious system of government at work in america to know why america is in the shape that it is in.

Thats real thoughtful, Samson. Give me your honest opinion, was 9/11 an "inside job"?  ::)
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: marcus on July 05, 2007, 06:08:47 PM
Is stupider even a real word? :P
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: triple_pickle on July 05, 2007, 06:13:01 PM
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth

what if it did?  what would it change in your life?  do you think you are a superior human being/citizen because you know it is the other way around?

re: voter stupidity, read "the wisdom of crowds" by james surowiecki
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: SAMSON123 on July 05, 2007, 06:23:53 PM
Thats real thoughtful, Samson. Give me your honest opinion, was 9/11 an "inside job"?  ::)

There is plenty of information out there to answer your question...try getting off this board for a while and finding out...
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: rjp on July 05, 2007, 06:30:16 PM
4 out of 5 Americans would have properly titled this thread "Oh my, how much more stupid can America get"
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 05, 2007, 06:43:42 PM
There is plenty of information out there to answer your question...try getting off this board for a while and finding out...

Thanks for the suggestion, But I've already read an official explanation that I'm quite satisfied with. Tell me your opinion about Tower 7. Was it a "controlled demolition"?  ;D

Were the sheeple lead into a war for oil controlled by transnational corporations? Did America REALLY land a man on the moon? How about cold fusion, did nefarious energy companies hide the truth so they could continue to profit from the idiot populace ? I'm really interested in your thoughts.  :-*
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 05, 2007, 06:49:51 PM
4 out of 5 Americans would have properly titled this thread "Oh my, how much more stupid can America get"
Apparently you didn`t get the quip.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: warchild on July 05, 2007, 07:43:26 PM
Apparently you didn`t get the quip.

Nice recovery douchebag
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: dzulboy on July 05, 2007, 07:54:40 PM
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

first thing you have said in two years i agree with
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 05, 2007, 07:58:10 PM
first thing you have said in two years i agree with
You don`t dislike me as much as you envision yourself doing so.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 05, 2007, 07:59:58 PM
stupider is not a word.  i hope you were being sarcastic.


Oddly enough, according to Dictionary.com, Stupider is indeed a word:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Stupider (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Stupider)

stu·pid      /ˈstupɪd, ˈstyu‑/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[stoo-pid, styoo‑]

Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -er, -est, noun
–adjective

1.   lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2.   characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3.   tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4.   annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5.   in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.
6.   Slang. excellent; terrific. –noun
7.   Informal. a stupid person.

[Origin: 1535–45; < L stupidus = stup(ére) to be numb or stunned + -idus -id4]

—Related forms
stu·pid·ly, adverb
stu·pid·ness, noun

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source


stu·pid       (stōō'pĭd, styōō'-)  Pronunciation Key
adj.   stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est

   1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
   2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.
   3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.
   4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
   5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job.


n.   A stupid or foolish person.

[Latin stupidus, from stupēre, to be stunned.]

stu'pid·ly adv., stu'pid·ness n.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Archer77 on July 05, 2007, 08:48:40 PM
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.


Amen on that Brother
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: skillz on July 05, 2007, 08:52:43 PM
9/11 was an inside job alright. It's ingenious how they can plant explosives all over the twin towers and not one leak get outabout them, but yet can't plant weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to further fool the masses.  You think that would be a pretty easy thing to do. Especially to calm the nutjobs (or true patriots) down. B
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: CARTEL on July 05, 2007, 09:16:07 PM
9/11 was an inside job alright. It's ingenious how they can plant explosives all over the twin towers and not one leak get outabout them, but yet can't plant weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to further fool the masses.  You think that would be a pretty easy thing to do. Especially to calm the nutjobs (or true patriots) down. B

Good argument.

Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: The Freakshow on July 05, 2007, 09:33:46 PM
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

I have to disagree. EGOISM is the most responsible for ignorance, not religion.

Egoism:
Pronunciation: \ˈē-gə-ˌwi-zəm, -gō-ˌi- also ˈe-\
Function: noun
1 a: a doctrine that individual self-interest is the actual motive of all conscious action b: a doctrine that individual self-interest is the valid end of all actions
2: excessive concern for oneself with or without exaggerated feelings of self-importance
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: The Freakshow on July 05, 2007, 09:35:30 PM
9/11 was an inside job alright. It's ingenious how they can plant explosives all over the twin towers and not one leak get outabout them, but yet can't plant weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to further fool the masses.  You think that would be a pretty easy thing to do. Especially to calm the nutjobs (or true patriots) down. B

Rosie is going to be very upset with you ;D
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: garraeth on July 05, 2007, 09:42:41 PM
stupider is not a word.  i hope you were being sarcastic.

heh, TA barely graduated from HS with his GED -- proving his own point.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 05, 2007, 09:46:58 PM
heh, TA barely graduated from HS with his GED -- proving his own point.

How does one get a GED from a High School?  Is that what you did?
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: garraeth on July 05, 2007, 10:15:04 PM
How does one get a GED from a High School?  Is that what you did?
I dunno. Ask you guidance counselor.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Herc on July 05, 2007, 10:16:52 PM
whether or not most people know what a molecule is or dna and how it links to heredity is irrelevent to whether or not they are intelligent.  Some people or just more informed than others and some have other things going on in there lives other than reading about science.  Most voters make the most educated desisions they can and usually both sides have some valid points and intelligent people on both sides of an issue can dissagree.  This doesnt make one side stupider than the other.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: youandme on July 05, 2007, 10:33:20 PM
How's this for distribution of stupidity...

TA, Goodbum, Daddywaddy, Shifted Shapes.

All from North Carolina.
lol.


uhhhhh wait a minute.........I don't get it hahah
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 06, 2007, 05:55:43 AM
Good thread TA and I agree.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: efirkey on July 06, 2007, 06:37:28 AM
What planet country is TA from?
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 06, 2007, 06:43:26 AM
American has an intelligence problem. Can't deny that.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: George Whorewell on July 06, 2007, 07:37:09 AM
To commemorate my 100th post on getbig ( Ive been a member since 05') I have come up with the following observation; Requiring intelligence to vote would be tantamount to the literacy test newly freed slaves were given to prevent them from voting. This rings true today where illiterate and incompetent people of all races would be unable to take part in the political process. Where it gets interesting is this- Do these individuals honestly have any bearing on the political process anyway? What would change? I honestly believe nothing. The same people you see in power now, would be in power anyway.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 06, 2007, 07:41:29 AM
How's this for distribution of stupidity...

TA, Goodbum, Daddywaddy, Shifted Shapes.

All from North Carolina.

Shifted Shapes and TA are one and the same. Either that or SS lives in TA's rectum and types replies from a Blackberry as TA posts.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 06, 2007, 07:43:00 AM
And it's true, the average American is well below what we should consider average in intelligence. Not only that, but they are selfish to boot, so they basically vote for the guy they could have a beer with and who promises to save them thier tax dollars. It's that simple, sadly.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Livewire on July 06, 2007, 07:47:00 AM
Shifted Shapes and TA are one and the same. Either that or SS lives in TA's rectum and types replies from a Blackberry as TA posts.

your focus upon the relationship between the rectum of two men fascinates me.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 06, 2007, 08:07:46 AM
your focus upon the relationship between the rectum of two men fascinates me.

It's the most likely spot for him to hide, no?
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Livewire on July 06, 2007, 08:13:44 AM
It's the most likely spot for him to hide, no?

Of course.


Tainted Love.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: buffbodz on July 06, 2007, 08:57:42 AM
Well we have stupid. stupider and stupidest.  Look em up.  Than look around.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: kilojoule on July 06, 2007, 09:27:54 AM
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Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: trab on July 06, 2007, 11:17:13 AM
Well, I think the political candidates should be able to hand out money to voters at the polls on election day.
Just get to the point. Why are special interest lobiests the only ones to get a piece!
The billions spent on advertizing could be beter spent in direct bribes to voters.
Make it fun. Serve beer and burgers.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: slummin on July 06, 2007, 03:24:54 PM
A certain portion of the population will always be stupid.

as you demonstrate.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: onlyme on July 06, 2007, 03:51:11 PM
How's this for distribution of stupidity...

TA, Goodbum, Daddywaddy, Shifted Shapes.

All from North Carolina.

and thats just the ones we know about
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Bear on July 06, 2007, 04:43:34 PM
How's this for distribution of stupidity...

TA, Goodbum, Daddywaddy, Shifted Shapes.

All from North Carolina.

Nile are from South Carolina
(http://www.jaxxroxx.com/images/Pictures%20Page/Nile%20at%20Jaxx%202-08-06%20-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: efirkey on July 06, 2007, 04:50:28 PM
Well, I think the political candidates should be able to hand out money to voters at the polls on election day.
Just get to the point. Why are special interest lobiests the only ones to get a piece!
The billions spent on advertizing could be beter spent in direct bribes to voters.
Make it fun. Serve beer and burgers.

I just read the book "The Jungle"  and that's exactly what they did back in the early 1900s.  The politicians would have big parties and give away money and free booze in trade for votes.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: No Patience on July 06, 2007, 05:02:45 PM
Not true at all.  Too many vairables involved.  Religion is the most responsible for ignorance though.

DING DING DING!!!!!!

thank you TA....i get so sick of people talking about made up shit like they KNOW it is true
and that i am ignorant for not believing it, or going to hell...blah blah...

i just laugh and tell them:

god is just like santa claus and the tooth fairy, but your parents forgot to tell you he isn't real
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: daddy8ball on July 06, 2007, 05:12:59 PM
WTF is this shit?  >:(

Everyone knows the sun revolves around the earth.  ::)
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: efirkey on July 06, 2007, 05:15:49 PM
I believe the universe revolves around me and I'm american.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Cavalier22 on July 06, 2007, 06:01:43 PM
the whole world is very very ignorant. so what
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: trab on July 06, 2007, 06:27:41 PM
I just read the book "The Jungle"  and that's exactly what they did back in the early 1900s.  The politicians would have big parties and give away money and free booze in trade for votes.

Ya, in Thailand they still pay for votes... AND BUS THEM TO THE POLS ::)! Give 'em a nice meaal too!
They bus them in from the poor north areas. Talk about Popular politics.
Thats why the millitary threw the pres out. Total crook.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: kyomu on July 07, 2007, 05:49:07 AM
the whole world is very very ignorant. so what
You are right. There are many countries which are worse than america about this.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Archer77 on July 07, 2007, 07:18:34 AM
the whole world is very very ignorant. so what

Then never bitch about a thing in life ever again.  The way people behave and all the actions that follow are now subject to a complete blackout on criticism.
Lets all just be stupid. Anybody ever wrong another on a personal level, well I guess that is just fine.
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: kyomu on July 07, 2007, 11:34:23 AM
yeah, when I was in Sunday School they taught us that the sun revolves around the Earth.
Oh really? Thanx god for not being born in the rural american village...
Title: Re: Oh my How much STUPIDER can america get?
Post by: Big Worm on July 07, 2007, 12:51:40 PM
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth

A light bulb appears over my head. I finally get it.

For the democratic process to run properly it necessitates the voter to have some knowledge of what he is voting on.  For it to work properly it requires voters to cast their votes based on an educated opinion.  If you are going to vote on something like stem cell research you should at least know what it is, correct?

Sadly, that isn’t how many American vote, as is obvious when during an election year people are talking about whether or not someone “looks presidential” and whether the person looks “likeable”. Well the question is, how can Americans vote on such things as global warming, stem cell research, cloning and what have you when basic scientific fundamental concepts fly right over our heads.

"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century." Said Jon D. Miller, a political scientists who directs the Center for Biomedical Communications at the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, he regularly surveys Americans for his clients which include the National Science Foundation on the public’s knowledge and attitudes towards science in general.
I mean, lets be honest, if you don’t know what a fucking cell is how can you understand what stem cell research is enough to vote on it?

And according to this guy most Americans don’t know what a cell is. Then it hit me.  There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative. Like I said, it hit me. And it hit me hard.

Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical “authorities” they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?

What a dangerous misstep.

Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.

Those things go hand in hand. He says that every time he goes on the radio to talk about his findings he gets people from the listening area sending him cards in the mail saying that they will pray for him. So I take it even though they don’t understand what he is talking about when he refers to “DNA” they know that people that use big words like that are most likely going to hell.

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Source: Scientific Savvy? In U.S., Not Much, New York Times, August 30, 2005

As dumb as all this seems? It's not dumber then throwing pics of yourself up on the net with a MAN!!!